[Poll] reminder: Topics for discussion: NCSG - ICANN Board meeting Tuesday 9th February

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jan 26 07:58:40 EET 2015


On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:

Once ICANN gets involved in content it's a slippery slope with a final
> destination I presume many of us would find unappealing. One only has to
> look at the United Kingdom for an indication as to what might happen. Here
> in the U.K. filters initially designed to ban child pornography are now
> used to ban many types of material some find objectionable. One of the
> latest sites to run afoul of the censors was the Chaos Computer Club (
> http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2014/ccc-censored-in-uk ). As bad as
> national filters are they pale in terms of what ICANN has the capability of
> doing..
>
> So, Avri, the direction to ICANN should be to stay out of content
> regulation. Period. However, if they are determined to have a California
> public benefits corporation engage in censorship with global effect it
> needs to be done in an open, transparent manner with defined conditions and
> standards available to all with community participation.
>

I agree with Ed statement above; ICANN getting into content related issues
is a slippery path, getting them out from the aspect they have already
gotten into will be helpful.

Regards

Ed







>
> avri
>
> On 25-Jan-15 20:33, Edward Morris wrote:
>
>  Hi Rafik,
>
>
>
> I’d like to suggest a topic that has not had high visibility in our
> stakeholder group in recent years, yet is a big part of the NCSG DNA: the
> belief that ICANN should not be involved in content control. It’s part of
> our belief in free expression and it’s something that very slowly ICANN is
> getting involved in fairly blatantly. I think it would be productive for us
> to raise the flag in this area to get word to the Board that we’re noticing
> this and that we do not approve of this mission creep.
>
>
>
> ICANN has always been involved in content to some degree. The most visible
> activity in this area came during the .XXX battles where contractual
> language specified forms of prohibited content. Obviously the new gTLD
> programme involves, in many ways, content classification. But recently…
>
>
>
> This autumn we learned that ICANN had employees going through corporate
> records of firms in Panama to help law enforcement track down an alleged
> child pornography ring. (
> http://domainincite.com/14842-icann-helps-bust-russian-child-porn-ring ).
> Now Fadi tells us they are attempting to figure out what to do with the
> case of a Bulgarian man with servers in Costa Rica who is allegedly putting
> i.p. ingringing content online ( NCSG – CEO meeting, NCPH intersessional
> transcript, p. 19-20). This is certainly a long way from names and numbers.
>
>
>
> We know Fadi’s perspective. According to Mr. Chehade, ICANN is under
> pressure. It’s one of the reasons ICANN is supposedly getting involved in
> the NMI. Yet during the interessional meeting Fadi also stated several
> times that ICANN needed community input to help determine “how far does
> ICANN want to go?” on matters like these (intersessional transcript, p.
> 10). We need to tell him that ICANN has no role to play in policing content
> online.
>
>
>
> Although we know Fadi’s position (both revelations mentioned above came as
> a result of Fadi speaking extemporaneously) and expressed confusion on
> these matters  we haven’t really heard from the Board about situations like
> these. On the one hand we’re told during the transition that ICANN has a
> limited remit and is going to stick to it. On the other hand we have ICANN
> employees searching through Central American corporate records to assist
> authorities in policing content. I think it would be appropriate for us to
> express concern about ICANN’s incursions, both actual and contemplated,
> into content and to try to get clarification as to the Board’s views and
> intentions on the matter.
>
>
>
> Ed
>>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We need to get 3 topics to discuss with the ICANN board at singapore
>> meeting.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> On Jan 20, 2015 10:32 AM, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>  like every time in preparation for ICANN meeting, we have to discuss
>>> what kind of topics/issues we want to raise with ICANN board members when
>>> we  meet them.
>>>
>>>  we will try to get 3 topics and send them 1 week prior to the session.
>>> please propose  topics and suggest short descriptions . we will conduct
>>> later a polling to pick-up the 3 topics among the proposals.
>>>
>>>  Best Regards,
>>>
>>>  Rafik
>>>
>>
>
>
>


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