<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Edward Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" target="_blank">egmorris1@toast.net</a>></span> wrote:<span class=""></span><br><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div>Once ICANN gets involved in content it's a slippery slope with a final destination I presume many of us would find unappealing. One only has to look at the United Kingdom for an indication as to what might happen. Here in the U.K. filters initially designed to ban child pornography are now used to ban many types of material some find objectionable. One of the latest sites to run afoul of the censors was the Chaos Computer Club ( <a href="http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2014/ccc-censored-in-uk" target="_blank">http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2014/ccc-censored-in-uk</a> ). As bad as national filters are they pale in terms of what ICANN has the capability of doing.. </div><div><br></div><div>So, Avri, the direction to ICANN should be to stay out of content regulation. Period. However, if they are determined to have a California public benefits corporation engage in censorship with global effect it needs to be done in an open, transparent manner with defined conditions and standards available to all with community participation. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree with Ed statement above; ICANN getting into content related issues is a slippery path, getting them out from the aspect they have already gotten into will be helpful.<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ed</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#330033">
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<div>On 25-Jan-15 20:33, Edward Morris
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Rafik,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to suggest a topic that has not
had high visibility
in our stakeholder group in recent years, yet is a big part of
the NCSG DNA:
the belief that ICANN should not be involved in content
control. It’s part of
our belief in free expression and it’s something that very
slowly ICANN is
getting involved in fairly blatantly. I think it would be
productive for us to
raise the flag in this area to get word to the Board that
we’re noticing this
and that we do not approve of this mission creep.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ICANN has always been involved in content
to some degree. The most
visible activity in this area came during the .XXX battles
where contractual
language specified forms of prohibited content. Obviously the
new gTLD
programme involves, in many ways, content classification. But
recently…</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This autumn we learned that ICANN had
employees going
through corporate records of firms in Panama to help law
enforcement track down
an alleged child pornography ring. ( <a href="http://domainincite.com/14842-icann-helps-bust-russian-child-porn-ring" target="_blank">http://domainincite.com/14842-icann-helps-bust-russian-child-porn-ring</a>
). Now Fadi tells us they are attempting to figure out what to
do with the case
of a Bulgarian man with servers in Costa Rica who is allegedly
putting i.p.
ingringing content online ( NCSG – CEO meeting, NCPH
intersessional transcript,
p. 19-20). This is certainly a long way from names and
numbers. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We know Fadi’s perspective. According to
Mr. Chehade, ICANN
is under pressure. It’s one of the reasons ICANN is supposedly
getting involved
in the NMI. Yet during the interessional meeting Fadi also
stated several times
that ICANN needed community input to help determine “how far
does ICANN want to
go?” on matters like these (intersessional transcript, p. 10).
We need to tell
him that ICANN has no role to play in policing content online.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Although we know Fadi’s position (both
revelations mentioned
above came as a result of Fadi speaking extemporaneously) and
expressed
confusion on these matters we
haven’t really heard from the Board about situations like
these. On the one hand we’re
told during the transition that ICANN has a limited remit and
is going to stick
to it. On the other hand we have ICANN employees searching
through Central
American corporate records to assist authorities in policing
content. I think
it would be appropriate for us to express concern about
ICANN’s incursions,
both actual and contemplated, into content and to try to get
clarification as to
the Board’s views and intentions on the matter.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ed </p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Rafik
Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi everyone,</p>
<p dir="ltr">We need to get 3 topics to discuss with the
ICANN board at singapore meeting.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Best, </p>
<p dir="ltr">Rafik </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 20, 2015 10:32 AM, "Rafik
Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
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<div>like every time in preparation for ICANN meeting,
we have to discuss what kind of topics/issues we
want to raise with ICANN board members when we meet
them.</div>
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<div>we will try to get 3 topics and send them 1 week
prior to the session. </div>
<div>please propose topics and suggest short
descriptions . we will conduct later a polling to
pick-up the 3 topics among the proposals.</div>
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<div>Best Regards,</div>
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<div>Rafik</div>
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