[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Article on applicant support

[Johan Helsingius]

Thanks Rafik, good points.

	Julf

On 14/04/2023 09:20, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> 
> Hi Julf,
> 
> speaking here as the rep to GGP. Yes, the BE representative is pushing 
> that commercial entities can be covered by applicant support. That was 
> discussed several times in GGP and the argument against it is that we 
> need to focus on non-commercial and non-profit applicants. We had the 
> same discussion 11 years ago about the JAS WG.
> my personal opinion : this might possibly open the door for gaming and 
> some  will try to benefit from applicant support while they are solely 
> for profit. How many would do? I don't know ..
> I believe NCSG's concern and focus is non-commercial, we shouldn't 
> dilute the program as that will be self-defeating.
> 
> for reference, quoting the section related to that topic:
> 
>     GOAL: That potential applicants from the not-for-profit sector,
>     social enterprises and/or community organizations should be a
>     priority target of events, communication channels, and publications,
>     over those with a more commercial or technical focus.
> 
> 
>     Approach: While not excluding any other type of applicant, ICANN org
>     should prioritize targeting potential applicants from the
>     not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community
>     organizations, over those with a more commercial or technical focus,
>     through events, communications channels, and publications.
> 
>     Indicators of Success: That the majority of outreach events,
>     communications channels, and publications are targeted to supported
>     applicants are from not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or
>     community organizations. [CONSIDER ADDING: However, groups with a
>     more commercial focus should also remain a key focus of these
>     outreach events, communications channels and publications.]
> 
>     Data/Metrics to Measure Success: Percentage of outreach events,
>     communications channels, and publications targeted to supported
>     applicants from not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or
>     community organizations. [CONSIDER ADDING: with groups with a more
>     commercial focus also remaining a key target.]
> 
> 
> sorry that is just quick feedback. I will try to send some status report 
> soon regarding GGP working progress
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> 
> Le ven. 14 avr. 2023 à 15:46, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com 
> <mailto:julf at julf.com>> a écrit :
> 
>     Opinions?
> 
>              Julf
> 
> 
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject:        Article on applicant support
>     Date:   Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:50:26 -0300
>     From:   Mark Datysgeld <mark at governanceprimer.com
>     <mailto:mark at governanceprimer.com>>
>     To:     Johan Helsingius <julf at Julf.com>, Stephanie Perrin
>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
>     CC:     Lawrence Olawale-Roberts <lawrence at microboss.org
>     <mailto:lawrence at microboss.org>>
> 
> 
> 
>     Julf, Stephanie,
> 
>     Following up on the discussions we had on bringing a greater sense of
>     harmony to our House:
> 
>     I will write an article for CircleID together with Lawrence Roberts
>     speaking of the importance of ICANN providing applicant support for the
>     developing world to be able to compete, based on data that we sourced
>     demonstrating how underrepresented this half the world was last time.
>     Our focus will be particularly on SMEs.
> 
>     While I am aware that this focus does not align with the current NCSG
>     position, we do not exclude the need to support NGOs and similar
>     entities, but rather want support for both cases. In that sense, I'd
>     like to represent the NCSG's vision in parallel to our argument,
>     stating
>     that we hope both SGs arrive at a conclusion that ultimately benefits
>     the developing world.
> 
>     In case you find that interesting, could you send me a summary of the
>     policy council's position within the next 7 days? In case you would
>     rather not join, let's look towards other opportunities of representing
>     our House's views together in the future.
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     -- 
> 
>     Mark W. Datysgeld [markwd.website <https://markwd.website
>     <https://markwd.website>>]
>     Director at Governance Primer [governanceprimer.com
>     <http://governanceprimer.com>
>     <https://governanceprimer.com <https://governanceprimer.com>>]
>     ICANN GNSO Councilor
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