[NCSG-SubPro] NCSG Response to the proposed GAC-GNSO Consultation on Closed Generics

Fri Apr 8 23:08:05 EEST 2022

Hi Manju,
Thank you so much for the update. Nice strategy there with the small team
representation. Do you know when that deferral will be brought to the
council's attention? Or maybe I missed it in my hundreds of emails.

Thanks again.
Tomslin

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 08:18, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw> wrote:

> Hi team,
>
> Borrowing this thread to report back to you about what happened in the
> small team.
>
> So as you might have guessed, I was the only one saying no to the
> 'facilitated dialogue'. Jeff, Paul, and Kurt were eager to dive into the
> discussion of how we engage with GAC in this 'facilitated dialogue' but
> thankfully they still respected our objection. My first point of objection
> is that the small team is really not representative enough to make the
> decision of whether the Council should meet with the GAC. For now, we
> agreed to refer this back to the Council and make the decision at the
> Council level.
>
> I'm afraid though NCSG would be the only one saying no when we're at the
> Council level. Also when this pops up, we really have to have our statement
> ready explaining why we're saying no. I've put notes in the document
> Tomslin created and Kathy has been extremely helpful by providing reference
> material and edits:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> We will still need to phrase them into a formal statement, but I think
> it'd be an easy task now we have all the contents.
>
> Best,
> Manju
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 9:08 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi team,
>>
>> I just wanted to call your attention to this response we promised to put
>> together on the board proposed dialogue between GAC and Council on closed
>> generics. The Council small team is about to be activated to start
>> deliberations and I believe @陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw> who is
>> representing us there hopes to rely on the response we pen down to guide
>> her contribution to that team.
>>
>> In this regard, can I request that we find some time to please put our
>> ideas down on the Google form
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Looking forward to your help with this. In the meantime, i'll review my
>> meeting notes and put down some feedback we got during our policy call on
>> the document.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, 22:25 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As a follow-up to my previous email regarding the board's proposed
>>> facilitated dialogue between GAC and GNSO council, I have created this
>>> Google doc [
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buufalOjubifqZJoPLqF4wBaIUxHKLWor7NvILtnrKg/edit?usp=sharing
>>> ] to capture our response to this proposal in the form of a letter to the
>>> council small team on Closed Generics.
>>>
>>> Inputs to the document are welcomed and for your convenience, attached
>>> again is the letter from the board and the accompanying framing paper.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 08:12, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Here is the framing paper on the board's proposed dialogue between GNSO
>>>> Council and the GAC on Closed Generics that was promised.
>>>>
>>>> Comments are welcomed. I will also be sending a separate email with a
>>>> link to the Google doc where we intend to draft a letter as a response to
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tomslin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Wendy Profit via Gnso-chairs <gnso-chairs at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 04:33
>>>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] [CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Manal
>>>> Ismail and Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO Consultation on Closed Generics
>>>> To: manal.ismail at board.icann.org <manal.ismail at board.icann.org>, Manal
>>>> Ismail <manal at tra.gov.eg>, philippe.fouquart at orange.com <
>>>> philippe.fouquart at orange.com>, gnso-chairs at icann.org <
>>>> gnso-chairs at icann.org>
>>>> Cc: Secretary <secretary at icann.org>, Correspondence <
>>>> Correspondence at icann.org>, Board Ops Team <board-ops-team at icann.org>,
>>>> gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>, GACSTAFF <
>>>> gac-staff at icann.org>, Maarten Botterman <
>>>> maarten.botterman at board.icann.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Manal and Philippe,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pursuant to the letter sent recently (6 March 2022, attached for
>>>> reference), we are now forwarding the associated framework paper entitled “Board-Facilitated
>>>> Process for a GAC - GNSO Council Dialogue on Closed Generics”, also
>>>> attached.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wendy Profit
>>>>
>>>> ICANN
>>>>
>>>> Board Operations Senior Manager
>>>>
>>>> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>>>>
>>>> Los Angeles, CA 90094
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Wendy Profit <wendy.profit at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 3:58 PM
>>>> *To: *"manal.ismail at board.icann.org" <manal.ismail at board.icann.org>, "
>>>> manal at tra.gov.eg" <manal at tra.gov.eg>, "philippe.fouquart at orange.com" <
>>>> philippe.fouquart at orange.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Maarten Botterman <maarten.botterman at board.icann.org>, "
>>>> gnso-chairs at icann.org" <gnso-chairs at icann.org>, GACSTAFF <
>>>> gac-staff at icann.org>, "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>,
>>>> ICANN Board Ops <board-ops-team at icann.org>, Correspondence <
>>>> Correspondence at icann.org>, Secretary <secretary at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail and
>>>> Philippe Fouquart - GAC-GNSO Consultation on Closed Generics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Manal and Philippe,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find the attached letter from ICANN Chair Maarten Botterman
>>>> regarding a proposed formal consultation between the GAC and GNSO Council
>>>> on how to handle the subject of closed generics in gTLD applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wendy Profit
>>>>
>>>> ICANN
>>>>
>>>> Board Operations Senior Manager
>>>>
>>>> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>>>>
>>>> Los Angeles, CA 90094
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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