[NCSG-PC] NCSG sessions draft agendas

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Sat Feb 22 03:39:01 EET 2025


Hi,

The CSG chair brought the proposal to discuss board composition and having
2 seats from each house, meaning NCSG and CSG can select their own board
member. The topic will be discussed under the board seat 14 agenda item. I
responded that I think something we can discuss and we raised previously.
More than agreeing or not on the idea, the question is how to proceed and
advocate this effectively knowing there will be a certain opposition.

Best,

Rafik
Le ven. 21 févr. 2025 à 09:55, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> Please find attached the slides deck with the draft agenda for the NCPH
> meeting. Let me know if you have any concerns or suggestions or if you want
> to lead one of the topics.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le jeu. 20 févr. 2025 à 11:59, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Sometimes I make stupid questions, but better safe than sorry hehe
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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>> Em qua., 19 de fev. de 2025 às 20:57, Rafik Dammak <
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the material, let me check and see if we can share them with
>>> GAC.
>>> If we meet with CSG, it means de facto a NCPH meeting :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 00:48 Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rafik,
>>>>
>>>> As a follow-up, I'm not sure if we will be able to have someone on our
>>>> side who was involved with the SubPro/New gTLDs from the beginning and is
>>>> deeply knowledgeable on the subject on this day, so it may not be very
>>>> fruitful to have this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> (Btw, I may have confused myself a bit - are we having a separate
>>>> session only with the CSG, or are we talking about the NCPH session here?)
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>>
>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>> Researcher
>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
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>>>>
>>>> Em ter., 18 de fev. de 2025 às 22:34, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rafik, all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We do have slides prepared by multiple members of NCSG, but more of an
>>>>> explanation of the ASP handbook. They do, however, have some important
>>>>> commentaries about gaps and risks among them. We also have the Public
>>>>> Comment that Bolu led re: Review of the Draft Applicant Support Program
>>>>> Handbook
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides those who are focused on the ASP, we have public comments we
>>>>> elaborated collectively to the Second Proceeding and Third Proceeding of
>>>>> the Next Round of AGB, which are useful for a potential discussion with the
>>>>> CSG about the Next Round (if others feel that there are topics that would
>>>>> benefit from a conversation with the CSG in this area)
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sending those four documents attached. I hope they are helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>>>> Researcher
>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
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>>>>>
>>>>> Em ter., 18 de fev. de 2025 às 03:02, Rafik Dammak <
>>>>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a reminder if you have any comments on the draft agenda.
>>>>>> On the other hand, we got a request from GAC if we have any material
>>>>>> about HRIA on DNS and gTLD Applicant Support we want to share with them and
>>>>>> to be added to the briefing for GAC members. @farzaneh badii
>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>  @Pedro de Perdigão Lana
>>>>>> <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>  do you have anything we can share
>>>>>> or if we can prepare something quickly based on previous work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le jeu. 13 févr. 2025 à 17:09, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some updates to share
>>>>>>> for CSG session, they shared those topics for our consideration:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Providing NCPH input to ICANN CEO regarding ICANN priorities
>>>>>>>    - Further Day 0 event planning (perhaps for Muscat) for NCPH
>>>>>>>    - Regular quarterly house meetings
>>>>>>>    - WSIS + 20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition we proposed  those: membership system follow-up, board
>>>>>>> seat 14, DNS abuse positions and plan. We will need to get board seat 14
>>>>>>> procedure finalized by Prague as the process will start by then.
>>>>>>> I think those are acceptable topics and linked to what we discussed
>>>>>>> previously with them
>>>>>>> Regarding DNS abuse they acknowledge that we have different views
>>>>>>> and ask how we can have productive discussion on the topic and move ahead.
>>>>>>> let me know if you agree with this list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for GAC, as we discussed during the NCSG policy call, we can send to
>>>>>>> the GAC those 2 topics and finalize the agenda:    HRIA on DNS and gTLD
>>>>>>> Applicant Support
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any comment or question for the rest?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>> Le ven. 7 févr. 2025 à 17:29, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am coordinating the agenda for the joint sessions with CPH, CSG,
>>>>>>>> ALAC and GAC, the current status is:
>>>>>>>> - Waiting for comments from CSG about the draft topics  we shared:
>>>>>>>> membership system follow-up, board seat 14, DNS abuse positions and plan.
>>>>>>>> They didn't propose anything yet from their side.
>>>>>>>> - I shared again those topics (HRIA on DNS abuse, applicant
>>>>>>>> support, ethics policy and community participant code, continuous
>>>>>>>> improvement program) with ALAC waiting for their comments and
>>>>>>>> Jonathan asked about the INFERMAL report (
>>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-webinar-to-discuss-infermal-a-project-focused-on-malicious-domain-registrations-05-02-2025-en
>>>>>>>> ). We might review and pick up some topics from the list.
>>>>>>>> - For CPH, they are discussing internally and we shared this
>>>>>>>> initial topic of HRIA on DNS Abuse. They didn't propose any topic
>>>>>>>> from their side yet.
>>>>>>>> - GAC proposed this based on back and forth discussion:
>>>>>>>> 1- Introduction of the NCSG and its work (5 mins)
>>>>>>>> 2- Discussion on (25 mins) :
>>>>>>>>     HRIA on DNS
>>>>>>>>     gTLD Applicant Support
>>>>>>>>     Public Interest Commitments (PICs)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have concerns about whether we can really cover ASP and PICs and
>>>>>>>> how much we can discuss about the latter. Please let me know your thoughts
>>>>>>>> and which we should pick up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - For SSAC, we cannot meet them this time but I agreed with SSAC
>>>>>>>> chair Ram Mohan to schedule it for Prague meeting. Andea will handle that
>>>>>>>> on due time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the meantime, I want to confirm for those topics who can be the
>>>>>>>> lead for each. For HRIA on DNS abuse, I am assuming Farzaneh and Michaela
>>>>>>>> can handle that, for ASP that can be Pedro and Manju for continuous
>>>>>>>> improvement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regarding other NCSG sessions such as NCSG membership, I invited
>>>>>>>> the new policy head in ICANN but he cannot confirm yet and if we cannot
>>>>>>>> meet him in Seattle we will schedule a call with him later.
>>>>>>>> For the NCSG policy related meetings, @Tomslin Samme-Nlar
>>>>>>>> <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>  can share from his side. For the NCSG
>>>>>>>> issue forum, @Pedro de Perdigão Lana
>>>>>>>> <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>  can you share more about the
>>>>>>>> selected topic and agenda?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So please give me your input about the points above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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