[NCSG-PC] Comments on the CCOICI survey

Stephanie E Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Mar 11 13:03:30 EET 2024


Profuse apologies folks, did not realize I had restricted access. SHould 
now be open to anyone with the link, also attached as a word doc just in 
case.  Copying Caleb and Juan and Ben in case they have comments.  
Deadline is tonight I think?  If anyone has any great ideas on how we 
could have achieved consensus, I am all ears, but I could not think of 
anything except to keep trying.  I do not recommend giving small teams 
or task forces the power to deprive Council of voting something down.  
And I could not see how we could not have separated out the work that we 
did reach agreement on, if we had had more notice of what the CPs were 
planning.

cheers Stephanie

On 2024-03-10 10:24 p.m., 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
> Hi Spephanie,
>
> I can't assess the google doc, guess it'd be the same for others too.
> Maybe if you could simply circulate the response in word document and 
> we can suggest edits (if any) in this mailing thread.
>
> Best,
> Manju
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 3:33 AM Stephanie E Perrin 
> <stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:
>
>     I hope you are all happily home again after a safe and relaxing trip,
>     luggage in tow.  If not, my sympathies.
>
>     Here is a google doc with my suggested comments on the survey.
>     Frankly,
>     while we are not happy with the outcome of the CCOICI, I cannot
>     see any
>     point in trying out a different structure.  Maybe we can fix the
>     one we
>     have.  Maybe we should have brought in ethics and COI experts to help
>     the task force.  We cannot consider changing the voting procedure at
>     Council, we depend on the ability to object ourselves. However, we
>     need
>     to not repeat what happened, and we need to get back at fixing the
>     SOIs.
>
>     Comments welcome, sorry for the delay but I had to go over the
>     meetings
>     and the root documents.
>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing
>
>     cheers Steph Perrin
>
>     PS I am hopeless with google documents, hate them, so I wont be
>     offended
>     if you tell me I set it up all wrong.  Hopefully you can make
>     suggestions
>
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