[NCSG-PC] Nomcom comments

Johan Helsingius julf at julf.com
Tue Jun 11 17:48:59 EEST 2024


The argument is good, but we need to keep the two issues
(terms and representation) separate.

	Julf


On 11/06/2024 16:46, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> Added it w/ change marks, feel free to take it out if you want but 
> thought it would be another good argument.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:44 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com 
> <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Now anyone can comment. Not sure we need to emphasize the representation
>     point - we have made a lot of noise about it already, but we want to
>     have it formally noted.
> 
>              Julf
> 
> 
>     On 11/06/2024 16:00, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
>      > Thanks for this, Julf.
>      >
>      > I asked to add comments to the reply but the document is closed for
>      > comments. Id maybe just add in an even clearer way that we are not
>      > onboard with this suggestion especially in light of the fact that
>      > despite the fact we have 2 constituencies within our SG, we only
>     have
>      > one slot in the Nomcom as opposed to other parts of the GNSO
>     having two
>      > slots.
>      >
>      > Best,
>      > B
>      >
>      > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 3:50 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC
>      > <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>     <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Here is my suggested response to Greg's question about the NomCom
>      >     changes.
>      >
>      >     Google doc at:
>      >
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing>>
>      >
>      >
>      >     The question is "Do you believe there would be any objections
>     from your
>      >     groups, and potentially delegates that you have already
>     identified, to
>      >     proceeding with a simple path forward in which we randomly
>     select three
>      >     of seven GNSO delegates to serve one-year terms?"
>      >
>      >     We do find that the recommendations and internally
>     inconsistent and
>      >     should not have been approved. On one hand the recommendations
>      >     call for staggered terms in order to provide continuity and to
>      >     avoid an "all new faces" situation, but then on the other hand
>      >     force all representatives to be new appointees (with reappointing
>      >     existing representatives specifically not allowed) at the
>     beginning
>      >     of the new term structure.
>      >
>      >     We also note that the random selection of lengths of initial
>      >     terms might be appropriate for an AC like ALAC as they don't
>      >     have multiple constituencies with diverging interests and
>      >     uneven representation. We don't think it is appropriate
>      >     for the GNSO.
>      >
>      >     In addition to the issue about initial terms, we also want
>      >     to once again note another reason the recommendations should
>      >     not have been approved. In the draft recommendations there
>      >     was almost to the end a recommendation for a NomCom rebalancing.
>      >     It is our understanding that that recommendation was removed
>      >     at the last moment, based on a vote taken at one single meeting
>      >     where none of our constituencies were represented. We don't
>      >     feel that is how consensus policy should be decided.
>      >
>      >     On behalf of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC,
>      >
>      >              Julf Helsingius, NCSG Chair
>      >
>      >
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