[NCSG-PC] Nomcom comments
Johan Helsingius
julf at julf.com
Tue Jun 11 17:48:59 EEST 2024
The argument is good, but we need to keep the two issues
(terms and representation) separate.
Julf
On 11/06/2024 16:46, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> Added it w/ change marks, feel free to take it out if you want but
> thought it would be another good argument.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 4:44 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com
> <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
>
> Now anyone can comment. Not sure we need to emphasize the representation
> point - we have made a lot of noise about it already, but we want to
> have it formally noted.
>
> Julf
>
>
> On 11/06/2024 16:00, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> > Thanks for this, Julf.
> >
> > I asked to add comments to the reply but the document is closed for
> > comments. Id maybe just add in an even clearer way that we are not
> > onboard with this suggestion especially in light of the fact that
> > despite the fact we have 2 constituencies within our SG, we only
> have
> > one slot in the Nomcom as opposed to other parts of the GNSO
> having two
> > slots.
> >
> > Best,
> > B
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 3:50 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC
> > <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>> wrote:
> >
> > Here is my suggested response to Greg's question about the NomCom
> > changes.
> >
> > Google doc at:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2EIBHxO68xOklCFqw44Df8f225QCR94eDobzlXZ9CI/edit?usp=sharing>>
> >
> >
> > The question is "Do you believe there would be any objections
> from your
> > groups, and potentially delegates that you have already
> identified, to
> > proceeding with a simple path forward in which we randomly
> select three
> > of seven GNSO delegates to serve one-year terms?"
> >
> > We do find that the recommendations and internally
> inconsistent and
> > should not have been approved. On one hand the recommendations
> > call for staggered terms in order to provide continuity and to
> > avoid an "all new faces" situation, but then on the other hand
> > force all representatives to be new appointees (with reappointing
> > existing representatives specifically not allowed) at the
> beginning
> > of the new term structure.
> >
> > We also note that the random selection of lengths of initial
> > terms might be appropriate for an AC like ALAC as they don't
> > have multiple constituencies with diverging interests and
> > uneven representation. We don't think it is appropriate
> > for the GNSO.
> >
> > In addition to the issue about initial terms, we also want
> > to once again note another reason the recommendations should
> > not have been approved. In the draft recommendations there
> > was almost to the end a recommendation for a NomCom rebalancing.
> > It is our understanding that that recommendation was removed
> > at the last moment, based on a vote taken at one single meeting
> > where none of our constituencies were represented. We don't
> > feel that is how consensus policy should be decided.
> >
> > On behalf of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC,
> >
> > Julf Helsingius, NCSG Chair
> >
> >
> >
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