From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 12:44:08 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:44:08 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments: Draft ICANN FY25 Plans Operating Plan and Budget In-Reply-To: <11dc5980-386d-445d-8a71-54833025027a@jhellerstein.com> References: <11dc5980-386d-445d-8a71-54833025027a@jhellerstein.com> Message-ID: Hi PC, Could we all take a close look at this draft to see if we are all comfortable with it being submitted as an NCSG comment please? Warmly, Tomslin ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Judith Hellerstein Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 09:35 Subject: Public Comments: Draft ICANN FY25 Plans Operating Plan and Budget To: Hi All, I had volunteered to draft the public comments for NCSG in response to the ICANN FY 25 Operating Plans and Budget. Here is the link to the Google doc where I invite everyone to comment. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UGLgno5o1NwES0g6cquimnYCzu7OnFp5OF00qhi_dic/edit#heading=h.w4n3hs47fynq The deadline for the Public Comments is February 12 so I am assuming we would need it done sooner to pass the council The FY25 plans also cover the Strategic plans, which include the more than 10 Strategic Objectives and Goals and ICANN's response to them. I have tried to cover as many of them as I can, but there are many which I am not as knowledgeable on and hope that others can provide some comments on these operating and strategic initiatives I have not covered. Please add these directly to the Google DOC. I have retained editing right but have allowed commenting by all who are interested. Here is the link to the ICANN documents mentioned in the comment. https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/draft-icann-fy25-plans-12-12-2023 Looking forward to people's comments and to finalising it before the deadline Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY: Draft ICANN FY25 Plans and Draft PTI FY25 Operating Plan and Budget Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 07:35:40 +1100 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar To: judith at jhellerstein.com Hi Judith, Thanks for volunteering. Please go ahead and create a Google doc for the comment (with anyone with link can edit access) Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 05:24, Judith Hellerstein wrote: > HI Tomslin, > > Happy to help draft a reply to the ICANN FY25 plan > > Best, > > Judith > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO > Hellerstein & Associates > 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 > Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein > Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 > E-mail: Judith at jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com > Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ > Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide > > > On 1/14/24 3:29 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > > Hi NCSG, > > There are currently two (2) budget and planning related open public > comments. > > 1. Draft ICANN FY25 Plans > > ? Close date of 12 February 2024 > 2. Draft PTI FY25 Operating Plan and Budget > > ? Close date also 12 February 2024 > > If you would like to volunteer to draft a comment on behalf of NCSG, > please let me know. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 12:48:36 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:48:36 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Response to ICANN Board on PICs/RVCs Community Consultation In-Reply-To: References: <28037E3F-C996-4255-AC7E-712CD9B841E0@icann.org> <7ab1ec3e61e148dda862232193fc4db7@amazon.com> <35a79cc8-b30c-4349-83bd-feac187e2a10@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi PC, There have been some updates to this draft. Can I ask you all to please review the document to make sure we are comfortable with calling it an NCSG response? Warmly, Tomslin On Fri, 12 Jan 2024, 07:05 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, wrote: > Hi team, > > The NCSG response to the board consultation on the topic is now ready for > review. Can I ask that you kindly take a look please? Comment/edit. > > It is here >> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JGUqUFOTAWizS3PS_ICV1TvdfpU9mUgFkXdii-W4CHU/edit#heading=h.s5nu29c1pi24 > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2023 at 06:31, Tomslin Samme-Nlar > wrote: > >> Season greetings all, >> >> We are looking for volunteers to put together a response to this board >> consultation. Here is the link >> >> to the draft NCSG response document. I strongly encourage folks with a >> strong opinion on this topic to take the lead in drafting this response. I >> have seen some significant discussion already taking place on the NCUC >> list. Let's convert those to a formal response. >> >> Let me know if you'd like to volunteer to lead this for coordination >> purposes. >> >> Like Julf posted earlier, the deadline is 23 February. Also note that >> there is a webinar on the PICs/RVCs community consultation on 18 December >> 2023 (at 19:00-20:30 UTC). 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Caleb is our representative in > the new CCIG WG. > > Thanks, > > *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.* > Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia > NPOC Chair - NCSG/GNSO > MSc. Information Technology > Registered Linux User No.*533108.* > http://www.jmanurojas.com > > > *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas > * > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GIT d- s: a+ C+++ UL P+ L+++ !E !W+++ !N !o K+++ w-- !O M- V PS+ PE-- Y+ > PGP+ t+ 5 X++ R tv+ b+ DI D G e+++(+++)>+++ h+ r++ y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > > > > > > > El lunes, 29 de enero de 2024, 06:48:24 a. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar < > mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribi?: > > > Hi Team, > > After the extension, we received the following EOIs, in the order they > came in: > > 1. Bruna Santos > 2. Caleb Ogundele (Conditional if there are no candidates) > 3. Razoana Moslam (No statement) > 4. Remmy Nweke (Statement attached) > > Previous list: > > 1. Hago Dafalla > 2. Raymond Mamattah > 3. John Gbadamosi > 4. Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo > > > Let me know what your 2 choices are for the appointment. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > > > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 13:31, Juan Manuel Rojas > wrote: > > Hello, > I think Raymond should be out there. He is At large and it's everywhere. > Jhon is our rep on SubPro but he doesn't attend to the meetings... > > I don't identify the names of the others two. > My two cents > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 15:04, Tomslin Samme-Nlar > wrote: > Hello, > > Here are the candidates for the 2 vacant SSC appointment (in order of > submission): > > Hago Dafalla > Raymond Mamattah > John Gbadamosi > Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo > > For privacy reasons, I have sent their motivation statements privately. > > We need to decide by the end of Friday. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wisdom.dk at gmail.com Sat Feb 3 22:56:24 2024 From: wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Wisdom Donkor) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 20:56:24 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Candidates for SSC Refresh In-Reply-To: References: <961219638.967566.1705977053715@mail.yahoo.com> <1846818235.1384753.1706582560123@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I support Juan's suggestion. On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 11:47?pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, wrote: > Thank you, Juan. > > What do the others think? Please note the council is expected to give > consent to the new slate of members during the February meeting. > > We have to communicate to staff whether we are not filling the open > positions of if we are, whom. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, 13:42 Juan Manuel Rojas, wrote: > >> Hi everyone! >> My two choices would be: Bruna and Remmy. Caleb is our representative in >> the new CCIG WG. >> >> Thanks, >> >> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.* >> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia >> NPOC Chair - NCSG/GNSO >> MSc. Information Technology >> Registered Linux User No.*533108.* >> http://www.jmanurojas.com >> >> >> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas >> * >> >> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >> Version: 3.1 >> GIT d- s: a+ C+++ UL P+ L+++ !E !W+++ !N !o K+++ w-- !O M- V PS+ PE-- Y+ >> PGP+ t+ 5 X++ R tv+ b+ DI D G e+++(+++)>+++ h+ r++ y+ >> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> El lunes, 29 de enero de 2024, 06:48:24 a. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar < >> mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribi?: >> >> >> Hi Team, >> >> After the extension, we received the following EOIs, in the order they >> came in: >> >> 1. Bruna Santos >> 2. Caleb Ogundele (Conditional if there are no candidates) >> 3. Razoana Moslam (No statement) >> 4. Remmy Nweke (Statement attached) >> >> Previous list: >> >> 1. Hago Dafalla >> 2. Raymond Mamattah >> 3. John Gbadamosi >> 4. Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >> >> >> Let me know what your 2 choices are for the appointment. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> >> >> >> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 13:31, Juan Manuel Rojas >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I think Raymond should be out there. He is At large and it's everywhere. >> Jhon is our rep on SubPro but he doesn't attend to the meetings... >> >> I don't identify the names of the others two. >> My two cents >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 15:04, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Here are the candidates for the 2 vacant SSC appointment (in order of >> submission): >> >> Hago Dafalla >> Raymond Mamattah >> John Gbadamosi >> Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >> >> For privacy reasons, I have sent their motivation statements privately. >> >> We need to decide by the end of Friday. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In summary: *"The Board decision, reflected in the scorecard, notes that ?the Board has considered theGAC Advice and has determined that closed generic gTLD applications will not be permitted until such time as there is an approved methodology and criteria to evaluate whether or not a proposed closed domain is in the public interest.?"* Warmly, Tomslin ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: DiBiase, Gregory via council Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 03:32 Subject: [council] FW: [CORRESPONDENCE] Tripti Sinha to Jonathan Zuck and Greg DiBiase - Closed Generics To: COUNCIL at GNSO.ICANN.ORG Dear Councilors, Please see the attached letter from Tripti Sinha regarding Closed Generics. Thanks, Greg *From:* Wendy Profit *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 9:25 AM *To:* Jonathan Zuck ; DiBiase, Gregory < dibiase at amazon.com>; gnso-chairs at icann.org; gnso-secs at icann.org; ICANN At-Large Staff *Cc:* tripti.sinha at board.icann.org; Correspondence ; Board Ops Team ; Secretary *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [CORRESPONDENCE] Tripti Sinha to Jonathan Zuck and Greg DiBiase - Closed Generics *CAUTION*: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe. Dear Jonathan Zuck and Greg DiBiase, Please find the attached letter from Tripti Sinha regarding Closed Generics. 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URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Feb 7 12:01:19 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:01:19 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: <6E1F5790-900B-46D0-95C8-826E36AD8501@icann.org> References: <6E1F5790-900B-46D0-95C8-826E36AD8501@icann.org> Message-ID: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld To: julf at julf.com , benakin at gmail.com , jumaropi at yahoo.com , mcknight.glenn at gmail.com CC: Carlos Reyes , Michelle Bright , Board Ops Team , Mary Wong , David Olive /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently being drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on Wednesday 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with the Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the discussions in their respective breakout rooms. ** *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives and goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics should be included as part of the Plan. *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen Board-Adopted Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed to Solve* ??? ? ? ??Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett ??? ? ? ??Format of the engagement: discussion and input ??? ? ? ??Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There is currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than the Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* ? ? ? ? ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez ? ? ? ? ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ? ? ? ? ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use of breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session and take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate it moving forward. Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our joint session in Puerto Rico: *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies?* We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations (board-ops-team at icann.org ) ?the questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face meetings.?Given the finite time available for these meetings, please list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. Looking forward to engaging discussions during Prep Week and ICANN79! Best regards, Tripti Sinha Chair, ICANN Board of Directors From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 01:06:39 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 10:06:39 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> References: <6E1F5790-900B-46D0-95C8-826E36AD8501@icann.org> <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> Message-ID: " Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches" Shouldn't we experience at least one of these first before we can have any sensible views about it? I would suggest that our views on the above question be given only after 21 February. Warmly, Tomslin On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 21:01, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February > > - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the > Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - > does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue > improving engagement strategies? > > Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 > From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld > To: julf at julf.com , benakin at gmail.com > , jumaropi at yahoo.com , > mcknight.glenn at gmail.com > CC: Carlos Reyes , Michelle Bright > , Board Ops Team , > Mary Wong , David Olive > > > > /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// > > DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, > > **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** > > The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, > in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). > > It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting > year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the > first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in > the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently being > drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. > > As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our > partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting > (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, > which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community > members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This > session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on Wednesday > 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* > > This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms > hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. > Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to > join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with the > Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely > between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all > attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the > discussions in their respective breakout rooms. > > ** > > *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* > > ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge > > ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input > from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through > the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and > other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives and > goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics should be > included as part of the Plan. > > *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen Board-Adopted > Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed to Solve* > > ? Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett > > ? Format of the engagement: discussion and input > > ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes > clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are > superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no > longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There is > currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than the > Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy > development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on > this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. > > *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* > > ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez > > ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental > sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the > expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more > sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. > > The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement > opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. > > It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use of > breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services > available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session and > take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate it > moving forward. > > Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your > specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore > keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our > joint session in Puerto Rico: > > *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the > Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - > does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue > improving engagement strategies?* > > > We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. > > We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations > (board-ops-team at icann.org ) the > questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face > meetings. Given the finite time available for these meetings, please > list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate > getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. > > Looking forward to engaging discussions during Prep Week and ICANN79! > > Best regards, > > Tripti Sinha > > Chair, ICANN Board of Directors > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrea.glandon at icann.org Thu Feb 8 15:51:15 2024 From: andrea.glandon at icann.org (Andrea Glandon) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:51:15 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: References: <6E1F5790-900B-46D0-95C8-826E36AD8501@icann.org> <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> Message-ID: <18666DAA-DE7A-41B1-978E-D1DD9E065083@icann.org> Hello all, I think I can assist here. The questions sent from the Board are for your consideration and discussion during ICANN79. The due date of 21 February is for NCSG to submit questions/topics for the Board during your joint session at ICANN79. I have added the questions from the Board here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1suGn0boItqr6M04WzsmCLIQDvl9x8L7Oyv9WvVdUcMI/edit?usp=sharing Thank you! Kind Regards, Andrea From: NCSG-PC on behalf of Tomslin Samme-Nlar Date: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 17:07 To: Johan Helsingius Cc: ncsg-pc , NCSG EC Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions " Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches" Shouldn't we experience at least one of these first before we can have any sensible views about it? I would suggest that our views on the above question be given only after 21 February. Warmly, Tomslin On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 at 21:01, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC > wrote: We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld > To: julf at julf.com >, benakin at gmail.com >, jumaropi at yahoo.com >, mcknight.glenn at gmail.com > CC: Carlos Reyes >, Michelle Bright >, Board Ops Team >, Mary Wong >, David Olive > /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently being drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on Wednesday 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with the Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the discussions in their respective breakout rooms. ** *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives and goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics should be included as part of the Plan. *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen Board-Adopted Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed to Solve* ? Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett ? Format of the engagement: discussion and input ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There is currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than the Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use of breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session and take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate it moving forward. Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our joint session in Puerto Rico: *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies?* We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations (board-ops-team at icann.org >) the questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face meetings. Given the finite time available for these meetings, please list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. Looking forward to engaging discussions during Prep Week and ICANN79! Best regards, Tripti Sinha Chair, ICANN Board of Directors _______________________________________________ NCSG-EC mailing list NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec [lists.ncsg.is] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 15:14:49 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 00:14:49 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Candidates for SSC Refresh In-Reply-To: References: <961219638.967566.1705977053715@mail.yahoo.com> <1846818235.1384753.1706582560123@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I haven't seen any objection to Juan's suggestion of Bruna and Remmy. So, I will be sending these 2 names and also confirming that Arsene will continue to serve. FYI @Johan Helsingius Thank you all. Warmly, Tomslin @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 07:56, Wisdom Donkor wrote: > I support Juan's suggestion. > > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 11:47?pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, > wrote: > >> Thank you, Juan. >> >> What do the others think? Please note the council is expected to give >> consent to the new slate of members during the February meeting. >> >> We have to communicate to staff whether we are not filling the open >> positions of if we are, whom. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, 13:42 Juan Manuel Rojas, wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone! >>> My two choices would be: Bruna and Remmy. Caleb is our representative in >>> the new CCIG WG. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.* >>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia >>> NPOC Chair - NCSG/GNSO >>> MSc. Information Technology >>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.* >>> http://www.jmanurojas.com >>> >>> >>> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas >>> * >>> >>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >>> Version: 3.1 >>> GIT d- s: a+ C+++ UL P+ L+++ !E !W+++ !N !o K+++ w-- !O M- V PS+ PE-- Y+ >>> PGP+ t+ 5 X++ R tv+ b+ DI D G e+++(+++)>+++ h+ r++ y+ >>> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> El lunes, 29 de enero de 2024, 06:48:24 a. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar < >>> mesumbeslin at gmail.com> escribi?: >>> >>> >>> Hi Team, >>> >>> After the extension, we received the following EOIs, in the order they >>> came in: >>> >>> 1. Bruna Santos >>> 2. Caleb Ogundele (Conditional if there are no candidates) >>> 3. Razoana Moslam (No statement) >>> 4. Remmy Nweke (Statement attached) >>> >>> Previous list: >>> >>> 1. Hago Dafalla >>> 2. Raymond Mamattah >>> 3. John Gbadamosi >>> 4. Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >>> >>> >>> Let me know what your 2 choices are for the appointment. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Tomslin >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 13:31, Juan Manuel Rojas >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> I think Raymond should be out there. He is At large and it's everywhere. >>> Jhon is our rep on SubPro but he doesn't attend to the meetings... >>> >>> I don't identify the names of the others two. >>> My two cents >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 15:04, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >>> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Here are the candidates for the 2 vacant SSC appointment (in order of >>> submission): >>> >>> Hago Dafalla >>> Raymond Mamattah >>> John Gbadamosi >>> Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >>> >>> For privacy reasons, I have sent their motivation statements privately. >>> >>> We need to decide by the end of Friday. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Tomslin >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wisdom.dk at gmail.com Fri Feb 9 15:19:26 2024 From: wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Wisdom Donkor) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 13:19:26 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Candidates for SSC Refresh In-Reply-To: References: <961219638.967566.1705977053715@mail.yahoo.com> <1846818235.1384753.1706582560123@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: +1 *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+, CISM, CEH Certified,) President & CEO Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC) P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | www.aodirf.org / www. agdic.info Tel: +233 20 812 8851 Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom | Twitter: @wisdom_dk _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ICANN GNSO Council Member | ICANN transfer policy review working group Member | Council Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous Improvement (CCOICI) | UN IGF MAG Member | IGF Support Fund Association Executive Committee Member, World Bank Independent Consultant | AU AFIGF Member | Ghana OGP Advisory Committee member | GSS SDGs Advisory Committee Member ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Specialization: E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet Governance, Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber Security, Geospatial Technologies, Open Source Technologies, Domain Name Systems, Human Resource Planning and Development, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management, On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:15?PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't seen any objection to Juan's suggestion of Bruna and Remmy. So, > I will be sending these 2 names and also confirming that Arsene will > continue to serve. > > FYI @Johan Helsingius > > Thank you all. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 07:56, Wisdom Donkor wrote: > >> I support Juan's suggestion. >> >> >> On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 11:47?pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you, Juan. >>> >>> What do the others think? Please note the council is expected to give >>> consent to the new slate of members during the February meeting. >>> >>> We have to communicate to staff whether we are not filling the open >>> positions of if we are, whom. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Tomslin >>> >>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, 13:42 Juan Manuel Rojas, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone! >>>> My two choices would be: Bruna and Remmy. Caleb is our representative >>>> in the new CCIG WG. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.* >>>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia >>>> NPOC Chair - NCSG/GNSO >>>> MSc. Information Technology >>>> Registered Linux User No.*533108.* >>>> http://www.jmanurojas.com >>>> >>>> >>>> *Cel. +57 301 743 56 00Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas >>>> * >>>> >>>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >>>> Version: 3.1 >>>> GIT d- s: a+ C+++ UL P+ L+++ !E !W+++ !N !o K+++ w-- !O M- V PS+ PE-- >>>> Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X++ R tv+ b+ DI D G e+++(+++)>+++ h+ r++ y+ >>>> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El lunes, 29 de enero de 2024, 06:48:24 a. m. GMT-5, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >>>> escribi?: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Team, >>>> >>>> After the extension, we received the following EOIs, in the order they >>>> came in: >>>> >>>> 1. Bruna Santos >>>> 2. Caleb Ogundele (Conditional if there are no candidates) >>>> 3. Razoana Moslam (No statement) >>>> 4. Remmy Nweke (Statement attached) >>>> >>>> Previous list: >>>> >>>> 1. Hago Dafalla >>>> 2. Raymond Mamattah >>>> 3. John Gbadamosi >>>> 4. Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >>>> >>>> >>>> Let me know what your 2 choices are for the appointment. >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Tomslin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 13:31, Juan Manuel Rojas >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I think Raymond should be out there. He is At large and it's >>>> everywhere. Jhon is our rep on SubPro but he doesn't attend to the >>>> meetings... >>>> >>>> I don't identify the names of the others two. >>>> My two cents >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 15:04, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >>>> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Here are the candidates for the 2 vacant SSC appointment (in order of >>>> submission): >>>> >>>> Hago Dafalla >>>> Raymond Mamattah >>>> John Gbadamosi >>>> Adebunmi Adeola Akinbo >>>> >>>> For privacy reasons, I have sent their motivation statements privately. >>>> >>>> We need to decide by the end of Friday. >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Tomslin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If like most, it's been a while since you read the NCSG charter, I want to use this opportunity to remind all of us what the roles and responsibility of the Policy Committee is. *2.5 The Policy Committee* *The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:* 1. *Discussion and development of substantive policies and statements issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will require coordination with the membership and the Constituencies;* 2. *Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, including PDP initiatives from the membership;* 3. *Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives on the GNSO Council;* 4. *Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities;* 5. *Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG participation in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups.* 6. *Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council Procedures or Council decisions.* 7. *Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG?EC.* There have been many suggestions over the years with regards to updating or improving some aspects of our methods & procedures, and I believe @Johan Helsingius also have some suggestions but the one I wanted to bring to your immediate attention is a possible template for public comments. *PUBLIC COMMENT TEMPLATE* In the past (as far as I can recollect), we've simply used past comments as a template for new comments, though not explicit. Considering that different submitted comments have different structures, newcommers have expressed frustration and how quick it is to work out how we expect penholders to structure comments. With that in mind, I thought I'd solicit your views on a proposal to create a public comment template and if agreeable, I'd like to have a few people volunteer to build such a template for PC endorsement. Please respond with your thoughts and suggestions. 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First to the draft NCAP 1 report (see our comment here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_27iFmqrAnVJ7Aq1jedo9CmBlb6MbBFq-roaMpb-xGU/edit), then to the Study 1 Final Report (see our comment here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yX-RRpYsgfZbFO8QkK439-CLs4lbNo7-YmiOgs2Gx_o/edit ) With this in mind, I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible to all in order to kick off the discussion and comments: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SLY3nG3ZCQBcpV9vxTl5UjCdBjjd5kIU0OTMFOnLXck/edit?usp=sharing Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in drafting the NCSG comment and join the drafting team. You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki page https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2023 and listing those who drafted them or volunteered. Warmly, Tomslin NCSG Policy Committee Chair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind Regards, Andrea From: Planning Date: Monday, February 12, 2024 at 11:59 To: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Cc: Andrea Glandon Subject: Re: [Ext] Request for Extension of the Draft ICANN FY25 Plans Public Comment Dear NCSG, Apologies but we are not able to provide an extension to the deadline. However, we will still include late submissions in the listing of public comments received but we indicate that we received the submission after the submission deadline for public comments had expired. The report is structured by themes of public comments received and for a late submission, we point any questions that are in common with other questions received to the theme where the response can be found. We have an example of this in the Appendix Section 6.2 from the Draft FY23 Operating Plan and Budget Public Comment Summary Report: https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/budget-plan-operating-plan-and-strategy-plan/summary-report-draft-fy23-27-operating-financial-plan-fy23-operating-plan-budget-30-03-2022-en.pdf We encourage your group to submit any comments they have ready before the deadline to ensure they receive a response in the Public Comment Summary report. Thank you. Sincerely, ICANN Planning Team From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar Date: Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 11:43?AM To: Planning Cc: Andrea Glandon Subject: [Ext] Request for Extension of the Draft ICANN FY25 Plans Public Comment Dear Planning, We (NSCG) would like to request for an extension to the closing date of submission of this comment, if it is possible. That is because we are still reviewing the comment our members have drafted before we can submit it. Let me know if this is possible as soon as possible please. 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Warmly, Tomslin On Tue, 13 Feb 2024, 05:29 Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC, < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Please note the response below regarding an extension on the Draft ICANN > FY25 Plans public comment proceeding. > > > > Thanks! > > Kind Regards, > > Andrea > > > > > > *From: *Planning > *Date: *Monday, February 12, 2024 at 11:59 > *To: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar > *Cc: *Andrea Glandon > *Subject: *Re: [Ext] Request for Extension of the Draft ICANN FY25 Plans > Public Comment > > > > Dear NCSG, > > Apologies but we are not able to provide an extension to the deadline. > However, we will still include late submissions in the listing of public > comments received but we indicate that we received the submission after the > submission deadline for public comments had expired. > > > > The report is structured by themes of public comments received and for a > late submission, we point any questions that are in common with other > questions received to the theme where the response can be found. > > > > We have an example of this in the Appendix Section 6.2 from the Draft FY23 > Operating Plan and Budget Public Comment Summary Report: > > > https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/budget-plan-operating-plan-and-strategy-plan/summary-report-draft-fy23-27-operating-financial-plan-fy23-operating-plan-budget-30-03-2022-en.pdf > > > > We encourage your group to submit any comments they have ready before the > deadline to ensure they receive a response in the Public Comment Summary > report. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > ICANN Planning Team > > > > *From: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar > *Date: *Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 11:43?AM > *To: *Planning > *Cc: *Andrea Glandon > *Subject: *[Ext] Request for Extension of the Draft ICANN FY25 Plans > Public Comment > > > > Dear Planning, > > > > We (NSCG) would like to request for an extension to the closing date of > submission of this comment, if it is possible. That is because we are still > reviewing the comment our members have drafted before we can submit it. > > > > Let me know if this is possible as soon as possible please. > > > > Warmly, > > Tomslin > > NCSG Policy Committee Chair > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-EC mailing list > NCSG-EC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Feb 13 12:15:58 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 11:15:58 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Live Notes Now: NCSG Policy Call | 12 February at 11:30 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43e263b2-cbab-48c3-ae60-1db443452d4c@Julf.com> Hmm, seems I can't open the notes without logging in into otter. Julf On 12/02/2024 12:30, Wisdom Donkor via Otter.ai wrote: > Wisdom Donkor has invited you to the live notes for this meeting > ???????? ????????? ???????? > > Otter.ai logo > > > Wisdom Donkor has invited you to the live notes for this meeting > > NCSG Policy Call | 12 February at 11:30 UTC > > > ?Mon, Feb 12, 11:30AM - 1:00PM > > Participants > > > wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Owner) > > > andrea.glandon at icann.org, brenda.brewer at icann.org, > daniel.gluck at icann.org, ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu, > ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is & 1 more. > > > Open notes in Otter > > > Otter is Meeting Notes Made Easy > > > > transcribe icon > > > collaboration icon > > > teamwork icon > > Let Otter.ai take the notes > > > Easily search & share meeting notes > > > Edit & Comment in notes > > iOS > , Android , Chrome and Web > Otter.ai Inc. > 800 W. El Camino Real, Suite 170 > Mountain View, CA 94040 > Unsubscribe > Email preferences Terms Privacy > twitter > linkedin facebook > > > Otter.ai logo > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From wisdom.dk at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 14:24:44 2024 From: wisdom.dk at gmail.com (Wisdom Donkor) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 12:24:44 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Live Notes Now: NCSG Policy Call | 12 February at 11:30 UTC In-Reply-To: <43e263b2-cbab-48c3-ae60-1db443452d4c@Julf.com> References: <43e263b2-cbab-48c3-ae60-1db443452d4c@Julf.com> Message-ID: Dear Johan, I apologise for you not able to access the otter AI notes. I was doing an experiment and was unaware that the programme was configured automatically to record my notes from every Zoom meeting that is places on my personal callendar. I have turned off automatic note-taking and sharing from the application mid way into the call. Please accept my apologies for not alerting the you and the community; I had no idea that notes were automatically taken until Andrea prompted on the zoom chat. Regards, *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+, CISM, CEH Certified,) President & CEO Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC) P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | www.aodirf.org / www. agdic.info Tel: +233 20 812 8851 Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom | Twitter: @wisdom_dk _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ICANN GNSO Council Member | ICANN transfer policy review working group Member | Council Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous Improvement (CCOICI) | UN IGF MAG Member | IGF Support Fund Association Executive Committee Member, World Bank Independent Consultant | AU AFIGF Member | Ghana OGP Advisory Committee member | GSS SDGs Advisory Committee Member ____________________________________________________________________________________________ Specialization: E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet Governance, Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber Security, Geospatial Technologies, Open Source Technologies, Domain Name Systems, Human Resource Planning and Development, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management, On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 10:16?AM Johan Helsingius wrote: > Hmm, seems I can't open the notes without logging in into otter. > > Julf > > > On 12/02/2024 12:30, Wisdom Donkor via Otter.ai wrote: > > Wisdom Donkor has invited you to the live notes for this meeting > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > > > Otter.ai logo > > < > https://u9660004.ct.sendgrid.net/uni/ls/click?upn=wQhZUw0WGBNzN-2B2dFJMuxTXbvlm-2BIhZjjGuVj-2ByxwyVJro6K-2FJbuCAATLFHO0VKgy3Vzt-2FKPOrDYyswk7qoisNX1ejNrLpuUbHkWaaGLwcG8cngjOumAQNeW3wfOtxhgueswDrPaO2JyPPxlpiK-2BAw-3D-3DCodX_x8m5YdvHMY20wJ04ZSkN6XNwE7UJShW3yBWbUR7cFAsi-2Bq3EXup6BohKiA-2BxbEJVrvlaeX0lVyZDv-2B17Kor7JoMBYb49hBF1kF1R8BytAyaBVUhV3VoVjBeJb-2FoS0gYQFUWsZrnhN3VAcHOso9g0cwnIMGck0teUMFJdyHdOk-2BD5YhyrDFkWlw1vMelu9TJNCDsqIscXC3wpPIh8oei1YmIoLprocsPBnXJBBu6Ac5aFGSIHb8lFupWNYQMmE9KlRCu-2BAr5YCzdlZTUj1GJkXYlo8HmP1gaioaLX43zAdAhTjvX4ikVlvmE1-2Bsg1SOD1TyAeR8RouEKChNhICbrzc40EWFrQMYc-2FZWpCNxIIbIVghMZ3-2Bz0aJzA8CGjBBVh8LGQlG4fWqqFFAUYhiKg1QlfFnUbBHSweXza8FOFudrioLVLkEqC-2BDiTrnU3JBRgcocbQVMnZLMArXOcQtgv7Tyc50AgipLoHGIheUmHV535zyKbuuJM-2BAJexg-2FMz9F5CMspHkAvr16sIR4sa-2BCX3yzxrxsmiTGvBCBOCRNj5Op7XJj9spr0Cqmr0ye3paohc > > > > > > Wisdom Donkor has invited you to the live notes for this meeting > > > > NCSG Policy Call | 12 February at 11:30 UTC > > > > > > Mon, Feb 12, 11:30AM - 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URL: From julf at Julf.com Tue Feb 13 14:35:32 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 13:35:32 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Live Notes Now: NCSG Policy Call | 12 February at 11:30 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <43e263b2-cbab-48c3-ae60-1db443452d4c@Julf.com> Message-ID: <892e4b26-e9f7-4fa8-bc76-b4438f9f76ca@Julf.com> Ahh, that AI sneaking in everywhere! No prob - thanks for explaining! Julf On 13/02/2024 13:24, Wisdom Donkor wrote: > Dear?Johan, > I apologise for you not able to access the otter AI notes. I was doing > an experiment and was unaware that the programme was configured > automatically to record my notes from every Zoom meeting that is places > on my personal callendar. I have turned off automatic note-taking and > sharing from the application mid way into the call. > Please accept my apologies for not alerting the you and the community; I > had no idea that notes were automatically taken until Andrea prompted on > the zoom chat. > > Regards, > > *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,? CISM, CEH Certified,) > President & CEO > Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa > Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC) > P.O. 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El Camino Real, Suite 170 > > Mountain View, CA 94040 > > Unsubscribe > > > > Email preferences > Terms > Privacy > > > twitter > > > >? ? ?linkedin >? ? facebook > > > > > > > Otter.ai logo > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NCSG-PC mailing list > > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > From compsoftnet at gmail.com Tue Feb 13 20:12:37 2024 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 13:12:37 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Public Comments & Policy Committee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Tomslin for the reminder and the suggestion for creating a template for public comments. We can collate the existing templates, review and make necessary changes to meet immediate needs. However, I am afraid it won't possible to have a one size fit all template. I would say in addition to the review public comment template we should constantly organise public comment writing training. This will ensure readiness of the community as we can't demand skills that we dont know exit. My 2cent. Peter. On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, 7:27 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, wrote: > Dear policy members, > > I want to take the opportunity to officially welcome the new members to > the 2024 Policy Committee. If like most, it's been a while since you read > the NCSG charter, I want to use this opportunity to remind all of us what > the roles and responsibility of the Policy Committee is. > > *2.5 The Policy Committee* > > *The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:* > > 1. *Discussion and development of substantive policies and statements > issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will require coordination > with the membership and the Constituencies;* > 2. *Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, > including PDP initiatives from the membership;* > 3. *Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives on > the GNSO Council;* > 4. *Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities;* > 5. *Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG participation > in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups.* > 6. *Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO > Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council Procedures or > Council decisions.* > 7. *Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. Such > documentation is subject to review by the NCSG?EC.* > > There have been many suggestions over the years with regards to updating > or improving some aspects of our methods & procedures, and I believe @Johan > Helsingius also have some suggestions but the one I > wanted to bring to your immediate attention is a possible template for > public comments. > > *PUBLIC COMMENT TEMPLATE* > In the past (as far as I can recollect), we've simply used past comments > as a template for new comments, though not explicit. Considering that > different submitted comments have different structures, newcommers have > expressed frustration and how quick it is to work out how we expect > penholders to structure comments. With that in mind, I thought I'd solicit > your views on a proposal to create a public comment template and if > agreeable, I'd like to have a few people volunteer to build such a template > for PC endorsement. > > Please respond with your thoughts and suggestions. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Wed Feb 14 01:34:27 2024 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie E Perrin) Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 18:34:27 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Public Comments & Policy Committee In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38567718-f7ab-4efa-9601-ac5fde60fdbb@mail.utoronto.ca> I agree that one size cannot fit all, but the general info about NCSG must be there and the website needs to be updated with new comments.?? I think we have fallen away from a standard format partly because ICANN staff have been experimenting with new formats themselves....e.g. these wretched google forms that only accept so many words in a box,, forms that preclude you commenting on material that they do not include in their form.? In these cases, we need to return to a standard prose document that compiles all our responses to the questions that were not asked, ones we wish to raise. I am very sorry to disappoint Judith and Remmie but this thing deserved a lot more of our attention. cheers Stephanie On 2024-02-13 1:12 p.m., Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote: > Thanks Tomslin for the reminder and the suggestion for creating a > template for public comments. > > We can collate the existing templates, review and make > necessary?changes to meet immediate needs. However, I am afraid it > won't possible to have a one size fit all template. > > I would say in addition to the review public comment template we > should constantly organise public comment writing training. > > This will ensure readiness of the community as we can't demand skills > that we dont know exit. > > My 2cent. > > Peter. > > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, 7:27 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, > wrote: > > Dear policy members, > > I want to take the opportunity to officially welcome the new > members to the 2024 Policy Committee. If like most, it's been a > while since you read the NCSG charter, I want to use this > opportunity to remind all of us what the roles and responsibility > of the Policy Committee is. > > */2.5 The Policy Committee/* > > /The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:/ > > 1. /Discussion and development of substantive policies and > statements issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will > require coordination with the membership and the Constituencies;/ > 2. /Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, > including PDP initiatives from the membership;/ > 3. /Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives > on the GNSO Council;/ > 4. /Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities;/ > 5. /Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG > participation in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups./ > 6. /Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO > Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council > Procedures or Council decisions./ > 7. /Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. > Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG?EC./ > > There have been many suggestions over the years with regards to > updating or improving some aspects of our methods & procedures, > and I believe @Johan Helsingius ? also have > some suggestions but the one I wanted to bring to your immediate > attention is a possible template for public comments. > > *_PUBLIC COMMENT TEMPLATE_* > In the past (as far as I can recollect), we've simply used past > comments as a template for new comments, though not explicit. > Considering that different submitted comments have different > structures, newcommers have expressed frustration and how quick it > is to work out how we expect penholders to structure comments. > With that in mind, I thought I'd solicit your views on a proposal > to create a public comment template and if agreeable, I'd like to > have a few people volunteer to build such a template for PC > endorsement. > > Please respond with your thoughts and suggestions. > > Warmly, > Tomslin > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Wed Feb 14 02:03:52 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:03:52 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Public Comments & Policy Committee In-Reply-To: <38567718-f7ab-4efa-9601-ac5fde60fdbb@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <38567718-f7ab-4efa-9601-ac5fde60fdbb@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Loving the inputs. Please keep them coming. I want to encourage PC members who are not council members to please also contribute to this discussion. You were all one time newcommers to writing these documents, so you must have something to say ?. Warmly, Tomslin On Wed, 14 Feb 2024, 10:34 Stephanie E Perrin, < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > I agree that one size cannot fit all, but the general info about NCSG must > be there and the website needs to be updated with new comments. I think > we have fallen away from a standard format partly because ICANN staff have > been experimenting with new formats themselves....e.g. these wretched > google forms that only accept so many words in a box,, forms that preclude > you commenting on material that they do not include in their form. In > these cases, we need to return to a standard prose document that compiles > all our responses to the questions that were not asked, ones we wish to > raise. > > I am very sorry to disappoint Judith and Remmie but this thing deserved a > lot more of our attention. > > cheers Stephanie > On 2024-02-13 1:12 p.m., Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote: > > Thanks Tomslin for the reminder and the suggestion for creating a template > for public comments. > > We can collate the existing templates, review and make necessary changes > to meet immediate needs. However, I am afraid it won't possible to have a > one size fit all template. > > I would say in addition to the review public comment template we should > constantly organise public comment writing training. > > This will ensure readiness of the community as we can't demand skills that > we dont know exit. > > My 2cent. > > Peter. > > > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, 7:27 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, > wrote: > >> Dear policy members, >> >> I want to take the opportunity to officially welcome the new members to >> the 2024 Policy Committee. If like most, it's been a while since you read >> the NCSG charter, I want to use this opportunity to remind all of us what >> the roles and responsibility of the Policy Committee is. >> >> *2.5 The Policy Committee* >> >> *The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:* >> >> 1. *Discussion and development of substantive policies and statements >> issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will require coordination >> with the membership and the Constituencies;* >> 2. *Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, >> including PDP initiatives from the membership;* >> 3. *Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives on >> the GNSO Council;* >> 4. *Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities;* >> 5. *Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG participation >> in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups.* >> 6. *Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO >> Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council Procedures or >> Council decisions.* >> 7. *Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. Such >> documentation is subject to review by the NCSG?EC.* >> >> There have been many suggestions over the years with regards to updating >> or improving some aspects of our methods & procedures, and I believe @Johan >> Helsingius also have some suggestions but the one I >> wanted to bring to your immediate attention is a possible template for >> public comments. >> >> *PUBLIC COMMENT TEMPLATE* >> In the past (as far as I can recollect), we've simply used past comments >> as a template for new comments, though not explicit. Considering that >> different submitted comments have different structures, newcommers have >> expressed frustration and how quick it is to work out how we expect >> penholders to structure comments. With that in mind, I thought I'd solicit >> your views on a proposal to create a public comment template and if >> agreeable, I'd like to have a few people volunteer to build such a template >> for PC endorsement. >> >> Please respond with your thoughts and suggestions. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kathy at KathyKleiman.com Wed Feb 14 14:30:13 2024 From: Kathy at KathyKleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 07:30:13 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Public Comments & Policy Committee In-Reply-To: <38567718-f7ab-4efa-9601-ac5fde60fdbb@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <38567718-f7ab-4efa-9601-ac5fde60fdbb@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <60e7b3ac-38e3-4156-98e0-ccbc97ccf468@KathyKleiman.com> Agree completely!? The forms are a horror and limit input on key issues. On 2/13/2024 6:34 PM, Stephanie E Perrin wrote: > > I agree that one size cannot fit all, but the general info about NCSG > must be there and the website needs to be updated with new comments.?? > I think we have fallen away from a standard format partly because > ICANN staff have been experimenting with new formats > themselves....e.g. these wretched google forms that only accept so > many words in a box,, forms that preclude you commenting on material > that they do not include in their form. In these cases, we need to > return to a standard prose document that compiles all our responses to > the questions that were not asked, ones we wish to raise. > > I am very sorry to disappoint Judith and Remmie but this thing > deserved a lot more of our attention. > > cheers Stephanie > > On 2024-02-13 1:12 p.m., Akinremi Peter Taiwo wrote: >> Thanks Tomslin for the reminder and the suggestion for creating a >> template for public comments. >> >> We can collate the existing templates, review and make >> necessary?changes to meet immediate needs. However,? I am afraid it >> won't possible to have a one size fit all template. >> >> I would say in addition to the review public comment template we >> should constantly organise public comment writing training. >> >> This will ensure readiness of the community as we can't demand skills >> that we dont know exit. >> >> My 2cent. >> >> Peter. >> >> >> >> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, 7:27 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, >> wrote: >> >> Dear policy members, >> >> I want to take the opportunity to officially welcome the new >> members to the 2024 Policy Committee. If like most, it's been a >> while since you read the NCSG charter, I want to use this >> opportunity to remind all of us what the roles and responsibility >> of the Policy Committee is. >> >> */2.5 The Policy Committee/* >> >> /The NCSG Policy Committee is responsible for:/ >> >> 1. /Discussion and development of substantive policies and >> statements issued in the name of the NCSG. This activity will >> require coordination with the membership and the Constituencies;/ >> 2. /Organize policy initiatives on behalf of NCSG membership, >> including PDP initiatives from the membership;/ >> 3. /Provide policy research and guidance to NCSG representatives >> on the GNSO Council;/ >> 4. /Keep membership informed of GNSO Council activities;/ >> 5. /Organize, appoint where appropriate, and track NCSG >> participation in GNSO and other pertinent Working Groups./ >> 6. /Organization and oversight of NCSG participation in any GNSO >> Council-related tasks, whether mandated by Bylaws, Council >> Procedures or Council decisions./ >> 7. /Document methods and procedures used for decision-making. >> Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG?EC./ >> >> There have been many suggestions over the years with regards to >> updating or improving some aspects of our methods & procedures, >> and I believe @Johan Helsingius ? also have >> some suggestions but the one I wanted to bring to your immediate >> attention is a possible template for public comments. >> >> *_PUBLIC COMMENT TEMPLATE_* >> In the past (as far as I can recollect), we've simply used past >> comments as a template for new comments, though not explicit. >> Considering that different submitted comments have different >> structures, newcommers have expressed frustration and how quick >> it is to work out how we expect penholders to structure comments. >> With that in mind, I thought I'd solicit your views on a proposal >> to create a public comment template and if agreeable, I'd like to >> have a few people volunteer to build such a template for PC >> endorsement. >> >> Please respond with your thoughts and suggestions. >> >> Warmly, >> Tomslin >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at Julf.com Fri Feb 16 16:45:13 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 15:45:13 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> References: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> Message-ID: <3511a290-2472-456f-a588-c538bab4b1ae@Julf.com> The 21st is approaching. Any suggestions? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:01:19 +0100 From: Johan Helsingius To: NCSG EC , ncsg-pc We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies? Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld To: julf at julf.com , benakin at gmail.com , jumaropi at yahoo.com , mcknight.glenn at gmail.com CC: Carlos Reyes , Michelle Bright , Board Ops Team , Mary Wong , David Olive /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently being drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on Wednesday 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with the Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the discussions in their respective breakout rooms. ** *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives and goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics should be included as part of the Plan. *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen Board-Adopted Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed to Solve* ??? ? ? ??Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett ??? ? ? ??Format of the engagement: discussion and input ??? ? ? ??Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There is currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than the Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* ? ? ? ? ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez ? ? ? ? ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input ? ? ? ? ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use of breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session and take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate it moving forward. Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our joint session in Puerto Rico: *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement priorities and strategies in this space? - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue improving engagement strategies?* We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations (board-ops-team at icann.org ) ?the questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face meetings.?Given the finite time available for these meetings, please list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. Looking forward to engaging discussions during Prep Week and ICANN79! Best regards, Tripti Sinha Chair, ICANN Board of Directors From Kathy at KathyKleiman.com Fri Feb 16 16:55:56 2024 From: Kathy at KathyKleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:55:56 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: <3511a290-2472-456f-a588-c538bab4b1ae@Julf.com> References: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> <3511a290-2472-456f-a588-c538bab4b1ae@Julf.com> Message-ID: <21375fe8-bb17-4e1b-93f1-5c098df905ce@KathyKleiman.com> Question 2, I'm concerned. I'm not sure we should be doing "engagement" with other groups during Prep Week.? I thought we developed Prep Week to help bring people "up to speed" on issues that have been developing between the meetings.? What's happened? What's been written??? A way to prepare for discussions - and engagement - at the ICANN meeting. So shouldn't engagement be when we are face to face? Which leads to another question - what is the type of "engagement" taking place in these prep week sessions.? If they are just an initial discussion of material presented by PDP Co-Chairs, or ICANN Staff on IRTs, that sounds OK.? Everyone should be exploring. But if these sessions are designed to be cross-community sessions or cross-SG collaborations, please take it out of Prep Week and put it in the ICANN meeting!? That's where they belong - and we have good remote participation to bring in everyone. Best, Kathy On 2/16/2024 9:45 AM, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC wrote: > The 21st is approaching. Any suggestions? > > ????Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions > Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:01:19 +0100 > From: Johan Helsingius > To: NCSG EC , ncsg-pc > > We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February > > - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in > the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current > interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to > continue improving engagement strategies? > > ????Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject:???? ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions > Date:???? Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 > From:???? Vinciane Koenigsfeld > To:???? julf at julf.com , benakin at gmail.com > , jumaropi at yahoo.com , > mcknight.glenn at gmail.com > CC:???? Carlos Reyes , Michelle Bright > , Board Ops Team > , Mary Wong , David > Olive > > > > /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// > > DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, > > **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** > > The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, > in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). > > It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting > year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the > first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in > the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently > being drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. > > As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our > partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting > (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, > which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community > members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This > session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on > Wednesday 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* > > This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms > hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. > Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to > join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with > the Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely > between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all > attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the > discussions in their respective breakout rooms. > > ** > > *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* > > ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge > > ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input > from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through > the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and > other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives > and goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics > should be included as part of the Plan. > > *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen > Board-Adopted Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed > to Solve* > > ??? ? ? ??Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett > > ??? ? ? ??Format of the engagement: discussion and input > > ??? ? ? ??Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes > clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are > superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can > no longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There > is currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than > the Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy > development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on > this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. > > *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* > > ? ? ? ? ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez > > ? ? ? ? ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ? ? ? ? ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental > sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the > expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more > sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. > > The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement > opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. > > It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use > of breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services > available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session > and take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate > it moving forward. > > Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your > specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore > keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our > joint session in Puerto Rico: > > *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in > the Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current > interest - does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to > continue improving engagement strategies?* > > > We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. > > We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations > (board-ops-team at icann.org ) ?the > questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face > meetings.?Given the finite time available for these meetings, please > list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate > getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. > > Looking forward to engaging discussions during Prep Week and ICANN79! > > Best regards, > > Tripti Sinha > > Chair, ICANN Board of Directors > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 18:50:40 2024 From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 11:50:40 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-EC] Fwd: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions In-Reply-To: <3511a290-2472-456f-a588-c538bab4b1ae@Julf.com> References: <1ad11ba1-b0e1-4fc1-9d76-2333d929b851@Julf.com> <3511a290-2472-456f-a588-c538bab4b1ae@Julf.com> Message-ID: Hi Julf, If we share this with the NCSG mailing list we will have other members engaged as well hopefully. But in my opinion we should ask the Board to do a lightweight human rights impact assessment when they issue their resolutions. They already do risk assessment. See what they say. We should seek some clarification on .LB and its redelegation. What do they mean by "transfer" in this resolution a. Transfer of the .LB (Lebanon) top-level domain, do they mean it is a redelegation? We should also tell them what is the process in place when cases like .LB happens. I know it has been ad hoc, the manager suddenly passed away, his organization did not want to take on the responsibility so for awhile it was in limbo. What are the IANA processes on this when emergency like this happens or when civil war and conflict happens. I am specifically talking about this paragraph: What concerns or issues were raised by the community? "IANA is not aware of any significant issues or concerns raised by the community in relation to this request. Of note, an objection was raised outside of the IANA process. After research, the source and substance of the objection could not be verified." There were some concerns raised but it was more of whispering around. Had we had a certain and clear process run by IANA we would not have been whispering. Should we express concerns that our public comments were not addressed on the bilateral dns abuse amendment? Also can we tell the Board not to do this question answer format. It has never worked. Can we just have a conversation! Farzaneh On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 9:45?AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC < ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote: > The 21st is approaching. Any suggestions? > > Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Fwd: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions > Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 11:01:19 +0100 > From: Johan Helsingius > To: NCSG EC , ncsg-pc > > We need to have answers to the two questions by 21 February > > - There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the > Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - > does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue > improving engagement strategies? > > Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:56:03 +0000 > From: Vinciane Koenigsfeld > To: julf at julf.com , benakin at gmail.com > , jumaropi at yahoo.com , > mcknight.glenn at gmail.com > CC: Carlos Reyes , Michelle Bright > , Board Ops Team , > Mary Wong , David Olive > > > > /Sent on behalf of Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors/// > > DearNon/c//ommercial Stakeholder Group///Leaders, > > **Please reply no later than Wednesday 21 February 2024** > > The Board and I are very much looking forward to meeting with you All, > in Puerto Rico, for ICANN79 (02-07 March). > > It will be our first meeting of 2024, another important and exciting > year for ICANN as we continue to work together on multiple fronts: the > first phase of applications to the ICANN Grant Program to be opened in > the forthcoming weeks, the new five-year Strategic Plan currently being > drafted and of course the Next Round of new gTLDs, to name a few. > > As announced last year, wehave also continued working on enhancing our > partnership with the community. For the upcoming ICANN Public Meeting > (ICANN79),the Board is planning to hold an open engagement session, > which we hope will be another opportunity for interested community > members to engage directly with the Board on specific topics. *This > session will be part of ICANN79 Prep week and will be held on Wednesday > 21 February at 16:30 UTC.* > > This 60-minute engagement session will include three breakout rooms > hosted by different Board members, each covering a different topic. > Following a brief welcome plenary, community members will be asked to > join one of the three breakout rooms for a 40-minute discussion with the > Board hosts for that topic. Attendees will be able to move freely > between the three breakout rooms. The session will conclude with all > attendees coming together to hear each Board host?s summary of the > discussions in their respective breakout rooms. > > ** > > *Topic 1: FY26-30 Strategic Planning* > > ?Led by Maarten Botterman and Chris Buckridge > > ?Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ?Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will seek input > from attendees on how the input from the community ? including through > the various environmental scans, strategic trend outlook sessions and > other consultations ? can form the basis of the strategic objectives and > goals for the next Five-Year Strategic Plan, and what metrics should be > included as part of the Plan. > > *Topic 2**:**The Board?s Role & Responsibilities **w**hen Board-Adopted > Policies Do Not Address the Problems They Were Developed to Solve* > > ? Led by Becky Burr and Alan Barrett > > ? Format of the engagement: discussion and input > > ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > invite community feedback on how to handle situations where it becomes > clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are > superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no > longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address. There is > currently no Bylaw or process for such a circumstance, other than the > Board requesting that the community initiate another full policy > development process. As the Board continues to engage with the GNSO on > this topic, the community is invited to brainstorm possible solutions. > > *Topic 3: Environmental Sustainability at ICANN* > > ? Led by Sally Costerton and Le?n Sanchez > > ? Format of the engagement: discussion and soliciting input > > ? Description: In this breakout room, the Board hosts will > solicit community input on how to best advance ICANN?s environmental > sustainability efforts, in line with FY24 CEO Goal 8. Drawing on the > expertise of the community will help shape the dialogue for more > sustainable planning for ICANN meetings and operations. > > The Board is very much looking forward to this new engagement > opportunity and hopes that you will participate actively. > > It is to be noted that there will be technical limitations to the use of > breakout rooms such as: no translation or transcription services > available. Yet the ICANN Staff will support this engagement session and > take notes. If this experiment is successful, we could replicate it > moving forward. > > Meanwhile though, it is important that we continue listening to your > specific needsduring our bilateral sessionsand we are also therefore > keeping to the practice of asking questionsto _your_Group ahead of our > joint session in Puerto Rico: > > *- There is an ICANN CEO goal to have the organization develop and > implement a communications and engagement strategy to address the WSIS > 20-year review - what are the NCSG?s views on ICANN engagement > priorities and strategies in this space? > > - Engagement with between groups and bodies in the ICANN space is > continuing to evolve, including with the introduction of session in the > Prep Week and breakout rooms on specific issues of current interest - > does the NCSG have views on these new approaches or how to continue > improving engagement strategies?* > > > We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this soon. > > We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations > (board-ops-team at icann.org ) the > questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face > meetings. 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Kind Regards, Andrea From: Andrea Glandon Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 15:54 To: "ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" Cc: Andrea Glandon Subject: REMINDER: ICANN79 ICANN Board/NCSG Topics Hello, The topics for the ICANN Board/NCSG joint session are due on Wednesday, 21 February. Please see the link below to a Google doc. Thanks! Kind Regards, Andrea From: Andrea Glandon Date: Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:17 To: "ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" Cc: Andrea Glandon Subject: ICANN79 ICANN Board/NCSG Topics Hello all, It is time to start thinking about the topics that the NCSG would like to put forward for the ICANN79 session with the ICANN Board. I have started a Google doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1suGn0boItqr6M04WzsmCLIQDvl9x8L7Oyv9WvVdUcMI/edit?usp=sharing. I have included a link to the ICANN78 topics on the Google doc as well. Thanks! 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I have an email out asking which hotel they are staying at and will let everyone know. Thanks! Kind Regards, Andrea *From: *Andrea Glandon *Date: *Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 09:48 *To: *"ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , "csg-excomm at icann.org" , Paul McGrady *Cc: *Brenda Brewer , Daniel Gluck , Carlos Reyes , Andrea Glandon *Subject: *Re: RESPONSE REQUESTED-ICANN79 Breakfast with GNSO Appointed Board Members Hello all, I have received a response from the BC that Monday, Wednesday or Thursday would work for breakfast. Any other suggestions? Do any of those days NOT work for anyone? Please respond by *Friday, 09 February at 16:00 UTC*. I will respond to Board Ops with the above unless I hear differently by Friday. Thanks! Kind Regards, Andrea *From: *Andrea Glandon *Date: *Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 09:08 *To: *"ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is" , "csg-excomm at icann.org" , Paul McGrady *Cc: *Brenda Brewer , Daniel Gluck , Carlos Reyes , Andrea Glandon *Subject: *RESPONSE REQUESTED-ICANN79 Breakfast with GNSO Appointed Board Members Hello all, One of the takeaways from the NCPH Day Zero meeting in Hamburg was to try to schedule a breakfast with ICANN Board Members at ICANN Public Meetings. I have reached out to Board Ops and a breakfast with the GNSO appointed Board Members, Becky Burr and Chris Buckridge, is possible. I can work with Board Ops to find a day that works for both Becky and Chris. Are there specific days that would work for the NCPH Executive team? I look forward to your response so we can get this scheduled. Thanks! *Andrea Glandon* Policy Operations Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *Skype ID:*acglandon76 From julf at Julf.com Wed Feb 21 18:58:49 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:58:49 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] ICANN79 Stakeholders/Board sessions (NCSG questions to the Board) In-Reply-To: References: <1991D724-27FC-4262-9621-69DC6A8706BB@icann.org> <6E1F5790-900B-46D0-95C8-826E36AD8501@icann.org> Message-ID: <1bac36c1-17c5-4f5a-a3be-37ed87c844b7@Julf.com> > We would be grateful if you could send to Board Operations > (board-ops-team at icann.org ) ?the > questions you would like the Board to address during our face-to-face > meetings.?Given the finite time available for these meetings, please > list your questions in order of priority.We would also appreciate > getting your questions no later than *_Wednesday 21 February, 2024_*. At ICANN77 and ICANN78 we had fairly long lists of questions, and as a result we did not have any time for an open, interactive conversation. Therefore we have decided to limit our questions and instead leave enough time for discussion. Our first question is related to the risk assessment that is routinely done on board resolutions - could a lightweight human rights impact assessment also be done on the resolutions? Our second question is related to the new Board open engagement session that is part of the ICANN79 Prep Week. Our understanding has been that the Prep Week was developed to help bring people up to speed on issues that have been developing between the meetings, but that the sessions are purely informational. Is the intention of the engagement session to introduce community engagement in the Prep Week as well as during the actual meeting? While we welcome all initiatives that aim to increase community engagement, we feel that it would be better to use the cross-community and cross-SG collaboration face-to-face and hybrid sessions rather than overloading the Prep Week. Our third and final question is related to the transfer of the .LB ccTLD. We understand that there were some special considerations due to a change in the circumstances of the former management arrangement, so we are interested in what procedures IANA has in place for dealing with situations like this, as well as emergency situations (such as civil war or conflict) affecting the management of a ccTLD. We also note that there was an objection raised, but it was still noted that there were no issues or concerns raised by the community. Best regards, Julf Helsingius, NCSG Chair From julf at Julf.com Thu Feb 22 17:17:21 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:17:21 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: REMINDER: Re: Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 In-Reply-To: <78B19EE0-7F22-4FDE-9F2F-85B7902F4B7D@icann.org> References: <78B19EE0-7F22-4FDE-9F2F-85B7902F4B7D@icann.org> Message-ID: Deadline approaching rapidly. Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: REMINDER: Re: Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 Please be reminded that *_the proposed due date for the CCOICI survey is Tuesday, 5 March 2024_*. We kindly request each SG/C to discuss each survey question as a group and submit one survey response per SG/C. We would like to encourage members to start the discussions in February (if not yet started) and use the ICANN79 Meeting in San Juan as a wrap-up and submission of the responses. Kindly be informed that this survey in pdf format has also been posted on wiki. We look forward to your kind cooperation and feedback. Thank you. Kind regards, CCOICI Team on behalf of the GNSO Council From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Feb 22 20:38:00 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 05:38:00 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 In-Reply-To: References: <83C30F78-EFE3-45C7-B8C8-4271F36AB2AA@icann.org> Message-ID: Hi all, Following Julf's email below, I have put the survey questions on a Google doc to ease collection of our responses. The CCOICI team anticipates a single submission for the whole SG, so please insert your thoughts into the document. We can then use some time in our PC meeting in Puerto Rico to discuss the responses and thereafter consolidate them. Warmly, Tomslin On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 at 17:27, Johan Helsingius < 00001963cc94b85a-dmarc-request at listserv.syr.edu> wrote: > Pursuant to the CCOICI Framework (29 June 2021) > < > https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/continuous-improvement-oversight-implementation-framework-29jun21-en.pdf>, > > the GNSO Council created the Committee for Overseeing and Implementing > Continuous Improvement (CCOICI) as the first step of a pilot to allow > for a more limited rollout of the GNSO Framework, rather than an > immediate implementation of the whole Framework, should the Council and > GNSO community decide that it is worthwhile to continue. The objective > of the CCOICI was to create a framework that allows for the continuous > scoping and execution of projects that are focused on GNSO?s structural, > procedural, and process improvements. Please refer to the Charter > for further > details. > > Subsequently, the CCOICI worked on and delivered recommendations to the > GNSO Council on three topics: 1) GNSO Working Group Self-Assessment > Requirements; 2) GNSO Statement of Interest (SOI) Requirements; and 3) > Assessment of Accountability Work Stream 2 implementation status and > ranking of recommendations to help inform the prioritization by the > Community Coordination Group. The CCOICI handled the first two topics > directly while launching a Task Force (TF) to review and provide > recommendations on GNSO SOI Requirements. > > Regarding CCOICI structure and the handling of these three tasks, and in > consideration of the efficiency of the structure and mechanism, the > CCOICI would like to conduct a satisfaction survey of each SG/C to > evaluate if the Council and GNSO community see value in continuing the > use of the CCOICI Framework. > > The results of this survey would be public and used to support the > continuous improvement program as well as input for the Holistic Review, > determining whether the objective and scope of the Framework was clear > and appropriate, if the Framework should continue and if so, how it > could be improved. If the survey results note a significant issue, this > shall be the trigger to initiate appropriate measures to deal with any > such issues. > > The proposed due date for this survey is Tuesday, 5 March 2024. We > kindly request each SG/C to discuss each survey question as a group and > submit one survey response per SG/C. We would like to encourage members > to start the discussions in February and use the ICANN79 Meeting in San > Juan as a wrap-up and submission of the responses. > > Herewith attached are the survey questions in a document format > < > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qro5LApC5bUfjr1uSb-Q5lofzJAly0jyiWs6oX0ofHo/edit>for > > your reference. Kindly enter each SG/C's single, consolidated response > into the survey link for > submission. > > We look forward to your kind cooperation and feedback. Thank you. > > Kind regards, > > CCOICI Team on behalf of the GNSO Council > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Julf -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: npoc Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 07:34:23 +0800 From: Steve Liu To: admin (Please kindly forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If you believe this has been sent to you in error, please ignore it. Thanks) Dear CEO, We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. We received an application from Hongyuan Ltd on February 25, 2024. They want to register "npoc" as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (npoc.cn, npoc.com.cn, npoc.net.cn, npoc.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China? Best Regards *Steve Liu*?|?Service & Operations Manager *China?Registry (Head Office)* ** Tel: +86-2161918696 Fax: +86-2161918697 Mob: +86-13816428671 No. 1780 Wuzhong Road, Shanghai 201103, China ***************************************** This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email. From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca Sun Feb 25 16:46:58 2024 From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Digital) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:46:58 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] npoc domain registration request in China? In-Reply-To: <9aed4833-95cf-487b-982b-09033458c874@Julf.com> References: <9aed4833-95cf-487b-982b-09033458c874@Julf.com> Message-ID: sure sounds fishy to me... cheers Steph Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2024, at 04:33, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC wrote: > > ?Is this legit? > > Julf > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: npoc > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 07:34:23 +0800 > From: Steve Liu > To: admin > > > > (Please kindly forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If you believe this has been sent to you in error, please ignore it. Thanks) > Dear CEO, > We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. We received an application from Hongyuan Ltd on February 25, 2024. They want to register "npoc" as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (npoc.cn, npoc.com.cn, npoc.net.cn, npoc.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China? > Best Regards > > *Steve Liu* | Service & Operations Manager > > *China Registry (Head Office)* > > ** > > Tel: +86-2161918696 > > Fax: +86-2161918697 > > Mob: +86-13816428671 > > No. 1780 Wuzhong Road, Shanghai 201103, China > > ***************************************** > > This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email. > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From Kathy at KathyKleiman.com Sun Feb 25 18:05:19 2024 From: Kathy at KathyKleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:05:19 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] npoc domain registration request in China? In-Reply-To: References: <9aed4833-95cf-487b-982b-09033458c874@Julf.com> Message-ID: It's a way of drumming up business...they've been sending similar messages out for years. On 2/25/2024 9:46 AM, Digital wrote: > sure sounds fishy to me... > cheers Steph > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 25, 2024, at 04:33, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC wrote: >> >> ?Is this legit? >> >> Julf >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: npoc >> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 07:34:23 +0800 >> From: Steve Liu >> To: admin >> >> >> >> (Please kindly forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If you believe this has been sent to you in error, please ignore it. Thanks) >> Dear CEO, >> We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. We received an application from Hongyuan Ltd on February 25, 2024. They want to register "npoc" as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (npoc.cn, npoc.com.cn, npoc.net.cn, npoc.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China? >> Best Regards >> >> *Steve Liu* | Service & Operations Manager >> >> *China Registry (Head Office)* >> >> ** >> >> Tel: +86-2161918696 >> >> Fax: +86-2161918697 >> >> Mob: +86-13816428671 >> >> No. 1780 Wuzhong Road, Shanghai 201103, China >> >> ***************************************** >> >> This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca Sun Feb 25 18:22:39 2024 From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Digital) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:22:39 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] npoc domain registration request in China? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DA2262C-1F60-4887-A9C5-26A8C6A56ABD@digitaldiscretion.ca> Thank goodness we have you Kathy!! I would never have known. cheers Steph Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2024, at 11:05, Kathy Kleiman wrote: > > ?It's a way of drumming up business...they've been sending similar messages out for years. > >> On 2/25/2024 9:46 AM, Digital wrote: >> sure sounds fishy to me... >> cheers Steph >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Feb 25, 2024, at 04:33, Johan Helsingius via NCSG-PC wrote: >>> >>> ?Is this legit? >>> >>> Julf >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: npoc >>> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 07:34:23 +0800 >>> From: Steve Liu >>> To: admin >>> >>> >>> >>> (Please kindly forward this to your CEO, because this is urgent. If you believe this has been sent to you in error, please ignore it. Thanks) >>> Dear CEO, >>> We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center in Shanghai, China. We received an application from Hongyuan Ltd on February 25, 2024. They want to register "npoc" as their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (npoc.cn, npoc.com.cn, npoc.net.cn, npoc.org.cn). But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China? >>> Best Regards >>> >>> *Steve Liu* | Service & Operations Manager >>> >>> *China Registry (Head Office)* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> Tel: +86-2161918696 >>> >>> Fax: +86-2161918697 >>> >>> Mob: +86-13816428671 >>> >>> No. 1780 Wuzhong Road, Shanghai 201103, China >>> >>> ***************************************** >>> >>> This email contains privileged and confidential information intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this email and inform the sender immediately. We appreciate you respecting the confidentiality of this information by not disclosing or using the information in this email. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Mon Feb 26 06:05:34 2024 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:05:34 +1100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Proposed Agenda | GNSO Council Meeting | Wednesday, 06 March 2024 In-Reply-To: <1F4F3961-D11E-4753-9B3B-09CFED81736F@icann.org> References: <1F4F3961-D11E-4753-9B3B-09CFED81736F@icann.org> Message-ID: Please see below. We'll discuss during our PC meeting in PR. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Terri Agnew via council Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024, 09:12 Subject: [council] Proposed Agenda | GNSO Council Meeting | Wednesday, 06 March 2024 To: council at gnso.icann.org , liaison6c at gnso.icann.org Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org Dear all, Please find below the final proposed agenda for the GNSO Council Meeting taking place on Wednesday, 06 March 2024 at 17:15 UTC for 2 hours This has been posted on the agenda wiki page . Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Policy Team Supporting the GNSO *Draft GNSO Council Agenda: * Please note that all documents referenced in the agenda have been gathered on a Wiki page for convenience and easier access: https://community.icann.org/x/8oAvEQ. This agenda was established according to the GNSO Operating Procedures v3.5, updated on 15 March 2023. For convenience: - An excerpt of the ICANN Bylaws defining the voting thresholds is provided in Appendix 1 at the end of this agenda. - An excerpt from the Council Operating Procedures defining the absentee voting procedures is provided in Appendix 2 at the end of this agenda. GNSO Council meeting on Wednesday, 06 March 2024 at 17:15 UTC: http://tinyurl.com/yc8h56uu 09:15 Los Angeles; 12:15 Washington DC; 17:15 London; 18:15 Paris; 20:15 Moscow; 04:15 Melbourne (Thursday) *GNSO Council Meeting Remote Participation: [Published 24 hours prior to meeting]* Councilors should notify the GNSO Secretariat in advance if they will not be able to attend and/or need a dial out call. ___________________________________ *Item 1: Administrative Matters (5 minutes)* 1.1 - Roll Call 1.2 - Updates to Statements of Interest 1.3 - Review / Amend Agenda 1.4 - Note the status of minutes for the previous Council meetings per the GNSO Operating Procedures: Minutes of the GNSO Council Meeting on 18 January 2024 were posted on 02 February 2024 Minutes (will be added on 02 March) of the GNSO Council Meeting on 15 February 2024 were posted on 02 March 2024 *Item 2: Opening Remarks / Review of Projects & Action List (0 minutes)* 2.1 - Review focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes / topics, to include review of Projects List and Action Item List. *Item 3: Consent Agenda (5 minutes)* - Motion to Adopt the Communications Small Team Final Report *Item 4: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Reaction to Program Management Tools Discussion (20 minutes)* During the Council?s recent Strategic Planning Session (SPS), Council Leadership and GNSO Support Staff provided an overview of the available program management tools to educate new councilors on what tools are available and how to best utilize them. Councilors noted that before any changes to the current tools are considered, it is incumbent on all Councilors to familiarize themselves with the existing tools. To that end, the Council agreed to do a comprehensive and detailed review of the program management tools on a tri-annual basis. The Council agreed the tri-annual cadence aligned with the current ICANN conference schedule, and the first of these reviews was conducted during the Council?s Working Session at ICANN79. Having performed a comprehensive review of the program management suite of tools during its working session, the Council will now discuss lessons learned and potential suggestions for the next review at the ICANN80 working session. 4.1 - Introduction of Topic (Greg DiBiase, GNSO Chair) 4.2 - Council Discussion 4.3 - Next Steps *Item 5: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Council Engagement with PDP Working Group Chairs (15 minutes)* During the Council?s 2023 Strategic Planning Session, the Council agreed that updates from PDP Working Group Chairs and Council liaisons should be more purpose-driven. In discussing this, GNSO Support Staff provided background information on the GNSO Policy Webinar. Specifically, the webinars began in 2018 and were designed to provide the Council with an opportunity to directly engage with PDP chairs regarding the progress of their working groups. This engagement previously took place at ICANN meetings during GNSO working sessions; however, when the ICANN meeting schedule was shortened, these interactions were moved to a webinar format in an effort to allow the engagement to continue. After receiving this background information, some Councilors noted that if the purpose is for the Council to hear frank updates from Working Group Chairs, the webinar should be for Councilors rather than a larger community update. Additionally, Councilors reviewed the list of questions provided to Working Group Chairs in an effort to better understand Working Group progress and potential challenges (if any). Councilors attended the webinar, in its updated form, prior to ICANN79. Here, the Council will discuss if the updates to the webinar format helped make the interactions more purpose driven or if further updates may be needed. 5.1 - Introduction of Topic (Nacho Amadoz, Council Vice-Chair) 5.2 - Council Discussion 5.3 - Next Steps *Item 6: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Update on Contracted Party House Abuse Subgroup Meetings with the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (15 minutes)* In February 2022, the GNSO Council formed a small team of interested Council members to consider what policy efforts, if any, the GNSO Council should consider undertaking to support the efforts already underway in the different parts of the community to tackle DNS abuse. The DNS Abuse Small Team preliminarily concluded that there is not enough information available to warrant further policy work at this time. Following the update from the DNS Abuse Small Team, Council representatives from the Registrar Stakeholder Group commented on the productive dialogue between Contracted Parties and the ICANN Community with respect to DNS Abuse and committed to continuing the dialogue with interested groups. To that end, on 23 January 2024, the Registrar Stakeholder Group and the Registries Stakeholder Group DNS Abuse Subgroups met with the Non-Commercial Stakeholder group as the first in a planned series of outreach sessions to the ICANN Community regarding pain points with respect to DNS Abuse. The discussion touched on potential recommendations for solutions and potential future work. Here, the Council will receive an update on this meeting and subsequent discussions with other groups. 6.1 - Introduction of Topic (Chris Disspain, Co-Chair of DNS Abuse Subgroup) 6.2 - Council Discussion 6.3 - Next Steps *Item 7: COUNCIL DISCUSSION - Response to Update from ICANN org Implementation Update and interaction with ICANN Board (25 minutes) * During the Council?s Working Session, ICANN org provided an overview of the implementation status of the projects that are currently in implementation. These include: - Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Implementation (PPSAI) - Preventative and Curative Rights Protections for Intergovernmental Organizations (IGOs)/International Non-Governmental Organizations (INGOs) - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP In addition, during Prep Week, the ICANN Board held a community engagement session where a question was posed that is relevant to the GNSO Council: how do we handle situations where it becomes clear that community-developed gTLD policies adopted by the Board are superseded by subsequent events or are otherwise not able to, or can no longer, resolve the problems they were designed to address Here, the Council will have an opportunity to discuss the update from ICANN org and ICANN Board engagement session to determine next steps, if any. 7.1 - Introduction of Topic (Nacho Amadoz, Council Vice-Chair) 7.2 - Council Discussion 7.3 - Next Steps *Item 8: Selection and Timeline of Next GNSO Liaison to the Governmental Advisory Committee (10 minutes)* The role of GNSO Liaison to the Governmental Advisory Committee (?GAC?) was first piloted in FY15-16 (1 July 2014 to 30 June 2016) as part of a broader initiative of the GAC-GNSO Consultation Group to facilitate early engagement of the GAC in GNSO policy development activities. Due to the success of the pilot, the GNSO Liaison to the GAC is now a permanent role and an integral part of communications between the GAC and GNSO. The Liaison is primarily responsible for providing timely updates to the GAC on GNSO policy development activities in order to complement the existing notification processes as well as answering questions in relation to these (GNSO) activities that GAC members may have. Furthermore, the Liaison will be responsible for providing the GNSO Council with regular updates on progress, including on GAC activities, specifically in so far as these relate to issues of interest to the GNSO. The objective of the liaison mechanism, in combination with other mechanisms and early engagement tools, is to facilitate effective early engagement of the GAC as well as generally assist with flow of information between the GAC and the GNSO. In addition to these engagement tools, regular coordination calls are to be scheduled between the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and the GAC Leadership/GAC Support Staff to ascertain that all the relevant information has been received by the GAC and progress is being made, following which a regular status update is provided by the Liaison to the GNSO Council. Here, the Council will receive an update on the process for selecting a liaison and the associated timeline for doing so. 8.1 - Introduction of Topic (Jeffrey Neuman, GNSO Liaison to the GAC) 8.2 - Council Discussion 8.3 - Next Steps *Item 9: ANY OTHER BUSINESS (25 minutes)* 9.1 - GNSO Chair Election Timeline Announcement 9.2 - Updated Small Team Guidelines 9.3 - Standing Predictability Implementation Review Team (?SPIRT?) Charter Drafting Team Update 9.4 - Open Mic _______________________________ Appendix 1: GNSO Council Voting Thresholds (ICANN Bylaws, Article 11, Section 11.3(i)) See https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article11. 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URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Feb 28 08:47:46 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 07:47:46 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: FINAL REMINDER_Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 In-Reply-To: <524C218F-6E08-4AF0-AFD9-80EE2D11A99A@icann.org> References: <524C218F-6E08-4AF0-AFD9-80EE2D11A99A@icann.org> Message-ID: -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: FINAL REMINDER_Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 18:45:14 +0000 From: Saewon Lee To: Terri Agnew , julf at julf.com , jumaropi at yahoo.com , benakin at gmail.com , chair at rysg.info , sdemetriou at verisign.com , aheineman at godaddy.com , mcole at perkinscoie.com , lschulman at inta.org , John McElwaine , philippe.fouquart at orange.com CC: Zoe Bonython , Sue Schuler , Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon , Julie Hedlund , Caitlin Tubergen , Berry Cobb , gnso-chairs at icann.org , gnso-ccoici at icann.org Dear SG/C Chairs, This is a Final Reminder that *_the proposed due date for the?CCOICI survey is Tuesday, 5 March 2024_*. We kindly request each SG/C to discuss each survey question as a group /_(word and pdf formats attached again for your convenience; also posted on wiki) _/ and submit one survey response per SG/C into the survey link . We would like to encourage members to use the ICANN79 Meeting in San Juan as a wrap-up and submission of the responses. We look forward to your kind cooperation and for those travelling, safe travels to San Juan! Kind regards, CCOICI Team on behalf of the GNSO Council *From: *Saewon Lee *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:04?AM *To: *Terri Agnew , "julf at julf.com" , "jumaropi at yahoo.com" , "benakin at gmail.com" , "chair at rysg.info" , "sdemetriou at verisign.com" , "aheineman at godaddy.com" , "mcole at perkinscoie.com" , "lschulman at inta.org" , John McElwaine , "philippe.fouquart at orange.com" *Cc: *Zoe Bonython , Sue Schuler , Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon , Julie Hedlund , Caitlin Tubergen , Berry Cobb , "gnso-chairs at icann.org" , "gnso-ccoici at icann.org" *Subject: *REMINDER: Re: Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 Dear SG/C Chairs, We hope the ICANN79 Prep Week is going smoothly for you all! Please be reminded that *_the proposed due date for the CCOICI survey is Tuesday, 5 March 2024_*. We kindly request each SG/C to discuss each survey question as a group and submit one survey response per SG/C. We would like to encourage members to start the discussions in February (if not yet started) and use the ICANN79 Meeting in San Juan as a wrap-up and submission of the responses. Kindly be informed that this survey in pdf format has also been posted on wiki. We look forward to your kind cooperation and feedback. Thank you. Kind regards, CCOICI Team on behalf of the GNSO Council *From: *Terri Agnew *Date: *Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 12:26?PM *To: *"julf at julf.com" , "jumaropi at yahoo.com" , "benakin at gmail.com" , "chair at rysg.info" , "sdemetriou at verisign.com" , "aheineman at godaddy.com" , "mcole at perkinscoie.com" , "lschulman at inta.org" , John McElwaine , "philippe.fouquart at orange.com" *Cc: *Zoe Bonython , Sue Schuler , Brenda Brewer , Andrea Glandon , Julie Hedlund , Caitlin Tubergen , Berry Cobb , Saewon Lee , "gnso-chairs at icann.org" *Subject: *Response Requested | Evaluation of the CCOICI Pilot | Due by 05 March 2024 Dear SG/C Chairs, We hope this email finds you well. Pursuant to the CCOICI Framework (29 June 2021) , the GNSO Council created the Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous Improvement (CCOICI) as the first step of a pilot to allow for a more limited rollout of the GNSO Framework, rather than an immediate implementation of the whole Framework, should the Council and GNSO community decide that it is worthwhile to continue. The objective of the CCOICI was to create a framework that allows for the continuous scoping and execution of projects that are focused on GNSO?s structural, procedural, and process improvements. Please refer to the Charter for further details. Subsequently, the CCOICI worked on and delivered recommendations to the GNSO Council on three topics: 1) GNSO Working Group Self-Assessment Requirements; 2) GNSO Statement of Interest (SOI) Requirements; and 3) Assessment of Accountability Work Stream 2 implementation status and ranking of recommendations to help inform the prioritization by the Community Coordination Group. The CCOICI handled the first two topics directly while launching a Task Force (TF) to review and provide recommendations on GNSO SOI Requirements. Regarding CCOICI structure and the handling of these three tasks, and in consideration of the efficiency of the structure and mechanism, the CCOICI would like to conduct a satisfaction survey of each SG/C to evaluate if the Council and GNSO community see value in continuing the use of the CCOICI Framework. The results of this survey would be public and used to support the continuous improvement program as well as input for the Holistic Review, determining whether the objective and scope of the Framework was clear and appropriate, if the Framework should continue and if so, how it could be improved. If the survey results note a significant issue, this shall be the trigger to initiate appropriate measures to deal with any such issues. The proposed due date for this survey is Tuesday, 5 March 2024. We kindly request each SG/C to discuss each survey question as a group and submit one survey response per SG/C. We would like to encourage members to start the discussions in February and use the ICANN79 Meeting in San Juan as a wrap-up and submission of the responses. Herewith attached are the survey questions in a document format for your reference. Kindly enter each SG/C's single, consolidated response into the survey link for submission. We look forward to your kind cooperation and feedback. 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Name: SurveyMonkey_CCOICI_Questions in WORD format_31-Jan-2024.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 21528 bytes Desc: not available URL: From julf at Julf.com Wed Feb 28 19:22:09 2024 From: julf at Julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:22:09 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: NCPH Work Session agenda In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <033e94d1-8499-4d1a-96c8-d569542b7c57@Julf.com> -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: NCPH Work Session agenda Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:02:34 +0000 From: philippe.fouquart at orange.com To: Johan Helsingius CC: Wendy Profit via Csg-excomm Hi Julf, Hope this finds you well. The CSG is looking forward to our ICANN79 meeting with the NCSG on Tuesday. Here?s a list of agenda items that we offer for your consideration, suggestions are obviously welcome: 1. Review on action items from ICANN78 1. Team 14 update 2. Establish a mailing list for NCPH and decide who should be on it 3. Establish (or at least further populate) a wiki for the NCPH 4. Update of the intersessional meeting 2. Common points of view on measurement of the impact of the contract amendments on DNS abuse, including what would be helpful metrics and where they would come from.? For example, we don?t want to rely solely on ICANN?s self-reporting on abuse stats but need authoritative third-party input. 3. WSIS+20: any particular actions planned from our respective SGs? Anything the House should do collectively? Regards, Philippe, on behalf of the CSG Orange Restricted Orange Restricted ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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