[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [gnso-chairs] GNSO/GAC dialogue on closed generics: selection of GNSO participants

Wed Sep 7 17:01:43 EEST 2022

Hi Tomslin and All,

I would like to recommend that I be appointed with George Sadowsky as an 
unofficial alternate. George as you know as an ICANN Board member for 
many years. But few know that before that he was a founding member of 
NCUC (NCSG would not be created for about decade after).  In 1999, 
George was with New York University as IT director and joined us in 
founding NCUC and attending early meetings. We were his initial link to 
ICANN!

He has now applied to join NCSG.  Some Board members leave ICANN 
forever, but those who remain, tend to go back to the groups they came 
from. I hope we will approve his membership. And then I hope we can 
allow him to work with me on the Closed Generics issues. He is an expert 
on this issue from his time on the Board and knows how difficult and 
complicated it is.  He helped make sure we heard from noncommercial 
organizations around the world before passing the first ban on Closed 
Generics. Later, when the Subsequent Procedures Working Group was 
looking closely at this issue, George (at my invitation) joined the 
Working Group to again share the complexities and potential problems of 
Closed Generics from his perspective (which include his more recent 
experience with many United Nations organizations).

While technically the job is supposed to be for one person, it is too 
big for one volunteer (note: some attorneys will be paid by their 
clients and law firms to participate fully in this new group and there 
is a reason for that). ALAC plans to appoint a primary person and a 
backup person if the primary person cannot attend a meeting or 
discussion.  Since I will be on book tour with my new book about the 
ENIAC Programmers, */Proving Ground, /*I think it would be good idea for 
us to have a similar arrangement. We don't want to miss a single Closed 
Generic meeting!

Best and tx,

Kathy

On 9/6/2022 8:41 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> FYI, PC.
>
> I am still waiting on guidance from Bruna but I just wanted to bring 
> to your attention this statement in the meantime " /*This group would 
> ideally have a first informal meeting during ICANN 75, so we would 
> appreciate if you would let us know the name of your representative 
> ideally by September 19^th */."
> It means we have only 2 weeks to name a representative for this. I 
> don't think it'll be a problem since Kathy Kleinman had indicated 
> interest already and was granted funding to KL based on that interest 
> but I thought I'd flag the urgency to the whole committee.
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *philippe.fouquart--- via Gnso-chairs* <gnso-chairs at icann.org>
> Date: Fri, 2 Sept 2022 at 22:01
> Subject: [gnso-chairs] GNSO/GAC dialogue on closed generics: selection 
> of GNSO participants
> To: mason.cole at appdetex.com <mason.cole at appdetex.com>, 
> wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, 
> lschulman at inta.org <lschulman at inta.org>, bruna.mrtns at gmail.com 
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>, plommer at gmail.com <plommer at gmail.com>, 
> benakin at gmail.com <benakin at gmail.com>, aheineman at godaddy.com 
> <aheineman at godaddy.com>, sdemetriou at verisign.com 
> <sdemetriou at verisign.com>, chair at rysg.info <chair at rysg.info>, 
> secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>, 
> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>, gnso-chairs at icann.org 
> <gnso-chairs at icann.org>, council at gnso icann. org <council at gnso.icann.org>
>
>
> Dear SG/C leaders,
>
> Hope this email finds you all well.
>
> As you know, following an invitation from the Board, the GNSO and the 
> GAC will enter into a dialogue to “formulate a workable framework to 
> identify and handle closed generic applications for the immediate next 
> round of new gTLDs”, and in this dialogue we will be joined by ALAC.
>
> Council leadership would like to invite each Stakeholder Group to 
> select a representative for this dialogue. This group is would ideally 
> have a first informal meeting during ICANN 75, so we would appreciate 
> if you would let us know the name of your representative ideally by 
> September 19^th .
>
> The attached document provides the guidance for this appointment.
>
> I would finally like to draw your attention to the spirit of 
> involvement in this effort:
>
>   * the framework discussion will focus on options other than the two
>     endpoint positions (i.e. no closed generics at all; closed
>     generics without restrictions) as per the Board’s Proposed
>     Parameters for Dialogue
>   * the participants will "contribute as independent individuals,
>     bringing their individual experiences and expertise, and not serve
>     as representatives of their respective community organization(s).
>     The participants must commit to focusing on successfully
>     developing a framework for closed generics, even if the end
>     product is inconsistent with the goals or priorities of the
>     participant or the participant's SO/AC/SG/C.” (Council small team
>     report)
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you, and wishing you all safe travels 
> to KL.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Philippe
>
> Board/GNSO correspondence:
>
>   * 6 Mar 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Manal Ismail and
>     Philippe Fouquart
>     <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-ismail-fouquart-06mar22-en.pdf> –
>     including the framing paper
>   * 27 April 2022 Letter from Philippe Fouquart to Maarten Botterman
>     <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/fouquart-to-botterman-27apr22-en.pdf>
>   * 19 May 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart
>     <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-fouquart-19may22-en.pdf>
>   * 29 Jun 2022 Letter from Philippe Fouquart to Maarten Botterman and
>     Manal Ismail
>     <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/fouquart-to-botterman-ismail-29jun22-en.pdf>
>   * 25 Jul 2022 Letter from Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart and
>     Manal Ismail
>     <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/botterman-to-fouquart-ismail-25jul22-en.pdf>
>
> Council small team report: 
> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2022/draft/draft-closed-generics-small-team-report-24jun22-en.pdf 
>
>
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