From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 00:41:08 2021 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 07:41:08 +1000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Request for volunteers - Accuracy Scoping Team Message-ID: Dear members, As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the request of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional data and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. 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It appears immediately before the last paragraph. Manju and I remain convinced that we need to make this statement. She is hopefully asleep at this moment, being 12 hours out of sync with EST.? It reflects the arguments we have been pursuing for the last number of months, nothing new here....but it will be forgotten if we don't restate it, and we all know that comments on the final report are not going to be read as much as these minority statements. I am including Kathy and Bruna on this thread as I know Kathy has been following the arguments recently rather closely. cheers Steph On 2021-09-10 12:02 p.m., Stephanie E Perrin wrote: > > Actually, the GAC minority statement makes my point rather > eloquently.? We did not include a comment on the stupidity of > providing precision about the data elements of a field that is not > mandatory.....see the following > > Recommendation #1 Fields to Facilitate Differentiation between Legal > and Natural Person Registration Data > The GAC urged for the creation and use of data fields to flag legal > registrants and the presence or absence of personal > information in their data sets. Such flagging mechanisms would provide > a necessary first step for differentiation. > Recommendation 1 includes several obligations with regard to the > creation of fields to facilitate differentiation > between legal and natural person registration data and identify > whether that registration data contains personal or > non-personal data. In addition to creating these fields, there are > further obligations: > ?for ICANN to coordinate the technical community, for example the RDAP > WG, to develop any necessary > standards associated with such field(s); > ?for the SSAD, consistent with the EPDP Phase 2 recommendations, to > support the fields in order to facilitate > integration between SSAD and the Contracted Parties? systems; and > ?for the fields to support specific values related to the status of > legal persons and the presence or absence of > personal data. > The GAC especially values the precision of this Recommendation in > specifying precisely what values should be > included in these fields. The GAC though believes that Recommendation > 1 would be more effective in creating the > necessary infrastructure for differentiation if it: > *1.****required contracted parties to not just create but also > to****use****these fields;** > **2.****provided specific timelines for making these fields operable; > and** > **3.****ensured that the fields will operate within the current and > contemplated systems for data collection and** > **disclosure.* > For clarity, the GAC thinks that requiring contracted parties to > populate these fields for all future registrations, > irrespective of whether the contracted parties elect to differentiate > in their treatment of data from natural versus > legal entities, is efficient and in the public interest because it > would provide a basis to flag and identify data that may > be the subject of future expedited SS > > > Going to go back in and add a comment on this stupidity that flies in > the face of database construction logic > > cheers Steph > > On 2021-09-10 11:27 a.m., Mueller, Milton L wrote: >> >> > Our arguments are not clearly presented in the final report. >> >> So? What matters in the final report is the policy conclusions, not >> the arguments of all sides. >> >> I invite you to write a guest blog for IGP covering the process, but >> that's public commentary, which should never be confused with an >> ICANN policy document. ? >> >> >jockeying tecently about what goes in the report and what has to be >> in minority statements has >> > been intense and ludicrous. >> >> indeed. >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: NCSG Minority Statement on the final reportv5.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 24558 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Fri Sep 10 20:04:48 2021 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie E Perrin) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 13:04:48 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Dissent on the EPDP final report In-Reply-To: <7f503937-d7cb-fa9c-0452-f687c954e686@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <4b5efd4c-a000-fb45-0d60-128ded32c0bd@mail.utoronto.ca> <7f503937-d7cb-fa9c-0452-f687c954e686@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: On 2021-09-10 12:59 p.m., Stephanie E Perrin wrote: > > So I have added the following statement to the document: > > > " > > We note that those parties who pushed the hardest for making this > distinction between legal and natural persons also pushed hard for a > field or fields to input the data.Given that the recommendation will > remain that it is a voluntary field, and it is up to the contracted > parties, whose business models vary enormously, how they use the > field(s), we do not believe that recommendations concerning the > precision of the field are useful.If ICANN undertakes to instruct the > IETF, for instance, how to standardize the field, how is the > distinction and the collection and disclosure of the relevant data > necessary to make that distinction still voluntary?This is a matter to > be left to private sector best practice. > > > It appears immediately before the last paragraph. > Manju and I remain convinced that we need to make this statement. She > is hopefully asleep at this moment, being 12 hours out of sync with > EST.? It reflects the arguments we have been pursuing for the last > number of months, nothing new here....but it will be forgotten if we > don't restate it, and we all know that comments on the final report > are not going to be read as much as these minority statements. > I am including Kathy and Bruna on this thread as I know Kathy has been > following the arguments recently rather closely. > > cheers Steph > > > On 2021-09-10 12:02 p.m., Stephanie E Perrin wrote: >> >> Actually, the GAC minority statement makes my point rather >> eloquently.? We did not include a comment on the stupidity of >> providing precision about the data elements of a field that is not >> mandatory.....see the following >> >> Recommendation #1 Fields to Facilitate Differentiation between Legal >> and Natural Person Registration Data >> The GAC urged for the creation and use of data fields to flag legal >> registrants and the presence or absence of personal >> information in their data sets. Such flagging mechanisms would >> provide a necessary first step for differentiation. >> Recommendation 1 includes several obligations with regard to the >> creation of fields to facilitate differentiation >> between legal and natural person registration data and identify >> whether that registration data contains personal or >> non-personal data. In addition to creating these fields, there are >> further obligations: >> ?for ICANN to coordinate the technical community, for example the >> RDAP WG, to develop any necessary >> standards associated with such field(s); >> ?for the SSAD, consistent with the EPDP Phase 2 recommendations, to >> support the fields in order to facilitate >> integration between SSAD and the Contracted Parties? systems; and >> ?for the fields to support specific values related to the status of >> legal persons and the presence or absence of >> personal data. >> The GAC especially values the precision of this Recommendation in >> specifying precisely what values should be >> included in these fields. The GAC though believes that Recommendation >> 1 would be more effective in creating the >> necessary infrastructure for differentiation if it: >> *1.****required contracted parties to not just create but also >> to****use****these fields;** >> **2.****provided specific timelines for making these fields operable; >> and** >> **3.****ensured that the fields will operate within the current and >> contemplated systems for data collection and** >> **disclosure.* >> For clarity, the GAC thinks that requiring contracted parties to >> populate these fields for all future registrations, >> irrespective of whether the contracted parties elect to differentiate >> in their treatment of data from natural versus >> legal entities, is efficient and in the public interest because it >> would provide a basis to flag and identify data that may >> be the subject of future expedited SS >> >> >> Going to go back in and add a comment on this stupidity that flies in >> the face of database construction logic >> >> cheers Steph >> >> On 2021-09-10 11:27 a.m., Mueller, Milton L wrote: >>> >>> > Our arguments are not clearly presented in the final report. >>> >>> So? What matters in the final report is the policy conclusions, not >>> the arguments of all sides. >>> >>> I invite you to write a guest blog for IGP covering the process, but >>> that's public commentary, which should never be confused with an >>> ICANN policy document. ? >>> >>> >jockeying tecently about what goes in the report and what has to be >>> in minority statements has >>> > been intense and ludicrous. >>> >>> indeed. >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Tomslin On Wed., 8 Sep. 2021, 07:41 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, wrote: > Dear members, > > As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a > scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data > accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to > ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; > assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the request > of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional data > and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. > > Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to > appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a > mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality > expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. > > Members interested in volunteering for this scoping team should please > send their expression of interest to the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee > (mesumbeslin at gmail.com), copy (bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) and ( > maryam.bakoshi at icann.org) by Tuesday 21 September. > > Regards, > Tomslin > @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Sun Sep 12 01:25:43 2021 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 08:25:43 +1000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Minority report on the EPDP phase 2a final report In-Reply-To: References: <984d1a41-027b-313b-8ca5-8cc68f37a828@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Greetings members. Hi Farzaneh, thanks for raising this objection and concerns. I agree this was a bit too last minute for my liking as well, as it didn't allow us room to follow procedures properly and to use the proper channels for it. The discussions of the statement on the mailing-list for example happened in the middle of the night my time. The Policy Committee procedures recommend a 24 hour minimum timeframe to evaluate consensus if it is an urgent statement to be issued outside an ICANN physical Meeting. Like the PC procedures recommend, for an urgent statement, at least 24 hours from the time the statement is shared with both members and the PC, should have been given. When the PC was informed of the coming statement, I informed our councilors and group chair that I was happy with the statement as long as members had a chance to comment on it and the EPDP members supported the statement. However, it would be difficult to consider the 'chance to comment' as inclusive if it is less than 24 hours, given the timezone differences. Based on this, I don't think the statement should have been submitted. Having said that, *I do not support withdrawing the statement*. I don't believe we should fix the issue by making a bigger mess, especially since the drafters did try to address comments to the statement, albeit the window being short. We should however learn from this procedural mistake and strive to make our comment and statement process inclusive. If it is an urgent statement, a 24 hour window must still be given to members and the PC. Future statements should follow all applicable procedures. Best regards, Tomslin PC Chair On Sun., 12 Sep. 2021, 03:20 farzaneh badii, wrote: > Silence is never ever consent. In any setting. It might be interpreted as > no objection but if given people ample time. you were late. I have never > seen during my time at NCSG that someone doesn?t even receive a single ok > on a statement from the nondrafters, submits the draft the night of the > deadline and with no consultation with the chair submit it as an NCSG > statement. We even have processes at NCUC to address these urgent > statements and it?s never done like that. > > These years even NCSG last minute statements even had acceptable approval > of the PC. Once some years ago when NCSG PC was silent the comment was > submitted by NCUC EC because they were more vocal. > > This statement is of little importance but I believe you shouldn?t have > submitted it without minimal consultation with the PC and given them some > days. I raise this objection solely that these events wont be repeated next > time. And I leave it to PC to decide if they want to take action. > > On Saturday, September 11, 2021, Stephanie E Perrin < > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > >> There is a short thread in the PC archives, starting here: >> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/2021-September/004093.html >> >> The datestamp is odd, because I sent it at 11.26 EST on Thursday. >> However, the PC had been warned it was coming at 12:16 pm Thursday. >> >> I appreciate your concern for procedure, but as an active participant in >> policy committee meetings for the last 7 years, I seem to recall plenty of >> last minute statement approvals. I briefed the PC on what was going on at >> the EPDP at the last meeting. SIlence is read as consent. Milton raised >> his objections, and I attempted to provide language that would cover his >> concerns. However, if you wish to have the statement withdrawn, by all >> means contact the PC chair, Tomslin. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Stephanie Perrin >> >> >> On 2021-09-11 10:17 a.m., farzaneh badii wrote: >> >> You should have submitted it in your own capacity. This is not an NCSG >> statement unless the PC approves it. >> >> Farzaneh >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 7:52 PM Stephanie E Perrin < >> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >> >>> As I said to the policy committee, I am sorry that this is so late. Our >>> last (extra) meeting was on Thursday, and it was really only in the last >>> week that it became apparent that if we wanted our arguments on the record, >>> we would need to put in a statement. So yes I did send the first draft to >>> the policy committee, and no one has commented from that group. We then >>> immediately sent it to the list. >>> >>> WE have been making the argument about gig workers for several weeks >>> now. These folks would normally be employees, but they are forced into >>> contractor roles, largely [in my personal opinion] to avoid the >>> employer/employee relationship and all the protections that years of labour >>> law have brought to workers. I have recognized the need to distance >>> ourselves from them as our constituents....they cannot be, if they are >>> contractors working in a commercial sense, although there are some that >>> might not be excluded from our potential membership....it depends. >>> Nevertheless, they may have privacy rights, and this is what the discussion >>> is about. >>> >>> WHen we were dealing with the question of who was entitled to privacy >>> proxy services, this issue also surfaced, along with the competitive >>> issues. Big corporations often use lawyers to register their domains, for >>> a number of reasons, with or without the use of proxy services. Small >>> operations, whether commercial or not, do not do this for many reasons, >>> cost being one. The whole issue of disclosure of data, personal or not, is >>> a serious competition issue that never seems to arise in the discussion. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Stephanie Perrin >>> On 2021-09-10 7:28 p.m., farzaneh badii wrote: >>> >>> Stephanie >>> >>> You gave us only a couple of hours to look at this and i hope the >>> Policy Committee was consulted. Anyhow I think you should (if you really >>> wanna send this statement) delete this paragraph it is absolutely unrelated >>> to the core of the issue: >>> >>> We have also spoken for the rights of gig workers, sole contractors, and >>> independent artists, sales and tradespeople, even though we are >>> explicitly chartered to represent the non-commercial stakeholders. >>> Nobody else is representing these folks, whose numbers are growing >>> apace as employment patterns morph with the global Internet economy. This >>> gap speaks tellingly of the emphasis on big business, and the lack of focus >>> on competitive issues which are exacerbated by DNS policy. We hope >>> that the contracted parties will address the rights of these individuals, >>> and be careful to ensure that they are treated fairly and with due >>> respect for privacy norms when this policy is implemented. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, September 10, 2021, Stephanie E Perrin < >>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> OK folks, Manju and I like the new draft, I put a line or two in to >>>> acknowledge Milton's point (with which I agree) and off it goes before the >>>> deadline hits. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your participation, it is always much appreciated! >>>> >>>> Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen >>>> On 2021-09-10 4:21 p.m., Stephanie E Perrin wrote: >>>> >>>> I just edited the Google doc to reflect some of the comments. We need >>>> to wrap this up guys. >>>> >>>> cheers Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2021-09-10 9:51 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> First of all, thanks @Stephanie Perrin >>>> and @??? Manju Chen >>>> for the draft. Although I know we are on a tight >>>> deadline i took the liberty of transforming the word doc into a google docs >>>> to facilitate the commenting process - if theres any. >>>> >>>> Should we set a deadline for comments ? >>>> >>>> link is here: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QJO4R0PNUTj3MDYMbGmjXpAbjTxHzfAl/edit >>>> >>>> best, >>>> Bruna >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:27 AM Stephanie E Perrin < >>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> Man-ju Chen and I have been working on a proposed minority statement >>>>> for >>>>> the final report of the EPDP phase 2a group. We have met over the >>>>> last >>>>> 9 months, the final meeting was last Thursday, and since it appears >>>>> that >>>>> most SGs and ACs are drafting minority statements to reinforce their >>>>> views, we have crafted a quick two page brief that reiterates many of >>>>> the points we have been trying to make, that are not particularly >>>>> visible in the final report. We can of course comment publicly, but >>>>> that is not as visible. >>>>> >>>>> We are on deadline for tomorrow, I do apologize for the last minute >>>>> notice but work has been quite hectic on this committee. Your comments >>>>> are welcome. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>>> >>>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research >>>> >>>> >>>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >>>> >>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >>>> >>>> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >>>> bruna.martinsantos >>>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Farzaneh >>> >>> > > -- > Farzaneh > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compsoftnet at gmail.com Sun Sep 12 12:31:59 2021 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 10:31:59 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Minority report on the EPDP phase 2a final report In-Reply-To: References: <984d1a41-027b-313b-8ca5-8cc68f37a828@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Well said Tomslin. Regards. On Sat, 11 Sep. 2021, 11:26 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, wrote: > Greetings members. > > Hi Farzaneh, thanks for raising this objection and concerns. I agree this > was a bit too last minute for my liking as well, as it didn't allow us room > to follow procedures properly and to use the proper channels for it. The > discussions of the statement on the mailing-list for example happened in > the middle of the night my time. The Policy Committee procedures recommend > a 24 hour minimum timeframe to evaluate consensus if it is an urgent > statement to be issued outside an ICANN physical Meeting. > > Like the PC procedures recommend, for an urgent statement, at least 24 > hours from the time the statement is shared with both members and the PC, > should have been given. When the PC was informed of the coming statement, I > informed our councilors and group chair that I was happy with the statement > as long as members had a chance to comment on it and the EPDP members > supported the statement. However, it would be difficult to consider the > 'chance to comment' as inclusive if it is less than 24 hours, given the > timezone differences. Based on this, I don't think the statement should > have been submitted. > > Having said that, *I do not support withdrawing the statement*. I don't > believe we should fix the issue by making a bigger mess, especially since > the drafters did try to address comments to the statement, albeit the > window being short. > > We should however learn from this procedural mistake and strive to make > our comment and statement process inclusive. If it is an urgent statement, > a 24 hour window must still be given to members and the PC. Future > statements should follow all applicable procedures. > > Best regards, > Tomslin > PC Chair > > On Sun., 12 Sep. 2021, 03:20 farzaneh badii, > wrote: > >> Silence is never ever consent. In any setting. It might be interpreted as >> no objection but if given people ample time. you were late. I have never >> seen during my time at NCSG that someone doesn?t even receive a single ok >> on a statement from the nondrafters, submits the draft the night of the >> deadline and with no consultation with the chair submit it as an NCSG >> statement. We even have processes at NCUC to address these urgent >> statements and it?s never done like that. >> >> These years even NCSG last minute statements even had acceptable >> approval of the PC. Once some years ago when NCSG PC was silent the comment >> was submitted by NCUC EC because they were more vocal. >> >> This statement is of little importance but I believe you shouldn?t have >> submitted it without minimal consultation with the PC and given them some >> days. I raise this objection solely that these events wont be repeated next >> time. And I leave it to PC to decide if they want to take action. >> >> On Saturday, September 11, 2021, Stephanie E Perrin < >> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >> >>> There is a short thread in the PC archives, starting here: >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/2021-September/004093.html >>> >>> The datestamp is odd, because I sent it at 11.26 EST on Thursday. >>> However, the PC had been warned it was coming at 12:16 pm Thursday. >>> >>> I appreciate your concern for procedure, but as an active participant in >>> policy committee meetings for the last 7 years, I seem to recall plenty of >>> last minute statement approvals. I briefed the PC on what was going on at >>> the EPDP at the last meeting. SIlence is read as consent. Milton raised >>> his objections, and I attempted to provide language that would cover his >>> concerns. However, if you wish to have the statement withdrawn, by all >>> means contact the PC chair, Tomslin. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Stephanie Perrin >>> >>> >>> On 2021-09-11 10:17 a.m., farzaneh badii wrote: >>> >>> You should have submitted it in your own capacity. This is not an NCSG >>> statement unless the PC approves it. >>> >>> Farzaneh >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 7:52 PM Stephanie E Perrin < >>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> As I said to the policy committee, I am sorry that this is so late. >>>> Our last (extra) meeting was on Thursday, and it was really only in the >>>> last week that it became apparent that if we wanted our arguments on the >>>> record, we would need to put in a statement. So yes I did send the first >>>> draft to the policy committee, and no one has commented from that group. >>>> We then immediately sent it to the list. >>>> >>>> WE have been making the argument about gig workers for several weeks >>>> now. These folks would normally be employees, but they are forced into >>>> contractor roles, largely [in my personal opinion] to avoid the >>>> employer/employee relationship and all the protections that years of labour >>>> law have brought to workers. I have recognized the need to distance >>>> ourselves from them as our constituents....they cannot be, if they are >>>> contractors working in a commercial sense, although there are some that >>>> might not be excluded from our potential membership....it depends. >>>> Nevertheless, they may have privacy rights, and this is what the discussion >>>> is about. >>>> >>>> WHen we were dealing with the question of who was entitled to privacy >>>> proxy services, this issue also surfaced, along with the competitive >>>> issues. Big corporations often use lawyers to register their domains, for >>>> a number of reasons, with or without the use of proxy services. Small >>>> operations, whether commercial or not, do not do this for many reasons, >>>> cost being one. The whole issue of disclosure of data, personal or not, is >>>> a serious competition issue that never seems to arise in the discussion. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>> On 2021-09-10 7:28 p.m., farzaneh badii wrote: >>>> >>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>> You gave us only a couple of hours to look at this and i hope the >>>> Policy Committee was consulted. Anyhow I think you should (if you really >>>> wanna send this statement) delete this paragraph it is absolutely unrelated >>>> to the core of the issue: >>>> >>>> We have also spoken for the rights of gig workers, sole contractors, >>>> and independent artists, sales and tradespeople, even though we are >>>> explicitly chartered to represent the non-commercial stakeholders. >>>> Nobody else is representing these folks, whose numbers are growing >>>> apace as employment patterns morph with the global Internet economy. This >>>> gap speaks tellingly of the emphasis on big business, and the lack of focus >>>> on competitive issues which are exacerbated by DNS policy. We hope >>>> that the contracted parties will address the rights of these individuals, >>>> and be careful to ensure that they are treated fairly and with due >>>> respect for privacy norms when this policy is implemented. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, September 10, 2021, Stephanie E Perrin < >>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK folks, Manju and I like the new draft, I put a line or two in to >>>>> acknowledge Milton's point (with which I agree) and off it goes before the >>>>> deadline hits. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your participation, it is always much appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen >>>>> On 2021-09-10 4:21 p.m., Stephanie E Perrin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just edited the Google doc to reflect some of the comments. We need >>>>> to wrap this up guys. >>>>> >>>>> cheers Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2021-09-10 9:51 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> First of all, thanks @Stephanie Perrin >>>>> and @??? Manju Chen >>>>> for the draft. Although I know we are on a tight >>>>> deadline i took the liberty of transforming the word doc into a google docs >>>>> to facilitate the commenting process - if theres any. >>>>> >>>>> Should we set a deadline for comments ? >>>>> >>>>> link is here: >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QJO4R0PNUTj3MDYMbGmjXpAbjTxHzfAl/edit >>>>> >>>>> best, >>>>> Bruna >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:27 AM Stephanie E Perrin < >>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>>> >>>>>> Man-ju Chen and I have been working on a proposed minority statement >>>>>> for >>>>>> the final report of the EPDP phase 2a group. We have met over the >>>>>> last >>>>>> 9 months, the final meeting was last Thursday, and since it appears >>>>>> that >>>>>> most SGs and ACs are drafting minority statements to reinforce their >>>>>> views, we have crafted a quick two page brief that reiterates many of >>>>>> the points we have been trying to make, that are not particularly >>>>>> visible in the final report. We can of course comment publicly, but >>>>>> that is not as visible. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are on deadline for tomorrow, I do apologize for the last minute >>>>>> notice but work has been quite hectic on this committee. Your >>>>>> comments >>>>>> are welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >>>>> >>>>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >>>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >>>>> >>>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >>>>> bruna.martinsantos >>>>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Farzaneh >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Farzaneh >> >> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It'll be nice to have more than one volunteer, including new-commers who can use this as an opportunity to learn and be familiar with policy work. More information about the initial report can be found here : https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/initial-report-epdp-specific-curative-rights-protections-igos-14-09-2021 A draft Google doc for the comment can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AB2howYM7pjcJzJ34-_TNZsxXj3uj5UklYFkbyHxWyg/edit?usp=sharing You can find previous NCSG comments here: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2021 See below some best practices for the penholder: - Provide the first draft on the mailing list in by day 21 of the comment period - Try to resolve the comments throughout the duration of comment period - Make sure that the commenter has seen how comment has been resolved (contact them directly if necessary) Cheers, Tomslin @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See you then! > > > > Best, > > Brenda and Maryam > > > > *From: *Brenda Brewer > *Date: *Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:46 AM > *To: *NCSG List , "ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is" < > ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> > *Cc: *Maryam Bakoshi , Brenda Brewer < > brenda.brewer at icann.org> > *Subject: *NCSG Monthly Policy call | 20 September | 11:30 UTC > > > > Good day all, > > > > *Please join the NCSG Monthly Policy call on Monday, 20 September at 11:30 > UTC. *Additional time zone support here > > . 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Sorry for the inconvenience. > > Tomslin > @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > > > On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 06:10, Brenda Brewer > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> A kind reminder of next NCSG Monthly Policy call on Monday, 20 September >> at 11:30 UTC. Additional time zone support here >> . >> You may find the join details below and attached. See you then! >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Brenda and Maryam >> >> >> >> *From: *Brenda Brewer >> *Date: *Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:46 AM >> *To: *NCSG List , "ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is" >> >> *Cc: *Maryam Bakoshi , Brenda Brewer < >> brenda.brewer at icann.org> >> *Subject: *NCSG Monthly Policy call | 20 September | 11:30 UTC >> >> >> >> Good day all, >> >> >> >> *Please join the NCSG Monthly Policy call on Monday, 20 September at >> 11:30 UTC. *Additional time zone support here >> >> . 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Regards, Tomslin On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 07:41, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Dear members, > > As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a > scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data > accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to > ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; > assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the request > of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional data > and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. > > Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to > appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a > mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality > expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. > > Members interested in volunteering for this scoping team should please > send their expression of interest to the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee > (mesumbeslin at gmail.com), copy (bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) and ( > maryam.bakoshi at icann.org) by Tuesday 21 September. > > Regards, > Tomslin > @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen > @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Tanya On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 16:34, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Dear PC, > > As you are aware, we had a call out for volunteers for the Accuracy > Scoping team. > So far we have only *Manju Chen* and *Stephanie Perrin* who have shown > interest in volunteering for this. > > Since the date to inform staff of our volunteers has passed already > because we were still waiting for expressions of interest, I would like to > request your approval to forward the names of both volunteers as our > representatives. > > Please let me know if you have any objections please. > > Regards, > Tomslin > > > > > > > On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 07:41, Tomslin Samme-Nlar > wrote: > >> Dear members, >> >> As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a >> scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data >> accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to >> ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; >> assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the request >> of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional data >> and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. >> >> Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to >> appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a >> mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality >> expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. >> >> Members interested in volunteering for this scoping team should please >> send their expression of interest to the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee >> (mesumbeslin at gmail.com), copy (bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) and ( >> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org) by Tuesday 21 September. >> >> Regards, >> Tomslin >> @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen >> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would absolutely support putting these two names forward. > Cheers, > Tanya > > On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 16:34, Tomslin Samme-Nlar > wrote: > >> Dear PC, >> >> As you are aware, we had a call out for volunteers for the Accuracy >> Scoping team. >> So far we have only *Manju Chen* and *Stephanie Perrin* who have shown >> interest in volunteering for this. >> >> Since the date to inform staff of our volunteers has passed already >> because we were still waiting for expressions of interest, I would like to >> request your approval to forward the names of both volunteers as our >> representatives. >> >> Please let me know if you have any objections please. >> >> Regards, >> Tomslin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 07:41, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear members, >>> >>> As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a >>> scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data >>> accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to >>> ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; >>> assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the request >>> of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional data >>> and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. >>> >>> Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to >>> appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a >>> mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality >>> expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. >>> >>> Members interested in volunteering for this scoping team should please >>> send their expression of interest to the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee >>> (mesumbeslin at gmail.com), copy (bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) and ( >>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org) by Tuesday 21 September. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tomslin >>> @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen >>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would absolutely support putting these two names forward. >> Cheers, >> Tanya >> >> On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 16:34, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >> wrote: >> >>> Dear PC, >>> >>> As you are aware, we had a call out for volunteers for the Accuracy >>> Scoping team. >>> So far we have only *Manju Chen* and *Stephanie Perrin* who have shown >>> interest in volunteering for this. >>> >>> Since the date to inform staff of our volunteers has passed already >>> because we were still waiting for expressions of interest, I would like to >>> request your approval to forward the names of both volunteers as our >>> representatives. >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any objections please. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tomslin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 07:41, Tomslin Samme-Nlar >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear members, >>>> >>>> As some of you will recall, the GNSO council voted in July to a form a >>>> scoping team, tasked to address the effects of GDPR on Registration Data >>>> accuracy requirements and the Whois Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) and to >>>> ?facilitate community understanding of the issue; >>>> assist in scoping and defining the issue; gather support for the >>>> request of an Issue Report, and/or; serve as a means to gather additional >>>> data and/or information before a request [for an Issue Report] is submitted. >>>> >>>> Looking at the scoping team instructions (attached), we are allowed to >>>> appoint up to 2 representatives to the team and these reps should possess a >>>> mix of quantitative skills, privacy legislation acumen, data quality >>>> expertise, ICANN contract knowledge, and policy perspectives. >>>> >>>> Members interested in volunteering for this scoping team should please >>>> send their expression of interest to the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee >>>> (mesumbeslin at gmail.com), copy (bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) and ( >>>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org) by Tuesday 21 September. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Tomslin >>>> @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen >>>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Apologies for the inconveniences! best, -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com Tue Sep 28 12:31:12 2021 From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 11:31:12 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, I am indeed term limited. I would like to put Tomslin's name forward for the vice-chair. Cheers Tanya On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 11:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline for > confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO chair. > > And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich > we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward > as the NCPH candidate. > > I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was > also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize > some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG > name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we > putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. > > Apologies for the inconveniences! > > best, > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to put Tomslin's name forward for > the vice-chair. > Cheers > Tanya > > On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 11:27, Bruna Martins dos Santos < > bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline >> for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO >> chair. >> >> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich >> we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward >> as the NCPH candidate. >> >> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was >> also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize >> some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG >> name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we >> putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >> >> Apologies for the inconveniences! >> >> best, >> >> -- >> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >> >> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander >> von Humboldt Foundation >> >> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >> >> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >> >> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >> bruna.martinsantos >> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Congratulations on moving to Berlin! cheers Stephanie On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: > Dear all, > > I am writing?to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline > for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO > chair. > > And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from > Wolf-Ulrich we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name > was put forward as the NCPH candidate. > > I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I > was also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to > prioritize some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to > confirm an NCSG name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to > ask you who are we putting forward as I understand Tatiana is > term-limited. > > Apologies for the inconveniences! > > best, > > -- > */Bruna Martins dos Santos > /* > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | > Alexander von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair?| Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator?| Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins ?// Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org ?and > bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farell at benin2point0.org Wed Sep 29 13:01:06 2021 From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:01:06 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CE51530-510E-4B30-A050-3B4473BCFC8F@benin2point0.org> Dear all, I am definitively supportive of Tomslin. He is doing a great job, I hope he accepts that. @__f_f__ Best regards ____________________________________ Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir GNSO Councillor linkedin.com/in/farellf > On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin wrote: > > I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly something we ought to discuss. > > I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them on other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. Workload distribution is a priority. > > Congratulations on moving to Berlin! > > cheers Stephanie > > On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO chair. >> >> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward as the NCPH candidate. >> >> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >> >> Apologies for the inconveniences! >> >> best, >> >> -- >> Bruna Martins dos Santos >> >> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation >> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus? >> >> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos >> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 16:27:01 2021 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:27:01 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for early input to SO/AC/SG/Cs - IDNs EPDP In-Reply-To: <42A81F36-6034-4E1F-A6B4-82265F1373C7@icann.org> References: <81E80F5F-5207-42A7-875F-5418C851D968@icann.org> <10C3A5E7-C03D-42B9-A142-EB1B430B18A6@icann.org> <3796E2B1-5DAD-456E-A85D-229C8C7C5752@icann.org> <42A81F36-6034-4E1F-A6B4-82265F1373C7@icann.org> Message-ID: Hey all, here's something that might be of your interest. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Nathalie Peregrine Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 3:20 PM Subject: Request for early input to SO/AC/SG/Cs - IDNs EPDP To: Bruna Martins dos Santos Cc: Maryam Bakoshi , Brenda Brewer < brenda.brewer at icann.org>, Andrea Glandon , Steve Chan , Emily Barabas , gnso-secs at icann.org Dear Bruna, Please find attached a request from the GNSO *Expedited Policy Development Process on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs EPDP**)* for input from your group on topics within the EPDP?s charter. Responses are requested by 10 November 2021 and may be sent to gnso-secs at icann.org. Kind regards, Emily Barabas -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IDNs EPDP - Request for Early Input - NCSG.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 44011 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 16:30:21 2021 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:30:21 +0200 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: <9CE51530-510E-4B30-A050-3B4473BCFC8F@benin2point0.org> References: <9CE51530-510E-4B30-A050-3B4473BCFC8F@benin2point0.org> Message-ID: Hello, all, I agree with the points made by Steph about this not being the best place to discuss this issue but given the timing and me missing the deadline I decided to bring the debate here. That being said, can I move on with presenting Tomslin's name as our candidate for PC? thanks, Bruna On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Farell FOLLY wrote: > Dear all, > > I am definitively supportive of Tomslin. He is doing a great job, I hope > he accepts that. > > @__f_f__ > > Best regards > ____________________________________ > > Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir > GNSO Councillor > linkedin.com/in/farellf > > > > > > > On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin < > stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote: > > I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it > happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly > something we ought to discuss. > > I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them on > other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. > Workload distribution is a priority. > > Congratulations on moving to Berlin! > > cheers Stephanie > On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline for > confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO chair. > > And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich > we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward > as the NCPH candidate. > > I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was > also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize > some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG > name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we > putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. > > Apologies for the inconveniences! > > best, > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca Wed Sep 29 16:37:19 2021 From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:37:19 -0400 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Absolutely, go for it before he changes his mind!!! Steph Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 29, 2021, at 09:30, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: > > ? > Hello, all, > > I agree with the points made by Steph about this not being the best place to discuss this issue but given the timing and me missing the deadline I decided to bring the debate here. > > That being said, can I move on with presenting Tomslin's name as our candidate for PC? > > thanks, > Bruna > >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Farell FOLLY wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I am definitively supportive of Tomslin. He is doing a great job, I hope he accepts that. >> >> @__f_f__ >> >> Best regards >> ____________________________________ >> >> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir >> GNSO Councillor >> linkedin.com/in/farellf >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin wrote: >>> >>> I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly something we ought to discuss. >>> >>> I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them on other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. Workload distribution is a priority. >>> >>> Congratulations on moving to Berlin! >>> >>> cheers Stephanie >>> >>> On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO chair. >>>> >>>> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward as the NCPH candidate. >>>> >>>> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >>>> >>>> Apologies for the inconveniences! >>>> >>>> best, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos >>>> >>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation >>>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >>>> >>>> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos >>>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > > -- > Bruna Martins dos Santos > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From compsoftnet at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 20:37:07 2021 From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 18:37:07 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: References: <9CE51530-510E-4B30-A050-3B4473BCFC8F@benin2point0.org> Message-ID: ? On Wed, 29 Sep. 2021, 2:30 pm Bruna Martins dos Santos, < bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, all, > > I agree with the points made by Steph about this not being the best place > to discuss this issue but given the timing and me missing the deadline I > decided to bring the debate here. > > That being said, can I move on with presenting Tomslin's name as our > candidate for PC? > > thanks, > Bruna > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Farell FOLLY > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I am definitively supportive of Tomslin. He is doing a great job, I hope >> he accepts that. >> >> @__f_f__ >> >> Best regards >> ____________________________________ >> >> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir >> GNSO Councillor >> linkedin.com/in/farellf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin < >> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote: >> >> I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it >> happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly >> something we ought to discuss. >> >> I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them >> on other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. >> Workload distribution is a priority. >> >> Congratulations on moving to Berlin! >> >> cheers Stephanie >> On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline >> for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO >> chair. >> >> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich >> we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward >> as the NCPH candidate. >> >> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was >> also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize >> some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG >> name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we >> putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >> >> Apologies for the inconveniences! >> >> best, >> >> -- >> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >> >> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander >> von Humboldt Foundation >> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >> >> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >> >> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >> bruna.martinsantos >> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He is doing a great job, I hope >> he accepts that. >> >> @__f_f__ >> >> Best regards >> ____________________________________ >> >> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir >> GNSO Councillor >> linkedin.com/in/farellf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin < >> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote: >> >> I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it >> happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly >> something we ought to discuss. >> >> I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them >> on other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. >> Workload distribution is a priority. >> >> Congratulations on moving to Berlin! >> >> cheers Stephanie >> On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline >> for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO >> chair. >> >> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich >> we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward >> as the NCPH candidate. >> >> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was >> also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize >> some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG >> name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we >> putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >> >> Apologies for the inconveniences! >> >> best, >> >> -- >> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >> >> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander >> von Humboldt Foundation >> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >> >> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >> >> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >> bruna.martinsantos >> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 23:09:20 2021 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 06:09:20 +1000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hahaha! Thank you all for the kind words and for having confidence in me to take on the role. I am happy to take on this new journey. Hopefully it will be exciting. Thanks again. Tomslin On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 23:37, Stephanie Perrin < stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote: > Absolutely, go for it before he changes his mind!!! > Steph > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 29, 2021, at 09:30, Bruna Martins dos Santos > wrote: > > ? > Hello, all, > > I agree with the points made by Steph about this not being the best place > to discuss this issue but given the timing and me missing the deadline I > decided to bring the debate here. > > That being said, can I move on with presenting Tomslin's name as our > candidate for PC? > > thanks, > Bruna > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:01 PM Farell FOLLY > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I am definitively supportive of Tomslin. He is doing a great job, I hope >> he accepts that. >> >> @__f_f__ >> >> Best regards >> ____________________________________ >> >> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir >> GNSO Councillor >> linkedin.com/in/farellf >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2021, at 17:10, Stephanie E Perrin < >> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote: >> >> I suppose we would have discussed all this at the last meeting, had it >> happened? Obviously I am supportive of Tomslin, but this is certainly >> something we ought to discuss. >> >> I am carrying a lot of committees, I would like to offload some of them >> on other members of NCSG. Please let us discuss this at our next meeting. >> Workload distribution is a priority. >> >> Congratulations on moving to Berlin! >> >> cheers Stephanie >> On 2021-09-28 5:26 a.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I am writing to let you know that yesterday was the staff-set deadline >> for confirming our support for any candidates for the position of GNSO >> chair. >> >> And given I had a confirmation of support for Phillippe from Wolf-Ulrich >> we opted for supporting his candidacy as well and his name was put forward >> as the NCPH candidate. >> >> I apologize for not communicating with all of you on this issue but I was >> also moving from Brazil to Germany this past week so I had to prioritize >> some last minute bureaucracies around this. Now we need to confirm an NCSG >> name for the Vice-chair position and I would like to ask you who are we >> putting forward as I understand Tatiana is term-limited. >> >> Apologies for the inconveniences! >> >> best, >> >> -- >> >> *Bruna Martins dos Santos * >> >> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander >> von Humboldt Foundation >> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede >> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN >> >> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus >> >> Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: >> bruna.martinsantos >> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > > -- > > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen) | Alexander > von Humboldt Foundation > > Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede > Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN > > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus > > Twitter: @boomartins // Skype: > bruna.martinsantos > bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mesumbeslin at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 23:21:08 2021 From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 06:21:08 +1000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Public Comment] Call for volunteers - Initial Report from the EPDP on Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear members, Just a polite reminder and in case you missed it in your radar, this public comment proceeding is still open and we don't have any volunteers yet for it. If you're interested in the curative rights protection for IGOs, don't hesitate to volunteer for the draft. We have two members on the EPDP (Juan and Ioana) who can help with any questions. Cheers Tomslin On Mon, 20 Sept 2021 at 09:22, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote: > Dear members, > > The public comment period on the *Initial Report from the EPDP on > Specific Curative Rights Protections for IGOs* is in progress. > > The Policy Committee is calling for volunteers to draft an NCSG comment > for this proceeding which is due for consideration on *Wednesday, 20 > October 2021* to allow time for filling and submitting the new public > comment form. > > Please let me know off-list if you'd like to volunteer for the comment > drafting. It'll be nice to have more than one volunteer, including > new-commers who can use this as an opportunity to learn and be familiar > with policy work. > > More information about the initial report can be found here : > https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/initial-report-epdp-specific-curative-rights-protections-igos-14-09-2021 > > A draft Google doc for the comment can be found here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AB2howYM7pjcJzJ34-_TNZsxXj3uj5UklYFkbyHxWyg/edit?usp=sharing > > You can find previous NCSG comments here: > https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2021 > > See below some best practices for the penholder: > > - Provide the first draft on the mailing list in by day 21 of the > comment period > - Try to resolve the comments throughout the duration of comment > period > - Make sure that the commenter has seen how comment has been resolved > (contact them directly if necessary) > > Cheers, > Tomslin > @Twitter: https://twitter.com/tomsleen > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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