From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 12:01:04 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 19:01:04 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [ACTION] Appointment to PDP to Review the Transfer
 Policy
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeUQK3ydFY+oi-cJi9JoHc76ZUSSsS3f17B83_ue8LVugw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeUQK3ydFY+oi-cJi9JoHc76ZUSSsS3f17B83_ue8LVugw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeXXwoTBDPF3fq26qB2WQEZSfXuWtqi8iTnR+jQdQj4g0w@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you all for the timely responses. I'll inform staff right away.

I'll also like to inform you that Akinremi Taiwo (also on this list) has
also offered to be an alternate.

Cheers,
Tomslin


On Mon., 31 May 2021, 20:50 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear PC,
>
> I hope you all are well.
>
> Following the call and reminder, for volunteers to the PDP to Review the
> Transfer Policy, two members have kindly shown interest to be appointed to
> the WG. They are:
>
>    1. *Wisdom Donkor *and
>    2. *Farzaneh Badii*
>
> Since the working group already started work on May 14th 2021, please let
> us know if you have any objections to their appointment. Preferably by
> 23:00 UTC June 1st 2021.
>
> Best regards
> Tomslin
>
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From compsoftnet at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 10:32:27 2021
From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 08:32:27 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] IMPORTANT Documents for EPDP on Transfer Policy Review
Message-ID: <CAGK4d09PFQRn+pgnE+MVvTr746X-KkvGTqs8cB=WhgeOP0OPsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear PC,

Thought to share this with you the draft charter for the pdp on
transfer policy and the final issues report.

I hope you find the document useful to understand the direction of the
transfer policy review pdp.
-- 
Best regards

*Taiwo Peter Akinremi*
------ ------ -------  ------ ------ -------  ------ ------ ------- ------
------ -------  ------ ------ ------
 IT Manager/Advisory
*Phone*; +2348187476292, +2347063830177 *Skype*: akinremi.taiwo
*Email:* info at compsoftnet.com.ng *Website:* www.compsoftnet.com.ng
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From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:15:31 +0000
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From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:17:31 +0000
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From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:18:38 +0000
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From: PolicyCalendar at icann.org (ICANN Policy Calendar)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:22:00 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Monthly Policy call | 12 July | 11:30 UTC
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From brenda.brewer at icann.org  Mon Jun  7 23:28:46 2021
From: brenda.brewer at icann.org (Brenda Brewer)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 20:28:46 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Monthly Policy call | 12 July at 11:30 UTC
Message-ID: <6EC89E68-E8A3-40D9-9F57-49355E621AEE@icann.org>

Good day all!

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From compsoftnet at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 20:06:07 2021
From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 18:06:07 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Transfer Policy: NCSG positions
Message-ID: <CAGK4d098mrqTFeQKK05p=kQrKdtSK1GwZD4_TfdBD33XQ_jjFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear PC,

This is to inform you that discussion as regards Transfer Policy has
started. I would like to ask if NCSG has a previous position on transfer
policy such as the use of Authcode and its usage for transfering domains or
any other issues that the reps need to raise.  Is the current authcode
privacy inclined and its implementation.

Looking forward to hearing from pc members.

-- 
Best regards

*Taiwo Peter Akinremi*
------ ------ -------  ------ ------ -------  ------ ------ ------- ------
------ -------  ------ ------ ------
 IT Manager/Advisory
*Phone*; +2348187476292, +2347063830177 *Skype*: akinremi.taiwo
*Email:* info at compsoftnet.com.ng *Website:* www.compsoftnet.com.ng
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 08:56:30 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 15:56:30 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Transfer Policy: NCSG positions
In-Reply-To: <CAGK4d098mrqTFeQKK05p=kQrKdtSK1GwZD4_TfdBD33XQ_jjFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGK4d098mrqTFeQKK05p=kQrKdtSK1GwZD4_TfdBD33XQ_jjFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeWXCoX0u3+r8FurVh_8xZ6ndsmZw9=x2cT7a7a1O2=POQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Akinremi,

Thanks for the update. Personally I don't know of a previous discussed
position on transfer policy. May be a search on the NCSG list archive could
help? However, I am sure a current and detailed position can easily be
developed.

Cheers,
Tomslin


On Wed., 9 Jun. 2021, 03:06 Akinremi Peter Taiwo, <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear PC,
>
> This is to inform you that discussion as regards Transfer Policy has
> started. I would like to ask if NCSG has a previous position on transfer
> policy such as the use of Authcode and its usage for transfering domains or
> any other issues that the reps need to raise.  Is the current authcode
> privacy inclined and its implementation.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from pc members.
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> *Taiwo Peter Akinremi*
> ------ ------ -------  ------ ------ -------  ------ ------ ------- ------
> ------ -------  ------ ------ ------
>  IT Manager/Advisory
> *Phone*; +2348187476292, +2347063830177 *Skype*: akinremi.taiwo
> *Email:* info at compsoftnet.com.ng *Website:* www.compsoftnet.com.ng
> ___________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Wed Jun  9 16:09:47 2021
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie E Perrin)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:09:47 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Transfer Policy: NCSG positions
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeWXCoX0u3+r8FurVh_8xZ6ndsmZw9=x2cT7a7a1O2=POQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGK4d098mrqTFeQKK05p=kQrKdtSK1GwZD4_TfdBD33XQ_jjFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM8DdeWXCoX0u3+r8FurVh_8xZ6ndsmZw9=x2cT7a7a1O2=POQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24953d51-996c-06d8-995e-1f51bf97aa8a@mail.utoronto.ca>

Kathy Kleiman had raised privacy issues earlier re? the transfer policy, 
as have the registrars.? Tagging her as I know she is super busy these 
days.? I will also ask Sarah Wyld since she has been following for the 
registrars

Stephanie

On 2021-06-09 1:56 a.m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> **
> Hey?Akinremi,
>
> Thanks for the update. Personally I don't know of a previous discussed 
> position on transfer policy. May be a search on the NCSG list archive 
> could help? However, I am sure a current and detailed position can 
> easily be developed.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 17:50:15 2021
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:50:15 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Transfer Policy: NCSG positions
In-Reply-To: <24953d51-996c-06d8-995e-1f51bf97aa8a@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <CAGK4d098mrqTFeQKK05p=kQrKdtSK1GwZD4_TfdBD33XQ_jjFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM8DdeWXCoX0u3+r8FurVh_8xZ6ndsmZw9=x2cT7a7a1O2=POQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <24953d51-996c-06d8-995e-1f51bf97aa8a@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV06aQcuEWDSTuJyYgAEv4eJa_CbB5n2BXQnqD5LVekzOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Heya, maybe this is an email that could be also sent to the membership list
so we can try to get a conversation started too and have our members help
us list resources and so forth ?

Best,
b

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:09 AM Stephanie E Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Kathy Kleiman had raised privacy issues earlier re  the transfer policy,
> as have the registrars.  Tagging her as I know she is super busy these
> days.  I will also ask Sarah Wyld since she has been following for the
> registrars
>
> Stephanie
> On 2021-06-09 1:56 a.m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>
> Hey Akinremi,
>
> Thanks for the update. Personally I don't know of a previous discussed
> position on transfer policy. May be a search on the NCSG list archive could
> help? However, I am sure a current and detailed position can easily be
> developed.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>


-- 

*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
<https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>

Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 11:02:45 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:02:45 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Council Interactive Working Session Monday 14 June
 2021 14:30 - 16:00 CET.
In-Reply-To: <604511FE-D843-442A-8919-E4BD73263F29@icann.org>
References: <3E4F61F0-3F6E-4F22-896A-074C2B19B07C@icann.org>
 <604511FE-D843-442A-8919-E4BD73263F29@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeVws+0_eG_B9b0+vgSNiy88cyZ8KSiB_EPi6ErQTczTUg@mail.gmail.com>

Dear members,

The GNSO council will be hosting an interactive working session with the
community on *Monday 14 June 2021 from 14:30 CET to 16:00 CET * where a
variety of topics will be discussed. The final agenda can be found here:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/GNSO+Council+Working+Session+-+ICANN71

You are encouraged to review the agenda and come with questions, if any. In
addition, Org GDS staff will be joining the discussion on the first agenda
item *Status of Implementation of GNSO Policy Recommendations*, and they
would appreciate if you can send questions in advance.

Cheers,
Tomslin
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 00:20:16 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 07:20:16 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Policy meeting draft Agenda
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeXEYzNtkUBQ7ysh4OoEOEy2znWcg4iMrwh_vDp-Z2oG8w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear PC,

Please find below the draft agenda for our policy meeting during ICANN71.
Please let me know if you'd like anything added/changed before I send it
out to the members list.

   1. Introduction
   2. Updates from the GNSO Council Action Decision Radar (ADR)

3.     GNSO Council Agenda - Tatiana

4.     Policy & WG updates

a.     Update from Review of transfer policy PDP

b.     Update from IGO WT

c.     Update from EPDP Phase 2a

5.     Any other business
Cheers,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 12:11:21 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 19:11:21 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Policy Committee meeting Agenda
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeXEYzNtkUBQ7ysh4OoEOEy2znWcg4iMrwh_vDp-Z2oG8w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeXEYzNtkUBQ7ysh4OoEOEy2znWcg4iMrwh_vDp-Z2oG8w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeVs1xL7SawYjfsWS1nWwAdfWX_htRYS4Whn7orCqEmhmA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear members,

Please find below the agenda for our policy meeting during ICANN71 on 16
June 2021 08:30 UTC.

   1. Introduction
   2. Updates from the GNSO Council Action Decision Radar (ADR)

3.     GNSO Council Agenda - Tatiana

4.     Policy & WG updates

a.     Update from Review of transfer policy PDP

b.     Update from IGO WT

c.     Update from EPDP Phase 2a

5.     Any other business

See you there.

Cheers,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 14:43:39 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 21:43:39 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public Comment Call for Volunteers - Input on the Initial
 Report of the Phase 2A EPDP
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeUdr6fNBLg-nwh73wn9j2v_DN73SSH7NL9Eg0zGAcRqZA@mail.gmail.com>

 Dear members,

There is a running public proceeding seeking to obtain community input on
the Initial Report of the Phase 2A EPDP on the Temporary Specification for
gTLD Registration Data Team.

It is an important one to us, so please let me know off-list if you'd like
to volunteer for the comment drafting. It'll be nice to have more than one
volunteer.

The comment period closes on 19 July 2021.

More information on the public comment can be found here :
https://www.icann.org/public-comments/epdp-phase-2a-initial-report-2021-06-03-en

A draft Google doc for the comment can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BFpUPM26ZjKolabEdDQFh7tRWCBBHpix4CFWr2H-mko/edit?usp=sharing

You can find previous NCSG comments here:
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2021

Regards,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 08:39:26 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:39:26 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) Volunteers
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi team,

Just to let you know that we received only one expression of interest to
this work. And that is from Farell Folly.

Regards,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Fri Jun 25 15:18:59 2021
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 14:18:59 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
 Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61122FCB-FEFF-4E0C-90ED-28B7D67442D6@benin2point0.org>

Hello all,

Did we get, meanwhile, anyone else interested in this? I was also interested in serving as the GNSO liaison for that in order to experience this role; however, I think it is conflictual to hold both positions, isn?t it? If no one from our side steps in, I might represent us, but if we?ve got another SOI it would be good that the person goes and I apply for the liaison role. Both roles are fine to me, but your advice and thoughts are welcome.

Nice day and weekend.


@__f_f__

Best regards
____________________________________

Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf  






> On 16 Jun 2021, at 07:39, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi team,
> 
> Just to let you know that we received only one expression of interest to this work. And that is from Farell Folly.
> 
> Regards,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 15:55:24 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 22:55:24 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
 Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <61122FCB-FEFF-4E0C-90ED-28B7D67442D6@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>
 <61122FCB-FEFF-4E0C-90ED-28B7D67442D6@benin2point0.org>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeVvWosyGS9cr71upzHffqnDUv-84hahudUum2ZzJNKFqg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Farell,

Thank you again for volunteering for this. They are conflicting roles for
sure, as the liaison role requires you to be neutral.

No one else has offered to volunteer but I will also be volunteering for
this one, even as I try to avoid growing the number of days I have to wake
up at 3am for working group calls :-)

We would like as many on the influencing side as possible, but I also
appreciate the need for our members to develop other council leadership
skills which will increase our overall influence as a group in the council.
Therefore speaking for myself, I am happy for you to give the liaison role
a shot.

Cheers,
Tomslin


On Fri., 25 Jun. 2021, 22:19 Farell FOLLY, <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Did we get, meanwhile, anyone else interested in this? I was also
> interested in serving as the GNSO liaison for that in order to experience
> this role; however, I think it is conflictual to hold both positions, isn?t
> it? If no one from our side steps in, I might represent us, but if we?ve
> got another SOI it would be good that the person goes and I apply for the
> liaison role. Both roles are fine to me, but your advice and thoughts are
> welcome.
>
> Nice day and weekend.
>
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir
> GNSO Councillor
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Jun 2021, at 07:39, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> Just to let you know that we received only one expression of interest to
> this work. And that is from Farell Folly.
>
> Regards,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
>
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From compsoftnet at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 01:32:45 2021
From: compsoftnet at gmail.com (Akinremi Peter Taiwo)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 23:32:45 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
 Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeVvWosyGS9cr71upzHffqnDUv-84hahudUum2ZzJNKFqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>
 <61122FCB-FEFF-4E0C-90ED-28B7D67442D6@benin2point0.org>
 <CAM8DdeVvWosyGS9cr71upzHffqnDUv-84hahudUum2ZzJNKFqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGK4d0-vzpSJpSrWp5W_AqaNBm=fgTgKB_xmOZbffhZuJ=fihw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Tomslin,

Please, accept my interest to volunteer for this working group.

I will do some reading in preparation for the task.

Regards.
Peter



On Fri, 25 Jun. 2021, 1:55 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Farell,
>
> Thank you again for volunteering for this. They are conflicting roles for
> sure, as the liaison role requires you to be neutral.
>
> No one else has offered to volunteer but I will also be volunteering for
> this one, even as I try to avoid growing the number of days I have to wake
> up at 3am for working group calls :-)
>
> We would like as many on the influencing side as possible, but I also
> appreciate the need for our members to develop other council leadership
> skills which will increase our overall influence as a group in the council.
> Therefore speaking for myself, I am happy for you to give the liaison role
> a shot.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
> On Fri., 25 Jun. 2021, 22:19 Farell FOLLY, <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Did we get, meanwhile, anyone else interested in this? I was also
>> interested in serving as the GNSO liaison for that in order to experience
>> this role; however, I think it is conflictual to hold both positions, isn?t
>> it? If no one from our side steps in, I might represent us, but if we?ve
>> got another SOI it would be good that the person goes and I apply for the
>> liaison role. Both roles are fine to me, but your advice and thoughts are
>> welcome.
>>
>> Nice day and weekend.
>>
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir
>> GNSO Councillor
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Jun 2021, at 07:39, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi team,
>>
>> Just to let you know that we received only one expression of interest to
>> this work. And that is from Farell Folly.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Sun Jun 27 16:47:25 2021
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:47:25 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)
 Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <CAGK4d0-vzpSJpSrWp5W_AqaNBm=fgTgKB_xmOZbffhZuJ=fihw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeWoLU7ZhdebNkYgHz_Smv8j8yeG3LwaAeFNSHfsv1X0Sg@mail.gmail.com>
 <61122FCB-FEFF-4E0C-90ED-28B7D67442D6@benin2point0.org>
 <CAM8DdeVvWosyGS9cr71upzHffqnDUv-84hahudUum2ZzJNKFqg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGK4d0-vzpSJpSrWp5W_AqaNBm=fgTgKB_xmOZbffhZuJ=fihw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E6F650D1-7589-4591-8F32-856899765DE9@benin2point0.org>

Dear all,

With two candidates, I think I can give the liaison role a try. Thanks again.

@__f_f__

Best regards
____________________________________

Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf  






> On 26 Jun 2021, at 00:32, Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Tomslin,
> 
> Please, accept my interest to volunteer for this working group. 
> 
> I will do some reading in preparation for the task. 
> 
> Regards.
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 25 Jun. 2021, 1:55 pm Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Farell,
> 
> Thank you again for volunteering for this. They are conflicting roles for sure, as the liaison role requires you to be neutral. 
> 
> No one else has offered to volunteer but I will also be volunteering for this one, even as I try to avoid growing the number of days I have to wake up at 3am for working group calls :-)
> 
> We would like as many on the influencing side as possible, but I also appreciate the need for our members to develop other council leadership skills which will increase our overall influence as a group in the council. Therefore speaking for myself, I am happy for you to give the liaison role a shot.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>    
> 
> On Fri., 25 Jun. 2021, 22:19 Farell FOLLY, <farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Did we get, meanwhile, anyone else interested in this? I was also interested in serving as the GNSO liaison for that in order to experience this role; however, I think it is conflictual to hold both positions, isn?t it? If no one from our side steps in, I might represent us, but if we?ve got another SOI it would be good that the person goes and I apply for the liaison role. Both roles are fine to me, but your advice and thoughts are welcome.
> 
> Nice day and weekend.
> 
> 
> @__f_f__
> 
> Best regards
> ____________________________________
> 
> Lt-Colonel Farell FOLLY, Ir
> GNSO Councillor
> linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Jun 2021, at 07:39, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi team,
>> 
>> Just to let you know that we received only one expression of interest to this work. And that is from Farell Folly.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>

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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Mon Jun 28 17:37:49 2021
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:37:49 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
In-Reply-To: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
References: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>

Heya,

Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.

I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested in
going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you please
reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?

ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.

best,
Bruna

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim Galvin (
jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>, lseufer at namespace.com <
lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <rlevy at tucows.com>,
secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>


Hi Bruna,



I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!



I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.



I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust as
needed...just let me know.



Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If none
of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an alternate
slot.



22 June

29 June

6 July

13 July

20 July

27 July



Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!



Best,
Keith





*From:* Drazek, Keith
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
*To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
*Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
*Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse



Hello Bruna,



I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out to
you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as we
look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.



The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach to
our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously noted
by the CPH, DNS Abuse
<https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
Abuse.



We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.



As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:



What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
levels?



What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?



Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?



Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join us.
Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please propose a
Tuesday when you are available.



Best regards,

Keith



Keith Drazek

Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations

Verisign, Inc.

+1-571-377-9182

Kdrazek at verisign.com






-- 

*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
<https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>

Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 00:14:05 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 07:14:05 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
In-Reply-To: <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
 <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeXuahcvuRroyorURiVDinneZ4YMHNsJ48AqxVPqz7XS0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Bruna.

I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting being
organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we might not
have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we promised to do
before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions and working
definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) start drafting a
position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, concerns and process,
have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to the meeting, not having
progressed from the place we were at the previous meeting. It doesn't sound
like a very productive use of our limited time, especially if folks are
required to wake up in the middle of the night.

I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. To
do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse Task-Force, so
that we have someone responsible in driving progress on the two tasks
above. If we are lucky,  we might be able to have a position in a month and
then meet with CPH.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers,
Tomslin
@LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/


On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Heya,
>
> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
> inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
> available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
> or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>
> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested
> in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you
> please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>
> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.
>
> best,
> Bruna
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim Galvin
> (jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>, lseufer at namespace.com <
> lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <rlevy at tucows.com>,
> secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>
>
> Hi Bruna,
>
>
>
> I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>
>
>
> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
> Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
> meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>
>
>
> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust
> as needed...just let me know.
>
>
>
> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If none
> of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an alternate
> slot.
>
>
>
> 22 June
>
> 29 June
>
> 6 July
>
> 13 July
>
> 20 July
>
> 27 July
>
>
>
> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>
>
>
> Best,
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Drazek, Keith
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
> jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>
>
>
> Hello Bruna,
>
>
>
> I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out
> to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as
> we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>
>
>
> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach to
> our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously noted
> by the CPH, DNS Abuse
> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
> when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
> Abuse.
>
>
>
> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
> suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
> mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
> questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
> discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
> on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>
>
>
> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
> discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>
>
>
> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
> levels?
>
>
>
> What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>
>
>
> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
>
>
>
> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join us.
> Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please propose a
> Tuesday when you are available.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> Keith Drazek
>
> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>
> Verisign, Inc.
>
> +1-571-377-9182
>
> Kdrazek at verisign.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>
> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
> <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>
> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>
> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
> bruna.martinsantos
> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 30 03:45:45 2021
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:45:45 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeXuahcvuRroyorURiVDinneZ4YMHNsJ48AqxVPqz7XS0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
 <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM8DdeXuahcvuRroyorURiVDinneZ4YMHNsJ48AqxVPqz7XS0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c5c84de5-9006-ba50-a4ec-c63c54801d2d@yahoo.com>

Thanks both,
I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order 
to advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about 
what is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing 
that or maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.

I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.

Best Regards,
Juan


El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p.?m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribi?:
> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting 
> being organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we 
> might not have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we 
> promised to do before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions 
> and working definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) 
> start drafting a position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, 
> concerns?and process, have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to 
> the meeting, not having progressed from the place we were at the 
> previous meeting. It doesn't sound like a very productive use of our 
> limited time, especially if folks are required to wake up in the 
> middle of the night.
>
> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. 
> To do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse 
> Task-Force, so that we have someone responsible in driving progress on 
> the two tasks above. If we are lucky, we might be able to have a 
> position in a month and then meet with CPH.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/ 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos 
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Heya,
>
>     Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while
>     ago inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still
>     have four available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6
>     July, 13 July, 20 July or 27 July and the meeting would be
>     scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>
>     I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be
>     interested in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse
>     group. Can you please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>
>     ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
>     protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a
>     look.
>
>     best,
>     Bruna
>
>     ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>     From: *Drazek, Keith* <kdrazek at verisign.com
>     <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>>
>     Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
>     Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
>     To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>     <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
>     Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org
>     <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>) <BCimbolic at pir.org
>     <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>>, Jim Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info
>     <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>) <jgalvin at afilias.info
>     <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>>, lseufer at namespace.com
>     <mailto:lseufer at namespace.com> <lseufer at namespace.com
>     <mailto:lseufer at namespace.com>>, rlevy at tucows.com
>     <mailto:rlevy at tucows.com> <rlevy at tucows.com
>     <mailto:rlevy at tucows.com>>, secretariat at rysg.info
>     <mailto:secretariat at rysg.info> <secretariat at rysg.info
>     <mailto:secretariat at rysg.info>>, secretariat at icannregistrars.org
>     <mailto:secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>     <secretariat at icannregistrars.org
>     <mailto:secretariat at icannregistrars.org>>
>
>
>     Hi Bruna,
>
>     I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>
>     I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
>     conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these
>     sessions on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled
>     joint CPH DNS Abuse meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>
>     I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can
>     adjust as needed...just let me know.
>
>     Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC.
>     If none of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to
>     find an alternate slot.
>
>     22 June
>
>     29 June
>
>     6 July
>
>     13 July
>
>     20 July
>
>     27 July
>
>     Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>
>     Best,
>     Keith
>
>     *From:* Drazek, Keith
>     *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
>     *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org
>     <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>>; Jim Galvin <jgalvin at afilias.info
>     <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com
>     <mailto:gbunton at tucows.com>>
>     *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>
>     Hello Bruna,
>
>     I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am
>     reaching out to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS
>     Abuse Working Group as we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>
>     The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting
>     outreach to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse.
>     As previously noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
>     <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
>     comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets,
>     and spam when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other
>     forms of DNS Abuse.
>
>     We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points,
>     hear suggestions and identify common ground where we can work
>     together to mitigate DNS Abuse.? Is there a subset of the NCSG
>     focusing on DNS Abuse questions that would be able to join the CPH
>     DNS Abuse group on a call to discuss this topic? We want to
>     encourage frank and productive discussions? on the topic that lead
>     to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>
>     As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide
>     our discussion. Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>
>     What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS
>     Abuse levels?
>
>     What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>
>     Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find
>     helpful?
>
>     Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to
>     join us. Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.? If
>     so, please propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Keith
>
>     Keith Drazek
>
>     Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>
>     Verisign, Inc.
>
>     +1-571-377-9182
>
>     Kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:Kdrazek at verisign.com>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>     /*
>
>     Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
>     <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>
>     Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>     Chair?| Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>     <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>     Co-Coordinator?| Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
>
>     Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins>?// Skype:
>     bruna.martinsantos
>     bruna at dataprivacybr.org <mailto:bruna at dataprivacybr.org>?and
>     bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>     _______________________________________________
>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
GNSO Councilor - ICANN
Civil Soc. Rep - CODECTI  (Comit? Departamental de Ciencia Tecnolog?a e Innovaci?n)
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Registered Linux User No.533108.


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From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 04:41:03 2021
From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 22:41:03 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
In-Reply-To: <c5c84de5-9006-ba50-a4ec-c63c54801d2d@yahoo.com>
References: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
 <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM8DdeXuahcvuRroyorURiVDinneZ4YMHNsJ48AqxVPqz7XS0Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <c5c84de5-9006-ba50-a4ec-c63c54801d2d@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CADAEEV21A4A96Mm17oaa7V=7-TqKssRGNqzSAx02ygyJpUA9oA@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Tomslin leading the efforts. I have tried myself but given the
limited responses and engagement Id be happy to cooperate with whomever
wants to step in.

Also, maybe this is a good space for us to take a look at the RrSG paper on
Abuse as well.

best,
B

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:46 PM Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC <
ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Thanks both,
> I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order to
> advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about what
> is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing that or
> maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.
>
> I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.
>
> Best Regards,
> Juan
>
>
> El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p. m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribi?:
>
> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting being
> organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we might not
> have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we promised to do
> before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions and working
> definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) start drafting a
> position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, concerns and process,
> have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to the meeting, not having
> progressed from the place we were at the previous meeting. It doesn't sound
> like a very productive use of our limited time, especially if folks are
> required to wake up in the middle of the night.
>
> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. To
> do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse Task-Force, so
> that we have someone responsible in driving progress on the two tasks
> above. If we are lucky,  we might be able to have a position in a month and
> then meet with CPH.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heya,
>>
>> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
>> inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
>> available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
>> or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>>
>> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested
>> in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you
>> please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>>
>> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
>> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.
>>
>> best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
>> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
>> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim
>> Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>,
>> lseufer at namespace.com <lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <
>> rlevy at tucows.com>, secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
>> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bruna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
>> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
>> Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
>> meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust
>> as needed...just let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If none
>> of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an alternate
>> slot.
>>
>>
>>
>> 22 June
>>
>> 29 June
>>
>> 6 July
>>
>> 13 July
>>
>> 20 July
>>
>> 27 July
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Drazek, Keith
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
>> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
>> jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
>> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Bruna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out
>> to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as
>> we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach
>> to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously
>> noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
>> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
>> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
>> when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
>> Abuse.
>>
>>
>>
>> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
>> suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
>> mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
>> questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
>> discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
>> on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
>> discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>>
>>
>>
>> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
>> levels?
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join
>> us.  Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please
>> propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> Keith Drazek
>>
>> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>>
>> Verisign, Inc.
>>
>> +1-571-377-9182
>>
>> Kdrazek at verisign.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos  *
>>
>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
>> <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>>
>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
> --
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
> GNSO Councilor - ICANN
> Civil Soc. Rep - CODECTI  (Comit? Departamental de Ciencia Tecnolog?a e Innovaci?n)
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
> Registered Linux User No.533108.
>
>
> Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
> Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>


-- 

*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
<https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>

Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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From mesumbeslin at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:29:11 2021
From: mesumbeslin at gmail.com (Tomslin Samme-Nlar)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:29:11 +1000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
In-Reply-To: <c5c84de5-9006-ba50-a4ec-c63c54801d2d@yahoo.com>
References: <924ab4b3bba64bc7904ea50c4753f9fc@verisign.com>
 <CADAEEV07sfsx=01jphBbo+iYjm=MGRBCsjwsgRAk-=J5HNOmjw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAM8DdeXuahcvuRroyorURiVDinneZ4YMHNsJ48AqxVPqz7XS0Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <c5c84de5-9006-ba50-a4ec-c63c54801d2d@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8DdeUnEeELzBWVHTH9Jdt8oV5BOfauzC=AZue4dzY-hLzq0g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Juan.

I agree, everyone in PC should join this effort, so we can get a position
quickly.

Regarding the chair of the task-force, I don't mind doing it, but I was
hoping that this will be an opportunity for members interested in
developing leadership skills to do so. In that regard, I suggest the PC
vice-chair, Akinremi chairs the task-force.

Cheers,
Tomslin


On Wed., 30 Jun. 2021, 10:45 Juan Manuel Rojas, <jumaropi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks both,
> I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order to
> advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about what
> is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing that or
> maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.
>
> I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.
>
> Best Regards,
> Juan
>
>
> El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p. m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribi?:
>
> Thanks Bruna.
>
> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting being
> organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we might not
> have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we promised to do
> before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions and working
> definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) start drafting a
> position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, concerns and process,
> have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to the meeting, not having
> progressed from the place we were at the previous meeting. It doesn't sound
> like a very productive use of our limited time, especially if folks are
> required to wake up in the middle of the night.
>
> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. To
> do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse Task-Force, so
> that we have someone responsible in driving progress on the two tasks
> above. If we are lucky,  we might be able to have a position in a month and
> then meet with CPH.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heya,
>>
>> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
>> inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
>> available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
>> or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>>
>> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested
>> in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you
>> please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>>
>> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
>> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.
>>
>> best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
>> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
>> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim
>> Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>,
>> lseufer at namespace.com <lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <
>> rlevy at tucows.com>, secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
>> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bruna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
>> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
>> Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
>> meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust
>> as needed...just let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If none
>> of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an alternate
>> slot.
>>
>>
>>
>> 22 June
>>
>> 29 June
>>
>> 6 July
>>
>> 13 July
>>
>> 20 July
>>
>> 27 July
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Drazek, Keith
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
>> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
>> jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
>> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Bruna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out
>> to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as
>> we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach
>> to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously
>> noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
>> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
>> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
>> when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
>> Abuse.
>>
>>
>>
>> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
>> suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
>> mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
>> questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
>> discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
>> on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
>> discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>>
>>
>>
>> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
>> levels?
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join
>> us.  Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please
>> propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>> Keith Drazek
>>
>> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>>
>> Verisign, Inc.
>>
>> +1-571-377-9182
>>
>> Kdrazek at verisign.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos  *
>>
>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
>> <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>>
>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 16:46:23 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New meeting request: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
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Thank you Tomslin.

I would be happy to do so.

@Bruna Martins <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> Can you confirm if we still have
enough time to get this done.

Regards

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:29 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Juan.
>
> I agree, everyone in PC should join this effort, so we can get a position
> quickly.
>
> Regarding the chair of the task-force, I don't mind doing it, but I was
> hoping that this will be an opportunity for members interested in
> developing leadership skills to do so. In that regard, I suggest the PC
> vice-chair, Akinremi chairs the task-force.
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
> On Wed., 30 Jun. 2021, 10:45 Juan Manuel Rojas, <jumaropi at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks both,
>> I agree with Tomslin proposal. I think we should move forward in order to
>> advance in our Task-Force to have at least a common definition about what
>> is DNS abuse for us. Maybe yourself as PC Chair, can lead us doing that or
>> maybe anyone who want to step-in to lead this effort.
>>
>> I think all PC members should be part of this discussion.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> El 29/06/21 a las 4:14 p. m., Tomslin Samme-Nlar escribi?:
>>
>> Thanks Bruna.
>>
>> I think we should meet them sometime. However, it seems this meeting
>> being organised now will be a one-way update from them to us and we might
>> not have the input they seek in the meeting since the actions we promised
>> to do before we meet again, being (1) mapping other positions and working
>> definitions of DNS abuse across the ICANN community; (2) start drafting
>> a position paper: NCSGs DNS abuse working definition, concerns and
>> process, have not been actioned yet. So we'll be going to the meeting, not
>> having progressed from the place we were at the previous meeting. It
>> doesn't sound like a very productive use of our limited time, especially if
>> folks are required to wake up in the middle of the night.
>>
>> I suggest we make some progress on our side before we meet them again. To
>> do this, I suggest we appoint a chair to the NCSG DNS Abuse Task-Force, so
>> that we have someone responsible in driving progress on the two tasks
>> above. If we are lucky,  we might be able to have a position in a month and
>> then meet with CPH.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tomslin
>> @LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 2021 at 00:38, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Heya,
>>>
>>> Hope everyone is well! Keith and the CPH sent me an email a while ago
>>> inquiring about a second meeting about DNS abuse. We still have four
>>> available dates from the initially suggested ones: 6 July, 13 July, 20 July
>>> or 27 July and the meeting would be scheduled at 1500 UTC.
>>>
>>> I am writing, therefore, to know from you whether we would be interested
>>> in going back to our interactions with their DNS abuse group. Can you
>>> please reply to this email by Thursday, cob ?
>>>
>>> ps. RrSG also issued a white paper about DNS abuse and registrant
>>> protections that I'm adding to this email just so you can take a look.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Bruna
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
>>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
>>> Subject: RE: NCSG/CPH Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic (BCimbolic at pir.org) <BCimbolic at pir.org>, Jim
>>> Galvin (jgalvin at afilias.info) <jgalvin at afilias.info>,
>>> lseufer at namespace.com <lseufer at namespace.com>, rlevy at tucows.com <
>>> rlevy at tucows.com>, secretariat at rysg.info <secretariat at rysg.info>,
>>> secretariat at icannregistrars.org <secretariat at icannregistrars.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bruna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you?re doing well as we approach ICANN 71!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm checking in with you to schedule our follow-up joint CPH/NCSG
>>> conversation on DNS Abuse. The CPH is looking to schedule these sessions on
>>> Tuesdays at 1500 UTC, during our regularly-scheduled joint CPH DNS Abuse
>>> meeting time slot, ideally starting in late June.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've tentatively penciled NCSG in for Tuesday, July 27 but we can adjust
>>> as needed...just let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are the possible dates over the next six weeks, at 1500 UTC. If
>>> none of these dates/times work, let me know and we can try to find an
>>> alternate slot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 22 June
>>>
>>> 29 June
>>>
>>> 6 July
>>>
>>> 13 July
>>>
>>> 20 July
>>>
>>> 27 July
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and we look forward to our continued dialogue!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Drazek, Keith
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2021 11:44 AM
>>> *To:* bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> *Cc:* Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org>; Jim Galvin <
>>> jgalvin at afilias.info>; Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
>>> *Subject:* Engagement on DNS Abuse
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Bruna,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope you?re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out
>>> to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as
>>> we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach
>>> to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously
>>> noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse
>>> <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf>
>>> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam
>>> when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS
>>> Abuse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear
>>> suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to
>>> mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse
>>> questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to
>>> discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions
>>> on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our
>>> discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse
>>> levels?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the NCSG?s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join
>>> us.  Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please
>>> propose a Tuesday when you are available.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith Drazek
>>>
>>> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
>>>
>>> Verisign, Inc.
>>>
>>> +1-571-377-9182
>>>
>>> Kdrazek at verisign.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos  *
>>>
>>> Advocacy Coordinator | Data Privacy Brazil Research
>>> <https://www.dataprivacybr.org/en/>
>>>
>>> Member | Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>> Chair | Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN
>>> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg>
>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>> bruna.martinsantos
>>> bruna at dataprivacybr.org and bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>
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>> Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>> GNSO Councilor - ICANN
>> Civil Soc. Rep - CODECTI  (Comit? Departamental de Ciencia Tecnolog?a e Innovaci?n)
>> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>> Registered Linux User No.533108.
>>
>>
>> Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>> Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas
>>
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