[NCSG-PC] Engagement on DNS Abuse

Mon Feb 1 10:51:08 EET 2021

I agree we need an internal group to establish a position - this is a complex history with a lot of history. I agree it is a good opportunity for newer volunteers work alongside old hands. 

I would be interested in both being part of an internal discussion group, and engaging with the CPH once we have had that discussion.

It is worth noting that now that Amr is in the CPH he could be a useful sounding board, as he still has close links with many of us, and understands the issues from both sides. 

David

> On 27 Jan 2021, at 2:48 am, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thank you Bruna for sharing this. 
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> I agree we need a small group to discuss and form an official NCSG position on DNS abuse. This will both guide our members who volunteer to the CPH WG and how we engage in general with the rest of the community on this topic. A spelled out position will also enable us to have non-experienced volunteers be a bit confident to work on the topic along-side experienced volunteers. Forming an opinion on how NCSG views a specific issue is often a big challenge for non-experienced volunteers and newcomers. This will go a long way in helping more people get involved and it is our job as policy committee to lead this.
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> I would be interested in a call with CPH on this topic once we are in sync internally on what our position is.
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> Tomslin
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> On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 16:51, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear PC, 
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> I just shared the CPH WG on DNS Abuse on the list, but am sharing Keith's email below with you all. It would be really important for us to form a little group to discuss whether we can achieve a NCSG position on the topic and engage with the community about it. 
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> This is an issue that Rafik has brought to our attention to before but we never really managed to set forth. Last year we were even planning on organizing a webinar on this topic, maybe this is something we can bring back to our plans in anticipation for icann 70. 
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> Apart from the webinar, I would kindly ask you to  let me know if you would be interested in setting a call with the CPH WG. 
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> best, 
> Bruna 
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> From: Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:kdrazek at verisign.com>>
> Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 5:44 PM
> Subject: Engagement on DNS Abuse
> To: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
> Cc: Brian F. Cimbolic <BCimbolic at pir.org <mailto:BCimbolic at pir.org>>, Jim Galvin <jgalvin at afilias.info <mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info>>, Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com <mailto:gbunton at tucows.com>>
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> Hello Bruna,
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> I hope you’re doing well and staying healthy and safe. I am reaching out to you on behalf of the Contracted Party House DNS Abuse Working Group as we look ahead to ICANN 70 and the rest of 2021.
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> The Contracted Party House (CPH) DNS Abuse Group is conducting outreach to our friends in other SO/AC/SG/Cs regarding DNS Abuse. As previously noted by the CPH, DNS Abuse <https://rrsg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/CPH-Definition-of-DNS-Abuse.pdf> comprises five categories: phishing, pharming, malware, botnets, and spam when it acts as a delivery mechanism for one of the other forms of DNS Abuse.
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> We want to open a more direct dialogue to understand pain points, hear suggestions and identify common ground where we can work together to mitigate DNS Abuse.  Is there a subset of the NCSG focusing on DNS Abuse questions that would be able to join the CPH DNS Abuse group on a call to discuss this topic? We want to encourage frank and productive discussions  on the topic that lead to really informing our dialogues and actions.
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> As a starting point, we propose the following questions to guide our discussion.  Are there any questions NCSG would like discuss?:
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> What information do you use and how do you use it to assess DNS Abuse levels?
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> What are the NCSG’s pain points regarding DNS Abuse?
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> Are you seeing practices from registrars or registries you find helpful?
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> Please let us know if a subgroup of the NCSG would be willing to join us.  Our group meets regularly on Tuesdays at 1500 UTC.  If so, please propose a Tuesday when you are available.
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> Best regards,
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> Keith
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> Keith Drazek
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> Vice President, Public Policy & Government Relations
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> Verisign, Inc.
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> +1-571-377-9182
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> Kdrazek at verisign.com <mailto:Kdrazek at verisign.com>
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> -- 
> Bruna Martins dos Santos 
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> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
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