From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Tue Jan 7 01:51:36 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 08:51:36 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Replacement in SSC and EPDP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, resending this as we need to act quickly. EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. Best, Rafik Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs > to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: > 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started > and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint > a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers > but more important encouraging more people to apply. > 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we > currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become > representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking > previous call) and get this done. > the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in > LA as some members won't be there. > > representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in > as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. > > Best, > > Rafik > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Thu Jan 9 19:17:07 2020 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:17:07 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Running the process to select replacements for GNSO.council Message-ID: <9e0b57f6-6fdc-e919-7296-53f02480ef9a@mail.utoronto.ca> It has been brought to my attention that there is considerable criticism of the manner in which I issued a call for interest in replacing Farzi on Council. Given this lack of satisfaction in the process, which closed on December 28, I am proposing to: 1). reissue the call for candidates, using as a template the letter sent out in 2017, which apparently was correctly done. That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. I was unaware that the wiki I was pointing at in that call for replacements was inaccurate, indeed some of our councillors were unaware of the implications of their selection of region. 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Given this lack of satisfaction in the process, which closed on December 28, I am proposing to: > > 1). reissue the call for candidates, using as a template the letter sent out in 2017, which apparently was correctly done. That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. > > 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. > > I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. I was unaware that the wiki I was pointing at in that call for replacements was inaccurate, indeed some of our councillors were unaware of the implications of their selection of region. > > So as soon as I find the model letter to the NCSG list, I will send the updated version to you for approval > > Kind regards, > > Stephanie Perrin > > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. > > 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. > > I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. I was unaware that the wiki I was pointing at in that call for replacements was inaccurate, indeed some of our councillors were unaware of the implications of their selection of region. > > So as soon as I find the model letter to the NCSG list, I will send the updated version to you for approval > > Kind regards, > > Stephanie Perrin > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com Thu Jan 9 19:31:51 2020 From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 14:31:51 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Running the process to select replacements for GNSO.council In-Reply-To: <8FEF5906-53C6-47C1-93AB-636CEB43DA75@ipjustice.org> References: <9e0b57f6-6fdc-e919-7296-53f02480ef9a@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FEF5906-53C6-47C1-93AB-636CEB43DA75@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: It probably is, and it should be done sooner than later. > On 9 Jan 2020, at 14:30, Robin Gross wrote: > > I think this was mistakingly sent to the PC instead of the EC (as this is an EC decision)? > > Thanks, > Robin > >> On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:17 AM, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >> >> It has been brought to my attention that there is considerable criticism of the manner in which I issued a call for interest in replacing Farzi on Council. Given this lack of satisfaction in the process, which closed on December 28, I am proposing to: >> >> 1). reissue the call for candidates, using as a template the letter sent out in 2017, which apparently was correctly done. That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. >> >> 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. >> >> I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. 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URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Thu Jan 9 19:32:46 2020 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 17:32:46 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Running the process to select replacements for GNSO.council In-Reply-To: <8FEF5906-53C6-47C1-93AB-636CEB43DA75@ipjustice.org> References: <9e0b57f6-6fdc-e919-7296-53f02480ef9a@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FEF5906-53C6-47C1-93AB-636CEB43DA75@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <61d5ff37-baf1-ce4d-5bce-1d481e7395c1@mail.utoronto.ca> Sent to both, because the Council members need to know there will be a delay. I am looking for feedback from anyone who is interested in helping me make the next call perfect, also. Cheers Stephanie On 2020-01-09 12:30, Robin Gross wrote: I think this was mistakingly sent to the PC instead of the EC (as this is an EC decision)? Thanks, Robin On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:17 AM, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: It has been brought to my attention that there is considerable criticism of the manner in which I issued a call for interest in replacing Farzi on Council. Given this lack of satisfaction in the process, which closed on December 28, I am proposing to: 1). reissue the call for candidates, using as a template the letter sent out in 2017, which apparently was correctly done. That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. I was unaware that the wiki I was pointing at in that call for replacements was inaccurate, indeed some of our councillors were unaware of the implications of their selection of region. So as soon as I find the model letter to the NCSG list, I will send the updated version to you for approval Kind regards, Stephanie Perrin _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carlosraul at gutierrez.se Thu Jan 9 20:25:57 2020 From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 12:25:57 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Running the process to select replacements for GNSO.council In-Reply-To: <61d5ff37-baf1-ce4d-5bce-1d481e7395c1@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <9e0b57f6-6fdc-e919-7296-53f02480ef9a@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FEF5906-53C6-47C1-93AB-636CEB43DA75@ipjustice.org> <61d5ff37-baf1-ce4d-5bce-1d481e7395c1@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <717d76b610c142b107c5f1e8b6bd5d97@gutierrez.se> Txs Steph! Look forward to the call ASAP...... --- Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se +506 8837 7176 Aparatado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA El 2020-01-09 11:32, Stephanie Perrin escribi?: > Sent to both, because the Council members need to know there will be a delay. I am looking for feedback from anyone who is interested in helping me make the next call perfect, also. > > Cheers Stephanie > > On 2020-01-09 12:30, Robin Gross wrote: I think this was mistakingly sent to the PC instead of the EC (as this is an EC decision)? > > Thanks, > Robin > > On Jan 9, 2020, at 9:17 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > It has been brought to my attention that there is considerable criticism of the manner in which I issued a call for interest in replacing Farzi on Council. Given this lack of satisfaction in the process, which closed on December 28, I am proposing to: > > 1). reissue the call for candidates, using as a template the letter sent out in 2017, which apparently was correctly done. That letter will be sent to the NCSG-EC for its approval. > > 2). I suggest a short timeline for the next call, given that we are late for the next council meeting we have missed the opportunity to get our replacement councillors to Cancun unless deadlines are waived, and there is a GNSO meeting in Los ANgeles that the replacement will be unable to attend other than remotely. > > I am sorry that I misinterpreted the response to that call as a total rejection of what I was doing. It really helps if people talk to me when there is a problem, so if you have any proposals regarding this process, the next letter calling for expressions of interest, and the potential timelines, I would be most receptive to hearing them at your earliest convenience. I was unaware that the wiki I was pointing at in that call for replacements was inaccurate, indeed some of our councillors were unaware of the implications of their selection of region. > > So as soon as I find the model letter to the NCSG list, I will send the updated version to you for approval > > Kind regards, > > Stephanie Perrin > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com Sat Jan 11 01:25:38 2020 From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:25:38 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Resignation letter, from the 1st of February 2020 and forward, to GNSO Council and NCSG membership Message-ID: <037204AC-0146-4097-BC48-7D49D6BB0AD3@gmail.com> Dear all, With great regret, hereby, from the 1st of February 2020 and forward, I resign my position as GNSO Councilor on behalf of the NCSG. I will also remove my individual NCSG membership after that date and become a passive reader in all ICANN list that I don?t explicitly unsubscribe, on the other hand, the NGO I represent, Datas (www.dat.as), will remain with other representatives. Until that date, I will continue as normal. This decision has no specific motive other than I cannot continue working at ICANN as a volunteer philanthropist, for free with no job behind it nor funds to justify it. Especially considering I been uninterruptedly working in that condition for over 6 years with ICANN. Starting as an NCSG-NCUC member back in 2013, later a Fellow, then an NCSG-NPOC member, NPOC Secretariat, NPOC Vice-Chair, Fellowship Mentor and GNSO Councilor. Always working with Intellectual Property, Data, and Human Rights issues. I would love to come back, but not anymore as a philanthropic for-free professional. Time will tell, I am always open for opportunities. I will continue to develop the Technology Governance and Tech Policy issues we have been dealing with over the years at Datas, like Internet Governance, Innovation, and Algorithm Governance. I will also continue my work as a business lawyer and business developer (www.silva.legal , www.metrospaces.com , www.casavisconti.mx , www.ikal.wine , and others). This year I will also be finishing the Executive MBA that I started last year at University Torcuato Di Tella (right now with an ongoing thesis in Blockchain DNS Governance thanks to my experience at Fuqua School of Business at Duke University). I am probably also going to cut in half my teaching at the University of Palermo, where this past semester I taught three Technology Law courses in Grade and Master at Computer Engineering to only a class at the Constitutional Law Master. I will continue doing the research and publishing papers. I thank you all for the hard work, the trust, the friendship. It was a pleasure sharing this space. I hope I find you all around the world, you are all welcome in Buenos Aires, let me know if you come this way. You can all find me at martin at silva.legal , martin.silva at dat.as , Skype ID: mpsilvavalent, linkedin.com/in/martinsilvavalent/ , don?t hesitate to reach out for friendship, a helping hand or any ideas you want to share or work with me. All are welcomed. Best regards, Martin Silva Valent Partner | Silva.legal martin at silva.legal Director | Dat.as martin.silva at dat.as Skype ID: mpsilvavalent Tel: +5491164993943 Libertador 5990, Off. 406 Buenos Aires, Argentina. Este email, incluyendo adjuntos, podr?a contener informaci?n confidencial protegida por ley y es para uso exclusivo de su destinatario. Si Ud. no es el destinatario, se le advierte que cualquier uso, difusi?n, copia o retenci?n de este email o su contenido est? estrictamente prohibido. Si Ud. recibi? este email por error, por favor avise inmediatamente al remitente por tel?fono o email y borre el mismo de su computadora. / This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. 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I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. Best, Rafik Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > Hi all, > > resending this as we need to act quickly. > EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives > since some members won't be able to attend. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > >> Hi all, >> >> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started >> and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint >> a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers >> but more important encouraging more people to apply. >> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >> previous call) and get this done. >> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting >> in LA as some members won't be there. >> >> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in >> as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 15:28:04 2020 From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:28:04 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Replacement in SSC and EPDP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Totally agree. Send all the calls asap. Best, Martin On Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 9:19 PM Rafik Dammak wrote: > hi all, > > I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act > quickly. > I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because > the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I > will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no > objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > >> Hi all, >> >> resending this as we need to act quickly. >> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives >> since some members won't be able to attend. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started >>> and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint >>> a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers >>> but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>> previous call) and get this done. >>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting >>> in LA as some members won't be there. >>> >>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in >>> as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Rafik ps for SSC, we can handle that later. Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : > Agree > > > > Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez > > On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > hi all, > > I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act > quickly. > I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because > the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I > will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no > objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > > Hi all, > > resending this as we need to act quickly. > EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives > since some members won't be able to attend. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > > Hi all, > > I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs > to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: > 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started > and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint > a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers > but more important encouraging more people to apply. > 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we > currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become > representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking > previous call) and get this done. > the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in > LA as some members won't be there. > > representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in > as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com Wed Jan 15 03:12:14 2020 From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 22:12:14 -0300 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent] Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: <466D3E61-3DB8-4C09-90D3-68293508890F@gmail.com> 0 objection, full endorsement. Mart?n > On 14 Jan 2020, at 21:15, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Thanks Martian and Carlos. > I updated the call for candidates here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . please review it. > if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ps for SSC, we can handle that later. > > Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, > a ?crit : > Agree > > > > Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez > > On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak > wrote: > hi all, > > I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly. > I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : > Hi all, > > resending this as we need to act quickly. > EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: > 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. > 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done. > the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there. > > representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. > > Best, > > Rafik > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng Wed Jan 15 09:17:27 2020 From: oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng (oreoluwa) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 08:17:27 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent] Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: <466D3E61-3DB8-4C09-90D3-68293508890F@gmail.com> Message-ID: No objections from me!!OreSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Martin Pablo Silva Valent Date: 15/01/2020 02:13 (GMT+01:00) To: Rafik Dammak Cc: ncsg-pc Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent] Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft 0 objection, full endorsement.Mart?nOn 14 Jan 2020, at 21:15, Rafik Dammak wrote:Thanks Martian and Carlos.I updated the call for candidates here?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit?. please review it.if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday.Best,Rafikps for SSC, we can handle that later.Le?lun. 13 janv. 2020 ??22:36, a ?crit?:AgreeThanks Rafik!? Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrezOn Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote:hi all,I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly.?I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday.Best,RafikLe?mar. 7 janv. 2020 ??08:51, Rafik Dammak a ?crit?:Hi all,resending this as we need to act quickly.EPDP will have?its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have?few representatives since some members won't be able to attend.Best,RafikLe?sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ??08:23, Rafik Dammak a ?crit?:Hi all,I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning?from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP:1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply.?2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done.the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there.representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January.Best,Rafik _______________________________________________NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Thu Jan 16 01:34:14 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 08:34:14 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Agenda for NCSG Monthly Policy Call 17th Jan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all I am sharing here the NCSG Policy call draft agenda scheduled in friday 17th Jan (choosing friday is due to that next week council will have SPS meeting and people will be travelling on that time). We have at motion for vote for council meeting regarding the IGO-INGO track. Feel free to amend or suggest another item to the agenda. I. Introduction II. GNSO Council Call Preparation - Council agenda: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf III. Policy Update - Policy topics: * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM - Public comments status: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public & list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 IV. Others TBC Best Regards, Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Thu Jan 16 06:44:37 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:44:37 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the option to support. Best, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message --------- De : Thato Mfikwe Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22 Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group To: Dear members, This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds . It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our comment . This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished, we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions: 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not. 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please specify what changes concern you and why? 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider, that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for submission to the Chartering Organizations? NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds. *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)* *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in December 2018 , which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.* Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time within ICANN the organisation. Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish these funds. * Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the CEO and Board. Mechanisms in summary under review: *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization. *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which collaborates with an existing non-profit. *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds. *Question 2 (Any other concerns)* A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely: - Efficiency and effectiveness - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money) - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating costs) - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down) - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund distribution for projects - Administrative complexity to run - Means for oversight - Providing transparency and accountability - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund allocation - Risk According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction Proceeds. *Question 3 (Any other considerations)* >From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the allocation of Auction Proceeds. 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Feel free to amend or suggest another item to the agenda. > > I. Introduction > II. GNSO Council Call Preparation > Council agenda: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf? > III. Policy Update > - Policy topics: > * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM > - Public comments status: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public & list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 > > IV. Others > TBC > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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GNSO Council Call Preparation > > * Council agenda: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf [1] > > III. Policy Update > > - Policy topics: > > * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM > - Public comments status: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public & list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 > > IV. Others > TBC > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc Links: ------ [1] https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org Fri Jan 17 13:22:23 2020 From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:22:23 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda for NCSG Monthly Policy Call 17th Jan In-Reply-To: <94dadd2a2b3300c446a12e775148d626@gutierrez.se> References: , <94dadd2a2b3300c446a12e775148d626@gutierrez.se> Message-ID: Dear Carlos, Meeting time is 1300 UTC and ZOOM: https://icann.zoom.us/j/706692633?pwd=VGhURStQK2RYWGErN2VKODkzVW93dz09 ? Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777? On 17 Jan 2020, at 01:37, Carlos Raul Gutierrez wrote: ? Please confirm time and zoom txs --- Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se +506 8837 7176 Aparatado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA El 2020-01-15 17:34, Rafik Dammak escribi?: Hi all I am sharing here the NCSG Policy call draft agenda scheduled in friday 17th Jan (choosing friday is due to that next week council will have SPS meeting and people will be travelling on that time). We have at motion for vote for council meeting regarding the IGO-INGO track. Feel free to amend or suggest another item to the agenda. I. Introduction II. GNSO Council Call Preparation * Council agenda: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf [gnso.icann.org] III. Policy Update - Policy topics: * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM - Public comments status: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public [icann.org] & list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 IV. Others TBC Best Regards, Rafik _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc [lists.ncsg.is] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From farell at benin2point0.org Sat Jan 18 12:09:41 2020 From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 11:09:41 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Agenda for NCSG Monthly Policy Call 17th Jan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EFDE84F-6888-4DFB-9E2F-5EF6BD10FF3F@benin2point0.org> I am sorry to have missed this, I was on a long-distance flight. I will listen to the audio. @__f_f__ Best Regards ____________________________________ (Ekue) Farell FOLLY NCUC Rep. to the NCSG Policy Committee linkedin.com/in/farellf > On 16 Jan 2020, at 00:34, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi all > > I am sharing here the NCSG Policy call draft agenda scheduled in friday 17th Jan (choosing friday is due to that next week council will have SPS meeting and people will be travelling on that time). We have at motion for vote for council meeting regarding the IGO-INGO track. Feel free to amend or suggest another item to the agenda. > > I. Introduction > II. GNSO Council Call Preparation > Council agenda: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-23jan20-en.pdf? > III. Policy Update > - Policy topics: > * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM > - Public comments status: https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public & list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 > > IV. Others > TBC > > Best Regards, > > Rafik > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Wed Jan 22 18:00:19 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 01:00:19 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi all, the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. looking for ideas and suggestions. Best, Rafik Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > Thanks Martian and Carlos. > I updated the call for candidates here > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . > please review it. > if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this > wednesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ps for SSC, we can handle that later. > > Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : > >> Agree >> >> >> >> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >> >> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >> >> hi all, >> >> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >> quickly. >> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >> Tuesday. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> resending this as we need to act quickly. >> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives >> since some members won't be able to attend. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started >> and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint >> a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers >> but more important encouraging more people to apply. >> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >> previous call) and get this done. >> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting >> in LA as some members won't be there. >> >> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in >> as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elsa.saade at gmail.com Thu Jan 23 19:36:45 2020 From: elsa.saade at gmail.com (Elsa S) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 12:36:45 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hey Rafik, Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? E. -- On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi all, > > the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one > prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation > of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative > in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. > > I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for > candidates and do proactive recruitment. > > looking for ideas and suggestions. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > >> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >> I updated the call for candidates here >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >> please review it. >> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this >> wednesday. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >> >> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >> >>> Agree >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>> >>> hi all, >>> >>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>> quickly. >>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>> Tuesday. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a >>> ?crit : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives >>> since some members won't be able to attend. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a >>> ?crit : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started >>> and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint >>> a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers >>> but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>> previous call) and get this done. >>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting >>> in LA as some members won't be there. >>> >>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in >>> as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Thu Jan 23 19:42:27 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:42:27 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: hi, we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement effective and useful. Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : > Hey Rafik, > > Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? > > E. > -- > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one >> prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation >> of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative >> in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >> >> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call >> for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >> >> looking for ideas and suggestions. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> >> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>> I updated the call for candidates here >>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>> please review it. >>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>> this wednesday. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>> >>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>> >>>> Agree >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>> >>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>> >>>> hi all, >>>> >>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>>> quickly. >>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>> Tuesday. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started >>>> and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint >>>> a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers >>>> but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting >>>> in LA as some members won't be there. >>>> >>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump >>>> in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > > -- > -- > > Elsa Saade > Consultant > Gulf Centre for Human Rights > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Mon Jan 27 03:44:29 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:44:29 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi all, so we got one application and David expressed interest to be representative (but without submitting any application) we need to make decision here: - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application with PC members for review. - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to have a larger pool of candidates? Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > hi, > > we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking > into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement > effective and useful. > > Best, > > Rafik > Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : > >> Hey Rafik, >> >> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >> >> E. >> -- >> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one >>> prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation >>> of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative >>> in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>> >>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call >>> for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>> >>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a >>> ?crit : >>> >>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>> please review it. >>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>> this wednesday. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>> >>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> Agree >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>>>> quickly. >>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>> Tuesday. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a >>>>> ?crit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a >>>>> ?crit : >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>>>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>> >>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump >>>>> in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> >> Elsa Saade >> Consultant >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com Mon Jan 27 10:51:08 2020 From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:51:08 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Rafik, one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a decision if application fits for purpose. Thanks! Cheers, Tanya On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi all, > > so we got one application and David expressed interest to be > representative (but without submitting any application) > we need to make decision here: > - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application > with PC members for review. > - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to > have a larger pool of candidates? > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a > ?crit : > >> hi, >> >> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking >> into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >> effective and useful. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >> >>> Hey Rafik, >>> >>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>> >>> E. >>> -- >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>> >>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call >>>> for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>> >>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> >>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>> please review it. >>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>>> this wednesday. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>> >>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Agree >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>>>>> quickly. >>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>>>>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump >>>>>> in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> >>> Elsa Saade >>> Consultant >>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>> >> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Mon Jan 27 11:38:42 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 01:38:42 -0800 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi, Email announcing Stefan as ncsg rep was sent on 20 december to epdp list, so the information was already shared. I think he is already attending the calls if I am not mistaking. Best, Rafik On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 17:51 Tatiana Tropina wrote: > Rafik, > one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, > right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. > I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the > call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a > signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a > decision if application fits for purpose. > Thanks! > Cheers, > Tanya > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> so we got one application and David expressed interest to be >> representative (but without submitting any application) >> we need to make decision here: >> - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application >> with PC members for review. >> - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply >> to have a larger pool of candidates? >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >>> hi, >>> >>> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking >>> into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >>> effective and useful. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >>> >>>> Hey Rafik, >>>> >>>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>>> >>>> E. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call >>>>> for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>>> >>>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak >>>>> a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>>> please review it. >>>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>>>> this wednesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>>> >>>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Agree >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>>>>>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to >>>>>>> jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Elsa Saade >>>> Consultant >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Mon Jan 27 15:58:03 2020 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 13:58:03 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I can do so at the meeting.. I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. Cheers Steph On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Rafik, one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a decision if application fits for purpose. Thanks! Cheers, Tanya On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, so we got one application and David expressed interest to be representative (but without submitting any application) we need to make decision here: - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application with PC members for review. - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to have a larger pool of candidates? Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : hi, we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement effective and useful. Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S > a ?crit : Hey Rafik, Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? E. -- On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. looking for ideas and suggestions. Best, Rafik Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Thanks Martian and Carlos. I updated the call for candidates here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . please review it. if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday. Best, Rafik ps for SSC, we can handle that later. Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, > a ?crit : Agree Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak > wrote: hi all, I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly. I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. Best, Rafik Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, resending this as we need to act quickly. EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. Best, Rafik Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done. the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there. representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carlosraul at gutierrez.se Mon Jan 27 18:40:05 2020 From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:40:05 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: +1 open with a new (short) deadline --- Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se +506 8837 7176 Aparatado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA El 2020-01-27 07:58, Stephanie Perrin escribi?: > We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I can do so at the meeting.. > > I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. > > Cheers Steph > > On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: > Rafik, > one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. > I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a decision if application fits for purpose. > Thanks! > Cheers, > Tanya > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi all, > > so we got one application and David expressed interest to be representative (but without submitting any application) > we need to make decision here: > - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application with PC members for review. > - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to have a larger pool of candidates? > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > > hi, > > we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement effective and useful. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : > > Hey Rafik, > > Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? > > E. > -- > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi all, > > the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. > > I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. > > looking for ideas and suggestions. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > > Thanks Martian and Carlos. > I updated the call for candidates here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . please review it. > if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > ps for SSC, we can handle that later. > > Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : > Agree > > Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez > > On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > hi all, > > I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly. > I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > > Hi all, > > resending this as we need to act quickly. > EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > Hi all, > > I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: > 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. > 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done. > the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there. > > representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. > > Best, > > Rafik _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Mon Jan 27 23:29:32 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 06:29:32 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: Hi Stephanie, Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that in epdp team list last month.... Best, Rafik Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : > We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I can > do so at the meeting.. > > I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because > people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some > fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not > over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of > watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone > shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. > > Cheers Steph > On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: > > Rafik, > one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, > right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. > I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the > call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a > signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a > decision if application fits for purpose. > Thanks! > Cheers, > Tanya > > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> so we got one application and David expressed interest to be >> representative (but without submitting any application) >> we need to make decision here: >> - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application >> with PC members for review. >> - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply >> to have a larger pool of candidates? >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a >> ?crit : >> >>> hi, >>> >>> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking >>> into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >>> effective and useful. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >>> >>>> Hey Rafik, >>>> >>>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>>> >>>> E. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call >>>>> for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>>> >>>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak >>>>> a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>>> please review it. >>>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>>>> this wednesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>>> >>>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Agree >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act >>>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore >>>>>>> needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to >>>>>>> jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Elsa Saade >>>> Consultant >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Tue Jan 28 00:14:50 2020 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:14:50 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> Message-ID: <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> Good, that is what I thought had already happened, I will nudge the secs to change the names on the list. Do we have a decision on opening the call again? we still need two people On 2020-01-27 16:29, Rafik Dammak wrote: Hi Stephanie, Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that in epdp team list last month.... Best, Rafik Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin > a ?crit : We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I can do so at the meeting.. I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. Cheers Steph On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Rafik, one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a decision if application fits for purpose. Thanks! Cheers, Tanya On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, so we got one application and David expressed interest to be representative (but without submitting any application) we need to make decision here: - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application with PC members for review. - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to have a larger pool of candidates? Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : hi, we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement effective and useful. Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S > a ?crit : Hey Rafik, Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? E. -- On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. looking for ideas and suggestions. Best, Rafik Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Thanks Martian and Carlos. I updated the call for candidates here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . please review it. if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday. Best, Rafik ps for SSC, we can handle that later. Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, > a ?crit : Agree Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak > wrote: hi all, I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly. I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. Best, Rafik Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, resending this as we need to act quickly. EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. Best, Rafik Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done. the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there. representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. 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URL: From elsa.saade at gmail.com Tue Jan 28 01:27:43 2020 From: elsa.saade at gmail.com (Elsa S) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:27:43 -0500 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: I would definitely support opening the call again! And to feed Steph?s point of transitions and new blood, I think it would be good to introduce a parallel monthly meeting for NCSG inreach and general strategy asides from policy calls. Best, Elsa ? On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:15 PM Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > Good, that is what I thought had already happened, I will nudge the secs > to change the names on the list. > > Do we have a decision on opening the call again? we still need two people > On 2020-01-27 16:29, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi Stephanie, > > Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that > in epdp team list last month.... > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin < > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : > >> We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I >> can do so at the meeting.. >> >> I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because >> people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some >> fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not >> over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of >> watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone >> shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. >> >> Cheers Steph >> On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: >> >> Rafik, >> one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, >> right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. >> I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening >> the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and >> send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such >> a decision if application fits for purpose. >> Thanks! >> Cheers, >> Tanya >> >> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> so we got one application and David expressed interest to be >>> representative (but without submitting any application) >>> we need to make decision here: >>> - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application >>> with PC members for review. >>> - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply >>> to have a larger pool of candidates? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a >>> ?crit : >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap >>>> taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >>>> effective and useful. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> Hey Rafik, >>>>> >>>>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>>>> >>>>> E. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the >>>>>> call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>>>> >>>>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak >>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>>>> please review it. >>>>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>>>>> this wednesday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Agree >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to >>>>>>>> act quickly. >>>>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and >>>>>>>> therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to >>>>>>>> jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Elsa Saade >>>>> Consultant >>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -- -- Elsa Saade Consultant Gulf Centre for Human Rights Twitter: @Elsa_Saade -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Tue Jan 28 01:32:14 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:32:14 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Hi, I think PC members should review the application we received anyway to have an idea about the candidate and acknowledge the reception. We can open the call for candidates in coming days. Best, Rafik Le mar. 28 janv. 2020 ? 07:14, Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : > Good, that is what I thought had already happened, I will nudge the secs > to change the names on the list. > > Do we have a decision on opening the call again? we still need two people > On 2020-01-27 16:29, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi Stephanie, > > Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that > in epdp team list last month.... > > Best, > > Rafik > > Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin < > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : > >> We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I >> can do so at the meeting.. >> >> I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because >> people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some >> fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not >> over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of >> watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone >> shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. >> >> Cheers Steph >> On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: >> >> Rafik, >> one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, >> right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. >> I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening >> the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and >> send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such >> a decision if application fits for purpose. >> Thanks! >> Cheers, >> Tanya >> >> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> so we got one application and David expressed interest to be >>> representative (but without submitting any application) >>> we need to make decision here: >>> - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application >>> with PC members for review. >>> - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply >>> to have a larger pool of candidates? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a >>> ?crit : >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap >>>> taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >>>> effective and useful. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >>>> >>>>> Hey Rafik, >>>>> >>>>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>>>> >>>>> E. >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the >>>>>> call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>>>> >>>>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Rafik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak >>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>>>> please review it. >>>>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates >>>>>>> this wednesday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Agree >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to >>>>>>>> act quickly. >>>>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and >>>>>>>> therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to >>>>>>>> jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Elsa Saade >>>>> Consultant >>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do we have a decision on opening the call again? we still need two people On 2020-01-27 16:29, Rafik Dammak wrote: Hi Stephanie, Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that in epdp team list last month.... Best, Rafik Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin > a ?crit : We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I can do so at the meeting.. I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle because people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need some fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is not over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. Cheers Steph On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: Rafik, one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such a decision if application fits for purpose. Thanks! Cheers, Tanya On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, so we got one application and David expressed interest to be representative (but without submitting any application) we need to make decision here: - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application with PC members for review. - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply to have a larger pool of candidates? Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : hi, we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement effective and useful. Best, Rafik Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S > a ?crit : Hey Rafik, Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? E. -- On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak > wrote: Hi all, the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. looking for ideas and suggestions. Best, Rafik Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Thanks Martian and Carlos. I updated the call for candidates here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . please review it. if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for candidates this wednesday. Best, Rafik ps for SSC, we can handle that later. Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, > a ?crit : Agree Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak > wrote: hi all, I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to act quickly. I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on Tuesday. Best, Rafik Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, resending this as we need to act quickly. EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few representatives since some members won't be able to attend. Best, Rafik Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak > a ?crit : Hi all, I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking previous call) and get this done. the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F meeting in LA as some members won't be there. representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. 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URL: From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com Tue Jan 28 01:48:33 2020 From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 00:48:33 +0100 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Status of Replacement EPDP, call for volunteers draft In-Reply-To: References: <5d04659c-e8b0-4529-9e00-66ce54cad4b4@email.android.com> <557fd7fc-cbbd-8505-c9cf-ca8bdca85036@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Rafik, I agree with you. That?s what I was trying to say earlier: even if we reopen the call (I fully support this), let?s review the application we received anyway. Agree with Elsa?s suggestion about in reach strategy. I guess it?s time for us to re-group and mobilize again. Cheers, Tanya On Tue 28. Jan 2020 at 00:30, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi, > > I think PC members should review the application we received anyway to > have an idea about the candidate and acknowledge the reception. We can open > the call for candidates in coming days. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > Le mar. 28 janv. 2020 ? 07:14, Stephanie Perrin < > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : > >> Good, that is what I thought had already happened, I will nudge the secs >> to change the names on the list. >> >> Do we have a decision on opening the call again? we still need two people >> On 2020-01-27 16:29, Rafik Dammak wrote: >> >> Hi Stephanie, >> >> Stefan was already moved to be main representative and you announced that >> in epdp team list last month.... >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> Le lun. 27 janv. 2020 ? 22:58, Stephanie Perrin < >> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> a ?crit : >> >>> We agreed a long time ago on Stefan, i think we need to name him and I >>> can do so at the meeting.. >>> >>> I think we should open up for other candidates, both on principle >>> because people are not paying attention to deadlines, and because we need >>> some fresh blood in here. And I don't mean on the floor. This thing is >>> not over, we may be striking a permanent committee that will take a lot of >>> watching because of what is being punted into it. Some of us will be gone >>> shortly, we need a transition team who can take over. >>> >>> Cheers Steph >>> On 2020-01-27 03:51, Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>> >>> Rafik, >>> one question: has Stefan already become a full member from alternate, >>> right? I don't see his name on the EPDP wiki page. >>> I guess it would be good to see the application we received -- opening >>> the call for another 2-3 weeks might discourage that applicant a lot and >>> send a signal about their lack of competence. I would rather not take such >>> a decision if application fits for purpose. >>> Thanks! >>> Cheers, >>> Tanya >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 02:44, Rafik Dammak >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> so we got one application and David expressed interest to be >>>> representative (but without submitting any application) >>>> we need to make decision here: >>>> - are we ok with current situation? if so I will share the application >>>> with PC members for review. >>>> - shall we expand the call for volunteers AND encourage people to apply >>>> to have a larger pool of candidates? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:42, Rafik Dammak a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> >>>>> we don't have a formal deadline but we need to get this done asap >>>>> taking into account the progress at EPDP level in order to get replacement >>>>> effective and useful. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rafik >>>>> Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 ? 02:37, Elsa S a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Rafik, >>>>>> >>>>>> Till when do we have to come through with a replacement? >>>>>> >>>>>> E. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Rafik Dammak >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the deadline for submission already passed. The situation is we have >>>>>>> one prospective candidate but who didn't send application yet because >>>>>>> creation of SOI. I also saw that David expressed interest to become >>>>>>> representative in NCSG list but he didn't send any formal application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure what we can really do here other than extending the >>>>>>> call for candidates and do proactive recruitment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> looking for ideas and suggestions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 ? 09:15, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Martian and Carlos. >>>>>>>> I updated the call for candidates here >>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Wx--en0ZEtbghNaENPsbquR31vufC74cYnfhrQ_FAEE/edit . >>>>>>>> please review it. >>>>>>>> if there is no strong objection, I will send the call for >>>>>>>> candidates this wednesday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ps for SSC, we can handle that later. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 ? 22:36, a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Agree >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Rafik! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2020 19:19, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not getting input or feedback on this matter but we need to >>>>>>>>> act quickly. >>>>>>>>> I am proposing to make a short call for interest for EPDP position >>>>>>>>> because the urgency to get a a representative and add an alternate to the >>>>>>>>> group. I will use the previous call with only tweak on the dates. if there >>>>>>>>> is no objection within today, I will send the call for volunteers on >>>>>>>>> Tuesday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le mar. 7 janv. 2020 ? 08:51, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> resending this as we need to act quickly. >>>>>>>>> EPDP will have its F2F in 2 weeks and NCSG will have few >>>>>>>>> representatives since some members won't be able to attend. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 08:23, Rafik Dammak >>>>>>>>> a ?crit : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was informed by Ayden that he is resigning from NCSG and >>>>>>>>> therefore needs to be replaced in SSC and EPDP: >>>>>>>>> 1- we didn't have extra application for SSC. The committee just >>>>>>>>> started and Sam recused himself from the first selection . We will need to >>>>>>>>> appoint a replacement for Ayden soon. We can reuse the previous call for >>>>>>>>> volunteers but more important encouraging more people to apply. >>>>>>>>> 2- we were discussing about EPDP composition in another thread. we >>>>>>>>> currently have 2 alternates only and not sure if they want to become >>>>>>>>> representative. We will need another call for volunteers(again tweaking >>>>>>>>> previous call) and get this done. >>>>>>>>> the big concern is that NCSG will be thinly represented for F2F >>>>>>>>> meeting in LA as some members won't be there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> representative/alternate needs to catch-up a lot and be ready to >>>>>>>>> jump in as the team is working toward the initial report for end of January. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rafik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Elsa Saade >>>>>> Consultant >>>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights >>>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NCSG-PC mailing list >>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc >>> >> _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;) Comment Here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit Best Regards, -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Wed Jan 29 00:54:52 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 07:54:52 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, Welcome the new NCUC representatuves to PC , Olga and Liz . I want to thank Farell and Claudio for their service (pf course Farell staying with us as councillor :)) Maryam will add them to mailing list and update related pages. Best, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Bruna Martins dos Santos Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 07:49 Subject: Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. To: Rafik Dammak , Stephanie Perrin < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> Cc: Louise Marie Hurel Dear Rafik and Stephanie, NCUC would like to inform that the names of it's two appointees to the NCSG Policy committee are Liz Orembo and Olga Kyryliuk. We have already informed the list and the two appointees. Best regards, Bruna Santos ---------- Forwarded message --------- De: Bruna Martins dos Santos Date: ter, 28 de jan de 2020 18:03 Subject: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. To: NCUC Discuss Cc: Liz Orembo , Olga Kyryliuk Dear NCUC, As you might know NCUC were looking for two new appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. After opening a call for volunteers in 2019, NCUC has selected Liz Orembo, NCUC member from the AF region, and Olga Kyryliuk, NCUC Member from the EU region, as appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. Best Regards, -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca Wed Jan 29 00:58:43 2020 From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:58:43 +0000 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94cb1dde-6510-e7bc-8b07-ca3a35a05e8f@mail.utoronto.ca> Wonderful news, welcome aboard ladies! And thanks very much to Farell and Claudio for their service. Stephanie Perrin On 2020-01-28 17:54, Rafik Dammak wrote: Hi all, Welcome the new NCUC representatuves to PC , Olga and Liz . I want to thank Farell and Claudio for their service (pf course Farell staying with us as councillor :)) Maryam will add them to mailing list and update related pages. Best, Rafik ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Bruna Martins dos Santos > Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 07:49 Subject: Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. To: Rafik Dammak >, Stephanie Perrin > Cc: Louise Marie Hurel > Dear Rafik and Stephanie, NCUC would like to inform that the names of it's two appointees to the NCSG Policy committee are Liz Orembo and Olga Kyryliuk. We have already informed the list and the two appointees. Best regards, Bruna Santos ---------- Forwarded message --------- De: Bruna Martins dos Santos > Date: ter, 28 de jan de 2020 18:03 Subject: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. To: NCUC Discuss > Cc: Liz Orembo >, Olga Kyryliuk > Dear NCUC, As you might know NCUC were looking for two new appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. After opening a call for volunteers in 2019, NCUC has selected Liz Orembo, NCUC member from the AF region, and Olga Kyryliuk, NCUC Member from the EU region, as appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. Best Regards, -- Bruna Martins dos Santos Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins _______________________________________________ NCSG-PC mailing list NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carlosraul at gutierrez.se Wed Jan 29 01:30:20 2020 From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:30:20 -0600 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. In-Reply-To: <94cb1dde-6510-e7bc-8b07-ca3a35a05e8f@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <94cb1dde-6510-e7bc-8b07-ca3a35a05e8f@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <8876f1fbdc0bb1eb66f028fb79c94cce@gutierrez.se> +1 Welcome --- Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se +506 8837 7176 Aparatado 1571-1000 COSTA RICA El 2020-01-28 16:58, Stephanie Perrin escribi?: > Wonderful news, welcome aboard ladies! And thanks very much to Farell and Claudio for their service. > > Stephanie Perrin > > On 2020-01-28 17:54, Rafik Dammak wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Welcome the new NCUC representatuves to PC , Olga and Liz . I want to thank Farell and Claudio for their service (pf course Farell staying with us as councillor :)) >> Maryam will add them to mailing list and update related pages. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos >> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 07:49 >> Subject: Fwd: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. >> To: Rafik Dammak , Stephanie Perrin >> Cc: Louise Marie Hurel >> >> Dear Rafik and Stephanie, >> >> NCUC would like to inform that the names of it's two appointees to the NCSG Policy committee are Liz Orembo and Olga Kyryliuk. >> >> We have already informed the list and the two appointees. >> >> Best regards, >> Bruna Santos >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> De: Bruna Martins dos Santos >> Date: ter, 28 de jan de 2020 18:03 >> Subject: NCUC appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. >> To: NCUC Discuss >> Cc: Liz Orembo , Olga Kyryliuk >> >> Dear NCUC, >> >> As you might know NCUC were looking for two new appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. >> >> After opening a call for volunteers in 2019, NCUC has selected Liz Orembo, NCUC member from the AF region, and Olga Kyryliuk, NCUC Member from the EU region, as appointees to the NCSG Policy Committee. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> -- >> >> _Bruna Martins dos Santos _ >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos >> @boomartins >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NCSG-PC mailing list >> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is >> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have asked Maryam Bakoshi to arrange for the zoom room and Ozan Sahin will be handling the call for us.? I will ask her to share the zoom room coordinates when we get this set up. Please join us for a discussion with Matthew!? It is quite a challenge to represent both commercial and non-commercial interests at ICANN, and finding candidates with the right skill set is also challenging.? Bring your questions about the role to the meeting on Friday. Kind regards, Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/op-procedures-24oct19-en.pdf From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Wed Jan 29 04:20:43 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 11:20:43 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report In-Reply-To: <7daba0031469f464c4308783b0f26d37@gutierrez.se> References: <7daba0031469f464c4308783b0f26d37@gutierrez.se> Message-ID: thanks Carlos for the initial thought. did you have change to add them to the google doc? I have to refer to the report and check the recommendations while reviewing the comment. Best, Rafik Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 08:46, Carlos Raul Gutierrez < carlosraul at gutierrez.se> a ?crit : > Thanks drafters!!! > > Very negative view of Option 1, in view of the so far interesting > experience of the Council;s PDP reviews. I don't share this overly negative > view of the ATRT3 recommendations. Maybe the way the recommendations have > been exposes in ALAC has given me a different perspective. > --- > Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez > carlosraul at gutierrez.se > +506 8837 7176 > Aparatado 1571-1000 > COSTA RICA > > > > El 2020-01-28 16:08, Rafik Dammak escribi?: > > Hi all, > > This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely > critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Bruna Martins dos Santos* > Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32 > Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial > Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team > (ATRT3) Draft Report > To: > > > Dear NCSG, > > Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third > Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would > like to submit it for the membership and PC review. > > The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like > to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;) > Comment Here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit > > Best Regards, > -- > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos > @boomartins > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Rafik Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak a ?crit : > Hi all, > > This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely > critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions. > > Best, > > Rafik > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Bruna Martins dos Santos > Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32 > Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial > Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team > (ATRT3) Draft Report > To: > > > Dear NCSG, > > Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third > Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would > like to submit it for the membership and PC review. > > The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like > to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;) > Comment Here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit > > Best Regards, > -- > *Bruna Martins dos Santos * > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos > @boomartins > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bruna.mrtns at gmail.com Wed Jan 29 16:34:25 2020 From: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com (Bruna Martins dos Santos) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:34:25 -0200 Subject: [NCSG-PC] Election of Board seat 14: Preliminary discussion with current incumbent on Friday January31st In-Reply-To: <66bff5dc-6b14-4305-8963-171964b0390d@email.android.com> References: <52cf37e5-3267-c3cf-dbd3-579dc1f8b4c5@mail.utoronto.ca> <66bff5dc-6b14-4305-8963-171964b0390d@email.android.com> Message-ID: Also confirm attendance at the present call. best, Bruna Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 11:28, a ?crit : > Dear Stephanie! > > NPOC - Policy et. al. would be most interested in hearing what Matthew > thinks about the letter we submitted in December regarding the PIR sale > conditionality the NCSG has asked the ICANN Board for. I look forward to > the call. > > Thanks! Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez > > On Jan 28, 2020 17:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: > > Members may be aware that we have agreed election procedures for Board > seat 14 with our colleagues in the Non-contracted party house. Those > procedures are now part of the GNSO operating procedures (see link > below). Matthew Shears is the current incumbent of Board seat 14, and > his term expires at the Annual General meeting in October 2020. He is > interested in running again for another term. We are commencing > discussions with our colleagues in the BC, IPC, and ISPC, and we have > asked Matthew Shears to have a preliminary discussion with our own > members this Friday, January 31st, at 13:00 UTC. I have asked Maryam > Bakoshi to arrange for the zoom room and Ozan Sahin will be handling the > call for us. I will ask her to share the zoom room coordinates when we > get this set up. > > Please join us for a discussion with Matthew! It is quite a challenge > to represent both commercial and non-commercial interests at ICANN, and > finding candidates with the right skill set is also challenging. Bring > your questions about the role to the meeting on Friday. > > > Kind regards, > > Stephanie Perrin > > NCSG Chair > > > https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/op-procedures-24oct19-en.pdf > < > https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/op-procedures-24oct19-en.pdf> > > > _______________________________________________ > NCSG-PC mailing list > NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is > https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc > > > -- *Bruna Martins dos Santos * Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos @boomartins -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NCSG?PC Leadership* - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis. -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis." I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council. Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business. Best, Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lizorembo at gmail.com Fri Jan 31 07:54:35 2020 From: lizorembo at gmail.com (Liz Orembo) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:54:35 +0300 Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Rafik, I agree with you. My thoughts are that it's important for us to get a feel of the work flow, how they feed into the roles. Figuring out a strategic direction is also important so that we focus all our activities towards a goal. And yes, we need a meeting for this. On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 07:35 Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi all, > > The policy committee composition went through several changes with new > representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in > case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. > It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as > outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. > > A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the > process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one > thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while > and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC > members. With regard to charter provision for reference: > "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership* > > - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the > NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis. > > -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. > > - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly > basis." > > > I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term > limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about > transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is > also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of > workload. > > Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not > just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS > meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and > that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy > priorities for this year and share our input to council. > > Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly > policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our > separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business. > > Best, > > Rafik > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak at gmail.com Fri Jan 31 08:42:10 2020 From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 15:42:10 +0900 Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Liz for the response. yes it is the purpose, we have new members and we need to set the tone for this year. I will do some prep work and share with the PC. Best, Rafik Le ven. 31 janv. 2020 ? 14:54, Liz Orembo a ?crit : > Thanks Rafik, > > I agree with you. > > My thoughts are that it's important for us to get a feel of the work flow, > how they feed into the roles. Figuring out a strategic direction is also > important so that we focus all our activities towards a goal. > > And yes, we need a meeting for this. > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 07:35 Rafik Dammak wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new >> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in >> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. >> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as >> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. >> >> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the >> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one >> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while >> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC >> members. With regard to charter provision for reference: >> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership* >> >> - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the >> NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis. >> >> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. >> >> - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly >> basis." >> >> >> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term >> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about >> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is >> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of >> workload. >> >> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not >> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS >> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and >> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy >> priorities for this year and share our input to council. >> >> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly >> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our >> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.? With regard to charter provision for reference: "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.--?The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis." I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.? Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.? Best, Rafik? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: