From stephanie.perrin  Tue Feb  4 17:06:47 2020
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 15:06:47 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur - Supported
 Travelers/Contractor Travelers Database Due // Friday, 21 February 2020
In-Reply-To: <D09FE554-4EA6-4BEA-A49E-972C62140E4B@icann.org>
References: <D09FE554-4EA6-4BEA-A49E-972C62140E4B@icann.org>
Message-ID: <f4028500-a35d-5596-3f71-2f7ae4178aa5@mail.utoronto.ca>

Please note below the deadline for Kuala Lumpur travel.  Let me know all confirmed travellers, I would ike to get our stuff in early for a change.

cheers Steph


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Date:   Mon, 3 Feb 2020 21:02:29 +0000
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To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 02:12:14 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2020 09:12:14 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
In-Reply-To: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.

Best,

Rafik


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>


Dear all,

Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on
the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working
on:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing

Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be
appreciated

Very best regards,
Tomslin
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From elsa.saade at gmail.com  Sat Feb  1 03:43:47 2020
From: elsa.saade at gmail.com (Elsa S)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 20:43:47 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHFwYbezN1fP3XpXkm1FFczgWg7p21epGF7s0J865b+WBNsVrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Rafik,

First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work
you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to
be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP
at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG
could thank you enough.

Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I
very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan!
Welcome aboard team!

Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with
very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could
send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write
pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also
suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing
as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful
to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much
more efficiently.

I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate time
for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)

Hope my two cents help! And until soon,

E.
?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>
>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>
>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>    basis."
>
>
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
> workload.
>
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not
> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and
> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
-- 
--

Elsa Saade
Consultant
Gulf Centre for Human Rights
Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb  3 06:19:08 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 13:19:08 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the
 Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and
 Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmknx1t3EkbCsV=f9oxAwakCe3FVDt9ARfr4Kv=4betOg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADAEEV0d-xvt-s1SCaLiTrzMD2D+k2eSp_U70HU60JV-bRyW7g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThk1yzqByGuTXp9gdw=WaHSMo70HQiAfU4DFJwVz+QZLjg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmknx1t3EkbCsV=f9oxAwakCe3FVDt9ARfr4Kv=4betOg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkRUzrGpLxbjtgpre6swtX27fDryCi2v6KRuHc-u37NWQ@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

we have already passed the deadline and we need to review the comment.

Best,

Rafik


Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 ? 13:26, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> resending reminder to PC for review.
> there were several comments and drafters either resolved or responded to
> them. there are some pending questions there needed consensus.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely
>> critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32
>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>> Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team
>> (ATRT3) Draft Report
>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>> Dear NCSG,
>>
>> Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third
>> Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would
>> like to submit it for the membership and PC review.
>>
>> The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like
>> to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;)
>> Comment Here:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
>>
>
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Feb  3 14:21:40 2020
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 13:21:40 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the
 Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and
 Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkRUzrGpLxbjtgpre6swtX27fDryCi2v6KRuHc-u37NWQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADAEEV0d-xvt-s1SCaLiTrzMD2D+k2eSp_U70HU60JV-bRyW7g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThk1yzqByGuTXp9gdw=WaHSMo70HQiAfU4DFJwVz+QZLjg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmknx1t3EkbCsV=f9oxAwakCe3FVDt9ARfr4Kv=4betOg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkRUzrGpLxbjtgpre6swtX27fDryCi2v6KRuHc-u37NWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5B03DE8-9105-4447-84B4-D716E602C2A6@benin2point0.org>

I have no substantial objection at glance, and have no time for a thorough review.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 3 Feb 2020, at 05:19, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> 
> we have already passed the deadline and we need to review the comment.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> 
> Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 ? 13:26, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
> resending reminder to PC for review.
> there were several comments and drafters either resolved or responded to them. there are some pending questions there needed consensus.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
> Hi all,
> 
> This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
> 
> 
> Dear NCSG, 
> 
> Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would like to submit it for the membership and PC review. 
> 
> The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;) 
> Comment Here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit>
> 
> Best Regards, 
> -- 
> Bruna Martins dos Santos 
> 
> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> @boomartins
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Feb  3 14:30:26 2020
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 13:30:26 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DCFF5078-194E-4AEE-97D1-42EC07EADA60@benin2point0.org>

Dear Rafik

Thanks for raising this up. I think you have been doing an incredible job and it would be very difficult for somebody else to fit into your shoes.

I would suggest that we have an NCSG PC meeting where you could explain to all of us you have been doing these 3 years, how you organize yourself, what your suggestions to make priorities, sending mails, coaching/mentoring penholders etc?. This would not only give a good overview of the PC workflow to newcomers but also help existing members to know what actually the job of a PC chair is.

Thanks.


@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 31 Jan 2020, at 05:35, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership
> A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
> One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload.
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council. 
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng  Mon Feb  3 16:15:54 2020
From: oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng (Oreoluwa Somolu Lesi)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 15:15:54 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <DCFF5078-194E-4AEE-97D1-42EC07EADA60@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <DCFF5078-194E-4AEE-97D1-42EC07EADA60@benin2point0.org>
Message-ID: <61b652bb-5484-ad02-d072-81e5f8165157@wtec.org.ng>

Dear Rafik,

Thank you for raising this issue. I chime in with others who suggest a 
meeting to move this forward.

I also agree with getting a picture and good understanding of all the 
work that needs to be done.

I think that if we identify a clear strategic direction for NCSG, this 
can help to inform what comments we opt to contribute and thereby manage 
our energy and efforts.

Kind regards,
Ore
-- 
Oreoluwa Lesi
Executive Director, Women's Technology Empowerment Centre (W.TEC)
+234.803.621.1307, +234.813.339.9999 | www.wtec.org.ng 
<https://wtec.org.ng/> | @wteconline 
<https://www.instagram.com/wteconline/>




On 03/02/2020 1:30 pm, Farell FOLLY wrote:
> *Dear Rafik*
> *
> *
> *Thanks for raising this up. I think you have been doing an incredible 
> job and it would be very difficult for somebody else to fit into your 
> shoes.*
> *
> *
> *I would suggest that we have an NCSG PC meeting where you could 
> explain to all of us you have been doing these 3 years, how you 
> organize yourself, what your suggestions to make priorities, sending 
> mails, coaching/mentoring penholders etc?. This would not only give a 
> good overview of the PC workflow to newcomers but also help existing 
> members to know what actually the job of a PC chair is.*
> *
> *
> *Thanks.*
>
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> GNSO Councillor
> linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 31 Jan 2020, at 05:35, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM 
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The policy committee composition?went through several changes with 
>> new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc 
>> just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next 
>> steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about 
>> our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations 
>> from NCSG members.
>>
>> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on 
>> the process. It will be good to document the process for the future 
>> and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold 
>> for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will 
>> happen within PC members.? With regard to charter provision for 
>> reference:
>> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>
>>   * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>>     NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>
>> --?The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>
>>   * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>>     basis."
>>
>>
>> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term 
>> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking 
>> about transition in a way or another is critical. One way 
>> experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter 
>> permits at least in term of workload.
>>
>> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and 
>> not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had 
>> its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about 
>> priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to 
>> define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to 
>> council.
>>
>> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the 
>> monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we 
>> need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  1 00:31:58 2020
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:31:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <1580506514.671009000.ujjb59ru@frv50.fwdcdn.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <1580506514.671009000.ujjb59ru@frv50.fwdcdn.com>
Message-ID: <278198880.36282.1580509918277@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Rafik and all,?I agree with your proposal of having separate call and first re-organize us as PC and put priorities for this year in order to do what we should do.Count on me in,?

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaCluster Orinoco TIC member
Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El viernes, 31 de enero de 2020 04:37:18 p.?m. GMT-5, Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net> escribi?:  
 
 Hi Rafik,
Thanks for this email. I believe a separate PC call at this point is a good idea to get the right sense of the current situation and all the changes that you described. Count me in.
Best,Olga 
 
    31 ?????? 2020, 06:35:39, ?? "Rafik Dammak" < rafik.dammak at gmail.com >:    
 
 Hi all,
The policy committee composition?went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.? With regard to charter provision for reference:"2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership   
   - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.

--?The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
   
   - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."

I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload.
Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.?
Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.?
Best,
Rafik? 
  
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Feb  3 23:23:55 2020
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 22:23:55 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAHFwYbezN1fP3XpXkm1FFczgWg7p21epGF7s0J865b+WBNsVrQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts.

+1 

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Rafik,
> 
> First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG could thank you enough.
> 
> Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan! Welcome aboard team!
> 
> Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much more efficiently.
> 
> I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate time for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)
> 
> Hope my two cents help! And until soon,
> 
> E.
> ?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership
> A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
> One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload.
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council. 
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
> -- 
> --
> 
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 08:32:40 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 15:32:40 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the
 Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and
 Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <E5B03DE8-9105-4447-84B4-D716E602C2A6@benin2point0.org>
References: <CADAEEV0d-xvt-s1SCaLiTrzMD2D+k2eSp_U70HU60JV-bRyW7g@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Farell, we need to hear from othersm including review and
proofreading in order to wrap-up this
we also have the comment on KSK rollover for review.

Rafik

Le lun. 3 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:21, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
?crit :

> I have no substantial objection at glance, and have no time for a thorough
> review.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> GNSO Councillor
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2020, at 05:19, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> we have already passed the deadline and we need to review the comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 ? 13:26, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> resending reminder to PC for review.
>> there were several comments and drafters either resolved or responded to
>> them. there are some pending questions there needed consensus.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely
>>> critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32
>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>>> Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team
>>> (ATRT3) Draft Report
>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear NCSG,
>>>
>>> Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third
>>> Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would
>>> like to submit it for the membership and PC review.
>>>
>>> The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like
>>> to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;)
>>> Comment Here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> --
>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>
>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>> @boomartins
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb  4 08:43:59 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 15:43:59 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <437DE51C-09A1-4F99-AE8D-1FE65145A2F5@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
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hi,

thanks for those comments and feedback.

1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with some days/time
and we can select one giving also some time to prepare properly.
2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I cannot promise
that I can write them down quickly (I will try) . as suggested you can send
some questions and I can compile to answer them.

Best,

Rafik

Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:23, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
?crit :

> Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts.
>
> +1
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
> GNSO Councillor
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rafik,
>
> First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work
> you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to
> be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP
> at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG
> could thank you enough.
>
> Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I
> very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan!
> Welcome aboard team!
>
> Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with
> very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could
> send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write
> pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also
> suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing
> as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful
> to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much
> more efficiently.
>
> I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate time
> for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)
>
> Hope my two cents help! And until soon,
>
> E.
> ?
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
>> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
>> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
>> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
>> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>>
>> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
>> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
>> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
>> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
>> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
>> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>
>>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>
>> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>
>>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>>    basis."
>>
>>
>> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
>> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
>> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
>> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
>> workload.
>>
>> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not
>> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
>> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and
>> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
>> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>>
>> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
>> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
>> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
> --
> --
>
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 00:31:08 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 07:31:08 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the
 Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and
 Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThn0P8wvOf398teCGVQpot+L+Vcf9FHcsLWLWHbXYMc=qg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,

it seems that ATRT will start review of comments and we are already late.
since there was no-objection, I will submit the comment and follow-up with
staff to get it included.

Best,

Rafik
Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:32, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Thanks Farell, we need to hear from othersm including review and
> proofreading in order to wrap-up this
> we also have the comment on KSK rollover for review.
>
> Rafik
>
> Le lun. 3 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:21, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
> ?crit :
>
>> I have no substantial objection at glance, and have no time for a
>> thorough review.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>> GNSO Councillor
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Feb 2020, at 05:19, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> we have already passed the deadline and we need to review the comment.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 ? 13:26, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> resending reminder to PC for review.
>>> there were several comments and drafters either resolved or responded to
>>> them. there are some pending questions there needed consensus.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely
>>>> critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32
>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>>>> Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team
>>>> (ATRT3) Draft Report
>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear NCSG,
>>>>
>>>> Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third
>>>> Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would
>>>> like to submit it for the membership and PC review.
>>>>
>>>> The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also
>>>> like to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;)
>>>> Comment Here:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
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From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca  Wed Feb  5 01:57:02 2020
From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 18:57:02 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the
 Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and
 Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkpym+Qngv+JsGEgP-0_BGmsG=jvfu=d3yeDXeL7mrzJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkpym+Qngv+JsGEgP-0_BGmsG=jvfu=d3yeDXeL7mrzJg@mail.gmail.com>
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I was just trying to read the report and do an edit, but my anti virus says the icann site there has malware.  Backed off

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 17:31, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi all,
> 
> it seems that ATRT will start review of comments and we are already late. since there was no-objection, I will submit the comment and follow-up with staff to get it included.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
>> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:32, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>> Thanks Farell, we need to hear from othersm including review and proofreading in order to wrap-up this
>> we also have the comment on KSK rollover for review.
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>>> Le lun. 3 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:21, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a ?crit :
>>> I have no substantial objection at glance, and have no time for a thorough review.
>>> 
>>> @__f_f__
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>> 
>>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>>> GNSO Councillor
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Feb 2020, at 05:19, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> we have already passed the deadline and we need to review the comment.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 ? 13:26, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>>>> resending reminder to PC for review.
>>>>> there were several comments and drafters either resolved or responded to them. there are some pending questions there needed consensus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le mer. 29 janv. 2020 ? 07:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is highly urgent as the deadline is for this Friday and definitely critical report. Please review carefully and ask questions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rafik 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 05:32
>>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group on the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report
>>>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear NCSG, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Viviane Vinagre and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Draft Report and would like to submit it for the membership and PC review. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The proposed input can be found on the link below and we would also like to thank Michael Karanicolas for clearing up some of our doubts ;) 
>>>>>> Comment Here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E1b3LQpH_86oU2OqZwxEAfMjmu3NVfbtTz8oemjNG8/edit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Regards, 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> @boomartins
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 23:15:04 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:15:04 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
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References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

we are already passed the deadline for this comment and we need to submit.
so please review so we can submit before the weekend.
it is quite urgent.

Best,

Rafik
Le sam. 1 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:12, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Hi all,
>
> Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
> Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
> To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on
> the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working
> on:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be
> appreciated
>
> Very best regards,
> Tomslin
>
>
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From lists at icann.guru  Wed Feb  5 23:20:58 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:20:58 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB7PR09MB228284239D585ACD85067B22F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

?Approval from me

---
James Gannon

From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:15
To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers

Hi all,

we are already passed the deadline for this comment and we need to submit. so please review so we can submit before the weekend.
it is quite urgent.

Best,

Rafik
Le sam. 1 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:12, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
Hi all,

Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>
Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>

Dear all,

Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working on:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing

Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be appreciated

Very best regards,
Tomslin

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 23:23:51 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:23:51 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR09MB228284239D585ACD85067B22F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB7PR09MB228284239D585ACD85067B22F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=_EAz1d-y73xneUJuRvrLpgJ-W5MWNoa1dtv9eymHo4Q@mail.gmail.com>

thanks James.
I wanted also to add that the drafting team included technologists we can
trust the judgement regarding this technical issue.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:21, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :

> ?Approval from me
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:15
> *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone
> KSK Rollovers
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> we are already passed the deadline for this comment and we need to submit.
> so please review so we can submit before the weekend.
>
> it is quite urgent.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
> Le sam. 1 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:12, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar* <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
> Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
> To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on
> the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working
> on:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be
> appreciated
>
>
>
> Very best regards,
>
> Tomslin
>
>
>
>
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From lists at icann.guru  Wed Feb  5 23:25:33 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 21:25:33 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=_EAz1d-y73xneUJuRvrLpgJ-W5MWNoa1dtv9eymHo4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB7PR09MB228284239D585ACD85067B22F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAH5sTh=_EAz1d-y73xneUJuRvrLpgJ-W5MWNoa1dtv9eymHo4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB7PR09MB2282259611A6C38DFC856D51F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

Yes Eric our drafter here is one of the worlds foremost experts on DNNSEC and is a great addition to NCSG on our more technical topics such as this. Was very happy to have him onboard for this comment.

---
James Gannon

From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:24
To: James Gannon <lists at icann.guru>
Cc: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers

thanks James.
I wanted also to add that the drafting team included technologists we can trust the judgement regarding this technical issue.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:21, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :
?Approval from me

---
James Gannon

From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:15
To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers

Hi all,

we are already passed the deadline for this comment and we need to submit. so please review so we can submit before the weekend.
it is quite urgent.

Best,

Rafik
Le sam. 1 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:12, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit :
Hi all,

Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com<mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>>
Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>

Dear all,

Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working on:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing

Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be appreciated

Very best regards,
Tomslin

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb  5 23:43:28 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 06:43:28 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report
 of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkRPoBh-9Ha9VkKN2cAGXP9TyVqTxxd-_ixLt23nruNjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nu9wyrBBBgOXcJw0Xixmk-RNOOkZpKUVXGojOWfBB18Eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkRPoBh-9Ha9VkKN2cAGXP9TyVqTxxd-_ixLt23nruNjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmRVLsE8iJykaRZuHX6ZL+f2LzZ8N0h_wSRqcd0A8Uwew@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the draft
comment.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Hi all,
>
> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is
> asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
> option to support.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New
> gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>
>
> Dear members,
>
> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
> comment
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
> .
>
> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD
> Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished,
> we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:
>
> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred
> mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>
> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
> specify what changes concern you and why?
>
> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider,
> that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for
> submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>
>
> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on
> the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures,
> favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options
> for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>
> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
> December 2018
> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>
> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to
> ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
> within ICANN the organisation.
>
> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
> these funds. *
>
> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision
> making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will
> deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the
> CEO and Board.
>
>
> Mechanisms in summary under review:
> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction
> proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>
> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>
> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is created
> which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be responsible
> for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>
>
> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>
> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
> - Efficiency and effectiveness
> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
> costs)
> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund distribution
> for projects
> - Administrative complexity to run
> - Means for oversight
> - Providing transparency and accountability
> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund allocation
> - Risk
>
> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been
> clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
> Proceeds.
>
>
> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>
> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
>
>
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From lists at icann.guru  Thu Feb  6 17:49:37 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:49:37 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] FW: [council] List of Future GNSO Work -- Please share
	with your SGs	and Cs
References: <ca82f86a1aa041a6bfaace125b3c16cb@verisign.com>
Message-ID: <DB7PR09MB2282858760971AA5A9CFAF1EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

FYI for discussion.

---
James Gannon

From: council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <council at gnso.icann.org>
Reply to: "Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com>
Date: Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 15:47
To: "council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
Subject: [council] List of Future GNSO Work -- Please share with your SGs and Cs

Hi all,

As a follow-up to our GNSO Council SPS discussions on work prioritization, I am attaching the list of known work items. You?ll recognize this list as the subject material for the informal ?sense of the room? survey we completed on Friday. The survey result will be included in our SPS Report as a reference, but, as we agreed, it is only informational.

Please share this list with your respective SGs and Cs and begin your discussions about priorities for 2020 and 2021. We will discuss this further during our 20 February Council meeting, and also during our F2F meetings in Cancun. Those conversations will be productive only if you?ve socialized this list with your colleagues and have received some direction regarding your groups? top priorities.

Thanks,
Keith


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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 17:56:18 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 00:56:18 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] FW: [council] List of Future GNSO Work -- Please
 share with your SGs and Cs
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR09MB2282858760971AA5A9CFAF1EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <ca82f86a1aa041a6bfaace125b3c16cb@verisign.com>
 <DB7PR09MB2282858760971AA5A9CFAF1EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmg9K63dbJbOeYzEcsY5Hu4LmpKNWv06kueAMYYsP1w9A@mail.gmail.com>

thanks James, I just shared the list in NCSG too.
I suggested that PC will lead and try to consolidate input which will be a
ranking of the list of activities. During, we did a survey just to get a
sense of room. For this time, SG/C will give their input.
We will have our NCSG Policy call in coming day prior to GNSO Council
meeting and we can allocate time there to discuss this.

Best,

Rafik

Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:49, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :

> FYI for discussion.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of "Drazek,
> Keith via council" <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Reply to: *"Drazek, Keith" <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 15:47
> *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[council] List of Future GNSO Work -- Please share with your
> SGs and Cs
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As a follow-up to our GNSO Council SPS discussions on work prioritization,
> I am attaching the list of known work items. You?ll recognize this list as
> the subject material for the informal ?sense of the room? survey we
> completed on Friday. The survey result will be included in our SPS Report
> as a reference, but, as we agreed, it is only informational.
>
>
>
> Please share this list with your respective SGs and Cs and begin your
> discussions about priorities for 2020 and 2021. We will discuss this
> further during our 20 February Council meeting, and also during our F2F
> meetings in Cancun. Those conversations will be productive only if you?ve
> socialized this list with your colleagues and have received some direction
> regarding your groups? top priorities.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 18:00:39 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 01:00:39 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

another comment in our pipeline for review.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
De : Joan katambi <joanhopek at gmail.com>
Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:43
Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group
to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates
in 2022 Draft Report
To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>


Dear NCSG,

Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for ICANN
Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and we
would like to submit it for your review.

comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.

We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA

Regards
Katambi Joan
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From lists at icann.guru  Thu Feb  6 18:01:46 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:01:46 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB7PR09MB2282246182A87FFD0B24D16EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

It seems there are still outstanding questions on the doc between the drafters, is it finalized?

---
James Gannon

From: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 16:00
To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report

Hi all,

another comment in our pipeline for review.

Best,

Rafik
---------- Forwarded message ---------
De : Joan katambi <joanhopek at gmail.com<mailto:joanhopek at gmail.com>>
Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:43
Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com<mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>

Dear NCSG,

Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and we would like to submit it for your review.

comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.

We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA

Regards
Katambi Joan
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 18:09:14 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 01:09:14 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR09MB2282246182A87FFD0B24D16EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB7PR09MB2282246182A87FFD0B24D16EF01D0@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThn6Db5kjOzTe-dnYDiFPZJzVWvDotXu1jxsdWZ+TVZDZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

possibly, I think this one need some inputs. Some members might bring up
some issues with dates (ICANN planning team already did some work to avoid
clashing with known holidays). The comment was shared as the deadline is
soon.

Best,

Rafik


Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 01:01, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :

> It seems there are still outstanding questions on the doc between the
> drafters, is it finalized?
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 16:00
> *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
> Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
> 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> another comment in our pipeline for review.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De : *Joan katambi* <joanhopek at gmail.com>
> Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:43
> Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group
> to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates
> in 2022 Draft Report
> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Dear NCSG,
>
>
>
> Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for
> ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and
> we would like to submit it for your review.
>
>
>
> comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.
>
>
>
> We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Katambi Joan
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 15:54:15 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 22:54:15 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK
 Rollovers
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR09MB2282259611A6C38DFC856D51F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM8DdeVNq9yUi2v5yrnuE5W4qUo-oyvAr5owJft1RZ=xHCG+Tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThneK7nGyykbagV_sjxSw00QfF1FchhXZ6yxxPyWW2AP+A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThnfBS8DLbN_6SgSqrL2xOiN74pbzGJXPgGJWCK=L8Jw_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <DB7PR09MB228284239D585ACD85067B22F0020@DB7PR09MB2282.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=4XaEC89VPsdN5abkvEEysuJqjYtyJ7GJRXs9XYyGavg@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

if there is no strong objection, I will submit the comment today.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:25, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :

> Yes Eric our drafter here is one of the worlds foremost experts on DNNSEC
> and is a great addition to NCSG on our more technical topics such as this.
> Was very happy to have him onboard for this comment.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:24
> *To: *James Gannon <lists at icann.guru>
> *Cc: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone
> KSK Rollovers
>
>
>
> thanks James.
>
> I wanted also to add that the drafting team included technologists we can
> trust the judgement regarding this technical issue.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:21, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :
>
> ?Approval from me
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 21:15
> *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone
> KSK Rollovers
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> we are already passed the deadline for this comment and we need to submit.
> so please review so we can submit before the weekend.
>
> it is quite urgent.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
> Le sam. 1 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:12, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Please find below the draft comment on KSK rollover for your review.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Tomslin Samme-Nlar* <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 08:41
> Subject: NCSG Comment on Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers
> To: ncsg-discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Pardon the late notice, but here below is the link to the draft comment on
> the Proposal for Future Root Zone KSK Rollovers that we have been working
> on:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nnMAs8CKbmbQ7uMo83vGHcDElyYNcc9gWZnwHZa6F3E/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Your quick suggestions, comments, additions, subtraction would be
> appreciated
>
>
>
> Very best regards,
>
> Tomslin
>
>
>
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Fri Feb  7 16:46:27 2020
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:46:27 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur -
 Supported Travelers/
In-Reply-To: <937ED62F-9F17-4C04-BA4D-566F71190CED@icann.org>
References: <D09FE554-4EA6-4BEA-A49E-972C62140E4B@icann.org>
 <f4028500-a35d-5596-3f71-2f7ae4178aa5@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <1647975176.379145.1581003699815@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2cccf2aa-c61f-5394-f694-0d64c94b7e52@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <937ED62F-9F17-4C04-BA4D-566F71190CED@icann.org>
Message-ID: <1f34c6c6-ace8-5ac3-8b92-f40716aee4ac@mail.utoronto.ca>

oops, no wonder it is quiet!  Thanks for catching that :-D

Please see below, councilors!

On 2020-02-07 09:37, Maryam Bakoshi wrote:
Hi Stephanie,

You forgot to cc the Policy committee :)

?
Many thanks,


Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777?

On 7 Feb 2020, at 14:17, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

?

Thanks Juan, I will get that going right away if possible.  So far, I have Rafik, Yourself, Raphael, could the remaining councilors please confirm (and apologies if I have missed anyone who already confirmed). James, Tatiana, Farell, Elsa???

Cheers Steph

On 2020-02-06 10:41, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
Dear Stephanie,
I am going to Kuala Lumpur and I will also need to confirm my name as soon as we can due to I will have to start my visa process in a Consular office in another country, and I would like to start soon to avoid any further issue.

Best Regards
Juan Manuel Rojas

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [go.onelink.me]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.onelink.me_107872968-3Fpid-3DInProduct-26c-3DGlobal-5FInternal-5FYGrowth-5FAndroidEmailSig-5F-5FAndroidUsers-26af-5Fwl-3Dym-26af-5Fsub1-3DInternal-26af-5Fsub2-3DGlobal-5FYGrowth-26af-5Fsub3-3DEmailSignature&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=uxIN3ieMAP4PMC7cqBEV4wB8j1_kRAfIF0LtzmR6zt0&s=PV1Fbek-6u2xQ4jbVdKs9CcEKwm50ERcbUsmnSvQDk4&e=>

On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:06, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC
<ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is><mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

Please note below the deadline for Kuala Lumpur travel.  Let me know all confirmed travellers, I would ike to get our stuff in early for a change.

cheers Steph


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur - Supported Travelers/Contractor Travelers Database Due // Friday, 21 February 2020
Date:   Mon, 3 Feb 2020 21:02:29 +0000
From:   Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org><mailto:terri.agnew at icann.org>
To:     Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca><mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org><mailto:maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
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From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 16:57:29 2020
From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:57:29 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur -
 Supported Travelers/
In-Reply-To: <1f34c6c6-ace8-5ac3-8b92-f40716aee4ac@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <D09FE554-4EA6-4BEA-A49E-972C62140E4B@icann.org>
 <f4028500-a35d-5596-3f71-2f7ae4178aa5@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <1647975176.379145.1581003699815@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2cccf2aa-c61f-5394-f694-0d64c94b7e52@mail.utoronto.ca>
 <937ED62F-9F17-4C04-BA4D-566F71190CED@icann.org>
 <1f34c6c6-ace8-5ac3-8b92-f40716aee4ac@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <CADxLtgfHg2Rii4sECMYufnURHEH3g02bdZns_LN1q9rgv5BWCw@mail.gmail.com>

Oh. Hi :-)
Yes, am planning to go, so am in!
Cheers,
Tanya

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:46, Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> oops, no wonder it is quiet!  Thanks for catching that :-D
> Please see below, councilors!
>
> On 2020-02-07 09:37, Maryam Bakoshi wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> You forgot to cc the Policy committee :)
>
> ?
> Many thanks,
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: ?+44 7846 471777?
>
> On 7 Feb 2020, at 14:17, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC
> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Thanks Juan, I will get that going right away if possible.  So far, I have
> Rafik, Yourself, Raphael, could the remaining councilors please confirm
> (and apologies if I have missed anyone who already confirmed). James,
> Tatiana, Farell, Elsa???
>
> Cheers Steph
> On 2020-02-06 10:41, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>
> Dear Stephanie,
> I am going to Kuala Lumpur and I will also need to confirm my name as soon
> as we can due to I will have to start my visa process in a Consular office
> in another country, and I would like to start soon to avoid any further
> issue.
>
> Best Regards
> Juan Manuel Rojas
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [go.onelink.me]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.onelink.me_107872968-3Fpid-3DInProduct-26c-3DGlobal-5FInternal-5FYGrowth-5FAndroidEmailSig-5F-5FAndroidUsers-26af-5Fwl-3Dym-26af-5Fsub1-3DInternal-26af-5Fsub2-3DGlobal-5FYGrowth-26af-5Fsub3-3DEmailSignature&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=1A9IIOkJia11FXDmJ1R4Jn7wGT4ExHiVuBF89mvNt_Q&m=uxIN3ieMAP4PMC7cqBEV4wB8j1_kRAfIF0LtzmR6zt0&s=PV1Fbek-6u2xQ4jbVdKs9CcEKwm50ERcbUsmnSvQDk4&e=>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:06, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC
> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Please note below the deadline for Kuala Lumpur travel.  Let me know all
> confirmed travellers, I would ike to get our stuff in early for a change.
>
> cheers Steph
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur - Supported Travelers/Contractor
> Travelers Database Due // Friday, 21 February 2020
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 21:02:29 +0000
> From: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org> <terri.agnew at icann.org>
> To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Maryam Bakoshi
> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> CC: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org> <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> In order to service your travel needs for ICANN68 in Kuala Lumpur in a
> timely fashion, please submit your ICANN68 Meeting database to
> gnso-secs at icann.org by *Friday, 21 February 2020 *in order to be
> submitted by deadline of Monday, 24 February 2020.
>
>
>
> As a reminder, for the AGM meeting only, incoming Councilors get funding,
> as well as the then-incumbent Councilors.
>
>
>
> A timely response would be appreciated in view of visa issues and the OFAC
> review. The deadline for submissions is critical to allow for confirmed
> reservation numbers as required for visa and travel arrangements.
>
> All tri-annual meeting *funded traveler lists are due 120 days* prior to
> the next ICANN meeting.
>
>
>
> *Benefits of having the list 120 Days Before the Meeting:*
>
>    - Allow ICANN to gather the documentation required (hotel and flight
>    confirmations) for funded travelers to apply for their visa.
>    - Allow enough time for funded travelers to complete and submit their
>    visa application, which often vary per ICANN Meeting location.
>    - Allow enough time for funded travelers to apply for a transit visa
>    (if required), which often vary per ICANN Meeting location.
>    - Allow ICANN to purchase less expensive airfares.
>    - Allow the travelers to plan their pre-and-post Meeting Travel in
>    advance.
>    - Allow ICANN to set-up funded travelers in advance as vendors with
>    Finance allowing us to wire their per diem funds in a timelier manner.
>
>
>
> Please note:
>
>    - GNSO supported traveler with a designated hotel accommodation
>    funding, a hotel room is automatically secured for you, please *DO NOT*
>    book your own hotel as it is un-reimbursable.
>    - All personal data provided to ICANN org in for purposes of providing
>    travel support for participants related to ICANN events will be processed
>    in accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy [icann.org]
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_policy&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=A_rkvV7hcBAIOU12pQX6fSkWBC6-P-bPaQDowX2oR_A&s=WwqcPGGS1mvkGHO5BjVc3E9ewPva_WoF-Snq25kq0OM&e=>.
>    Should you have any questions or concerns about this Privacy Policy and our
>    privacy practices, you may contact us at privacy at icann.org.
>
>
>
> Please note that when requesting travel support, in the interest of
> fairness and in light of budget restrictions we would like you to take the
> following into consideration:
>
>
>
> 1.               Respond timely to ICANN Travel regarding your upcoming
> travel.
>
> 2.               If you require a visa to enter the country, please make
> sure to acquire your visa immediately. Please contact the ICANN travel
> team to let them know you will need a visa.
>
> 3.               Requests past the deadline will be handled on a case by
> case basis by ICANN. All additional travelers added after the 90-day
> deadline are subject to availability, may NOT be placed in the same hotel
> as their funded traveler groups, and may not be able to attend due to visa
> issues.
>
> 4.               If possible please book direct travel requests. Detours
> and multi-stop trips are unfortunately not guaranteed.
>
> 5.               Strictly limit your travel from your home to the ICANN
> meeting venue.
>
> 6.               Approved date of arrival/departure for this meeting is *Sunday,
> 21 June 2020 ? Friday, 26 June 2020*
>
> 7.               If travelers want to extend their stay this must be done
> at their own expense and should contact the hotel directly once the ICANN
> hotel confirmation has be sent to them.
>
> 8.               *Privately Booked Reservations*: ICANN will not refund
> or take over accommodations directly booked by the funded traveler. If a
> replacement has an existing hotel reservation, they will need to cancel
> their reservation and ICANN will not be able to take over their
> reservation.
>
>
>
>  Many thanks for your cooperation!
>
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> *Terri*
>
> *            ---*
>
> *Terri Agnew*
>
> Operations Support - GNSO Lead Administrator
>
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> *Email:*  terri.agnew at icann.org
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Fri Feb  7 17:04:11 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (carlosraul at gutierrez.se)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:11 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur -
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From lists at icann.guru  Fri Feb  7 17:19:45 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 15:19:45 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur -
 Supported Travelers/
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I am confirmed 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Feb 2020, at 14:46, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> 
> ?
> oops, no wonder it is quiet!  Thanks for catching that :-D
> 
> Please see below, councilors!
> 
>> On 2020-02-07 09:37, Maryam Bakoshi wrote:
>> Hi Stephanie,
>> 
>> You forgot to cc the Policy committee :) 
>> 
>> ?
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator 
>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers 
>> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ?+44 7846 471777?
>> 
>>> On 7 Feb 2020, at 14:17, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> Thanks Juan, I will get that going right away if possible.  So far, I have Rafik, Yourself, Raphael, could the remaining councilors please confirm (and apologies if I have missed anyone who already confirmed). James, Tatiana, Farell, Elsa???
>>> 
>>> Cheers Steph
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-02-06 10:41, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>> Dear Stephanie,
>>>> I am going to Kuala Lumpur and I will also need to confirm my name as soon as we can due to I will have to start my visa process in a Consular office in another country, and I would like to start soon to avoid any further issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Juan Manuel Rojas
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [go.onelink.me]
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:06, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC
>>>> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>> Please note below the deadline for Kuala Lumpur travel.  Let me know all confirmed travellers, I would ike to get our stuff in early for a change.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers Steph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject:	ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur - Supported Travelers/Contractor Travelers Database Due // Friday, 21 February 2020
>>>> Date:	Mon, 3 Feb 2020 21:02:29 +0000
>>>> From:	Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>
>>>> To:	Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>>>> CC:	gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> In order to service your travel needs for ICANN68 in Kuala Lumpur in a timely fashion, please submit your ICANN68 Meeting database to gnso-secs at icann.org by Friday, 21 February 2020 in order to be submitted by deadline of Monday, 24 February 2020.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> As a reminder, for the AGM meeting only, incoming Councilors get funding, as well as the then-incumbent Councilors.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> A timely response would be appreciated in view of visa issues and the OFAC review. The deadline for submissions is critical to allow for confirmed reservation numbers as required for visa and travel arrangements.
>>>> 
>>>> All tri-annual meeting funded traveler lists are due 120 days prior to the next ICANN meeting.
>>>>  
>>>> Benefits of having the list 120 Days Before the Meeting: 
>>>> Allow ICANN to gather the documentation required (hotel and flight confirmations) for funded travelers to apply for their visa.
>>>> Allow enough time for funded travelers to complete and submit their visa application, which often vary per ICANN Meeting location.
>>>> Allow enough time for funded travelers to apply for a transit visa (if required), which often vary per ICANN Meeting location.
>>>> Allow ICANN to purchase less expensive airfares.
>>>> Allow the travelers to plan their pre-and-post Meeting Travel in advance.
>>>> Allow ICANN to set-up funded travelers in advance as vendors with Finance allowing us to wire their per diem funds in a timelier manner.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Please note:
>>>> GNSO supported traveler with a designated hotel accommodation funding, a hotel room is automatically secured for you, please DO NOT book your own hotel as it is un-reimbursable.  
>>>> All personal data provided to ICANN org in for purposes of providing travel support for participants related to ICANN events will be processed in accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy [icann.org].  Should you have any questions or concerns about this Privacy Policy and our privacy practices, you may contact us at privacy at icann.org.
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that when requesting travel support, in the interest of fairness and in light of budget restrictions we would like you to take the following into consideration:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 1.               Respond timely to ICANN Travel regarding your upcoming travel.
>>>> 2.               If you require a visa to enter the country, please make sure to acquire your visa immediately. Please contact the ICANN travel team to let them know you will need a visa.
>>>> 3.               Requests past the deadline will be handled on a case by case basis by ICANN. All additional travelers added after the 90-day deadline are subject to availability, may NOT be placed in the same hotel as their funded traveler groups, and may not be able to attend due to visa issues.
>>>> 4.               If possible please book direct travel requests. Detours and multi-stop trips are unfortunately not guaranteed.
>>>> 5.               Strictly limit your travel from your home to the ICANN meeting venue. 
>>>> 6.               Approved date of arrival/departure for this meeting is Sunday, 21 June 2020 ? Friday, 26 June 2020
>>>> 7.               If travelers want to extend their stay this must be done at their own expense and should contact the hotel directly once the ICANN hotel confirmation has be sent to them.
>>>> 8.               Privately Booked Reservations: ICANN will not refund or take over accommodations directly booked by the funded traveler. If a replacement has an existing hotel reservation, they will need to cancel their reservation and ICANN will not be able to take over their reservation.   
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  Many thanks for your cooperation! 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> With kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Terri
>>>> 
>>>>             ---
>>>> 
>>>> Terri Agnew
>>>> 
>>>> Operations Support - GNSO Lead Administrator
>>>> 
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>> 
>>>> Email:  terri.agnew at icann.org
>>>> 
>>>> Skype ID:  terri.agnew.icann
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Find out more about the GNSO by visiting: https://learn.icann.org/
>>>> 
>>>> Follow @GNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ICANN_GNSO
>>>> 
>>>> Transcripts and recordings of GNSO Working Group and Council events are located on the GNSO Master Calendar 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Fri Feb  7 23:34:27 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (carlosraul at gutierrez.se)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2020 15:34:27 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Feb 10 21:09:42 2020
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 20:09:42 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Fwd: ICANN68 | Kuala Lumpur -
 Supported Travelers/
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References: <D09FE554-4EA6-4BEA-A49E-972C62140E4B@icann.org>
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 <1647975176.379145.1581003699815@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2cccf2aa-c61f-5394-f694-0d64c94b7e52@mail.utoronto.ca>
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I plan to attend the conference in-person.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf 






> On 7 Feb 2020, at 15:46, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> wrote:
> 
>>>> 21 June 2020 ? Friday, 26 June 2

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 00:40:13 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 07:40:13 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThn6Db5kjOzTe-dnYDiFPZJzVWvDotXu1jxsdWZ+TVZDZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,

The draft was updated and is in better shape for NCSG PC review.
please review the comment. the deadline for submission is this Tuesday.

Best,

Rafik

Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 01:09, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Hi,
>
> possibly, I think this one need some inputs. Some members might bring up
> some issues with dates (ICANN planning team already did some work to avoid
> clashing with known holidays). The comment was shared as the deadline is
> soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 01:01, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :
>
>> It seems there are still outstanding questions on the doc between the
>> drafters, is it finalized?
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *James Gannon*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik
>> Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 16:00
>> *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> *Subject: *[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>> Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
>> 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> another comment in our pipeline for review.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : *Joan katambi* <joanhopek at gmail.com>
>> Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:43
>> Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group
>> to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates
>> in 2022 Draft Report
>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear NCSG,
>>
>>
>>
>> Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for
>> ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and
>> we would like to submit it for your review.
>>
>>
>>
>> comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.
>>
>>
>>
>> We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Katambi Joan
>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb 11 05:36:41 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 12:36:41 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report
 of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmRVLsE8iJykaRZuHX6ZL+f2LzZ8N0h_wSRqcd0A8Uwew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nu9wyrBBBgOXcJw0Xixmk-RNOOkZpKUVXGojOWfBB18Eg@mail.gmail.com>
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hi all,

sending reminder regarding reviewing the comment on auctions proceeds
report.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> hi all,
>
> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the draft
> comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is
>> asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
>> option to support.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New
>> gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
>> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
>> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
>> comment
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
>> .
>>
>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD
>> Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished,
>> we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:
>>
>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred
>> mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>
>> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
>> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
>> specify what changes concern you and why?
>>
>> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider,
>> that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for
>> submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>>
>>
>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on
>> the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures,
>> favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options
>> for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>
>> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
>> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
>> December 2018
>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
>> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>>
>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to
>> ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
>> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
>> within ICANN the organisation.
>>
>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
>> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
>> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
>> these funds. *
>>
>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision
>> making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will
>> deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the
>> CEO and Board.
>>
>>
>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction
>> proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>
>> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
>> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>
>> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is
>> created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be
>> responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>
>>
>> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>>
>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
>> costs)
>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund
>> distribution for projects
>> - Administrative complexity to run
>> - Means for oversight
>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund alloca
>> tion
>> - Risk
>>
>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been
>> clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
>> Proceeds.
>>
>>
>> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
>> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
>> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>
>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb 12 13:46:02 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 20:46:02 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkP7HSBYF7kH4dqbjWHC4p6KBwuuzZ2wGfcRGZHcCU-=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThkEVzbmUx+QVb3A5fbdm4Jhgw-+Oj6=kUjm-qvjzOGwew@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

if there is no strong objection by the COB, I will submit the comment
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA

Best,

Rafik


Le mar. 11 f?vr. 2020 ? 07:40, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> Hi all,
>
> The draft was updated and is in better shape for NCSG PC review.
> please review the comment. the deadline for submission is this Tuesday.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 01:09, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> possibly, I think this one need some inputs. Some members might bring up
>> some issues with dates (ICANN planning team already did some work to avoid
>> clashing with known holidays). The comment was shared as the deadline is
>> soon.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> Le ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 01:01, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> a ?crit :
>>
>>> It seems there are still outstanding questions on the doc between the
>>> drafters, is it finalized?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> *James Gannon*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Rafik
>>> Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 16:00
>>> *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>> *Subject: *[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>>> Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
>>> 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> another comment in our pipeline for review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> De : *Joan katambi* <joanhopek at gmail.com>
>>> Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:43
>>> Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders
>>> Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised
>>> Dates in 2022 Draft Report
>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>> Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear NCSG,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for
>>> ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and
>>> we would like to submit it for your review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Katambi Joan
>>>
>>
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From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (carlosraul at gutierrez.se)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 05:52:09 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
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From oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng  Wed Feb 12 14:02:55 2020
From: oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng (Oreoluwa Somolu Lesi)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 13:02:55 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
 Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings
 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkEVzbmUx+QVb3A5fbdm4Jhgw-+Oj6=kUjm-qvjzOGwew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALnYF_jC5E+GaBtqa7Vfds=YRSAn2Z-1szQ63jyHCZF5CHQZHA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThmzYqgF07pJRh6Pe71G3qsWXnQt9rtUmA5WvzoLkveZWg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d127549b-6c3d-d7c9-1f4c-0daeaba41739@wtec.org.ng>

No objections from me. Looks fine.

Ore


On 12/02/2020 12:46 pm, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> hi all,
>
> if there is no strong objection by the COB, I will submit the comment 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le?mar. 11 f?vr. 2020 ??07:40, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit?:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     The draft was updated and is in better shape for NCSG PC review.
>     please review the comment. the deadline for submission is this
>     Tuesday.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     Le?ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ??01:09, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit?:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         possibly, I think this one need some inputs. Some members
>         might bring up some issues with dates (ICANN planning team
>         already did some work to avoid clashing with known holidays).
>         The comment was shared as the deadline is soon.
>
>         Best,
>
>         Rafik
>
>
>         Le?ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ??01:01, James Gannon <lists at icann.guru>
>         a ?crit?:
>
>             It seems there are still outstanding questions on the doc
>             between the drafters, is it finalized?
>
>             ---
>
>             *James?Gannon*
>
>             *From: *NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is
>             <mailto:ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is>> on behalf of Rafik
>             Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>             <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>             *Date: *Thursday, 6 February 2020 at 16:00
>             *To: *ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>             <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
>             *Subject: *[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Proposed NCSG Statement of the
>             Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates
>             for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in
>             2022 Draft Report
>
>             Hi all,
>
>             another comment in our pipeline for review.
>
>             Best,
>
>             Rafik
>
>             ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>             De?: *Joan katambi* <joanhopek at gmail.com
>             <mailto:joanhopek at gmail.com>>
>             Date: ven. 7 f?vr. 2020 ??00:43
>             Subject: Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial
>             Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public
>             Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report
>             To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>             <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>             Cc: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>             <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>
>             Dear NCSG,
>
>             Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the
>             Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and
>             Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report? and we would like to
>             submit it for your review.
>
>             comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.
>
>             We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
>
>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
>             Regards
>
>             Katambi Joan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Feb 13 03:28:51 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:28:51 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
 Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
 Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAPZSw-poQZNnR3wnr96nwD7w0MiRTc-stOs1Z7QBukAuT+GmSA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4b4edc2.c58e04833bf6da0a6ce721fdd977ae8a@mymail.yorku.ca>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThmuniZXb+3EEtRd2efd_xgZLkWafghky4AAWDOQSftx2w@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

we have this draft comment for review.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
De : Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>
Date: jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:27
Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>


Hi all

Please find below the draft comment.

We are looking for your input on the various issues raised, as well as
input on any other issues which may have slipped by.

Final deadline is 26 Feb., taking off a few days for the policy committee
review.

Thanks,

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA


On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:

> NCSG Colleagues:
>
> The 9-Page NCSG Submission last year, with regard to the annual budget, is
> at:
> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-fy20-budget-17dec18/attachments/20190209/b80a1d3c/NCSGCommentonBudget-FY20-0001.pdf
> At its core were the following four requests. *This year?s comments may
> want to include an assessment of progress in these four areas*, as now
> reflected in both the annual and five year draft plans.
>
> Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair, NCSG Finance Committee
>
> ===================
>
> The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes this opportunity to
> comment on ICANN's draft Operating Plan and Budget for the fiscal year
> 2020. In this comment, we make four requests. We ask that ICANN:
>
> ? Look inward at its own overall spending patterns and provide a clearer
> explanation as to how operational efficiencies will be achieved this year
> and into the future;
>
> ? Provide the community with an appropriate level of support commensurate
> with our responsibilities under the ICANN Bylaws, including funding a
> NCPH Intersessional;
>
> ? Provide the community with further clarity around who is authorizing
> spending, where resources are going in the community, and what it costs to
> fulfil externalities imposed on
>
>    ICANN, particularly those by intellectual property interests; and
>
> ? Re-evaluate the spend on capacity development programmes for their
> effectiveness in leading to engagement in ICANN?s policy development
> processes and mission.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> *From*: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
> *To*: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Sent*: Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 8:56 PM
> *Subject*: [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG
> Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21
> Operating Plan & Budget
>
> Hi all,
>
> resending this call for volunteers if anyone is interested to join the
> review of budget and operating plan, and participating in drafting the NCSG
> comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 15:04, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> ICANN published a new public consultation on Draft FY21-25 Operating &
>> Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget. This process is
>> important for community to share input on budget and financial plan in
>> order to ensure resources and funding for critical elements such as policy
>> making in GNSO.
>>
>> As group, we are following this more closely understanding the new powers
>> coming with Empowered Community including budget approval and the
>> discussion about ICANN financial stability. For more background and
>> explanation you can find more info here:
>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-opplan-budget-fy21-25-2019-12-20-en
>>
>> I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible
>> to all in order to kick off the discussion and comments:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>>
>> Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in drafting
>> the NCSG comment and join the drafting team. This effort should be led by
>> NCSG Finance Committee which will work with other volunteers to draft the
>> NCSG Comment.
>>
>> You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki page
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2019 and
>> listing those who drafted them.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Rafik Dammak
>>
>> NCSG Policy Committee Chair
>>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 01:26:48 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:26:48 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] regarding EPDP replacement
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmc=rRJ0v9RhQUTQkiGDE2m55e69z8knty-2jMfyoxU3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Sending this to record PC discussion outcome:
1- Yawri is selected as alternate to EPDP, Stephanie will inform the EPDP
about the selection
2- PC will open new call for volunteers and would like ask David to submit
application.

With regard to the last item, I will send a new revised version of call for
candidates.

Best,

Rafik
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 02:34:54 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:34:54 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Agenda for NCSG Monthly Policy Call 18th Feb
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmQTd3AZC+nC2Z5m_+jJU5V96zbGJ3QjNozw6pkSATF5g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

I am sharing here a draft agenda for the NCSG Policy call scheduled for
tomorrow 18th February. The main topics for the GNSO council meeting are:
PDP 3.0 report and deliverables approval, discussion about RPM and Subpro
project change requests and the GNSO Council work prioritization.

In addition to that council will go projects list review as it was agreed
during SPS meeting. As you might notice, the council will focus on February
meeting on doing program management and tracking the progress of working
groups and will continue to do so during Cancun meeting.

One outcome we need to get from the NCSG call in addition to the thread in
the list is regarding NCSG priorities and input for GNSO work
prioritization.
With regard to policy discussion, I would like to suggest that EPDP public
comment to have its own separate webinar/call with NCSG reps to EPDP. We
will still have high level updates from WGs but scheduling a separate makes
sense to discuss deeply the initial report.

Please let me know if you have any comments or amendment for the agenda:

I. Introduction
II. GNSO Council Call Preparation

   - Council agenda:
   https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/policy/2019/agenda/agenda-gnso-council-20feb20-en.pdf

III. Policy Update
- Policy topics:
  * PDPs & Review Teams Update : EPDP, Subpro, RPM
- Public comments status:  https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public
& list of volunteers
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020
* EPDP public comments
* GNSO Council priorities

IV. Others
      - Cancun ICANN Meeting : webinars , prep-meeting, status

Best Regards,

Rafik
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 06:37:08 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 13:37:08 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=u5nxU=_mLz3vewMR5obyY78+70O2ztbOA2Tfeid6XGg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHFwYbezN1fP3XpXkm1FFczgWg7p21epGF7s0J865b+WBNsVrQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <437DE51C-09A1-4F99-AE8D-1FE65145A2F5@benin2point0.org>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThnEZ8_9uKfqPujA_SbuiC03aVPGLK8Va3ynBP1x8uBFyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Regarding a policy committee call, I would like to propose next week
Wednesday at 12:00UTC for 1 hour.

Best,

Rafik

Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> hi,
>
> thanks for those comments and feedback.
>
> 1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with some
> days/time and we can select one giving also some time to prepare properly.
> 2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I cannot promise
> that I can write them down quickly (I will try) . as suggested you can send
> some questions and I can compile to answer them.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:23, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>> GNSO Councillor
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rafik,
>>
>> First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work
>> you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to
>> be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP
>> at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG
>> could thank you enough.
>>
>> Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I
>> very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan!
>> Welcome aboard team!
>>
>> Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with
>> very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could
>> send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write
>> pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also
>> suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing
>> as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful
>> to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much
>> more efficiently.
>>
>> I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate
>> time for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)
>>
>> Hope my two cents help! And until soon,
>>
>> E.
>> ?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
>>> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
>>> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
>>> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
>>> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>>>
>>> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
>>> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
>>> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
>>> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
>>> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
>>> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>>
>>>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>>>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>>
>>> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>>
>>>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>>>    basis."
>>>
>>>
>>> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
>>> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
>>> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
>>> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
>>> workload.
>>>
>>> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and
>>> not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its
>>> SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities
>>> and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
>>> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>>>
>>> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
>>> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
>>> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
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From lizorembo at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 14:35:39 2020
From: lizorembo at gmail.com (Liz Orembo)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:35:39 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Thanks Rafik. I'm ok with Wed next week.

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 7:37 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Regarding a policy committee call, I would like to propose next week
> Wednesday at 12:00UTC for 1 hour.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> hi,
>>
>> thanks for those comments and feedback.
>>
>> 1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with some
>> days/time and we can select one giving also some time to prepare properly.
>> 2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I cannot promise
>> that I can write them down quickly (I will try) . as suggested you can send
>> some questions and I can compile to answer them.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:23, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>>> GNSO Councillor
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rafik,
>>>
>>> First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work
>>> you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to
>>> be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP
>>> at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG
>>> could thank you enough.
>>>
>>> Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I
>>> very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan!
>>> Welcome aboard team!
>>>
>>> Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with
>>> very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could
>>> send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write
>>> pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also
>>> suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing
>>> as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful
>>> to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much
>>> more efficiently.
>>>
>>> I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate
>>> time for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)
>>>
>>> Hope my two cents help! And until soon,
>>>
>>> E.
>>> ?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
>>>> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
>>>> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
>>>> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
>>>> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>>>>
>>>> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on
>>>> the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
>>>> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
>>>> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
>>>> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
>>>> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>>>
>>>>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>>>>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>>>
>>>> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>>>
>>>>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>>>>    basis."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
>>>> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
>>>> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
>>>> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
>>>> workload.
>>>>
>>>> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and
>>>> not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its
>>>> SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities
>>>> and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
>>>> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
>>>> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
>>>> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Elsa Saade
>>> Consultant
>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>


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Best regards.
Liz.

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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Mon Feb 17 14:40:49 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 06:40:49 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9cff24291f723ff59bd1aa45ae67edf1@gutierrez.se>

Dear Rafik, 

I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important
discussion: Based on your experience, would you recommend that the
Policy Chair would also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to
anybody the Policy Chair should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no
doubts we have enjoyed a great benefit form having you covering both,
the Council administrative as well as the council's policy issues. The
questions are if this is sustainable over the long term, or if we should
look for a Policy Chair who is NOT part of the Council and ask some of
our Council members to support the Policy Chair ina a team format (just
as one example).  It could also be the other way around. In any case, I
ask for your thoughts and recommendation from your own 300% engagement
perspective what could be the most suitable structure we could have in
the future. 

Thanks again for your unconditional service!

---
Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
+506 8837 7176 
Aparatado 1571-1000 
COSTA RICA

El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?:

> Hi all, 
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. 
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference: 
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership 
> 
> * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> 
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. 
> 
> * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. 
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.  
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.  
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik  
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Mon Feb 17 14:42:57 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 06:42:57 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Message-ID: <e4ee05551f7b7e03dd2f43b2b88b2e28@gutierrez.se>

Please confirm Wednesday 20 FEB, correct? I would like to make sure I
can participate

---
Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
+506 8837 7176 
Aparatado 1571-1000 
COSTA RICA

El 2020-02-16 22:37, Rafik Dammak escribi?:

> Hi all, 
> 
> Regarding a policy committee call, I would like to propose next week Wednesday at 12:00UTC for 1 hour. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit : 
> 
> hi, 
> 
> thanks for those comments and feedback. 
> 
> 1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with some days/time and we can select one giving also some time to prepare properly. 
> 2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I cannot promise that I can write them down quickly (I will try) . as suggested you can send some questions and I can compile to answer them. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> Le mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:23, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a ?crit : 
> Elsa, I didn't read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts. 
> 
> +1 
> 
> @__f_f__
> 
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________ 
> 
> (Ekue) Farell FOLLY 
> GNSO Councillor 
> linkedin.com/in/farellf [1]  
> 
> On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Rafik, 
> 
> First of all, I'd like to take this chance to thank you for all the work you've been doing in the past three years. It's a lot of heavy lifting to be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don't think NCSG could thank you enough. 
> 
> Secondly, I'd like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan! Welcome aboard team! 
> 
> Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could send in 3 questions that we'd like to be answered on our call, and write pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much more efficiently. 
> 
> I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate time for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :) 
> 
> Hope my two cents help! And until soon, 
> 
> E. 
> -- 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi all, 
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. 
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference: 
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership 
> 
> * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> 
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. 
> 
> * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. 
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.  
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.  
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik  _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc -- 
> 
> --
> 
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant 
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights 
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

_______________________________________________
NCSG-PC mailing list
NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 14:46:25 2020
From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 13:46:25 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <9cff24291f723ff59bd1aa45ae67edf1@gutierrez.se>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
I agree with Carlos that these are questions that should be clarified among
us. I personally do not think that the policy committee chair should be a
member of the GNSO council as long as coordination in the PC goes well and
the chair can follow various policy developments and public comments. Rafik
has an immense burden on his shoulders and I can't imagine anyone doing
this.
I would say, why don't we consider the idea of appointing two vice-chairs
-- not necessarily with experience on the council, can be volunteers from
the new cohort of PC members -- to onboard and help Rafik with the policy
tasks and coordination for the next few months. Then after he leaves GNSO
and PC as a chair (sadness) we will have already functioning structure and
at least two people who can either continue supporting a new chair or
become co-chairs, chair and vice-chair, etc.
PS. Next Wednesday works well for me for now. Unfortunately, due to work
meetings where I *must* be present, I am not able to make it to the PC call
tomorrow though, very unfortunate timing for me.
Cheers,
Tanya

On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:40, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
wrote:

> Dear Rafik,
>
> I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important discussion:
> Based on your experience, would you recommend that the Policy Chair would
> also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to anybody the Policy Chair
> should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no doubts we have enjoyed a
> great benefit form having you covering both, the Council administrative as
> well as the council's policy issues. The questions are if this is
> sustainable over the long term, or if we should look for a Policy Chair who
> is NOT part of the Council and ask some of our Council members to support
> the Policy Chair ina a team format (just as one example).  It could also be
> the other way around. In any case, I ask for your thoughts and
> recommendation from your own 300% engagement perspective what could be the
> most suitable structure we could have in the future.
>
> Thanks again for your unconditional service!
> ---
> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se
> +506 8837 7176
> Aparatado 1571-1000
> COSTA RICA
>
>
>
> El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>
>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>
>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>    basis."
>
>
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
> workload.
>
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not
> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and
> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Mon Feb 17 15:53:39 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 07:53:39 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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 <9cff24291f723ff59bd1aa45ae67edf1@gutierrez.se>
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Thanks Tatiana! 

I agree with you. On top, I would add that the Council Members should
carry a lot of the PC burden as well, and let chair and Co-Chairs look
for volunteers, follow up on their needs for feedback, liaise with other
Constituencies, etc. etc. 

Look forward to this discussion

---
Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
+506 8837 7176 
Aparatado 1571-1000 
COSTA RICA

El 2020-02-17 06:46, Tatiana Tropina escribi?:

> Hi all, 
> I agree with Carlos that these are questions that should be clarified among us. I personally do not think that the policy committee chair should be a member of the GNSO council as long as coordination in the PC goes well and the chair can follow various policy developments and public comments. Rafik has an immense burden on his shoulders and I can't imagine anyone doing this.  
> I would say, why don't we consider the idea of appointing two vice-chairs -- not necessarily with experience on the council, can be volunteers from the new cohort of PC members -- to onboard and help Rafik with the policy tasks and coordination for the next few months. Then after he leaves GNSO and PC as a chair (sadness) we will have already functioning structure and at least two people who can either continue supporting a new chair or become co-chairs, chair and vice-chair, etc. 
> PS. Next Wednesday works well for me for now. Unfortunately, due to work meetings where I *must* be present, I am not able to make it to the PC call tomorrow though, very unfortunate timing for me.  
> Cheers, 
> Tanya  
> 
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:40, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> wrote: 
> 
> Dear Rafik, 
> 
> I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important discussion: Based on your experience, would you recommend that the Policy Chair would also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to anybody the Policy Chair should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no doubts we have enjoyed a great benefit form having you covering both, the Council administrative as well as the council's policy issues. The questions are if this is sustainable over the long term, or if we should look for a Policy Chair who is NOT part of the Council and ask some of our Council members to support the Policy Chair ina a team format (just as one example).  It could also be the other way around. In any case, I ask for your thoughts and recommendation from your own 300% engagement perspective what could be the most suitable structure we could have in the future. 
> 
> Thanks again for your unconditional service!
> 
> ---
> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
> +506 8837 7176 
> Aparatado 1571-1000 
> COSTA RICA
> 
> El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?: 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. 
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference: 
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership 
> 
> * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> 
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. 
> 
> * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. 
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.  
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.  
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik  
> _______________________________________________
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 15:56:30 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 22:56:30 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Hi Carlos,

Thanks for the questions.  A NCSG member being vice chair won't be an
option for the next 2 years as it will be a CSG councillor turn as we are
alternating for that role. so that respond to the first part of the question
Following what is going on in GNSO council is helpful but being there is
not required. We had before a non-councillor as PC chair so it is possible.
Being able to find information, get updates, be aware about public comments
and/or other initiatives, following policy discussions are important and
having familiarity with the processes are what matters imho. I don't have
any particular advice regarding being or not a councillor in order to be PC
chair, only commitment matters :)
yes the call is scheduled for next Wednesday.

Best,

Rafik

Le lun. 17 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:40, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <
carlosraul at gutierrez.se> a ?crit :

> Dear Rafik,
>
> I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important discussion:
> Based on your experience, would you recommend that the Policy Chair would
> also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to anybody the Policy Chair
> should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no doubts we have enjoyed a
> great benefit form having you covering both, the Council administrative as
> well as the council's policy issues. The questions are if this is
> sustainable over the long term, or if we should look for a Policy Chair who
> is NOT part of the Council and ask some of our Council members to support
> the Policy Chair ina a team format (just as one example).  It could also be
> the other way around. In any case, I ask for your thoughts and
> recommendation from your own 300% engagement perspective what could be the
> most suitable structure we could have in the future.
>
> Thanks again for your unconditional service!
> ---
> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se
> +506 8837 7176
> Aparatado 1571-1000
> COSTA RICA
>
>
>
> El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>
>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>
>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>    basis."
>
>
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
> workload.
>
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not
> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and
> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
> _______________________________________________
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Mon Feb 17 15:58:17 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 07:58:17 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] regarding EPDP replacement
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Excellent 

Txs again R.

---
Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
+506 8837 7176 
Aparatado 1571-1000 
COSTA RICA

El 2020-02-16 17:26, Rafik Dammak escribi?:

> Hi all, 
> 
> Sending this to record PC discussion outcome: 
> 1- Yawri is selected as alternate to EPDP, Stephanie will inform the EPDP  about the selection 
> 2- PC will open new call for volunteers and would like ask David to submit application. 
> 
> With regard to the last item, I will send a new revised version of call for candidates. 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik 
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From oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng  Mon Feb 17 16:01:32 2020
From: oreoluwa at wtec.org.ng (Oreoluwa Somolu Lesi)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 15:01:32 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Next Wednesday works for me at that time.

Ore


On 17/02/2020 1:35 pm, Liz Orembo wrote:
> Thanks Rafik. I'm ok with Wed next week.
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 7:37 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Regarding a policy committee call, I would like to propose next
>     week Wednesday at 12:00UTC for 1 hour.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     Le?mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ??15:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> a ?crit?:
>
>         hi,
>
>         thanks for those comments and feedback.
>
>         1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with
>         some days/time and we can select one giving also some time to
>         prepare properly.
>         2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I
>         cannot promise that I can write them down quickly (I will try)
>         . as suggested you can send some questions and I can compile
>         to answer them.
>
>         Best,
>
>         Rafik
>
>         Le?mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ??06:23, Farell FOLLY
>         <farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> a
>         ?crit?:
>
>             Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with
>             your thoughts.
>
>             +1
>
>             @__f_f__
>
>             Best Regards
>             ____________________________________
>
>             (Ekue) Farell FOLLY
>             GNSO Councillor
>             linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>             On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:elsa.saade at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Rafik,
>>
>>             First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you
>>             for all the work you?ve been doing in the past three
>>             years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to be chair of PC,
>>             Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP
>>             at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and
>>             I don?t think NCSG could thank you enough.
>>
>>             Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members,
>>             Liz and Olga I very much look forward to working with
>>             you. And of course James and Juan! Welcome aboard team!
>>
>>             Having said that, I would definitely support a call for
>>             the PC but with very sharp questions to ask and good
>>             preparation. Maybe each of us could send in 3 questions
>>             that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write
>>             pointers down as to what the best way forward could be.
>>             If I may also suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down
>>             the tasks you have been doing as PC Chair outside of the
>>             description in our mandate? It could be helpful to
>>             understand the workload and would also hone in our
>>             conversation much more efficiently.
>>
>>             I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most
>>             appropriate time for a call if this would be helpful! Let
>>             me know :)
>>
>>             Hope my two cents help! And until soon,
>>
>>             E.
>>             ?
>>
>>             On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak
>>             <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Hi all,
>>
>>                 The policy committee composition?went through several
>>                 changes with new representatives from constituencies
>>                 and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think
>>                 it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and
>>                 plan. It is also important to work as team and think
>>                 about our role and duties as outlined in the charter
>>                 and the expectations from NCSG members.
>>
>>                 A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC
>>                 chair and agree on the process. It will be good to
>>                 document the process for the future and one thing to
>>                 add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold
>>                 for a while and I will share the draft soon). The
>>                 election will happen within PC members.? With regard
>>                 to charter provision for reference:
>>                 "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>
>>                   * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among
>>                     the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the
>>                     NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>
>>                 --?The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>
>>                   * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the
>>                     NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
>>
>>
>>                 I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years
>>                 and I will be term limited as councillor and PC
>>                 member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
>>                 transition in a way or another is critical. One way
>>                 experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as
>>                 the charter permits at least in term of workload.
>>
>>                 Another would be to think strategically for PC work
>>                 for this year and not just on whatever tasks or
>>                 deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
>>                 meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions
>>                 about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon
>>                 where we need to define our policy priorities for
>>                 this year and share our input to council.
>>
>>                 Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas.
>>                 Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call
>>                 per se but we can think if we need our separate call
>>                 to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>
>>                 Best,
>>
>>                 Rafik
>>                 _______________________________________________
>>                 NCSG-PC mailing list
>>                 NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>                 https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>             -- 
>>             --
>>
>>             Elsa Saade
>>             Consultant
>>             Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>             Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>             _______________________________________________
>>             NCSG-PC mailing list
>>             NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>             https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>     _______________________________________________
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>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best regards.
> Liz.
>
> PGP ID: 0x1F3488BF
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 16:02:24 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 23:02:24 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Hi Tatiana,

yes the idea of having vice-chairs can be explored as the charter allows
and envisioned that. I will be fine to continue for a last term and
on-boarding new vice-chairs and share the workload. I expect my workload
will be lesser :)

Best,

Rafik

Le lun. 17 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:46, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
a ?crit :

> Hi all,
> I agree with Carlos that these are questions that should be clarified
> among us. I personally do not think that the policy committee chair should
> be a member of the GNSO council as long as coordination in the PC goes well
> and the chair can follow various policy developments and public comments.
> Rafik has an immense burden on his shoulders and I can't imagine anyone
> doing this.
> I would say, why don't we consider the idea of appointing two vice-chairs
> -- not necessarily with experience on the council, can be volunteers from
> the new cohort of PC members -- to onboard and help Rafik with the policy
> tasks and coordination for the next few months. Then after he leaves GNSO
> and PC as a chair (sadness) we will have already functioning structure and
> at least two people who can either continue supporting a new chair or
> become co-chairs, chair and vice-chair, etc.
> PS. Next Wednesday works well for me for now. Unfortunately, due to work
> meetings where I *must* be present, I am not able to make it to the PC call
> tomorrow though, very unfortunate timing for me.
> Cheers,
> Tanya
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:40, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se> wrote:
>
>> Dear Rafik,
>>
>> I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important
>> discussion: Based on your experience, would you recommend that the Policy
>> Chair would also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to anybody the
>> Policy Chair should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no doubts we have
>> enjoyed a great benefit form having you covering both, the Council
>> administrative as well as the council's policy issues. The questions are if
>> this is sustainable over the long term, or if we should look for a Policy
>> Chair who is NOT part of the Council and ask some of our Council members to
>> support the Policy Chair ina a team format (just as one example).  It could
>> also be the other way around. In any case, I ask for your thoughts and
>> recommendation from your own 300% engagement perspective what could be the
>> most suitable structure we could have in the future.
>>
>> Thanks again for your unconditional service!
>> ---
>> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
>> carlosraul at gutierrez.se
>> +506 8837 7176
>> Aparatado 1571-1000
>> COSTA RICA
>>
>>
>>
>> El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new
>> representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in
>> case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan.
>> It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as
>> outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.
>>
>> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the
>> process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one
>> thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while
>> and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC
>> members.  With regard to charter provision for reference:
>> "*2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership*
>>
>>    - A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the
>>    NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
>>
>> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>
>>    - One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly
>>    basis."
>>
>>
>> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term
>> limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about
>> transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is
>> also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of
>> workload.
>>
>> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not
>> just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS
>> meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and
>> that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy
>> priorities for this year and share our input to council.
>>
>> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly
>> policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our
>> separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From carlosraul at gutierrez.se  Mon Feb 17 16:16:51 2020
From: carlosraul at gutierrez.se (Carlos Raul Gutierrez)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 08:16:51 -0600
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
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Txs! 

Look forward to the call and your generous offer to onboard the new team
is highly appreciated. 

---
Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
+506 8837 7176 
Aparatado 1571-1000 
COSTA RICA

El 2020-02-17 07:56, Rafik Dammak escribi?:

> Hi Carlos, 
> 
> Thanks for the questions.  A NCSG member being vice chair won't be an option for the next 2 years as it will be a CSG councillor turn as we are alternating for that role. so that respond to the first part of the question 
> Following what is going on in GNSO council is helpful but being there is not required. We had before a non-councillor as PC chair so it is possible. Being able to find information, get updates, be aware about public comments and/or other initiatives, following policy discussions are important and having familiarity with the processes are what matters imho. I don't have any particular advice regarding being or not a councillor in order to be PC chair, only commitment matters :) 
> yes the call is scheduled for next Wednesday. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> Le lun. 17 f?vr. 2020 ? 21:40, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> a ?crit : 
> 
> Dear Rafik, 
> 
> I kindly ask for your clarification to continue this important discussion: Based on your experience, would you recommend that the Policy Chair would also be member of the GNSO? Would you recommend to anybody the Policy Chair should double as Council Vice Chair? I have no doubts we have enjoyed a great benefit form having you covering both, the Council administrative as well as the council's policy issues. The questions are if this is sustainable over the long term, or if we should look for a Policy Chair who is NOT part of the Council and ask some of our Council members to support the Policy Chair ina a team format (just as one example).  It could also be the other way around. In any case, I ask for your thoughts and recommendation from your own 300% engagement perspective what could be the most suitable structure we could have in the future. 
> 
> Thanks again for your unconditional service!
> 
> ---
> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
> carlosraul at gutierrez.se 
> +506 8837 7176 
> Aparatado 1571-1000 
> COSTA RICA
> 
> El 2020-01-30 22:35, Rafik Dammak escribi?: 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> The policy committee composition went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members. 
> 
> A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.  With regard to charter provision for reference: 
> "2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership 
> 
> * A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis.
> 
> -- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role. 
> 
> * One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis."
> 
> I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload. 
> 
> Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.  
> 
> Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.  
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Rafik  
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Mon Feb 17 16:35:25 2020
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 14:35:25 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCSG Policy Committee call on Wednesday 26 February 2020
 at 1300 UTC
Message-ID: <92ffae444b6b48f89a440f8f2904fd6b@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

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From olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net  Mon Feb 17 16:51:07 2020
From: olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net (Olga Kyryliuk)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:51:07 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New Policy Committee / Next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThnEZ8_9uKfqPujA_SbuiC03aVPGLK8Va3ynBP1x8uBFyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkk=C=63ew8U-Mw295h3tGT7APpd5EQob0K_yhWYLM+Ag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHFwYbezN1fP3XpXkm1FFczgWg7p21epGF7s0J865b+WBNsVrQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <437DE51C-09A1-4F99-AE8D-1FE65145A2F5@benin2point0.org>
 <CAH5sTh=u5nxU=_mLz3vewMR5obyY78+70O2ztbOA2Tfeid6XGg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThnEZ8_9uKfqPujA_SbuiC03aVPGLK8Va3ynBP1x8uBFyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1581951067.167161000.4j37ng0b@frv50.fwdcdn.com>

Hi Rafik,

Thanks for arranging this. Time works well for me.

Best,
Olga



17 ??????? 2020, 06:37:27, ?? "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

Hi all,

Regarding a policy committee call, I would like to propose next week Wednesday at 12:00UTC for 1 hour.

Best,

Rafik

Le?mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ??15:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
hi,

thanks for those comments and feedback.

1- I see support for having a PC call, let me come back with some days/time and we can select one giving also some time to prepare properly.
2- happy to explain about the tasks and activities but I cannot promise that I can write them down quickly (I will try) . as suggested you can send some questions and I can compile to answer them.

Best,

Rafik

Le?mar. 4 f?vr. 2020 ??06:23, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a ?crit?:
Elsa, I didn?t read you earlier. I al totally in line with your thoughts. 
+1?

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

(Ekue) Farell FOLLY
GNSO Councillor
linkedin.com/in/farellf?

On 1 Feb 2020, at 02:43, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:

Rafik,

First of all, I?d like to take this chance to thank you for all the work you?ve been doing in the past three years. It?s a lot of heavy lifting to be chair of PC, Vice-chair of the council AND council liaison to the EPDP at the same time. Your work is more than commendable and I don?t think NCSG could thank you enough.

Secondly, I?d like to welcome our vibrant new PC members, Liz and Olga I very much look forward to working with you. And of course James and Juan! Welcome aboard team!

Having said that, I would definitely support a call for the PC but with very sharp questions to ask and good preparation. Maybe each of us could send in 3 questions that we?d like to be answered on our call, and write pointers down as to what the best way forward could be. If I may also suggest if, Rafik, you could maybe jot down the tasks you have been doing as PC Chair outside of the description in our mandate? It could be helpful to understand the workload and would also hone in our conversation much more efficiently.

I could create a doodle poll for us to decide on the most appropriate time for a call if this would be helpful! Let me know :)

Hope my two cents help! And until soon,

E.
?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:35 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, 
The policy committee composition?went through several changes with new representatives from constituencies and councillors (added in cc just in case). I think it is good opportunity now to discuss next steps and plan. It is also important to work as team and think about our role and duties as outlined in the charter and the expectations from NCSG members.

A first action would be the election of a NCSG PC chair and agree on the process. It will be good to document the process for the future and one thing to add to the PC operating procedures project (on hold for a while and I will share the draft soon). The election will happen within PC members.? With regard to charter provision for reference:
"2.5.3. NCSG?PC Leadership
A Chair will be elected or replaced from among the members of the NCSG?PC by a 2/3 vote of the NCSG?PC membership on a yearly basis. --?The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
One or more Vice-Chairs may be chosen by the NCSG?PC on a yearly basis." 
I have served as PC chair for at least for 3 years and I will be term limited as councillor and PC member by AGM of this year. So thinking about transition in a way or another is critical. One way experimented before is also to have vice-chairs as the charter permits at least in term of workload.

Another would be to think strategically for PC work for this year and not just on whatever tasks or deadlines comes to us. GNSO council had its SPS meeting last week and there were a lot of discussions about priorities and that will come to us as SG soon where we need to define our policy priorities for this year and share our input to council.?

Please let me know about your suggestions/ideas. Currently the monthly policy call is not a PC call per se but we can think if we need our separate call to brainstorming and conduct our business.?

Best,

Rafik?
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 02:07:23 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:07:23 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of
 the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmRVLsE8iJykaRZuHX6ZL+f2LzZ8N0h_wSRqcd0A8Uwew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nu9wyrBBBgOXcJw0Xixmk-RNOOkZpKUVXGojOWfBB18Eg@mail.gmail.com>
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hi all,

for some reasons, this draft comment
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit
got
stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions
proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the
preferred mechanism.
I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they are
already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision
within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to
that CCWG for feedback.
the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email sent
by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.

Best,

Rafik


Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> hi all,
>
> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the draft
> comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is
>> asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
>> option to support.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New
>> gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
>> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
>> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
>> comment
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
>> .
>>
>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD
>> Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished,
>> we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:
>>
>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred
>> mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>
>> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
>> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
>> specify what changes concern you and why?
>>
>> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider,
>> that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for
>> submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>>
>>
>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on
>> the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures,
>> favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options
>> for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>
>> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
>> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
>> December 2018
>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
>> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>>
>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to
>> ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
>> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
>> within ICANN the organisation.
>>
>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
>> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
>> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
>> these funds. *
>>
>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision
>> making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will
>> deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the
>> CEO and Board.
>>
>>
>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction
>> proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>
>> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
>> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>
>> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is
>> created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be
>> responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>
>>
>> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>>
>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
>> costs)
>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund
>> distribution for projects
>> - Administrative complexity to run
>> - Means for oversight
>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund alloca
>> tion
>> - Risk
>>
>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been
>> clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
>> Proceeds.
>>
>>
>> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
>> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
>> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>
>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>>
>>
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From olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net  Tue Feb 18 12:53:52 2020
From: olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net (Olga Kyryliuk)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:53:52 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final
 Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkMJskbs-O81i3gvMccGwmfjAGummgB3Y4d+w=q_zyMng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nu9wyrBBBgOXcJw0Xixmk-RNOOkZpKUVXGojOWfBB18Eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkRPoBh-9Ha9VkKN2cAGXP9TyVqTxxd-_ixLt23nruNjg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi?Rafik,

I'm fine with the comment.

Best,
Olga

18 ??????? 2020, 02:05:10, ?? "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

hi all,

for some reasons, this draft comment?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit got stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the preferred mechanism.
I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they are already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to that CCWG for feedback.
the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email sent by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.

Best,

Rafik


Le?jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ??06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
hi all,

the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please?review the draft comment.

Best,

Rafik

Le?jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ??13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
Hi all, 
this draft comment is our pipeline?for review and endorsement. Thato is asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the option to support.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
De?: Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ??23:22
Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>


Dear members,

This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds. It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our comment.

This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished, we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:

1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.

2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please specify what changes concern you and why?

3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider, that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for submission to the Chartering Organizations?


NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.

Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)
NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in December 2018, which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.

Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time within ICANN the organisation.

Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the final report under review, it seems like Mechanism B is better as it involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish these funds.

Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the CEO and Board.


Mechanisms in summary under review:
Mechanism A: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.

Mechanism B: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which collaborates with an existing non-profit.

Mechanism C: A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.

Question 2 (Any other concerns)

A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
- Efficiency and effectiveness
- Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
- Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating costs)
- Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
- Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort

- Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
- Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
- Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund distribution for projects
- Administrative complexity to run
- Means for oversight
- Providing transparency and accountability
- Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
- Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund allocation
- Risk

According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction Proceeds.

Question 3 (Any other considerations)
>From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the allocation of Auction Proceeds.

Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.
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From tatiana.tropina at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 13:13:38 2020
From: tatiana.tropina at gmail.com (Tatiana Tropina)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:13:38 +0100
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final
 Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkMJskbs-O81i3gvMccGwmfjAGummgB3Y4d+w=q_zyMng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGZi7Nu9wyrBBBgOXcJw0Xixmk-RNOOkZpKUVXGojOWfBB18Eg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThkRPoBh-9Ha9VkKN2cAGXP9TyVqTxxd-_ixLt23nruNjg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADxLtgcaJqwbYtgEntcUegvzJCf-344-jUvjvzV0v7TUte+uJw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rafik,
as long as your edits are implemented (deletion of wording "racial" and
other) -- I am fine with the document. I couldn't follow the NCSG
discussions on the mechanism we prefer, so I hope the drafted reflected the
position correctly. I guess you would have told us if not.
Cheers,
Tanya

On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 01:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all,
>
> for some reasons, this draft comment
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit got
> stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions
> proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the
> preferred mechanism.
> I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they are
> already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision
> within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to
> that CCWG for feedback.
> the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email
> sent by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the draft
>> comment.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is
>>> asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
>>> option to support.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New
>>> gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>>
>>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
>>> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
>>> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
>>> comment
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
>>> .
>>>
>>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD
>>> Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished,
>>> we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred
>>> mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>>
>>> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
>>> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
>>> specify what changes concern you and why?
>>>
>>> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider,
>>> that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for
>>> submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>>>
>>>
>>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based
>>> on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and
>>> substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3
>>> possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>>
>>> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
>>> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
>>> December 2018
>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
>>> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>>>
>>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to
>>> ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
>>> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
>>> within ICANN the organisation.
>>>
>>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
>>> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
>>> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
>>> these funds. *
>>>
>>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision
>>> making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will
>>> deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the
>>> CEO and Board.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>>> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction
>>> proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>>
>>> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
>>> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>>
>>> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is
>>> created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be
>>> responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>>>
>>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
>>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
>>> costs)
>>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund
>>> distribution for projects
>>> - Administrative complexity to run
>>> - Means for oversight
>>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund alloca
>>> tion
>>> - Risk
>>>
>>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been
>>> clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
>>> Proceeds.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
>>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
>>> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
>>> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>>
>>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From lists at icann.guru  Tue Feb 18 13:16:38 2020
From: lists at icann.guru (James Gannon)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:16:38 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final
 Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CADxLtgcaJqwbYtgEntcUegvzJCf-344-jUvjvzV0v7TUte+uJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADxLtgcaJqwbYtgEntcUegvzJCf-344-jUvjvzV0v7TUte+uJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F184A286-0E5E-4E27-B034-36D8616D36AE@icann.guru>

Lgtm 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Feb 2020, at 11:13, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi Rafik,
> as long as your edits are implemented (deletion of wording "racial" and other) -- I am fine with the document. I couldn't follow the NCSG discussions on the mechanism we prefer, so I hope the drafted reflected the position correctly. I guess you would have told us if not.
> Cheers,
> Tanya 
> 
>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 01:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all,
>> 
>> for some reasons, this draft comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit got stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the preferred mechanism.
>> I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they are already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to that CCWG for feedback.
>> the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email sent by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 
>>> Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>> hi all,
>>> 
>>> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the draft comment.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Rafik
>>> 
>>>> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit :
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the option to support.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear members,
>>>> 
>>>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds. It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our comment.
>>>> 
>>>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New gTLD Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are replenished, we there for request the community to help answer the following 3 questions:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the preferred mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>>> 
>>>> 2.  Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please specify what changes concern you and why?
>>>> 
>>>> 3.  Is there any further information you think the CCWG should consider, that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its report for submission to the Chartering Organizations? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3 possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>>> 
>>>> Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)
>>>> NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in December 2018, which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.
>>>> 
>>>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order to ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time within ICANN the organisation.
>>>> 
>>>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the final report under review, it seems like Mechanism B is better as it involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish these funds. 
>>>> 
>>>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the CEO and Board.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>>>> Mechanism A: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>>> 
>>>> Mechanism B: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>>> 
>>>> Mechanism C: A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>>> 
>>>> Question 2 (Any other concerns)
>>>> 
>>>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>>>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating costs)
>>>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>>>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>>>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>>>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>>>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund distribution for projects
>>>> - Administrative complexity to run
>>>> - Means for oversight
>>>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>>>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>>>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund allocation
>>>> - Risk
>>>> 
>>>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not been clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction Proceeds. 
>>>> 
>>>> Question 3 (Any other considerations)
>>>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>>> 
>>>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Tue Feb 18 13:40:53 2020
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 11:40:53 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] TIME UPDATED: NCSG Policy Committee call on Wednesday 26
 February 2020 at 1200 UTC
Message-ID: <c8cf37c1fdda4890b4faea3c2aed3fb6@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

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From lizorembo at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 15:18:10 2020
From: lizorembo at gmail.com (Liz Orembo)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:18:10 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final
 Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <F184A286-0E5E-4E27-B034-36D8616D36AE@icann.guru>
References: <CADxLtgcaJqwbYtgEntcUegvzJCf-344-jUvjvzV0v7TUte+uJw@mail.gmail.com>
 <F184A286-0E5E-4E27-B034-36D8616D36AE@icann.guru>
Message-ID: <CAHHjpeMNP1HsMf4rW1jxUsZ52=t7o2wAM2t1oHZxFE19iUbKXA@mail.gmail.com>

No objections from me Rafik with the edits in the document.

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 14:16 James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> wrote:

> Lgtm
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18 Feb 2020, at 11:13, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi Rafik,
> as long as your edits are implemented (deletion of wording "racial" and
> other) -- I am fine with the document. I couldn't follow the NCSG
> discussions on the mechanism we prefer, so I hope the drafted reflected the
> position correctly. I guess you would have told us if not.
> Cheers,
> Tanya
>
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 01:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> for some reasons, this draft comment
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit got
>> stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions
>> proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the
>> preferred mechanism.
>> I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they
>> are already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision
>> within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to
>> that CCWG for feedback.
>> the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email
>> sent by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the
>>> draft comment.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato is
>>>> asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
>>>> option to support.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the
>>>> New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
>>>> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>>>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
>>>> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
>>>> comment
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New
>>>> gTLD Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are
>>>> replenished, we there for request the community to help answer the
>>>> following 3 questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the
>>>> preferred mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
>>>> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
>>>> specify what changes concern you and why?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should
>>>> consider, that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its
>>>> report for submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based
>>>> on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and
>>>> substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3
>>>> possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>>>
>>>> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
>>>> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
>>>> December 2018
>>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
>>>> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>>>>
>>>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order
>>>> to ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
>>>> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
>>>> within ICANN the organisation.
>>>>
>>>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
>>>> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
>>>> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
>>>> these funds. *
>>>>
>>>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in decision
>>>> making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department that will
>>>> deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting directly to the
>>>> CEO and Board.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>>>> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of auction
>>>> proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>>>
>>>> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>>>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
>>>> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>>>
>>>> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is
>>>> created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be
>>>> responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>>>>
>>>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>>>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for money)
>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
>>>> costs)
>>>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>>>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>>>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>>>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>>>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund
>>>> distribution for projects
>>>> - Administrative complexity to run
>>>> - Means for oversight
>>>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>>>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>>>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund alloca
>>>> tion
>>>> - Risk
>>>>
>>>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not
>>>> been clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
>>>> Proceeds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
>>>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
>>>> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
>>>> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>>>
>>>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb 19 01:55:37 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 08:55:37 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Urgent][Review] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final
 Report of the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
In-Reply-To: <CAHHjpeMNP1HsMf4rW1jxUsZ52=t7o2wAM2t1oHZxFE19iUbKXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADxLtgcaJqwbYtgEntcUegvzJCf-344-jUvjvzV0v7TUte+uJw@mail.gmail.com>
 <F184A286-0E5E-4E27-B034-36D8616D36AE@icann.guru>
 <CAHHjpeMNP1HsMf4rW1jxUsZ52=t7o2wAM2t1oHZxFE19iUbKXA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThnR4gwBmSsTYw2EWdJQu6VMQ9+6ctsn7za98U5uT-RF3A@mail.gmail.com>

thanks all, the comment was submitted since there was no objection.

Best,

Rafik

Le mar. 18 f?vr. 2020 ? 22:18, Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> a ?crit :

> No objections from me Rafik with the edits in the document.
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 14:16 James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> wrote:
>
>> Lgtm
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 18 Feb 2020, at 11:13, Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hi Rafik,
>> as long as your edits are implemented (deletion of wording "racial" and
>> other) -- I am fine with the document. I couldn't follow the NCSG
>> discussions on the mechanism we prefer, so I hope the drafted reflected the
>> position correctly. I guess you would have told us if not.
>> Cheers,
>> Tanya
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 01:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> for some reasons, this draft comment
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit got
>>> stuck in limbo while it was shared a while ago. it is regarding auctions
>>> proceeds and responding to the questions asked by the team about the
>>> preferred mechanism.
>>> I already reached staff to give some time for late submission but they
>>> are already working on staff summary. so I would like PC to reach decision
>>> within the next 24 hours if possible. We can also ask Julf as our rep to
>>> that CCWG for feedback.
>>> the draft comment is quite short. you can find at the bottom the email
>>> sent by Thato with the questions and issues raised in the draft report.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 6 f?vr. 2020 ? 06:43, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>> ?crit :
>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> the deadline for submission is the 14th February. please review the
>>>> draft comment.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> Le jeu. 16 janv. 2020 ? 13:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>>>> ?crit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> this draft comment is our pipeline for review and endorsement. Thato
>>>>> is asking for help for editing and proofreading, also comments about the
>>>>> option to support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> De : Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: mar. 14 janv. 2020 ? 23:22
>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG Comment on Proposed Final Report of the
>>>>> New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross Community Working Group
>>>>> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear members,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just a call to everyone for discussion and input into the NCSG
>>>>> comment on the final recommendations on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/proposed-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-final-23dec19-en.pdf>.
>>>>> It would help if we can have editors on the document to support our
>>>>> comment
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eyGGPIFFMhVbEpIZQexgXkKO67fU33PZfv7G8HVY6_c/edit>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> This call for community comment on the final recommendations of New
>>>>> gTLD Auction Proceeds will determine how these Auction Proceeds are
>>>>> replenished, we there for request the community to help answer the
>>>>> following 3 questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Do you support the CCWG's recommendation in relation to the
>>>>> preferred mechanism(s)? If no, please provide your rationale for why not.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Do you have any concerns about the updates the CCWG has made, as
>>>>> listed above, in response to the Public Comment forum? If yes, please
>>>>> specify what changes concern you and why?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Is there any further information you think the CCWG should
>>>>> consider, that it hasn't considered previously, in order to finalize its
>>>>> report for submission to the Chartering Organizations?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NCSG submitted a comment on the initial report and it seems like based
>>>>> on the final report, a majority of communities AC's, SO's and
>>>>> substructures, favoured Mechanism A and B, leaving Mechanism C out of 3
>>>>> possible options for the replenishment of New gTLD Auction Proceeds.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Question 1 (Preferred mechanism)*
>>>>> *NCSG preferred Mechanism C according to the initial NCSG comment in
>>>>> December 2018
>>>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/79429792/Initial%20Report%20of%20the%20New%20gTLD%20Auction%20Proceeds%20Cross-Community%20Working%20Group%20-%20NCSG%20comment.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1546455158000&api=v2>,
>>>>> which was an independent ICANN Foundation with its own Board of Directors.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Understandably so, autonomy needs to be exercised and upheld in order
>>>>> to ensure integrity in decision making as opposed to current accountability
>>>>> and transparency issues and discrepancies that emerge from time to time
>>>>> within ICANN the organisation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on the final 2 options, after shortlisting and according to the
>>>>> final report under review, *it seems like Mechanism B is better as it
>>>>> involved an external organisation which will work with ICANN to replenish
>>>>> these funds. *
>>>>>
>>>>> Option A, IMO, is not viable as it compromises independence in
>>>>> decision making, where ICANN might be required to open a new department
>>>>> that will deal solely on replenishments of Auction Proceeds reporting
>>>>> directly to the CEO and Board.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mechanisms in summary under review:
>>>>> *Mechanism A:* An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>>>>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mechanism B*: An internal department dedicated to the allocation of
>>>>> auction proceeds is created within the ICANN organization which
>>>>> collaborates with an existing non-profit.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mechanism C**:* A new charitable structure (ICANN Foundation) is
>>>>> created which is functionally separate from ICANNorg, which would be
>>>>> responsible for the allocation of auction proceeds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Question 2 (Any other concerns)*
>>>>>
>>>>> A criteria was developed to evaluate different mechanisms, namely:
>>>>> - Efficiency and effectiveness
>>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of setting up the mechanism (most value for
>>>>> money)
>>>>> - Cost-effectiveness of running the mechanism (e.g. overhead, operating
>>>>> costs)
>>>>> - Ability to sunset (i.e. terminate / close down)
>>>>> - Ease of setting up in terms of time and effort
>>>>> - Ability to meet legal and fiduciary requirements
>>>>> - Enabling ICANN stakeholder engagement
>>>>> - Efficient means for fund allocation from selection to fund
>>>>> distribution for projects
>>>>> - Administrative complexity to run
>>>>> - Means for oversight
>>>>> - Providing transparency and accountability
>>>>> - Equipped to operate and execute globally distributed projects
>>>>> - Balance of control between ICANN org and independence of fund alloca
>>>>> tion
>>>>> - Risk
>>>>>
>>>>> According to NCSG initial comment the role of the community has not
>>>>> been clearly articulated during the allocation and distribution of Auction
>>>>> Proceeds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Question 3 (Any other considerations)*
>>>>> From me, I would propose that Mechanism A be completely removed and we
>>>>> remain with only B & C, as both options promise independence in the
>>>>> allocation of Auction Proceeds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your input will be highly appreciated, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
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>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Feb 25 01:55:58 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:55:58 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
 Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
 Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmuniZXb+3EEtRd2efd_xgZLkWafghky4AAWDOQSftx2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4b4edc2.c58e04833bf6da0a6ce721fdd977ae8a@mymail.yorku.ca>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=3WLxKoXKF6WXk_5jUuK=U8sxTkTqgR=yBvRO2emqhcQ@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

today is the deadline to submit the comment. please review asap.

Best,

Rafik

Le jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ? 10:28, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> hi all,
>
> we have this draft comment for review.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De : Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>
> Date: jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:27
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
> Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
> Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Please find below the draft comment.
>
> We are looking for your input on the various issues raised, as well as
> input on any other issues which may have slipped by.
>
> Final deadline is 26 Feb., taking off a few days for the policy committee
> review.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>
>> NCSG Colleagues:
>>
>> The 9-Page NCSG Submission last year, with regard to the annual budget,
>> is at:
>> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-fy20-budget-17dec18/attachments/20190209/b80a1d3c/NCSGCommentonBudget-FY20-0001.pdf
>> At its core were the following four requests. *This year?s comments may
>> want to include an assessment of progress in these four areas*, as now
>> reflected in both the annual and five year draft plans.
>>
>> Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair, NCSG Finance Committee
>>
>> ===================
>>
>> The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes this opportunity to
>> comment on ICANN's draft Operating Plan and Budget for the fiscal year
>> 2020. In this comment, we make four requests. We ask that ICANN:
>>
>> ? Look inward at its own overall spending patterns and provide a clearer
>> explanation as to how operational efficiencies will be achieved this
>> year and into the future;
>>
>> ? Provide the community with an appropriate level of support commensurate
>> with our responsibilities under the ICANN Bylaws, including funding a
>> NCPH Intersessional;
>>
>> ? Provide the community with further clarity around who is authorizing
>> spending, where resources are going in the community, and what it costs
>> to fulfil externalities imposed on
>>
>>    ICANN, particularly those by intellectual property interests; and
>>
>> ? Re-evaluate the spend on capacity development programmes for their
>> effectiveness in leading to engagement in ICANN?s policy development
>> processes and mission.
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> *From*: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
>> *To*: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> *Sent*: Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 8:56 PM
>> *Subject*: [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG
>> Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21
>> Operating Plan & Budget
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> resending this call for volunteers if anyone is interested to join the
>> review of budget and operating plan, and participating in drafting the NCSG
>> comment.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 15:04, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
>> ?crit :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> ICANN published a new public consultation on Draft FY21-25 Operating &
>>> Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget. This process is
>>> important for community to share input on budget and financial plan in
>>> order to ensure resources and funding for critical elements such as policy
>>> making in GNSO.
>>>
>>> As group, we are following this more closely understanding the new
>>> powers coming with Empowered Community including budget approval and the
>>> discussion about ICANN financial stability. For more background and
>>> explanation you can find more info here:
>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-opplan-budget-fy21-25-2019-12-20-en
>>>
>>> I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible
>>> to all in order to kick off the discussion and comments:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>>>
>>> Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in
>>> drafting the NCSG comment and join the drafting team. This effort should be
>>> led by NCSG Finance Committee which will work with other volunteers to
>>> draft the NCSG Comment.
>>>
>>> You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki
>>> page
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2019 and
>>> listing those who drafted them.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Rafik Dammak
>>>
>>> NCSG Policy Committee Chair
>>>
>>
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From olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net  Tue Feb 25 17:47:48 2020
From: olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net (Olga Kyryliuk)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 17:47:48 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
 Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
 Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=3WLxKoXKF6WXk_5jUuK=U8sxTkTqgR=yBvRO2emqhcQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4b4edc2.c58e04833bf6da0a6ce721fdd977ae8a@mymail.yorku.ca>
 <CAPZSw-poQZNnR3wnr96nwD7w0MiRTc-stOs1Z7QBukAuT+GmSA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Rafik,

I'm fine with the text subject to your adjustments being incorporated. I also added a closing sentence.

Best,
Olga



25 ??????? 2020, 01:53:50, ?? "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

hi all,

today is the deadline to submit the comment. please review asap.

Best,

Rafik

Le?jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ??10:28, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
hi all, 
we have this draft comment for review.

Best,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ---------
De?: Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>
Date: jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ??09:27
Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>


Hi all 
Please find below the draft comment.?

We are looking for your input on the various issues raised, as well as input on any other issues which may have slipped by.?

Final deadline is 26 Feb., taking off a few days for the policy committee review.?

Thanks,?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA ?

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
NCSG Colleagues: 
The 9-Page NCSG Submission last year, with regard to the annual budget, is at: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-fy20-budget-17dec18/attachments/20190209/b80a1d3c/NCSGCommentonBudget-FY20-0001.pdf At its core were the following four requests. This year?s comments may want to include an assessment of progress in these four areas, as now reflected in both the annual and five year draft plans.
Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair, NCSG Finance Committee
===================
The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes this opportunity to comment on ICANN's draft Operating Plan and Budget for the fiscal year 2020. In this comment, we make four requests. We ask that ICANN:
? Look inward at its own overall spending patterns and provide a clearer explanation as to how operational efficiencies will be achieved this year and into the future;
? Provide the community with an appropriate level of support commensurate with our responsibilities under the ICANN Bylaws, including funding a NCPH Intersessional;
? Provide the community with further clarity around who is authorizing spending, where resources are going in the community, and what it costs to fulfil externalities imposed on
?? ICANN, particularly those by intellectual property interests; and
? Re-evaluate the spend on capacity development programmes for their effectiveness in leading to engagement in ICANN?s policy development processes and mission.

---- Original Message ----
From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 8:56 PM
Subject: [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget

Hi all,

resending this call for volunteers if anyone is interested to join the review of budget and operating plan, and participating in drafting the NCSG comment.

Best,

Rafik

Le?sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ??15:04, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a ?crit?:
Hi all,

ICANN published a new public consultation on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget. This process is important for community to share input on budget and financial plan in order to ensure resources and funding for critical elements?such as policy making in GNSO.?

As group, we are following this more closely understanding the new powers coming with Empowered Community including budget approval and the discussion about ICANN financial stability. For more background and explanation you can find more info here:?https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-opplan-budget-fy21-25-2019-12-20-en

I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible to all in order to kick off the discussion and comments:?https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA

Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in drafting the NCSG comment and join the drafting team. This effort should be led by NCSG Finance Committee which will work with other volunteers to draft the NCSG Comment.

You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki page?https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2019 and listing those who drafted them.??

Best Regards,

Rafik Dammak

NCSG Policy Committee Chair?
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Wed Feb 26 00:15:04 2020
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:15:04 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] REMINDER: NCSG Policy Committee call on Wednesday 26
 February 2020 at 1200 UTC
Message-ID: <670523aa9db14d4abbeb56027e2cf1a2@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Feb 26 02:23:03 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:23:03 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
 Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
 Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
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References: <4b4edc2.c58e04833bf6da0a6ce721fdd977ae8a@mymail.yorku.ca>
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thanks Olga,
I attached the comment I will submit today hearing no objection.

Best,

Rafik


Le mer. 26 f?vr. 2020 ? 00:47, Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net> a
?crit :

> Hi Rafik,
>
> I'm fine with the text subject to your adjustments being incorporated. I
> also added a closing sentence.
>
> Best,
> Olga
>
>
> *25 ??????? 2020, 01:53:50, ?? "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>:*
>
> hi all,
>
> today is the deadline to submit the comment. please review asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ? 10:28, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> hi all,
>
> we have this draft comment for review.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> De : *Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix* <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>
> Date: jeu. 13 f?vr. 2020 ? 09:27
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for
> Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and
> Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget
> To: <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Please find below the draft comment.
>
> We are looking for your input on the various issues raised, as well as
> input on any other issues which may have slipped by.
>
> Final deadline is 26 Feb., taking off a few days for the policy committee
> review.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>
> NCSG Colleagues:
> The 9-Page NCSG Submission last year, with regard to the annual budget, is
> at:
> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/comments-fy20-budget-17dec18/attachments/20190209/b80a1d3c/NCSGCommentonBudget-FY20-0001.pdf
> At its core were the following four requests. This year?s comments may
> want to include an assessment of progress in these four areas, as now
> reflected in both the annual and five year draft plans.
> Sam Lanfranco, Acting Chair, NCSG Finance Committee
> ===================
> The Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) welcomes this opportunity to
> comment on ICANN's draft Operating Plan and Budget for the fiscal year
> 2020. In this comment, we make four requests. We ask that ICANN:
> ? Look inward at its own overall spending patterns and provide a clearer
> explanation as to how operational efficiencies will be achieved this year
> and into the future;
> ? Provide the community with an appropriate level of support commensurate
> with our responsibilities under the ICANN Bylaws, including funding a NCPH
> Intersessional;
> ? Provide the community with further clarity around who is authorizing
> spending, where resources are going in the community, and what it costs to
> fulfil externalities imposed on
>    ICANN, particularly those by intellectual property interests; and
> ? Re-evaluate the spend on capacity development programmes for their
> effectiveness in leading to engagement in ICANN?s policy development
> processes and mission.
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> *From*: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
> *To*: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Sent*: Thu, Jan 2, 2020, 8:56 PM
> *Subject*: [Reminder] [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG
> Comment on Draft FY21-25 Operating & Financial Plan and Draft FY21
> Operating Plan & Budget
>
> Hi all,
>
> resending this call for volunteers if anyone is interested to join the
> review of budget and operating plan, and participating in drafting the NCSG
> comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le sam. 21 d?c. 2019 ? 15:04, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> Hi all,
>
> ICANN published a new public consultation on Draft FY21-25 Operating &
> Financial Plan and Draft FY21 Operating Plan & Budget. This process is
> important for community to share input on budget and financial plan in
> order to ensure resources and funding for critical elements such as policy
> making in GNSO.
>
> As group, we are following this more closely understanding the new powers
> coming with Empowered Community including budget approval and the
> discussion about ICANN financial stability. For more background and
> explanation you can find more info here:
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-opplan-budget-fy21-25-2019-12-20-en
>
> I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible to
> all in order to kick off the discussion and comments:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iJn1u9Bk0J0hUfpDM9bsmQsqI9MegpWVF62Mwf1SBY/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
> Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in drafting
> the NCSG comment and join the drafting team. This effort should be led by
> NCSG Finance Committee which will work with other volunteers to draft the
> NCSG Comment.
>
> You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki page
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2019
> and listing those who drafted them.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik Dammak
>
> NCSG Policy Committee Chair
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Wed Feb 26 13:37:01 2020
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 11:37:01 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] REMINDER: NCSG Policy Committee call on Wednesday 26
 February 2020 at 1200 UTC
Message-ID: <31bd859431cb4a48ad920eac00bfe2d8@PMBX112-E1-VA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>

Dear all,



** REMINDER**



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Other times: https://tinyurl.com/u6chxrz



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From maryam.bakoshi at icann.org  Thu Feb 27 13:22:15 2020
From: maryam.bakoshi at icann.org (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:22:15 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Attendance and Recordings | NCSG Policy Committee Meeting
 | 26 Feb 2020 | 1200 UTC
Message-ID: <5EC77316-8F0B-4DBA-BAEA-E692B0AD0E4C@icann.org>

Dear all,

Please find below attendance and recordings of the NCSG Policy Committee Meeting on Wednesday 26 February 2020 at 1200 UTC.

Attendance: Rafik Dammak, Olga Kyryliuk, Carlos Gutierrez, Ore Lesi, Tatiana Tropina, Liz Orembo | staff: Maryam Bakoshi

Zoom screen: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/tZIvc-2h-mo3G9XEsgSDBaV5W9W_ff6shylPqPdbzBuwBnUHM1fwNbERN-rtL397lhRfnK5qTMl1_Q8o

Audio: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/vJF7dbz9rWg3E4eR4QSDB_B-W464f6-s1XUb8_YIzRyzB3UBMVulb-BEM7BIePT9iY770nP6KS47LqIE

Zoom transcript: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/download/7Jx-fuH7-D43TIXD4wSDBaUvW9TuJqKs13Mb-_cJmEixBXkCYAH3YuZBZeRWU8Mgn076pgZcZel3NllL

Chat: https://icann.zoom.us/rec/download/v8Itc-6r-j03E4WQtASDAfRwW9Xse6is0yJPqaAFzR3gVCIKZAbzYeEaMLMqD1zMy5SafJxijFVgz3JM

Notes:

  *   Coordination with the GNSO Council and NCSG councilors is very important. GNSO Council has evolved and has defined it?s work very clearly. NCSG policy committee members need to be aware of the work NCSG councilors are doing, so as to be able to support them.
     *   NCSG PC to clearly define collaboration and support of NCSG council members.
     *   Proposal of a second call during the month for just Policy committee members for exchange with NCSG Council members.
  *   Clarify ways to identify priority work and create operating procedures.
  *   Formal process for chair election and open call in the PC list. The process should be documented for the future.
  *   Develop a job description / language for the Vice Chair(s) positions.
  *   Develop a workflow / documentation on work that needs to be done and how work is done/allocated within the PC.
  *   Have a way to delegate responsibilities across PC, so Chair is not loaded with work, while others do little (Workflow / Document will help in identifying what needs to be done).
  *   Have others (councilors and others) report to NCSG members on different topics.
  *   Discussion about whether this should be a separate call or not.
  *   General: Currently monthly call needs to be more focused and feature different voices. Thematic webinars are welcome and/or 30min at the monthly call.
  *   Next Steps: Share action items, meeting slides (in particular last slides including ideas) and call recording with NCSG PC members. Schedule regular PC call. Rafik will circulate the old draft for operating procedures.

Many thanks,
--

Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 13:27:35 2020
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:27:35 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Attendance and Recordings | NCSG Policy Committee
 Meeting | 26 Feb 2020 | 1200 UTC
In-Reply-To: <5EC77316-8F0B-4DBA-BAEA-E692B0AD0E4C@icann.org>
References: <5EC77316-8F0B-4DBA-BAEA-E692B0AD0E4C@icann.org>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThn6WvNd+Qc9HtGqLn2Og3AZBF3NHZzFYXzTxENSaaTNHA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi ,

Thanks Maryam for sharing the recordings and note. I will follow-up in a
separate thread about action items and what we discussed during the call.

Best regards,

Rafik

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 20:22 Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Please find below attendance and recordings of the NCSG Policy Committee
> Meeting on Wednesday 26 February 2020 at 1200 UTC.
>
>
>
> *Attendance*: Rafik Dammak, Olga Kyryliuk, Carlos Gutierrez, Ore Lesi,
> Tatiana Tropina, Liz Orembo | staff: Maryam Bakoshi
>
>
>
> *Zoom screen*:
> https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/tZIvc-2h-mo3G9XEsgSDBaV5W9W_ff6shylPqPdbzBuwBnUHM1fwNbERN-rtL397lhRfnK5qTMl1_Q8o
>
>
>
> *Audio:*
> https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/vJF7dbz9rWg3E4eR4QSDB_B-W464f6-s1XUb8_YIzRyzB3UBMVulb-BEM7BIePT9iY770nP6KS47LqIE
>
>
>
> *Zoom transcript*:
> https://icann.zoom.us/rec/download/7Jx-fuH7-D43TIXD4wSDBaUvW9TuJqKs13Mb-_cJmEixBXkCYAH3YuZBZeRWU8Mgn076pgZcZel3NllL
>
>
>
> *Chat*:
> https://icann.zoom.us/rec/download/v8Itc-6r-j03E4WQtASDAfRwW9Xse6is0yJPqaAFzR3gVCIKZAbzYeEaMLMqD1zMy5SafJxijFVgz3JM
>
>
>
> *Notes:*
>
>    - Coordination with the GNSO Council and NCSG councilors is very
>    important. GNSO Council has evolved and has defined it?s work very clearly.
>    NCSG policy committee members need to be aware of the work NCSG councilors
>    are doing, so as to be able to support them.
>       - NCSG PC to clearly define collaboration and support of NCSG
>       council members.
>       - Proposal of a second call during the month for just Policy
>       committee members for exchange with NCSG Council members.
>    - Clarify ways to identify priority work and create operating
>    procedures.
>    - Formal process for chair election and open call in the PC list. The
>    process should be documented for the future.
>    - Develop a job description / language for the Vice Chair(s)
>    positions.
>    - Develop a workflow / documentation on work that needs to be done and
>    how work is done/allocated within the PC.
>    - Have a way to delegate responsibilities across PC, so Chair is not
>    loaded with work, while others do little (Workflow / Document will help in
>    identifying what needs to be done).
>    - Have others (councilors and others) report to NCSG members on
>    different topics.
>    - Discussion about whether this should be a separate call or not.
>    - General: Currently monthly call needs to be more focused and feature
>    different voices. Thematic webinars are welcome and/or 30min at the monthly
>    call.
>    - Next Steps: Share action items, meeting slides (in particular last
>    slides including ideas) and call recording with NCSG PC members. Schedule
>    regular PC call. Rafik will circulate the old draft for operating
>    procedures.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> --
>
>
>
> *Maryam Bakoshi* | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>
> *ICANN* | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> *S*: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | *T*: +44 7846 471777
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca  Fri Feb 28 22:45:25 2020
From: stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca (Stephanie E Perrin)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:45:25 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Meeting with Board in virtual Cancun
Message-ID: <a77b82b1-9a1b-8e30-e8dc-c39a85b07e66@digitaldiscretion.ca>

As you are no doubt aware, we have had two planning meetings for virtual 
cancun this, week, and it is clear we have very little time and a much 
shrunken agenda.? However, we do have to get topics to discuss with the 
Board. Nobody has responded on the list to my call for input, and it is 
due today.

How about this.? the NCSG, reflecting the views of civil society 
generally, would like to comment on a few recent events at ICANN that 
have raised alarm bells in terms of the ongoing affordability and 
sustainability of an open, free, and vigorous DNS.? The first of these 
is the impending sale of .ORG.? We did not raise our concerns about the 
removal of price caps, although a significant proportion of our 
community were dead against this action.? Many others had faith in .ORG, 
and trusted their commitments, We were disappointed to learn of the sale 
in the manner in which? we did, so soon after the removal of the price 
caps.

The second issue is the removal of price caps for .com.? Since .com 
still accounts for 80% of GTLD registrations, how can ICANN justify the 
removal of price caps for such a monopoly registry?
The third issue we want to highlight is the cost of the impending SSAD 
being developed by the EPDP, bearing in mind that the benefits of this 
system have not been balanced against costs, and many of the decisions 
which are driving the high volumes of requests CANNOT be automated.? Is 
the cost of this white elephant [you tell me if that is still an 
acceptable expression, actually I should check that with my most 
culturally aware kid, since after all for a non-english speaker it must 
be hard to keep up with our political correctness.....] driving ICANN to 
permit wholesale price increases in the industry?
3:36 PM
Another topic we wish to raise is the ongoing sustainability of the MS 
model.? You have hinted in the past that travel costs and concern about 
our carbon footprint may dictate fewer face to face meetings.? Given the 
growing complexity of the policy work (cf. the EPDP, which comes on the 
heels of the RDS working group, an exhausting debate highlighted by 
limited progress and much disagreement) we doubt that we can produce 
good results without face to face meetings.? We applaud staff and the 
community for responding quickly to the crisis precipitated by the 
cancellation of the CANCUN meeting, but it is very clear that this 
meting is a pale shadow of a normal ICANN public meeting.? Given the 
strong possibility that ICANN68 will also have to be cancelled due to 
the Corona virus situation, may we suggest that a study group be struck 
to make recommendations about how to improve these virtual meeting and 
make them more accessible to all global players?

I would be grateful for your comments.? IF you discussed it at the 
policy committee that I missed last week, I do apologize, because there 
was no recording I have been unable to catch up.

kind regards, Steph

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