[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Update: Optional Meeting with GAC on IGO CRP

Tue Jun 25 18:00:13 EEST 2019

Hi Arsene,

We’ve been reactive most times. Proactivity could help in a way.

My two cents.

E.
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:48 AM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Elsa, i think for now, let’s follow the conversation closely and use every
> opportunity to not miss any of these conversations.
>
> As Rafik said yesterday, there is nothing we can do for now. But with this
> new agreement, let’s make sure we are part of the drafting team that will
> be tasked to scope this new WG and get our members ready to be represented
> there
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 Jun 2019, at 15:01, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This GAC situation has been very frustrating and I’ve been extremely vocal
> already about it in several of our meetings. Can we make a decision about
> our stance on this ASAP? What do we think is best for this WG? Maybe we
> should consult with our members too about the situation?
>
> I know we’ve talked about it on several of our policy calls, and we’ve
> already discussed this several times, but we haven’t made a decision on a
> pathway forward. Any thoughts?
>
> Best,
>
> Elsa
> —
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:48 AM Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am sure this will not be new for Council members but here is what
>> was pushed by the Council and was able to get from this small meeting:
>>
>> -       Recommendations 1-4 are in Board hands and no one knows what will
>> be
>> the outcome or their decision: it is either rejection (sent back to
>> Council) or adoption and then it becomes a consensus policy. We should
>> not focus on this now.
>>
>> -       GAC seems to not be happy with what has been done so far (Rec #1
>> to
>> #4) and I think they would give everything they can to have a say on
>> these or even see the Board bring them back to Council for discussion.
>>
>> -       Agreed on chartering a new group to work on Rec #5, under the
>> umbrella of RPMs WG, but with its full autonomy.
>>
>> -       With the experience of the EPDP in terms of WG composition,
>> timeline
>> as well as the flexibility and liability that comes with the PDP 3.0,
>> GNSO Council should be able to lead this work.
>>
>> -       This new group should be formed of people with the right expertise
>> and interest in the topic. Should be limited in number and be
>> time-bound to deliver in a timely fashion. NCSG should start thinking
>> about who we will send there.
>>
>> -       Start a small group to keep on discussing: formed with GAC
>> members,
>> interested IGOs and Council members, including Paul who is Council
>> liaison to RPMs WG. When this is formed, NCSG needs to be there as
>> well.
>>
>> This is purely procedural, I cannot report on the substance of the
>> work done and what needs to be done since I am not following this WG
>> closely.
>>
>> @Avri was in the room (from the Board side), maybe you can say something?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arsene
>>
>>
>> 2019-06-24 12:19 UTC+02:00, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Rafik,
>> >
>> > I hate that I did not follow closely this discussion but since we need
>> > someone to be there, I am planning to join and will let you know
>> > anything I get from that informal meeting.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Arsene
>> >
>> > 2019-06-24 10:37 UTC+02:00, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> as I mentioned before I won't be able to attend that session as I will
>> be
>> >> chairing EPDP sessions.
>> >> can someone volunteer who won't be at EPDP or another PDP session to
>> >> attend
>> >> and take notes. while it is about informal discussion, we need to note
>> >> what
>> >> was discussed and suggested there.
>> >> the latest letter from the board is not bad with regard about following
>> >> process by having the public comment for input and not initiating any
>> >> facilitated dialogue yet.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Rafik
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> >> De : Drazek, Keith via council <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> >> Date: lun. 24 juin 2019 à 08:50
>> >> Subject: [council] Update: Optional Meeting with GAC on IGO CRP
>> >> To: council at gnso.icann.org <council at gnso.icann.org>
>> >> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This is a quick update on Tuesday’s 13:30 meeting between interested
>> >> members of the GNSO Council and GAC on the IGO CRP topic. Thanks to
>> those
>> >> of you who have volunteered to attend and contribute to this optional
>> >> session.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As you’ve seen, the ICANN Board sent a letter to both groups indicating
>> >> they will soon be posting Recommendations 1-4 for public comment. In
>> the
>> >> meantime, the Council will continue to explore next steps for
>> >> re-chartering
>> >> the RPM PDP WG to include a dedicated sub-group to consider
>> >> Recommendation
>> >> 5 and the IGO protections issue.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As part of this effort, as scheduled, we will meet with interested
>> >> parties
>> >> from the GAC on Tuesday. I spoke with Manal yesterday and we agreed
>> that
>> >> the session would be most productive if it was informal and focused on
>> >> how
>> >> best to ensure the dedicated sub-team is scoped appropriately. Anyone
>> is
>> >> welcome to attend and observe this session, but we do not plan to
>> record
>> >> it
>> >> and hope an informal dialogue at this time will help to inform our
>> work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Please let me know if you have any questions or if you’d like to
>> >> participate as a contributor to the discussion. We will of course
>> report
>> >> out on the conversation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
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>> GPG: 523644A0
>>
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>> >
>>
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> Elsa Saade
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> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
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Elsa Saade
Consultant
Gulf Centre for Human Rights
Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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