[NCSG-PC] Fw: [council] GNSO Council Leadership Team Correspondence to Mr. Kirikos and Mr. Shatan

[Ayden Férdeline]

I do not think it is appropriate for Council leadership to send correspondence like this without at least giving the Council the courtesy of a briefing. It would be nice to invite our feedback, too. But this is not a new issue, and communication between Council leadership and the Council has been poor for several months now. I do hope this will improve.

Ayden

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On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 6:38 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The letters were drafted within council leadership team, feedback was shared but there was no a formal legal review or advice other than what was sent prior to Kobe meeting.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mar. 2 avr. 2019 à 12:35, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Thanks Rafik. I understand how this came about. I'm just wondering if the drafting of these exchanges by the leadership team are being reviewed by any entity for legal advice prior to sending to the two parties? Or if the drafting is being based solely on the developments and language used in previous communication.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:18 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am not sure to understand the question but I will try to respond. The letters include references to the correspondence received from ICANN legal council regarding the enforcement of expected standard of behavior by PDP WG leadership and also explanation about the background leading to the actions. The ICANN legal counsel was reached to give guidance regarding the enforceability of ESB as it was challenged. The whole process started when the GNSO OP process section 3.4 initiated by complain from Greg Shatan against Georges Kirkios and having council leadership involvement by co-chairs request (it was with the previous council leadership team in May/June and so this handed over to current team).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le mar. 2 avr. 2019 à 03:51, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> So I do have a question about this! Is leadership basing the correspondence on legal advice? Only on GNSO OP basis? Or what exactly?
>>>>
>>>> E.
>>>> —
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:26 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> it is the GNSO Council leadership sending the letters, not the council.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le sam. 30 mars 2019 à 19:50, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharing for information purposes. The first time that I've heard that the GNSO Council was sending such correspondence is after it has already been sent...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Friday, March 29, 2019 7:39 PM, Drazek, Keith via council <council at gnso.icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keeping everyone informed of the latest developments, today I delivered the attached letters concerning enforcement of ICANN’s Expected Standards of Behavior to Mr. Kirikos and Mr. Shatan. Let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Elsa Saade
>>>> Consultant
>>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
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>>
>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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