[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods

[farzaneh badii]

are we talking about transcription in languages other than English?

transcription of formal meetings in English makes sense, it has been
helpful. I don't think it makes sense to have transcription in other
languages. but I am not sure that is being debated.

Farzaneh


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:41 PM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that transcript in other languages would be good in almost every
> mesure posible, specially if we have AI and bulk prices on it. At least is
> worth asking staff how that impact this one time on Budget.
>
> Cheers,
> Martín
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 19:37 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are the costs high? Are we not using AI? Which languages are we
>> transcribing to?  Perhaps Mr. Neylon could tell us more about the
>> disproportionate costs?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:31 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will need back up here from Councillors.
>>>
>>> This is important. We need transcription.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight<michele at blacknight.com>
>>> Date: On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 19:28
>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods
>>> To: Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>,epdp-dt at icann.org <
>>> epdp-dt at icann.org>
>>> Cc:
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree with the transcription of all meetings. The costs involved
>>> with that are disproportionately high and ICANN funds would be better
>>> directed elsewhere
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with most of your other points.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michele
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *Epdp-dt <epdp-dt-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Ayden
>>> Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 17:34
>>> *To: *"epdp-dt at icann.org" <epdp-dt at icann.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Epdp-dt] Working Methods
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to request several revisions be made to the EPDP Working
>>> Methods please:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *1) All meetings must be recorded and transcribed.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please revise this text from:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *In addition to the standard services provided to GNSO PDP Working
>>> Groups such as policy staff support, mailing lists and regular conference
>>> calls, including recording and transcription where needed (frequency and
>>> duration to be decided by EPDP team), the EPDP team will need appropriate
>>> support to:*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *All calls of the EPDP must be recorded and transcribed, and said
>>> recordings and call transcriptions must be publicly accessible from the
>>> ICANN website. Standard support offered to GNSO PDP Working Groups,
>>> including but not limited to the provision of a wiki space, archived
>>> mailing lists, and conference call facilities, will be required. In
>>> addition, the EPDP will need appropriate support to:*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *2) Google Docs may only be used in conjunction with Google Vault.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please revise the text from:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility
>>> to facilitate online collaboration, such as the wiki and Google docs.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility
>>> to facilitate online collaboration, but it must do so in accordance with
>>> the principles of accountability and transparency that are so important to
>>> the GNSO. If Google Docs or other G Suite products are used, it must be
>>> used in conjunction with Google Vault, which logs data for archival
>>> purposes. Similarly, if other tools are used, they may be used only if they
>>> preserve information to a level that meets or exceeds eDiscovery standards
>>> in California, being the location of ICANN's headquarters.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *3) Translation of executive summary and recommendations of the initial
>>> report for public comment, and of the entire final report, into ICANN's
>>> official languages.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Suggested text:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *The substantive work of the EPDP must be translated into ICANN's
>>> official languages in order to provide non-English-fluent stakeholders with
>>> an equal level of access to review the work of the EPDP. For the initial
>>> report(s), this must consist of the executive summary and recommendations,
>>> and for the final report, this must be a translation of the entire report.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>
>>>
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