From stephanie.perrin  Mon Apr 16 10:19:20 2018
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 03:19:20 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [Accred-Model] CPH GDPR Discussion Group Feedback on
 BC/IPC Accreditation Model
In-Reply-To: <4432659c-b82e-868b-0948-0d666c41fc2d@tucows.com>
References: <4432659c-b82e-868b-0948-0d666c41fc2d@tucows.com>
Message-ID: <198cb381-a9d6-725f-0f71-6544df2f2309@mail.utoronto.ca>

In case you guys did not see this, possibly worth a read

steph



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Subject: 	[Accred-Model] CPH GDPR Discussion Group Feedback on BC/IPC 
Accreditation Model
Date: 	Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:37:35 -0400
From: 	Graeme Bunton <gbunton at tucows.com>
To: 	accred-model at icann.org



Hello All,

The CPH GDPR Discussion Group would like to share the attached initial 
feedback on the BC/IPC's proposed accreditation model.

Regards,

Graeme Bunton

RrSG Chair

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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sun Apr  1 23:42:06 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 16:42:06 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Urgent review of Draft comments
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Message-ID: <CAN1qJvCKSs=6X-TwLvkfE7eCTcY2b067ccDgmz+HUYTsbDfweA@mail.gmail.com>

I am fine with the KSK rollover public comment.



Farzaneh

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> Thanks for following up.
>
> RE: the KSK rollover comment, I have no objections to it being submitted.
>
> RE: community gTLD change requests, I don't think it is ready for
> submission just yet. Unfortunately I am not tracking this issue so am
> unable to beef up the text.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 30 March 2018 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we have 2 public comments with next Monday as a deadline:
>
>    - KSK Rollover Process : https://docs.google.com/docu
>    ment/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit>
>    - Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests:
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU
>    2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679>
>
> we need to review and endorse those comments soon. I asked for an
> extension for the latter as it needs some work while the former is in a
> good shape. Proofreading would be helpful.
>
> please respond asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Sun Apr  1 23:49:06 2018
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 22:49:06 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Urgent review of Draft comments
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvCKSs=6X-TwLvkfE7eCTcY2b067ccDgmz+HUYTsbDfweA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThmv5HP+Bvoj=2VMeRD1F_GHK3tQrqkg8V4wER6MT2HbxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <nAd9ZuRP3MT2uikZU_Nw2G5fVF9jrTOU0t5m_ywDd1Hw_iJkSH9ApuaXFWVZufBor3UrehOS0h8m47Si3AoduAMG2AyMxI3rYWsUtDapmDw=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <CABDXvWrkaT7LLmO+=zXqDvtCwYxYLQ56s=LTDG2ZFRPJ_7QAjw@mail.gmail.com>

Fine as well with the KSK Rollover comment.
Will need a bit more time to read the second comment.

------------------------
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<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
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2018-04-01 21:42 GMT+01:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:

> I am fine with the KSK rollover public comment.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> Thanks for following up.
>>
>> RE: the KSK rollover comment, I have no objections to it being submitted.
>>
>> RE: community gTLD change requests, I don't think it is ready for
>> submission just yet. Unfortunately I am not tracking this issue so am
>> unable to beef up the text.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 30 March 2018 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we have 2 public comments with next Monday as a deadline:
>>
>>    - KSK Rollover Process : https://docs.google.com/docu
>>    ment/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit>
>>    - Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests:
>>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU
>>    2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679>
>>
>> we need to review and endorse those comments soon. I asked for an
>> extension for the latter as it needs some work while the former is in a
>> good shape. Proofreading would be helpful.
>>
>> please respond asap.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Apr  2 02:35:47 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 08:35:47 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Urgent review of Draft comments
In-Reply-To: <nAd9ZuRP3MT2uikZU_Nw2G5fVF9jrTOU0t5m_ywDd1Hw_iJkSH9ApuaXFWVZufBor3UrehOS0h8m47Si3AoduAMG2AyMxI3rYWsUtDapmDw=@ferdeline.com>
References: <CAH5sThmv5HP+Bvoj=2VMeRD1F_GHK3tQrqkg8V4wER6MT2HbxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <nAd9ZuRP3MT2uikZU_Nw2G5fVF9jrTOU0t5m_ywDd1Hw_iJkSH9ApuaXFWVZufBor3UrehOS0h8m47Si3AoduAMG2AyMxI3rYWsUtDapmDw=@ferdeline.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkTdYfr_qXk9z8A-Ko9y5jCy9-w4pu0B_xi6Q6UTKBfwA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Thanks for the support expressed in the list. waiting for other members to
weigh in. hearing no strong objection by the deadline I will submit the
comment for KSK plan (final version attached).
I will also thank the drafting team for the work and dealing with the
comments received in the doc.

for the community change requests, if someone wants to help, we can work to
shape it. I already asked for an extension this weekend (waiting for
confirmation). I followed the issue when it was tabled to council but still
need to review the report.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-01 3:10 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> Thanks for following up.
>
> RE: the KSK rollover comment, I have no objections to it being submitted.
>
> RE: community gTLD change requests, I don't think it is ready for
> submission just yet. Unfortunately I am not tracking this issue so am
> unable to beef up the text.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 30 March 2018 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we have 2 public comments with next Monday as a deadline:
>
>    - KSK Rollover Process : https://docs.google.com/docu
>    ment/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit>
>    - Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests:
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU
>    2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679>
>
> we need to review and endorse those comments soon. I asked for an
> extension for the latter as it needs some work while the former is in a
> good shape. Proofreading would be helpful.
>
> please respond asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
>
>
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  2 17:39:51 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 14:39:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Urgent review of Draft comments
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkTdYfr_qXk9z8A-Ko9y5jCy9-w4pu0B_xi6Q6UTKBfwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThmv5HP+Bvoj=2VMeRD1F_GHK3tQrqkg8V4wER6MT2HbxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <nAd9ZuRP3MT2uikZU_Nw2G5fVF9jrTOU0t5m_ywDd1Hw_iJkSH9ApuaXFWVZufBor3UrehOS0h8m47Si3AoduAMG2AyMxI3rYWsUtDapmDw=@ferdeline.com>
 <CAH5sThkTdYfr_qXk9z8A-Ko9y5jCy9-w4pu0B_xi6Q6UTKBfwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <286791667.625497.1522679991249@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone!?I also support KSK Rollover comment
Best regards
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaCommunications Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El domingo, 1 de abril de 2018 6:36:21 p. m. GMT-5, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escribi?:  
 
 Hi all,
Thanks for the support expressed in the list. waiting for other members to weigh in. hearing no strong objection by the deadline I will submit the comment for KSK plan (final version attached).I will also thank the drafting team for the work and dealing with the comments received in the doc.
for the community change requests, if someone wants to help, we can work to shape it. I already asked for an extension this weekend (waiting for confirmation). I followed the issue when it was tabled to council?but still need to review the report.
Best,
Rafik
2018-04-01 3:10 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

Hi Rafik,

Thanks for following up.

RE: the KSK rollover comment, I have no objections to it being submitted.

RE: community gTLD change requests, I don't think it is ready for submission just yet. Unfortunately I am not tracking this issue so am unable to beef up the text.

Best wishes,

Ayden??


??????? Original Message ???????
 On 30 March 2018 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
 

Hi all,

we have 2 public comments with next Monday as a deadline:
   
   - KSK Rollover Process :?https://docs.google.com/docu ment/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAd gyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit   

   - Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests:?https://docs.google. com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU 2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/ edit?ts=5a8ac679   

we need to review and endorse those comments soon. I asked for an extension for the latter as it needs some work while the former is in a good shape. Proofreading would be helpful.

please respond asap.

Best,

Rafik

?




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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 02:02:26 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 08:02:26 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Urgent review of Draft comments
In-Reply-To: <286791667.625497.1522679991249@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAH5sThmv5HP+Bvoj=2VMeRD1F_GHK3tQrqkg8V4wER6MT2HbxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <nAd9ZuRP3MT2uikZU_Nw2G5fVF9jrTOU0t5m_ywDd1Hw_iJkSH9ApuaXFWVZufBor3UrehOS0h8m47Si3AoduAMG2AyMxI3rYWsUtDapmDw=@ferdeline.com>
 <CAH5sThkTdYfr_qXk9z8A-Ko9y5jCy9-w4pu0B_xi6Q6UTKBfwA@mail.gmail.com>
 <286791667.625497.1522679991249@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkuT=kF7xAF0UfG0kiDvM7qPe5BCRirwfpwHL2RmxMEUA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,


with support from Ayden, Arsene, Farzaneh, Juan and no objection, the
comment can be considered as endorsed. I will submit it just before the
deadline.
we got an extension for community gTLD change.
Thanks,

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-02 23:39 GMT+09:00 Juan Manuel Rojas <jumaropi at yahoo.com>:

> Hi everyone!
> I also support KSK Rollover comment
>
> Best regards
>
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Communications Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns
> Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>
> Cel. +57 3017435600 <+57%20301%207435600>
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El domingo, 1 de abril de 2018 6:36:21 p. m. GMT-5, Rafik Dammak <
> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escribi?:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for the support expressed in the list. waiting for other members to
> weigh in. hearing no strong objection by the deadline I will submit the
> comment for KSK plan (final version attached).
> I will also thank the drafting team for the work and dealing with the
> comments received in the doc.
>
> for the community change requests, if someone wants to help, we can work
> to shape it. I already asked for an extension this weekend (waiting for
> confirmation). I followed the issue when it was tabled to council but still
> need to review the report.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-01 3:10 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
> Hi Rafik,
>
> Thanks for following up.
>
> RE: the KSK rollover comment, I have no objections to it being submitted.
>
> RE: community gTLD change requests, I don't think it is ready for
> submission just yet. Unfortunately I am not tracking this issue so am
> unable to beef up the text.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 30 March 2018 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we have 2 public comments with next Monday as a deadline:
>
>    - KSK Rollover Process : https://docs.google.com/docu
>    ment/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAd gyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VNxn4UJlk8z196Kz56ucAdgyWp0ua9NmdHexRE1Wkhc/edit>
>    - Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests: https://docs.google.
>    com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU 2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/
>    edit?ts=5a8ac679
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679>
>
> we need to review and endorse those comments soon. I asked for an
> extension for the latter as it needs some work while the former is in a
> good shape. Proofreading would be helpful.
>
> please respond asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 00:57:39 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 21:57:39 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has
written a response on ipc bc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA


We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.

Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it
that way not sure it went through)
-- 
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Wed Apr  4 01:03:13 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 00:03:13 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
Message-ID: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>

Dear All,

Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I participated in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to guide people who will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It can also helps us within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a common framework. Most of the contents derived from the course which was very appreciated by all the participants.

Please see the document here <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing>   
The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can help improve it.
The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing a comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more questions or modify the existing ones.



@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
Technology Champion & Chapter Head
Africa 2.0 Foundation.
farell at benin2point0.org 
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From dgdorothydg at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 01:42:11 2018
From: dgdorothydg at gmail.com (dorothy g)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:42:11 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
In-Reply-To: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
References: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
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Good job Farell. I am sure people will find this helpful. My first point
would be most people will not read long comments. A few staffers have no
choice but to read them and summarize them. Our goal should be to be
succinct.  This usually takes more effort but it should help us to be clear
and less subject to misinterpretation.  We should also avoid emotional
statements (in general).

My next question would be, how do we evaluate the effectiveness of a public
comment? How often are our concerns taken into account in final decision
making? In drafting comments we need to understand the policy context and
mindset of the eventual decision makers.

best

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I participated
> in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to guide people who
> will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It can also helps us
> within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a common framework.
> Most of the contents derived from the course which was very appreciated by
> all the participants.
>
> Please see the document here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing>
>
>
>    1. The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while
>    drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can
>    help improve it.
>    2. The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing a
>    comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more
>    questions or modify the existing ones.
>
>
>
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> farell at benin2point0.org
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:13:37 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:13:37 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
In-Reply-To: <CAH2xXE4mW4NFDZBbg5oWpFmG76Uc-BTzhsfJvoWnab8T0ddrmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
 <CAH2xXE4mW4NFDZBbg5oWpFmG76Uc-BTzhsfJvoWnab8T0ddrmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThnJ7nY7UjGRFhkyX34uC+6SS-cjW8OC04L-X+9etM1+5A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dorothy,

if I may respond to the questions:

2018-04-04 7:42 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com>:

> Good job Farell. I am sure people will find this helpful. My first point
> would be most people will not read long comments. A few staffers have no
> choice but to read them and summarize them. Our goal should be to be
> succinct.  This usually takes more effort but it should help us to be clear
> and less subject to misinterpretation.  We should also avoid emotional
> statements (in general).
>
>
staff will summarize all comments in report within few weeks from the the
closure of public comment. to be  honest, I don't have strong opinion about
having passionate comments or not because at the end all comments are
summarize and consolidate, so tone may not important. The WG members will
review the summary and decide based on all comments to make revision to
report or not (it depends of the stage, it is easier to influence a initial
report than a final report) . I think the length may be correlated to the
length of report itself and its complexity (how many areas it covers e.g.
the budget and operation plan). Few recommendations won't raise so much
comments but if we have around 20 or more recommendations , we should
expect longer response as we may even propose change on wording or go into
(devil) details. I guess at the end we will have to find balance and from
previous comments submitted by NCSG, few were long (budget, CCT-RT )



> My next question would be, how do we evaluate the effectiveness of a
> public comment? How often are our concerns taken into account in final
> decision making? In drafting comments we need to understand the policy
> context and mindset of the eventual decision makers.
>
>
short answer: it depends.
Public comment is a tool and milestone within a whole process and long
lifecycle. If we assume different levels of effectiveness, I would say the
best is to have active members  of WG from the beginning and volunteering
to be penholder within a subgroup, that ensures that we can steer and shape
discussion.  They can influence the process from inside and public comment
can helpful for them to push in some direction and support their position.

that is why we encourage and try to be present in all working groups (PDP
or CCWG) and worked to some extent like in CCWG accountability.  those
members can also ensure that our comments are reviewed and considered in
the recommendations revisions. They also can support for drafting comments
and guide other volunteers. we usually found more issues to respond to
comment where we dont have coverage or not really PDP process. there are
other public consultations initated by staff and ICANN as organization and
so the public comment is the only mean to input and influence the process.

I usually check the staff report and amiling list archives to check if our
comments were considered but we need better follow-up maybe from the
drafters and/or members  of WGs in particular for the comments review in WG
deliberations.

Best,

Rafik



>
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I
>> participated in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to
>> guide people who will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It
>> can also helps us within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a
>> common framework. Most of the contents derived from the course which was
>> very appreciated by all the participants.
>>
>> Please see the document here
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>>
>>    1. The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while
>>    drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can
>>    help improve it.
>>    2. The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing
>>    a comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more
>>    questions or modify the existing ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:16:24 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:16:24 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
In-Reply-To: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
References: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=ScM-3RTy-uzJsKKAzLSHGRShR+q1isOYzO6Ay6e720w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Farell,

thanks for the proposal, I started my review there.
I thought we can use BC template but I think we can have better. maybe
something we can add is tracking and versioning in the document. but since
we are using google doc and not word doc, it may be not necessary. We can
also may add some letterhead with NCSG logo and Name but that is quite
optional :)

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-04 7:03 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:

> Dear All,
>
> Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I participated
> in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to guide people who
> will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It can also helps us
> within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a common framework.
> Most of the contents derived from the course which was very appreciated by
> all the participants.
>
> Please see the document here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing>
>
>
>    1. The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while
>    drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can
>    help improve it.
>    2. The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing a
>    comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more
>    questions or modify the existing ones.
>
>
>
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> farell at benin2point0.org
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:24:41 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:24:41 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Farzaneh,

thanks for this.
I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:

> Hi all
>
> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has
> written a response on ipc bc
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oib
> uV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>
>
> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>
> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it
> that way not sure it went through)
> --
> Farzaneh
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From dgdorothydg at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:31:51 2018
From: dgdorothydg at gmail.com (dorothy g)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 23:31:51 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=ScM-3RTy-uzJsKKAzLSHGRShR+q1isOYzO6Ay6e720w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
 <CAH5sTh=ScM-3RTy-uzJsKKAzLSHGRShR+q1isOYzO6Ay6e720w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH2xXE7LbC+zoXoRq=qUqP9pLCRV=CaTP5hYRvNwVTfAN4T7Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks I suggest we build this into the guidelines. Your responses were
helpful, reminding us of the whole process.
best

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Farell,
>
> thanks for the proposal, I started my review there.
> I thought we can use BC template but I think we can have better. maybe
> something we can add is tracking and versioning in the document. but since
> we are using google doc and not word doc, it may be not necessary. We can
> also may add some letterhead with NCSG logo and Name but that is quite
> optional :)
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-04 7:03 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I
>> participated in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to
>> guide people who will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It
>> can also helps us within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a
>> common framework. Most of the contents derived from the course which was
>> very appreciated by all the participants.
>>
>> Please see the document here
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>>
>>    1. The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while
>>    drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can
>>    help improve it.
>>    2. The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing
>>    a comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more
>>    questions or modify the existing ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Wed Apr  4 02:38:37 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:38:37 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>

Hi,

I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.

The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.

I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...

Best wishes,

Ayden

P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Farzaneh,
>
> thanks for this.
> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>
>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>
>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>
>> Farzaneh
>> ______________________________ _________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:40:47 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:40:47 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
Message-ID: <2A2A587E-F923-43DD-A72E-EA92418F411D@gmail.com>

I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.

Cheers,
Mart?n

> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.  
> 
> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission. 
> 
> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ayden
> 
> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>> 
>> thanks for this.
>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>: 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc 
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>> 
>> 
>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting. 
>> 
>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) 
>> -- 
>> Farzaneh
>> 
>> ______________________________ _________________ 
>> NCSG-PC mailing list 
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is> 
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc> 
>> 
>> 
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:42:43 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:42:43 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Resuming work on NCSG Policy Committee procedures
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkfXf66=jHRvpSXHd8EAwY4HCQ5SMQS=UXyNXOMcEDnuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

We discussed several times about PC working methods and procedures. it is a
kind overdue task. Last time, I volunteered to work on that and we had some
early draft with several areas that need more elaboration, thanks to those
who made comments already
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_M4wBGVEyXm30m79olplfF0RNkJnDwaVBBeldDfO8U/edit#
.

I want to take this opportunity to resume the discussion and work on the
draft to outline different procedures and guidelines. the document list
several procedures to detail.

One urgent procedure to agree on is the NCSG PC chair and vice-chair
selection. we have to get that done and conduct election soon.


Best Regards,

Rafik
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Wed Apr  4 02:44:01 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:44:01 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Proposal : Quick Guidelines for Public Comment Writing
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=ScM-3RTy-uzJsKKAzLSHGRShR+q1isOYzO6Ay6e720w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0CFD3CEC-5C25-4B1A-862C-5FDAB17DD61B@benin2point0.org>
 <CAH5sTh=ScM-3RTy-uzJsKKAzLSHGRShR+q1isOYzO6Ay6e720w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <sVrHhB3crT2r7HEFG66fsyVbIlygLXaxABYQTuZ18BrlSrrPHe7CfE8zlVhMNnoJjDl25IPjOjeQnsnZ57D27iWe68QsP7MjmJ5k3_C9ifY=@ferdeline.com>

I do like the idea of getting some document control in place; ie the publication / approval date, and logging any later corrections (if applicable).

However I am not a fan of a letterhead / branding template for comments. I think that would look a bit odd. I worry it couod be seen as style over substance.

Personally I like comments on white paper, Times New Roman size 12, with numbered paragraphs so that arguments can easily be cited. Clean, simple, and everyone and all word processing programs are able to create documents like this too... :-)

Ayden

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:16, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Farell,
>
> thanks for the proposal, I started my review there.
> I thought we can use BC template but I think we can have better. maybe something we can add is tracking and versioning in the document. but since we are using google doc and not word doc, it may be not necessary. We can also may add some letterhead with NCSG logo and Name but that is quite optional :)
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-04 7:03 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Following The NCUC Policy and Public Comment Writing Course I participated in in San Juan, I committed to suggest a few guidelines to guide people who will volunteer to draft public comments in the future. It can also helps us within the PC to quickly assess a document by using a common framework. Most of the contents derived from the course which was very appreciated by all the participants.
>>
>> Please see the document [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1-Kuw_nS6uul7f3P-z6C3EopU8s3QP_BZhS0PRnm0o/edit?usp=sharing)
>>
>> - The first page briefly outlines the key point to focus on while drafting a comment : Feel free to comment or make any suggestion that can help improve it.
>> - The second page is intended to help the new drafter start writing a comment by answering the questions directly : feel free to add more questions or modify the existing ones.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ______________________________ ______
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>> ______________________________ _________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 02:46:15 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 08:46:15 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Resuming work on NCSG Policy Committee procedures
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkfXf66=jHRvpSXHd8EAwY4HCQ5SMQS=UXyNXOMcEDnuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThkfXf66=jHRvpSXHd8EAwY4HCQ5SMQS=UXyNXOMcEDnuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThkczVcUV+Rh-Hm4VfCYe8s-ZA0W_Qh51BuXmS9NyPVTcA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I wanted to add that I am looking for comments from PC member in the
current draft and their suggestions for missing parts.

Best.

Rafik

2018-04-04 8:42 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> We discussed several times about PC working methods and procedures. it is
> a kind overdue task. Last time, I volunteered to work on that and we had
> some early draft with several areas that need more elaboration, thanks to
> those who made comments already https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G_
> M4wBGVEyXm30m79olplfF0RNkJnDwaVBBeldDfO8U/edit#.
>
> I want to take this opportunity to resume the discussion and work on the
> draft to outline different procedures and guidelines. the document list
> several procedures to detail.
>
> One urgent procedure to agree on is the NCSG PC chair and vice-chair
> selection. we have to get that done and conduct election soon.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Wed Apr  4 05:09:28 2018
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:09:28 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <2A2A587E-F923-43DD-A72E-EA92418F411D@gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>

Hi All,

Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few 
comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for 
his review!

Back to the PC to continue review...

Best, Kathy


On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good 
> to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>
> Cheers,
> Mart?n
>
>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested 
>> edits. Some are substantive changes?but all are in the same spirit of 
>> the original text.
>>
>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be 
>> corrected prior to submission.
>>
>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is 
>> missing at the moment...
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>
>>> thanks for this.
>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>     Hi all
>>>
>>>     Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy
>>>     has written a response on ipc bc
>>>
>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>
>>>     Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode
>>>     (i set it that way not sure it went through)
>>>     -- 
>>>     Farzaneh
>>>
>>>     ______________________________ _________________
>>>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From farell at benin2point0.org  Wed Apr  4 21:03:03 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 20:03:03 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
 <2A2A587E-F923-43DD-A72E-EA92418F411D@gmail.com>
 <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
Message-ID: <80D31266-8BEB-4F0A-AB54-DD5BB26D5BA7@benin2point0.org>

I am not that expert in IP. As so, I went through the doc and made only some minor changes - typically typos ;)

BTW, good job Farzi for drafting this and thanks to all those who contributed.


@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
Technology Champion & Chapter Head
Africa 2.0 Foundation.
farell at benin2point0.org 
www.africa2point0.org
linkedin.com/in/farellf
twitter.com/@__f_f__






> On 4 Apr 2018, at 04:09, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at KATHYKLEIMAN.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
> 
> Back to the PC to continue review...
> 
> Best, Kathy
> 
> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mart?n
>> 
>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.  
>>> 
>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission. 
>>> 
>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Ayden
>>> 
>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for this.
>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 
>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>: 
>>>> Hi all 
>>>> 
>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc 
>>>> 
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting. 
>>>> 
>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Farzaneh
>>>> 
>>>> ______________________________ _________________ 
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list 
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is> 
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 01:17:59 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 18:17:59 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
 <2A2A587E-F923-43DD-A72E-EA92418F411D@gmail.com>
 <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
Message-ID: <jfIMudZT8ftAg2r1CLB43oJE1qRucP9Jj9AGGyyFKFgLwW2weqhGnHHgOPVzfquHyXDY2k-fmX8PbUIX4UrLmZhrtd1Yq4xPD3wLlNPBAGc=@ferdeline.com>

I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?

-- Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>
> Back to the PC to continue review...
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>
>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mart?n
>>
>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>
>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>
>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for this.
>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Fri Apr  6 01:27:04 2018
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:27:04 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <jfIMudZT8ftAg2r1CLB43oJE1qRucP9Jj9AGGyyFKFgLwW2weqhGnHHgOPVzfquHyXDY2k-fmX8PbUIX4UrLmZhrtd1Yq4xPD3wLlNPBAGc=@ferdeline.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
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 <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
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Message-ID: <8da76e9a-a0e7-1ffb-e0a0-3d13c64e6ff2@kathykleiman.com>

Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran 
and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm 
asked for "comments.'

/I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen 
to have it?/

All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of 
the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented 
citations easy :-).? No more edits, please.? I'll have this over to 
Rafik and Farzi shortly.

Best, Kathy


On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being 
> accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and 
> getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to 
> ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, 
> with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>
> -- Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few 
>> comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin 
>> for his review!
>>
>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks 
>>> good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mart?n
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested 
>>>> edits. Some are substantive changes?but all are in the same spirit 
>>>> of the original text.
>>>>
>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be 
>>>> corrected prior to submission.
>>>>
>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is 
>>>> missing at the moment...
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>>     Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct.
>>>>>     Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion
>>>>>     mode (i set it that way not sure it went through)
>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>
>>>>>     Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>

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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 01:30:42 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 18:30:42 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
In-Reply-To: <8da76e9a-a0e7-1ffb-e0a0-3d13c64e6ff2@kathykleiman.com>
References: <CAN1qJvChzpe8_qdobE_fq7FF_mjTZS_ub4JGA=F9XwdVMSmV2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sTh=wmXVPOpZZAx_pt9Zc-N-w_bvvkjObEHCkxDSzTpTPeg@mail.gmail.com>
 <KQGTw41m7n88_cji4OJFqev7cazVd6vEDiOFuu9eugRi9DQEEPyTjVmWi2U1B3fLVKou-6ePqzy7KEz6La9zpCCgqOvrqDWZncxeWxoRkI8=@ferdeline.com>
 <2A2A587E-F923-43DD-A72E-EA92418F411D@gmail.com>
 <dfe251f9-f701-d274-37b3-17892a9a0958@kathykleiman.com>
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They have asked that comments be sent to:

stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to internet at winterfeldt.law.

I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:

> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>
> I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to have it?
>
> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations easy :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>
>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>
>> -- Ayden
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>
>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>
>>> Best, Kathy
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mart?n
>>>>
>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>
>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Fri Apr  6 01:36:38 2018
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:36:38 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to 
winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?

Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...

Best, Kathy


On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>
> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model 
> proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, with 
> a copy tointernet at winterfeldt.law <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>
>
> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd 
> simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and 
>> Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his 
>> law firm asked for "comments.'
>>
>> /I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you 
>> happen to have it?/
>>
>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check 
>> of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented 
>> citations easy :-).? No more edits, please. I'll have this over to 
>> Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>>
>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are 
>>> being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document 
>>> and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the 
>>> time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC 
>>> President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>
>>> -- Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few 
>>>> comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to 
>>>> Martin for his review!
>>>>
>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>
>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks 
>>>>> good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested 
>>>>>> edits. Some are substantive changes?but all are in the same 
>>>>>> spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be 
>>>>>> corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is 
>>>>>> missing at the moment...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak 
>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii 
>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct.
>>>>>>>     Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion
>>>>>>>     mode (i set it that way not sure it went through)
>>>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Farzaneh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Fri Apr  6 02:03:14 2018
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:03:14 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR 
address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.

Stephanie

On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>
> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to 
> winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>
> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>
> Best, Kathy
>
>
> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>
>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model 
>> proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, with 
>> a copy tointernet at winterfeldt.law <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>>
>>
>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd 
>> simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and 
>>> Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his 
>>> law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>
>>> /I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you 
>>> happen to have it?/
>>>
>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check 
>>> of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented 
>>> citations easy :-).? No more edits, please.? I'll have this over to 
>>> Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>
>>> Best, Kathy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are 
>>>> being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document 
>>>> and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the 
>>>> time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC 
>>>> President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>
>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few 
>>>>> comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to 
>>>>> Martin for his review!
>>>>>
>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks 
>>>>>> good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested 
>>>>>>> edits. Some are substantive changes?but all are in the same 
>>>>>>> spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can 
>>>>>>> be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it 
>>>>>>> is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak 
>>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii 
>>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct.
>>>>>>>>     Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     We need to go through it asap and send it before their
>>>>>>>>     meeting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion
>>>>>>>>     mode (i set it that way not sure it went through)
>>>>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 02:09:03 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:09:03 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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Hi all,

while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with
regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options
here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR
dedicated mail address.  no problem here.

but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto
input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate
in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this
is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:

> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR address
> so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>
> Stephanie
> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>
> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to winterfeldt
> law -- how about just the first email address?
>
> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>
> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>
> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model
> proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to internet at winterfeldt.law
> .
>
> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply
> sending this to a Gmail account.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran
> and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm
> asked for "comments.'
>
> *I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to
> have it?*
>
> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of the
> citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations easy
> :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi
> shortly.
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>
> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being
> accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it
> into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
> sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine
> in cc?
>
> -- Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments
> highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>
> Back to the PC to continue review...
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>
> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to
> go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>
> Cheers,
> Mart?n
>
>
> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits.
> Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original
> text.
>
> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be
> corrected prior to submission.
>
> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing
> at the moment...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Farzaneh,
>
> thanks for this.
> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all
>>
>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has
>> written a response on ipc bc
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G
>> 84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>
>>
>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>
>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it
>> that way not sure it went through)
>> --
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 02:16:24 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 19:16:24 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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No, I do not think we should participate in their sham process. We should not legitimise it. The most powerful tool we have at present is our ability to shout "NO!" We should not work to their artificial deadlines, designed to suit their interests and to harm us. If we, and the contracted parties, team up and do not participate in this sham process, it will collapse. And I do think, with the GDPR coming into effect in eight weeks time, that the contracted parties are too busy at present to participate.

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 6 April 2018 1:09 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.  no problem here.
>
> but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>
>> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>
>>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>>
>>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>>
>>> Best, Kathy
>>>
>>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>
>>>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>>
>>>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to internet at winterfeldt.law.
>>>>
>>>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to have it?
>>>>>
>>>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations easy :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Fri Apr  6 02:17:51 2018
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:17:51 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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Hi Stephanie, to what email address would you send this?


On 4/5/2018 7:03 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR 
> address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>
> Stephanie
>
> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>
>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to 
>> winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>
>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>>
>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>
>>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model 
>>> proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, 
>>> with a copy tointernet at winterfeldt.law 
>>> <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd 
>>> simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and 
>>>> Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his 
>>>> law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>
>>>> /I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you 
>>>> happen to have it?/
>>>>
>>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check 
>>>> of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented 
>>>> citations easy :-).? No more edits, please.? I'll have this over to 
>>>> Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>
>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are 
>>>>> being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document 
>>>>> and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the 
>>>>> time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC 
>>>>> President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few 
>>>>>> comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to 
>>>>>> Martin for his review!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it 
>>>>>>> looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full 
>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested 
>>>>>>>> edits. Some are substantive changes?but all are in the same 
>>>>>>>> spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can 
>>>>>>>> be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it 
>>>>>>>> is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak 
>>>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii 
>>>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Hi all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct.
>>>>>>>>>     Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     We need to go through it asap and send it before their
>>>>>>>>>     meeting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion
>>>>>>>>>     mode (i set it that way not sure it went through)
>>>>>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>     NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>>>>     https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>>>     <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 02:21:10 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 16:21:10 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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Rafik

Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they provided.
We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public comment
address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment analysis and their
process. We have to make it clear that the only reason we are making the
comment is for ICANN and the rest of the community know what we think about
it.

Farzaneh

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with
> regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options
> here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR
> dedicated mail address.  no problem here.
>
> but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto
> input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate
> in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this
> is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca>:
>
>> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR
>> address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>>
>> Stephanie
>> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>
>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to winterfeldt
>> law -- how about just the first email address?
>>
>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>
>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>
>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model
>> proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to
>> internet at winterfeldt.law.
>>
>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply
>> sending this to a Gmail account.
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
>> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran
>> and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm
>> asked for "comments.'
>>
>> *I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to
>> have it?*
>>
>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of
>> the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations
>> easy :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi
>> shortly.
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>
>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being
>> accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it
>> into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
>> sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine
>> in cc?
>>
>> -- Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
>> <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few
>> comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for
>> his review!
>>
>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>
>> Best, Kathy
>>
>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>
>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to
>> go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mart?n
>>
>>
>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits.
>> Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original
>> text.
>>
>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be
>> corrected prior to submission.
>>
>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing
>> at the moment...
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>
>> thanks for this.
>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has
>>> written a response on ipc bc
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G
>>> 84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>
>>>
>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>
>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set
>>> it that way not sure it went through)
>>> --
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 02:25:16 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 19:25:16 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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Thanks for articulating this; you both raise very good points. Agreed - let's only send this in to ICANN.

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 6 April 2018 1:21 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rafik
>
> Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the community know what we think about it.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.  no problem here.
>>
>> but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>
>>> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>>>
>>> Stephanie
>>>
>>> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>>>
>>>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>>>
>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>
>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>>>
>>>>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to internet at winterfeldt.law.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to have it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations easy :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From kathy at kathykleiman.com  Fri Apr  6 02:42:08 2018
From: kathy at kathykleiman.com (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 19:42:08 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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There is one reason to BC the IPC at their gmail address below, and 
expanding on Rafik's idea below. That is because, legitimate or not, 
many of us are attending the IPC/BC's meeting tomorrow and frankly, I 
would like for them to see the NCSG Comment and know it is there. I 
double they'll be checking the GDPR email.

It would be useful if we want to reference in comments we may make 
during the meeting tomorrow...

Best, Kathy

p.s. does anyone have the GDPR comment email?


On 4/5/2018 7:21 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
> Rafik
>
> Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they 
> provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR 
> public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment 
> analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only 
> reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the 
> community know what we think about it.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes
>     lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are
>     mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC,
>     Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.? no
>     problem here.
>
>     but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de
>     facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we
>     will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
>     accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be
>     clear about when communicating with them,
>
>     Best,
>
>     Rafik
>
>     2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>
>         The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the
>         GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community
>         feedback on models.
>
>         Stephanie
>
>         On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>
>>         It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to
>>         winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>
>>         Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>
>>         Best, Kathy
>>
>>
>>         On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>         They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>
>>>         stakeholders can provide written comments on the
>>>         accreditation model proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com
>>>         <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, with a copy
>>>         tointernet at winterfeldt.law <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>>>
>>>
>>>         I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a
>>>         little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>
>>>         Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>>         ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>         On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>         <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to
>>>>         Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian
>>>>         Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>
>>>>         /I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would
>>>>         you happen to have it?/
>>>>
>>>>         All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for
>>>>         final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc
>>>>         does not make indented citations easy :-). No more edits,
>>>>         please.? I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>
>>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>         I understand from the notifications from Google that
>>>>>         changes are being accepted, that work is still underway
>>>>>         editing this document and getting it into a submittable
>>>>>         state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
>>>>>         sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with
>>>>>         Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>
>>>>>         -- Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>         On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>>>         <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>
>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated
>>>>>>         (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing,
>>>>>>         Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>         I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work,
>>>>>>>         it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So
>>>>>>>         far, my full support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>>>>         Mart?n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline
>>>>>>>>         <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I have reviewed the document now and put forward some
>>>>>>>>         suggested edits. Some are substantive changes?but all
>>>>>>>>         are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text
>>>>>>>>         alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of
>>>>>>>>         what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ayden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak
>>>>>>>>         <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>         Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>         I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Rafik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii
>>>>>>>>>         <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Hi all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is
>>>>>>>>>             correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>             <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             We need to go through it asap and send it before
>>>>>>>>>             their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Please comment quickly and make sure you are on
>>>>>>>>>             suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it
>>>>>>>>>             went through)
>>>>>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 02:46:28 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 19:46:28 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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I don't think we are able to get the comment submitted before that call though, can we?

Don't we need to now share the proposed text on the NCSG list for 24 hours?

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 6 April 2018 1:42 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:

> There is one reason to BC the IPC at their gmail address below, and expanding on Rafik's idea below. That is because, legitimate or not, many of us are attending the IPC/BC's meeting tomorrow and frankly, I would like for them to see the NCSG Comment and know it is there. I double they'll be checking the GDPR email.
>
> It would be useful if we want to reference in comments we may make during the meeting tomorrow...
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> p.s. does anyone have the GDPR comment email?
>
> On 4/5/2018 7:21 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the community know what we think about it.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.  no problem here.
>>>
>>> but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>>
>>>> The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community feedback on models.
>>>>
>>>> Stephanie
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stakeholders can provide written comments on the accreditation model proposal to 3amcomments at gmail.com, with a copy to internet at winterfeldt.law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't seem to find that email address right now -- would you happen to have it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc does not make indented citations easy :-).  No more edits, please.  I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand from the notifications from Google that changes are being accepted, that work is still underway editing this document and getting it into a submittable state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Ayden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>>>> On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman [<kathy at kathykleiman.com>](mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing, Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any. So far, my full support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Mart?n
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have reviewed the document now and put forward some suggested edits. Some are substantive changes but all are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to go through it asap and send it before their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please comment quickly and make sure you are on suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it went through) --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 02:58:24 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:58:24 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
Message-ID: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

we had the draft comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU
2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679 . the deadline passed
already and I asked for an extension and the request was kindly accepted
hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not able to do so.

I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.

Best,

Rafik
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Fri Apr  6 03:46:29 2018
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 20:46:29 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to IPC/BC model
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Agreed, excellent points Farzi.

Stephanie

On 2018-04-05 19:25, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> Thanks for articulating this; you both raise very good points. Agreed 
> - let's only send this in to ICANN.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 1:21 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they 
>> provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR 
>> public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment 
>> analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only 
>> reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the 
>> community know what we think about it.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes
>>     lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are
>>     mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC,
>>     Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.? no
>>     problem here.
>>
>>     but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or
>>     de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that
>>     we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
>>     accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be
>>     clear about when communicating with them,
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>     2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>
>>         The whole process is flawed, I think we should send it to the
>>         GDPR address so that it is put on the web under community
>>         feedback on models.
>>
>>         Stephanie
>>
>>         On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>
>>>         It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly
>>>         to winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address?
>>>
>>>         Also, perhaps we should publish our comment...
>>>
>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>         They have asked that comments be sent to:
>>>>
>>>>         stakeholders can provide written comments on the
>>>>         accreditation model proposal to3amcomments at gmail.com
>>>>         <mailto:3amcomments at gmail.com>, with a copy
>>>>         tointernet at winterfeldt.law <mailto:internet at winterfeldt.law>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a
>>>>         little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.
>>>>
>>>>         Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>         On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>>         <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to
>>>>>         Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which
>>>>>         Brian Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.'
>>>>>
>>>>>         /I can't seem to find that email address right now --
>>>>>         would you happen to have it?/
>>>>>
>>>>>         All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for
>>>>>         final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc
>>>>>         does not make indented citations easy :-).? No more edits,
>>>>>         please. I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>>>>>>         I understand from the notifications from Google that
>>>>>>         changes are being accepted, that work is still underway
>>>>>>         editing this document and getting it into a submittable
>>>>>>         state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
>>>>>>         sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with
>>>>>>         Goran and Cherine in cc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         -- Ayden
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>>>         On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>>>>>>         <kathy at kathykleiman.com> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>
>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated
>>>>>>>         (with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing,
>>>>>>>         Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Back to the PC to continue review...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>>>>>>>         I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden?s
>>>>>>>>         work, it looks good to go. I?ll add my comments if any.
>>>>>>>>         So far, my full support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Cheers,
>>>>>>>>         Mart?n
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden F?rdeline
>>>>>>>>>         <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I have reviewed the document now and put forward some
>>>>>>>>>         suggested edits. Some are substantive changes?but all
>>>>>>>>>         are in the same spirit of the original text.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         The formatting looks a bit odd; I hope the text
>>>>>>>>>         alignments can be corrected prior to submission.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I think the conclusion lacks punch; but can?t think of
>>>>>>>>>         what it is missing at the moment...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ayden
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         P.S. Thanks to those who drafted it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik Dammak
>>>>>>>>>         <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>         Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         thanks for this.
>>>>>>>>>>         I would like to ask PC members to review it asap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Rafik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii
>>>>>>>>>>         <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             Im on a plane so let me know if the link below is
>>>>>>>>>>             correct. Kathy has written a response on ipc bc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA
>>>>>>>>>>             <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             We need to go through it asap and send it before
>>>>>>>>>>             their meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             Please comment quickly and make sure you are on
>>>>>>>>>>             suggestion mode (i set it that way not sure it
>>>>>>>>>>             went through)
>>>>>>>>>>             -- 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>             NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>             NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr  6 15:37:08 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 08:37:08 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
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Unfortunately I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.

I had a look over the source document and have been left confused. I'm not sure what we are actually being asked to comment on (by ICANN).

I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue might be able to shed some light. Thanks!

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 6 April 2018 1:58 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all,
>
> we had the draft comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679 . the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the request was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not able to do so.
>
> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 15:41:37 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:41:37 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
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I?ve heard some scary things on the new community  gTLDs policy in PR, but still haven?t wrapped my head around it, I heard specifically that community consultation wouldn't be mandatory in the new round, I couldn?t find yet that part, but if that?s the case, we have to stand a big NO to that. Gonna try to look further, but anything related to community regulation is sensible and mandatory for us to look over.

Cheer,
Mart?n


> On 6 Apr 2018, at 09:37, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.
> 
> I had a look over the source document and have been left confused. I'm not sure what we are actually being asked to comment on (by ICANN).
> 
> I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue might be able to shed some light. Thanks!
> 
> Ayden  
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 1:58 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> hi all,
>> 
>> we had the draft comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679 <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679> . the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the request was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not able to do so.
>> 
>> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 16:42:59 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 22:42:59 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Accred-Model] RESENDING: BC & IPC documents for
 Friday call
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmP2OgKdohxoQTj2-P8RmTLMcZUW3fSNHKaJ_x4TJsiJQ@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

please find the attached documents for today IPC/BC call

Best,

Rafik

-------- Forwarded Message --------



Dear all,



With apologies to those who have already received them, staff has been
informed that some community members who signed up for the
BC/IPC-convened call on Friday 6 April did not receive the documents
that will be referenced by the BC and IPC members leading the call.
Given that we are trying out new virtual conference tools at this time,
please forgive any duplication of emails as we now resend the two
documents in question. As noted previously, these are documents that
have been prepared by the BC and IPC, and are not documents or proposals
from the ICANN Organization.



Thanks and cheers

Mary, Ozan & Chantelle
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Fri Apr  6 16:52:11 2018
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 09:52:11 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
In-Reply-To: <EouzQiCTBL0fS45TvcegMYg3jE5nxSazUNoMneD1Zi8NQUgedvmw2Agqn5pTNtRAelHR2w_7sqACSEEaAUhuOdx9G3fGgaG-KcnnWiZvDUg=@ferdeline.com>
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I agree.? Needs more work, at the moment if we have little to say we 
should not comment.

Stephanie

On 2018-04-06 08:37, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
> Unfortunately I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.
>
> I had a look over the source document and have been left confused. I'm 
> not sure what we are actually being asked to comment on (by ICANN).
>
> I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue might be able to shed 
> some light. Thanks!
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 1:58 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> we had the draft comment 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679 
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679>?. 
>> the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the 
>> request was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it 
>> seems I am not able to do so.
>>
>> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  6 16:56:23 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 13:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
In-Reply-To: <c5321ea4-6b87-b3f6-4200-389c34594c37@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <c5321ea4-6b87-b3f6-4200-389c34594c37@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <2033077287.2436956.1523022983818@mail.yahoo.com>

I agree with you. I don't think we have to comment on this if we are not clear on this regard or? we will need too much work to do.
Regards,

JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaCommunications Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter:?@JmanuRojas





? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El viernes, 6 de abril de 2018 8:52:26 a. m. GMT-5, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> escribi?:  
 
  
I agree.? Needs more work, at the moment if we have little to say we should not comment.
 
Stephanie
 
 On 2018-04-06 08:37, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
  
 Unfortunately I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.
  
  I had a look over the source document and have been left confused. I'm not sure what we are actually being asked to comment on (by ICANN).
  
  I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue might be able to shed some light. Thanks! 
    Ayden??
   
   
  ??????? Original Message ???????
   On 6 April 2018 1:58 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
   
  
  
  hi all,
  
  we had the draft comment?https://docs.google. com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU 2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/ edit?ts=5a8ac679?. the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the request was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not able to do so.
  
  I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.?
  
  Best,
  
   Rafik
  
  
     
       
 
  
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Fri Apr  6 17:21:40 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 14:21:40 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
In-Reply-To: <2033077287.2436956.1523022983818@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>
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Concurred +1

On 6 April 2018 at 13:56, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC <
ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> I agree with you. I don't think we have to comment on this if we are not
> clear on this regard or  we will need too much work to do.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Communications Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns
> Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>
> Cel. +57 3017435600
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El viernes, 6 de abril de 2018 8:52:26 a. m. GMT-5, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> escribi?:
>
>
> I agree.  Needs more work, at the moment if we have little to say we
> should not comment.
>
> Stephanie
> On 2018-04-06 08:37, Ayden F?rdeline wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I don't think this comment is ready for submission just yet.
>
> I had a look over the source document and have been left confused. I'm not
> sure what we are actually being asked to comment on (by ICANN).
>
> I hope someone with more knowledge of this issue might be able to shed
> some light. Thanks!
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 6 April 2018 1:58 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> hi all,
>
> we had the draft comment https://docs.google.
> com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU 2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/
> edit?ts=5a8ac679
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679> .
> the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the request
> was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not
> able to do so.
>
> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.ishttps://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>


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Coordinator
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MDI Road Kanifing South
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 18:05:39 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 00:05:39 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=3MPtLksxDY9e6fFMC8pBuum+d86QpA4J6tGEEnSrh+w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

the staff asked to get the comment submitted today as they won't be able to
extend more. unfortunately, I don't think we will be able to submit.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-06 8:58 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

>
> hi all,
>
> we had the draft comment https://docs.google.co
> m/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/edit?ts=5a8ac679 .
> the deadline passed already and I asked for an extension and the request
> was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several changes. it seems I am not
> able to do so.
>
> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
>
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Fri Apr  6 18:13:37 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 15:13:37 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Procedure for Community gTLD Change Requests
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=3MPtLksxDY9e6fFMC8pBuum+d86QpA4J6tGEEnSrh+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sThngnd7mXZ2K73g+Nyh5+MRdcw=RaDoFff44si8cwth4qw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Rafik,

Too short indeed, thanks for the notification

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 6 April 2018 at 15:05, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the staff asked to get the comment submitted today as they won't be able
> to extend more. unfortunately, I don't think we will be able to submit.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2018-04-06 8:58 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> we had the draft comment https://docs.google.co
>> m/document/d/1wy5bMfvEvLA-FU2Ir4zd1Hhgo78XbDjROrCmmmfQgE0/ed
>> it?ts=5a8ac679 . the deadline passed already and I asked for an
>> extension and the request was kindly accepted hoping that I can do several
>> changes. it seems I am not able to do so.
>>
>> I am still hoping that we can make it and so any help would be welcome.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>


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The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
MDI Road Kanifing South
P. O. Box 421 Banjul
The Gambia, West Africa
Tel: (220) 4370240
Fax:(220) 4390793
Cell:(220) 9912508
Skype: pons_utd







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<http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
<http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org
<http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sat Apr  7 22:19:58 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:19:58 -0700
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>

Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to incorporate members
views as much as possible. There were a couple of changes that I did not
agree with and provided my rationale or it was unclear so I had to reject
the change. You can see all those in the comment section of Google Doc.

If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG
response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation
with the NCSG members.

Best

Farzaneh
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr  7 22:24:16 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 15:24:16 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OY3s_Na3JbLJ2tKjNgIhALhChojZQ5jNTQlypHz0aB6APPt_IMA6hwDXXnSmNnScWWu9oVj8Symg83kMEu60nSGUc9-0GawQhxgRVixZ72k=@ferdeline.com>

Thank you for all your work here, Farzaneh. I strongly support its submission and think you have done an excellent job at responding to the feedback that members have input. Your responses are sound and evidence-informed.

Best wishes, Ayden

Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 21:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:

> Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to incorporate members views as much as possible. There were a couple of changes that I did not agree with and provided my rationale or it was unclear so I had to reject the change. You can see all those in the comment section of Google Doc.
>
> If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation with the NCSG members.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Sat Apr  7 23:41:47 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 20:41:47 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
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Message-ID: <CAJjnsDErY1mFbAORKj6-4eT7jE=zYR3RS7eVwGLWqubuqrk90Q@mail.gmail.com>

Great work all,

Although the document does not have the tone I would agree on initially, I
recognize the work done to bring it closer to consensus, and in that spirit
it has my approval. I do wish to ask to leave out the comment that we
bealive the nextgen and fellowship should be unified,and leave the idea to
address overlappnes if any.

I also think it wouldn't hurt recognising that for us, ncsg, the fellowship
has proven successful even if we think things can be improved. It looks
unfair, and a little cranky/defensive (of what?) to say that a zillion
leaders from the fellwoship is not enough to give us a hint of
satisfaction, even when not all is good and there are things to change.

Hope I was constructivewith this comment,

Martin

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 4:24 PM Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Thank you for all your work here, Farzaneh. I strongly support its
> submission and think you have done an excellent job at responding to the
> feedback that members have input. Your responses are sound and
> evidence-informed.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 21:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to
> incorporate members views as much as possible. There were a couple of
> changes that I did not agree with and provided my rationale or it was
> unclear so I had to reject the change. You can see all those in the comment
> section of Google Doc.
>
> If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG
> response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation
> with the NCSG members.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 03:01:19 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 09:01:19 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Comment - Reserve Fund
 Replenishment Strategy
In-Reply-To: <6I1_qOWKG7x-yDkDpsSG0t4yCldR6pI9cfPVa5zpr5SxoZb-M58C6LU5niiOFhMsTLRchA2ocx6BlUNTmhtqqVmaDvg7sdK_2VKMweMdIto=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThn70K4F+OsUG1ATJ9JDb-RycyCWOUZV07vkxJs6Ab3n5w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

we have a draft comment to review and endorse for submission soon.

Best,

Rafik
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
Date: 2018-04-08 8:43 GMT+09:00
Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Comment - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy
To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu


Dear all,

I have prepared a first draft of a potential NCSG comment on ICANN's
Reserve Fund replenishment strategy. The last day for submissions is on 25
April, so in order to meet this deadline, please try to review the comment
this week and feel free to suggest edits. I will ask the Policy Committee
to review your input, and the revised text, in two weeks time. Thank you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_
KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing

Best wishes,

Ayden F?rdeline
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 03:02:59 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 09:02:59 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThm7c7DjmM+Hg6_TZKSLrwa5nbX0BKjk2uRo7qbEP=3gXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Farzaneh,

Thanks for the work done, I support the submission of the response.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-08 4:19 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:

> Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to
> incorporate members views as much as possible. There were a couple of
> changes that I did not agree with and provided my rationale or it was
> unclear so I had to reject the change. You can see all those in the comment
> section of Google Doc.
>
> If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG
> response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation
> with the NCSG members.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  8 06:50:49 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (jumaropi at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 22:50:49 -0500
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Mon Apr  9 12:20:43 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 09:20:43 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Comment - Reserve Fund
 Replenishment Strategy
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThn70K4F+OsUG1ATJ9JDb-RycyCWOUZV07vkxJs6Ab3n5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6I1_qOWKG7x-yDkDpsSG0t4yCldR6pI9cfPVa5zpr5SxoZb-M58C6LU5niiOFhMsTLRchA2ocx6BlUNTmhtqqVmaDvg7sdK_2VKMweMdIto=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEux40sR2G9O6WYkUY6G9=Hkcz1cti7PtgmQC5F5R6MfDLGcXA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Colleagues,

Good day, am very much okay with the draft comments.

Thanks

Poncelet

On 8 April 2018 at 00:01, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> we have a draft comment to review and endorse for submission soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> Date: 2018-04-08 8:43 GMT+09:00
> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Comment - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have prepared a first draft of a potential NCSG comment on ICANN's
> Reserve Fund replenishment strategy. The last day for submissions is on 25
> April, so in order to meet this deadline, please try to review the comment
> this week and feel free to suggest edits. I will ask the Policy Committee
> to review your input, and the revised text, in two weeks time. Thank you.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvt
> moyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>


-- 
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Coordinator
The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
MDI Road Kanifing South
P. O. Box 421 Banjul
The Gambia, West Africa
Tel: (220) 4370240
Fax:(220) 4390793
Cell:(220) 9912508
Skype: pons_utd







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<http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
<http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org
<http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Mon Apr  9 14:54:24 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 11:54:24 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
In-Reply-To: <OY3s_Na3JbLJ2tKjNgIhALhChojZQ5jNTQlypHz0aB6APPt_IMA6hwDXXnSmNnScWWu9oVj8Symg83kMEu60nSGUc9-0GawQhxgRVixZ72k=@ferdeline.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
 <OY3s_Na3JbLJ2tKjNgIhALhChojZQ5jNTQlypHz0aB6APPt_IMA6hwDXXnSmNnScWWu9oVj8Symg83kMEu60nSGUc9-0GawQhxgRVixZ72k=@ferdeline.com>
Message-ID: <CAEux40t85V5nGrnzt+ySy4Au80HdAefSMDpqznBsLeOWkhpukA@mail.gmail.com>

Fully Supported

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 7 April 2018 at 19:24, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Thank you for all your work here, Farzaneh. I strongly support its
> submission and think you have done an excellent job at responding to the
> feedback that members have input. Your responses are sound and
> evidence-informed.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 21:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to
> incorporate members views as much as possible. There were a couple of
> changes that I did not agree with and provided my rationale or it was
> unclear so I had to reject the change. You can see all those in the comment
> section of Google Doc.
>
> If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG
> response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation
> with the NCSG members.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>


-- 
Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS
Coordinator
The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
MDI Road Kanifing South
P. O. Box 421 Banjul
The Gambia, West Africa
Tel: (220) 4370240
Fax:(220) 4390793
Cell:(220) 9912508
Skype: pons_utd







*www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm>http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/
<http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
<http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org
<http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org
<http://www.npoc.org>http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753
<http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753>*www.diplointernetgovernance.org
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 15:08:46 2018
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 14:08:46 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fellowship program response
In-Reply-To: <CAEux40t85V5nGrnzt+ySy4Au80HdAefSMDpqznBsLeOWkhpukA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvAsZTJ4kDkdDJBdtHT=V2LWj2S7Psumy1-QUYzNZ7CC2w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABDXvWov3P6ffggSQEibS+F4ZefXsYMTphYNiSi1MS9ii6G5XA@mail.gmail.com>

This comment is well done and I support its submission

------------------------
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<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
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<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
<https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow (
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2018-04-09 13:54 GMT+02:00 Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>:

> Fully Supported
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Poncelet
>
> On 7 April 2018 at 19:24, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for all your work here, Farzaneh. I strongly support its
>> submission and think you have done an excellent job at responding to the
>> feedback that members have input. Your responses are sound and
>> evidence-informed.
>>
>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 21:19, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Attached is the fellowship program response. I tried to
>> incorporate members views as much as possible. There were a couple of
>> changes that I did not agree with and provided my rationale or it was
>> unclear so I had to reject the change. You can see all those in the comment
>> section of Google Doc.
>>
>> If PC doesn't raise any objections I will  submit this on Monday as NCSG
>> response. If it does I will submit as the chair response in consultation
>> with the NCSG members.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS
> Coordinator
> The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
> MDI Road Kanifing South
> P. O. Box 421 Banjul
> The Gambia, West Africa
> Tel: (220) 4370240
> Fax:(220) 4390793
> Cell:(220) 9912508
> Skype: pons_utd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm>http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/
> <http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
> <http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org
> <http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org
> <http://www.npoc.org>http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753
> <http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753>*www.diplointernetgovernance.org
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Mon Apr  9 20:35:49 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:35:49 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve Fund
 Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <gPvNnJnP_-I00GqQ9GLpC24FMfPJammWIle8iwP5jjMS_PtThkdlbAmLg9C8I3s_jR5-5iJHqPSbYnwot9KZoxWQJXDRGhNFrTGSBFLJd8Q=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <_24aWdaOKDFxBS9G29sFV7hmzlYSJnOoFaGqlS68Hu53A_JVoyg0YIxc91jGiiF4vwVk8WVn1cM25o9vkhVI6MHp6GOtz-23EnKQXtNS7JU=@ferdeline.com>

Hi all,

Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list or with me directly. Thanks!

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the [same Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing) as before.
>
> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for comment submissions on this issue is [25 April](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en).
>
> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal) or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have a preference either way? Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 02:17:25 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:17:25 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <_24aWdaOKDFxBS9G29sFV7hmzlYSJnOoFaGqlS68Hu53A_JVoyg0YIxc91jGiiF4vwVk8WVn1cM25o9vkhVI6MHp6GOtz-23EnKQXtNS7JU=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThkQU681A5XOcMhMVN2tcMYy3AECYys+3aNBh3pJzM-Zgw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ayden,

thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.
I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are not
exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I
didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve
> fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list
> or with me directly. Thanks!
>
> Ayden
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised
> statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the same Google
> Doc
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing>
> as before.
>
> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and
> indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to
> submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to
> ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for
> comment submissions on this issue is 25 April
> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
> .
>
> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve
> Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal)
> or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have
> a preference either way? Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden F?rdeline
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Tue Apr 10 15:23:24 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:23:24 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThkQU681A5XOcMhMVN2tcMYy3AECYys+3aNBh3pJzM-Zgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <gPvNnJnP_-I00GqQ9GLpC24FMfPJammWIle8iwP5jjMS_PtThkdlbAmLg9C8I3s_jR5-5iJHqPSbYnwot9KZoxWQJXDRGhNFrTGSBFLJd8Q=@ferdeline.com>
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Hi Rafik,

That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why that would be so.

Best wishes,

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ayden,
>
> thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.
> I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list or with me directly. Thanks!
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the [same Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing) as before.
>>>
>>> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for comment submissions on this issue is [25 April](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en).
>>>
>>> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal) or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have a preference either way? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 15:25:17 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:25:17 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <peY1N1iATUCSJu6Qi5TlDTdjeaSo_4dnMuCBKcdUlu-YOyL1UPQ9-28QNOgxMBF62tCVMOuogvJIrznsDhuS3WEIGJY3IgjJw3A3KHmJJcs=@ferdeline.com>
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Thanks, Ayden for the explanation, happy to see that we are not supporting
touching the auctions funds at least.
as the comment is quite simple, I don't see any reason to not support it.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-10 21:23 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is
> unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think
> there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties
> would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why
> that would be so.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ayden,
>
> thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.
> I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are
> not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I
> didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve
>> fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list
>> or with me directly. Thanks!
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised
>> statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the same Google
>> Doc
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing>
>> as before.
>>
>> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and
>> indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to
>> submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to
>> ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for
>> comment submissions on this issue is 25 April
>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>> .
>>
>> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve
>> Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal)
>> or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have
>> a preference either way? Thanks.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Tue Apr 10 15:54:36 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:54:36 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=TdmLV56qfXRjiJrJvJwgCV14wWQx_FB1Ghq1tYT+C1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <gPvNnJnP_-I00GqQ9GLpC24FMfPJammWIle8iwP5jjMS_PtThkdlbAmLg9C8I3s_jR5-5iJHqPSbYnwot9KZoxWQJXDRGhNFrTGSBFLJd8Q=@ferdeline.com>
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Yes, this is a part of the compromise, we are the only Stakeholder Group that is not advocating such a position, so have asked the SCBO to remain silent here. Similarly, in the SCBO comment we are not expressing a position on whether any application fees from the expansion of new gTLDs should be returned.

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 10 April 2018 2:25 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Ayden for the explanation, happy to see that we are not supporting touching the auctions funds at least.
> as the comment is quite simple, I don't see any reason to not support it.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-10 21:23 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why that would be so.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>
>>> thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.
>>> I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list or with me directly. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the [same Google Doc](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing) as before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for comment submissions on this issue is [25 April](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en).
>>>>>
>>>>> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal) or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have a preference either way? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Tue Apr 10 19:21:20 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:21:20 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve Fund
 Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <sGYofqbAAkEJlNYgQZZRoYiOB0hucIsu7GwpSiHp5cCdz6fHn9FRJRX7HB2M7IcEEP4wkyfvt6ipylju3kQziejVipuJ5UmPbiUBkBej72c=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <0E6C8D3B-19B1-4A19-A424-22DCCDF5B4A9@benin2point0.org>

Dear Ayden,

I read the doc and have no objection.


@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
Technology Champion & Chapter Head
Africa 2.0 Foundation.
farell at benin2point0.org 
www.africa2point0.org
linkedin.com/in/farellf
twitter.com/@__f_f__






> On 10 Apr 2018, at 14:54, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, this is a part of the compromise, we are the only Stakeholder Group that is not advocating such a position, so have asked the SCBO to remain silent here. Similarly, in the SCBO comment we are not expressing a position on whether any application fees from the expansion of new gTLDs should be returned.
> 
> Ayden  
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 10 April 2018 2:25 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Ayden for the explanation, happy to see that we are not supporting touching the auctions funds at least.
>> as the comment is quite simple, I don't see any reason to not support it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 2018-04-10 21:23 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>> Hi Rafik,
>> 
>> That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why that would be so.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Ayden  
>> 
>> 
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ayden,
>>> 
>>> thanks for the work done on SCBO comment. 
>>> I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Rafik
>>> 
>>> 2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list or with me directly. Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Ayden 
>>> 
>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the same Google Doc <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing> as before.
>>>> 
>>>> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for comment submissions on this issue is 25 April <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>.
>>>> 
>>>> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal) or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have a preference either way? Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc <https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc>
>>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Tue Apr 10 19:35:30 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:35:30 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <sGYofqbAAkEJlNYgQZZRoYiOB0hucIsu7GwpSiHp5cCdz6fHn9FRJRX7HB2M7IcEEP4wkyfvt6ipylju3kQziejVipuJ5UmPbiUBkBej72c=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEux40vFCs7J2tU61DQfWNSCma1Bxo4oqx3dvsVTsHKwt3B1Zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ayden,

Based on this clarity, I have no objections also.

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 10 April 2018 at 12:54, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Yes, this is a part of the compromise, we are the only Stakeholder Group
> that is not advocating such a position, so have asked the SCBO to remain
> silent here. Similarly, in the SCBO comment we are not expressing a
> position on whether any application fees from the expansion of new gTLDs
> should be returned.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 10 April 2018 2:25 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Ayden for the explanation, happy to see that we are not supporting
> touching the auctions funds at least.
> as the comment is quite simple, I don't see any reason to not support it.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-10 21:23 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is
>> unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think
>> there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties
>> would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why
>> that would be so.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.
>> I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are
>> not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I
>> didn't join the SCBO confcall and didn't check yet the proceedings.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve
>>> fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list
>>> or with me directly. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>> On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised
>>> statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the same
>>> Google Doc
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UU-rQfCLjJ_mTNRN0EdA2b5zivJGUfbaHa6imRuKZIo/edit?usp=sharing>
>>> as before.
>>>
>>> Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and
>>> indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to
>>> submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to
>>> ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for
>>> comment submissions on this issue is 25 April
>>> <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve
>>> Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal)
>>> or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have
>>> a preference either way? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden F?rdeline
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 12 00:23:29 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 21:23:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: [Gnso-sc-budget] [new draft] Comment on Reserve
 Fund Replenishment
In-Reply-To: <CAEux40vFCs7J2tU61DQfWNSCma1Bxo4oqx3dvsVTsHKwt3B1Zg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <885380431.1907752.1523481809529@mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Ayden,I have no objections on this.?
Regards,
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
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Cel. +57 3017435600
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 

    El martes, 10 de abril de 2018 11:35:41 a. m. GMT-5, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm> escribi?:  
 
 Hi Ayden,

Based on this clarity, I have no objections also.

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 10 April 2018 at 12:54, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

Yes, this is a part of the compromise, we are the only Stakeholder Group that is not advocating such a position, so have asked the SCBO to remain silent here. Similarly, in the SCBO comment we are not expressing a position on whether any application fees from the expansion of new gTLDs should be returned.

Ayden??


??????? Original Message ???????
 On 10 April 2018 2:25 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
 

Thanks, Ayden for the explanation, happy to see that we are not supporting touching the auctions funds at least.
as the comment is quite simple, I don't see any reason to not support it.

Best,

Rafik
 
2018-04-10 21:23 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

Hi Rafik,

That is correct; we are remaining silent on alternatives, as it is unlikely that there is a common GNSO position on them. However we do think there is a common GNSO view that raising fees on the contracted parties would be the wrong approach. We all have different rationales as to why that would be so.

Best wishes,

Ayden??


??????? Original Message ???????
On 10 April 2018 1:17 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Ayden,

thanks for the work done on SCBO comment.?
I reviewed the previous version and fine with the latest one. so we are not exploring other options but only objecting to increasing fees? sorry I didn't join the SCBO confcall?and didn't check yet the proceedings.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-10 2:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

Hi all,

Happy to get comments here from the PC re: the SCBO comment on reserve fund replenishment. If you have any concerns, please raise them on our list or with me directly. Thanks!

Ayden?

??????? Original Message ???????
On 9 April 2018 5:14 PM, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:


Dear all,

Thank you for joining our call today. Please find attached a revised statement encompassing the requested edits. We are using the same Google Doc as before.

Could you please review this statement as a matter of priority, and indicate if you have any concerns regarding the contents? The hope is to submit this to the Council mailing list by Wednesday 11 April in order to ascertain Councillor's comfort level with the text. The final date for comment submissions on this issue is 25 April.

Also - there is one unresolved edit, whether we would like the Reserve Fund replenishment period to be "five or less years" (ICANN org proposal) or "three to five years" (BC proposal). Can you please indicate if you have a preference either way? Thanks.

Best wishes,

Ayden F?rdeline



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From icann at ferdeline.com  Fri Apr 13 23:58:24 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 16:58:24 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Expedited Policy Development Process Game Plan
Message-ID: <ZYUjO4TE1WUUwRLYVg3mAMOoxKIJY0L-Bw0WqS02oVOWnhPXnkUkB8e_siz5uK8drzekw1oQAw8tUarpYOUJcyaJYWo4PmnyIV7Erut7MSU=@ferdeline.com>

Dear all,

With apologies for sending this to the PC list, but all NCSG Councilors are subscribed here. This message is intended for our Councilors-

Should we schedule a call in coming days to develop an NCSG 'game plan' for the proposal shared by Donna in the past half hour? I think we need to discuss this and all get on the same page, and before the next Policy Committee meeting... seems to be moving fast.

Best wishes,

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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr 14 00:33:14 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:33:14 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] List of NCSG Comments on GDPR
Message-ID: <ddLYUL6c6pW6sy5hCCwBMQYjpKs5jB3Q_IROqZ-BjkJxCfTvb8rymBSSw5sEllYk2zu4AaOWs4EN4fN2lavEemxI2mJw_tO4eu8J6-xFQsc=@ferdeline.com>

Hi all,

I have compiled a table of all of the comments that the NCSG (and our subject matter expert Stephanie) have sent to ICANN on the various GDPR models.

If I have missed anything (and I think there might have been some relevant Internet Governance Project blog posts?), please add them. When complete, perhaps Maryam could kindly upload it as a new page to the ICANN wiki? Thank you!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ft5Yezl1hwkChHjm06xuL3FXKsqRwBv_Ng1ILA8QcPI/edit?usp=sharing

Best wishes,

Ayden
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr 14 00:37:54 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:37:54 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New accreditation model mailing list
Message-ID: <90rVwVwEDjfnUo0JQiwMj612VkrY4h5JK6fe4gFBIieu0xGVQHo5nEV7hnKepRF9nVasKiQpTmrsO-GdKHdLHZcy4-dAMlVhsnIEGfTpRfI=@ferdeline.com>

Please send an email to "admin-accred-model at icann.org" if you would like to be added to the new Accreditation Model mailing list. I have just subscribed, the membership is mainly BC/IPC for now. I will just be an observer.

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 00:38:31 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 06:38:31 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] List of NCSG Comments on GDPR
In-Reply-To: <ddLYUL6c6pW6sy5hCCwBMQYjpKs5jB3Q_IROqZ-BjkJxCfTvb8rymBSSw5sEllYk2zu4AaOWs4EN4fN2lavEemxI2mJw_tO4eu8J6-xFQsc=@ferdeline.com>
References: <ddLYUL6c6pW6sy5hCCwBMQYjpKs5jB3Q_IROqZ-BjkJxCfTvb8rymBSSw5sEllYk2zu4AaOWs4EN4fN2lavEemxI2mJw_tO4eu8J6-xFQsc=@ferdeline.com>
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmxz+rnnyuMxy5Bx3w-H3C+ozsTyU_Q6Yh+PwpaE7UHsg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ayden,

in fact, we have already a wiki page listing the letters sent about GDPR
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Positions+on+Whois+Compliance+with+GDPR
, it needs some work tough.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-14 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> I have compiled a table of all of the comments that the NCSG (and our
> subject matter expert Stephanie) have sent to ICANN on the various GDPR
> models.
>
> If I have missed anything (and I think there might have been some relevant
> Internet Governance Project blog posts?), please add them. When complete,
> perhaps Maryam could kindly upload it as a new page to the ICANN wiki?
> Thank you!
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ft5Yezl1hwkChHjm06xuL3FXKsqRw
> Bv_Ng1ILA8QcPI/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
> _______________________________________________
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr 14 00:43:37 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:43:37 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] List of NCSG Comments on GDPR
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmxz+rnnyuMxy5Bx3w-H3C+ozsTyU_Q6Yh+PwpaE7UHsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ddLYUL6c6pW6sy5hCCwBMQYjpKs5jB3Q_IROqZ-BjkJxCfTvb8rymBSSw5sEllYk2zu4AaOWs4EN4fN2lavEemxI2mJw_tO4eu8J6-xFQsc=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <1WMeu_DNXZoLwc6hzGL0Srr7OS0__Nt7oxDpYoAm3TftP_6mLQxCPRndTqqcha0jAVsXCN2mq5me2VZSktkOVSl7u_VCLcgLN5ZzUtACczo=@ferdeline.com>

Hmm, interesting, perhaps that page could be edited to include the full contents of this Google Doc, as it is more complete? :-)

- Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 13 April 2018 11:38 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ayden,
>
> in fact, we have already a wiki page listing the letters sent about GDPR https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Positions+on+Whois+Compliance+with+GDPR , it needs some work tough.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-14 6:33 GMT+09:00 Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have compiled a table of all of the comments that the NCSG (and our subject matter expert Stephanie) have sent to ICANN on the various GDPR models.
>>
>> If I have missed anything (and I think there might have been some relevant Internet Governance Project blog posts?), please add them. When complete, perhaps Maryam could kindly upload it as a new page to the ICANN wiki? Thank you!
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ft5Yezl1hwkChHjm06xuL3FXKsqRwBv_Ng1ILA8QcPI/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 04:44:56 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:44:56 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some
may need some rework.


   - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis Project*
   <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASm
   xMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
   <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing>
,
   the dealdine is the 18th April
   - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
   <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>

   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
   , the deadline is the 17th April
   - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
   <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>

   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
   deadline is the 25th April

I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.

Best,

Rafik
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr 14 20:55:09 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:55:09 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OcPOeoFLJLE6AfXwan9gnBa3sWWmKxJjdD3F0wAye4ZnsMGHgJNWRyL2FZ7EFXzf8Af2Uuds2C5c5m49ahi9vc1Zyvsy1Ohcxfk22PQXTQ0=@ferdeline.com>

Thanks for the reminder, Rafik-

I will abstain from the comment on Board Member Integrity Screening, as the majority of my suggested edits to that the comment were rejected, and from the comment on Reserve Fund replenishment, as I am the penholder. I will need to do some background reading on name collision before I can evaluate our comment there, and will do that now.

Best wishes,

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 14 April 2018 3:44 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some may need some rework.
>
> - [Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis Project ](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing , the dealdine is the 18th April
> - [Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit , the deadline is the 17th April
> - [ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit deadline is the 25th April
>
> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sat Apr 14 21:38:46 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 14:38:46 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] NCAP Comment
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThniUW2h+6zfc1s+WoNpg74ZJUefW+JY2T3sk4sX+5BFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMokdMwovr4GeGxScYSk34wxNL3F4QAOHV8eL-vh0gkbreaXGA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH5sThniUW2h+6zfc1s+WoNpg74ZJUefW+JY2T3sk4sX+5BFxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <xoPiXqV-kFPGToKHz0XsnbINTIwQiqVedjbswBMpNDYDzGjEybDF7psOjK6KVc5SPUtTjUjpmrBMUN9FSbzfp7TSchJhR9ggE3YW6ePiGjU=@ferdeline.com>

Thanks, Renata, for taking the pen here.

I wonder if we can keep our comment nice and short, and just summarise it in one paragraph? I would like to propose we submit the following as our comment:

The Noncommercial Stakeholders Group thanks the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) for preparing the proposed Name Collision Analysis Project project plan. We have reviewed this plan, and wish to express our support to the SSAC in undertaking these activities. It is our position that name collisions are to be avoided, and we believe this project would go far in mitigating the potential harm to the stability and security of the Domain Name System posed by such strings. Thank you again for your efforts in addressing this important matter.

Best wishes,

Ayden F?rdeline

??????? Original Message ???????
On 14 April 2018 3:46 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Thanks Renata for the draft.
> @All please review the draft and check the report to see if you want to suggest any edits or change in the comment.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-14 5:21 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> This is not finished and I'm afraid being the deadline on the 18th Apr. won't be
>> It is quite a complex project and should be done by someone closer to SSAC
>> But at Rafik's advice, I'm sharing it below
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Apr 16 10:19:14 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:19:14 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DB93E2ED-43B3-4BCC-8FA7-2A0D03B1C81A@benin2point0.org>

Dear Rafik,

I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

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Technology Champion & Chapter Head
Africa 2.0 Foundation.
farell at benin2point0.org 
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twitter.com/@__f_f__







> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some may need some rework.
> 
> Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis Project? <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> , the dealdine is the 18th April
> Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit> , the deadline is the 17th April
> ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit> deadline is the 25th April
> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> _______________________________________________
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From farell at benin2point0.org  Mon Apr 16 19:49:15 2018
From: farell at benin2point0.org (Farell FOLLY)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:49:15 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
In-Reply-To: <DB93E2ED-43B3-4BCC-8FA7-2A0D03B1C81A@benin2point0.org>
References: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
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I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are pointing out. 

It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to point out a use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already covered in the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the points we?re raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider adopting it in state.

@__f_f__

Best Regards
____________________________________

Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
Technology Champion & Chapter Head
Africa 2.0 Foundation.
farell at benin2point0.org 
www.africa2point0.org
linkedin.com/in/farellf
twitter.com/@__f_f__







> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Rafik,
> 
> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
> 
> @__f_f__
> 
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
> 
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org> 
> www.africa2point0.org <http://www.africa2point0.org/>
> linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>
> twitter.com/@__f_f__
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM <mailto:rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some may need some rework.
>> 
>> Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis Project? <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> , the dealdine is the 18th April
>> Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit> , the deadline is the 17th April
>> ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit> deadline is the 25th April
>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is>
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
> 
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 11:24:33 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:24:33 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
In-Reply-To: <B4B8C7D8-B93E-46AB-B613-A1E0CAF8F615@benin2point0.org>
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Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account the
suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
 those who didn't review yet, please do asap.

Rafik
2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:

> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
> pointing out.
>
> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about Intellectual
> Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to point out a
> use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already covered in
> the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the points we?re
> raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made
> some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider
> adopting it in state.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> farell at benin2point0.org
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Rafik,
>
> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> farell at benin2point0.org
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some
> may need some rework.
>
>
>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis Project*
>
>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26
>    QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_
>    dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_
>    KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>    deadline is the 25th April
>
> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 12:40:11 2018
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:40:11 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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Hi,
Thanks to our penholders on these comments.

I support the submission of the Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening
Process as well as the one on the Reserve Fund Replenishment.
I have no opinion with regards to the NCAP one and will leave it to the
group to decide the best course of action.

Regards,
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2018-04-17 10:24 GMT+02:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account the
> suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>
> Rafik
> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>
>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
>> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>> pointing out.
>>
>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about Intellectual
>> Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to point out a
>> use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already covered in
>> the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the points we?re
>> raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made
>> some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider
>> adopting it in state.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Rafik,
>>
>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some
>> may need some rework.
>>
>>
>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>    Project*
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>
>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
>> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>>
>
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From stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca  Tue Apr 17 13:58:04 2018
From: stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:58:04 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmsR-9b-pftG48yGdg1i15BkHHsCaMUbMf4pGRNFaX2OA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=abPTHhs5a=qKr9dY76AwrLZ-yatvs0JK6N4DLRednqA@mail.gmail.com>
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I commented on two.? I cannot seem to get back into the integrity 
screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to 
the NCUC, should name it.? Here is the name

NCDNHCNon-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency

I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other

cheers steph

On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account 
> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
> ?those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>
> Rafik
> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org 
> <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>>:
>
>     I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned
>     with the idea that it can be brief since there is nothing
>     substantial we are pointing out.
>
>     It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about
>     Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I
>     suggested to point out a use case to explain and we can see
>     whether the issue is already covered in the proposed project plan
>     or not. I can see that most of the points we?re raising in our
>     draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made some
>     inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider
>     adopting it in state.
>
>     @__f_f__
>
>     Best Regards
>     ____________________________________
>
>     Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>     Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>     Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>     farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>
>     www.africa2point0.org <http://www.africa2point0.org>
>     linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>
>     twitter.com/@__f_f__ <http://twitter.com/@__f_f__>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>     On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org
>>     <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Rafik,
>>
>>     I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>
>>     @__f_f__
>>
>>     Best Regards
>>     ____________________________________
>>
>>     Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>     Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>     Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>     farell at benin2point0.org <mailto:farell at benin2point0.org>
>>     www.africa2point0.org <http://www.africa2point0.org/>
>>     linkedin.com/in/farellf <http://linkedin.com/in/farellf>
>>     twitter.com/@__f_f__ <http://twitter.com/@__f_f__>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>     On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM
>>>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi all,
>>>
>>>     we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC
>>>     review. some may need some rework.
>>>
>>>       * _Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>         Project_
>>>         <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing>?,
>>>         the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>       * Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>         <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>         , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>       * ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>         <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>         <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>         deadline is the 25th April
>>>
>>>     I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the
>>>     comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>
>>>     Rafik
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From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:40:07 +0900
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Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready and
if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit it.
I attached the latest version.
continuing to work on NCAP comment

Rafik


2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:

> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>
> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>
> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>
> cheers steph
>
> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account the
> suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>
> Rafik
> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>
>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
>> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>> pointing out.
>>
>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about Intellectual
>> Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to point out a
>> use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already covered in
>> the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the points we?re
>> raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made
>> some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider
>> adopting it in state.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Rafik,
>>
>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> farell at benin2point0.org
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some
>> may need some rework.
>>
>>
>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>    Project*
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>
>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
>> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
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From raquino at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 18:16:43 2018
From: raquino at gmail.com (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 12:16:43 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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[observer here]

Hi

Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I
said on NCSG list
The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would not
submit as it was
I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible
find more feasible ones to collaborate

Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for so
it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it

I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened version
but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to decide
what to carry on to the final comment or not.

Best,

Renata




On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready and
> if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit it.
> I attached the latest version.
> continuing to work on NCAP comment
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca>:
>
>> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
>> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
>> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>>
>> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>>
>> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>>
>> cheers steph
>>
>> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account
>> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>>
>> Rafik
>> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>>
>>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
>>> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>>> pointing out.
>>>
>>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about Intellectual
>>> Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to point out a
>>> use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already covered in
>>> the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the points we?re
>>> raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the end, I made
>>> some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or consider
>>> adopting it in state.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>
>>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review. some
>>> may need some rework.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>    Project*
>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>>
>>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
>>> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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From dgdorothydg at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 23:25:34 2018
From: dgdorothydg at gmail.com (dorothy g)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 23:25:34 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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Rafiq,  I believe we have now included language which is standard to any
due diligence process and described a process already made explicit in the
background documentation relating to the uniform screening process.
Repeating it makes it look like we did not read the background documents
and/or we are not familiar with how these processes work. In my view this
is unfortunate.  I deliberately did not revert within the time period you
gave because I am an observer on this group and I appreciate your workload
issues.  Needless to say please do not associate me in anyway with that
comment. I now understand better how the dynamic of these comments work and
why so few people volunteer.
best regards

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> [observer here]
>
> Hi
>
> Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I
> said on NCSG list
> The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would
> not submit as it was
> I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible
> find more feasible ones to collaborate
>
> Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for
> so it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it
>
> I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened
> version but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to
> decide what to carry on to the final comment or not.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready
>> and if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit
>> it. I attached the latest version.
>> continuing to work on NCAP comment
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>
>>> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
>>> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
>>> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>>>
>>> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>>>
>>> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>>>
>>> cheers steph
>>>
>>> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account
>>> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>>>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>>>
>>>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
>>>> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>>>> pointing out.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about
>>>> Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to
>>>> point out a use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already
>>>> covered in the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the
>>>> points we?re raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the
>>>> end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or
>>>> consider adopting it in state.
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>
>>>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review.
>>>> some may need some rework.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>>    Project*
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>>>
>>>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
>>>> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 04:28:10 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:28:10 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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Hi Dorothy,

Thanks for the message and comment. Thanks again for the draft. your
comments are always welcomed and respect, nobody should feel unheard or
ignored, and if it is the case, it should be remedied.
As I see concerns, I am holding off sending the comment for now (we got an
extension to this Friday). I don't agree with the last conclusion but that
is not the matter here anyway.

With regard to the comment and to put context for everyone, there was a
discussion in google doc about changes as some were rejected. I understand
the argument that we should have a short comment. In the end, the issue is
not about substance itself as there is no disagreement in the content.  I
interpreted this as a question of styles and "tastes" regarding how a
comment should be shaped and since there is not really a single right
answer. From my personal point of view, it was not a big deal.

however, my concern is we got things too personally and maybe with pride.
When we have a draft, there is an expectation that can be changed and
modified when reviewed by the group.  We work by consensus and usually,
penholders try to resolve comments and accommodate inputs from others as
much as possible so we can share the ownership of the document. My question
for some comments or actions, are they really something you want to fight
hard for or not? if the response is no, we can live with the proposed
change and move on. I suggested that we keep comments and suggestions open
for a while so others can weigh in.

I take the responsibility and blame that I failed to find a common ground
here between the 2 sides of concern expressed in the google doc comment and
failed to act in time to finalize the comment. I am putting the versions of
comments so people can have a better idea about the difference and people
select which version (version 1 or version 2) we should send, we have 24
hours to do so.

Best,

Rafi*k*

2018-04-19 5:25 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com>:

> Rafiq,  I believe we have now included language which is standard to any
> due diligence process and described a process already made explicit in the
> background documentation relating to the uniform screening process.
> Repeating it makes it look like we did not read the background documents
> and/or we are not familiar with how these processes work. In my view this
> is unfortunate.  I deliberately did not revert within the time period you
> gave because I am an observer on this group and I appreciate your workload
> issues.  Needless to say please do not associate me in anyway with that
> comment. I now understand better how the dynamic of these comments work and
> why so few people volunteer.
> best regards
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> [observer here]
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I
>> said on NCSG list
>> The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would
>> not submit as it was
>> I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible
>> find more feasible ones to collaborate
>>
>> Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for
>> so it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it
>>
>> I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened
>> version but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to
>> decide what to carry on to the final comment or not.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready
>>> and if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit
>>> it. I attached the latest version.
>>> continuing to work on NCAP comment
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>>
>>>> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
>>>> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
>>>> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>>>>
>>>> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>>>>
>>>> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>>>>
>>>> cheers steph
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account
>>>> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>>>>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with
>>>>> the idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>>>>> pointing out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about
>>>>> Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to
>>>>> point out a use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already
>>>>> covered in the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the
>>>>> points we?re raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the
>>>>> end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or
>>>>> consider adopting it in state.
>>>>>
>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review.
>>>>> some may need some rework.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>>>    Project*
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>>>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>>>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>>>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>>>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the
>>>>> comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 04:31:10 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:31:10 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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Hi Renata,

Thanks for the response and for drafting. nobody can dismiss the challenge
to draft and effort needed for that. as you submitted a draft, it gave us
an opportunity to act and cover that public comment.
I think we can shorten our comment as we are basically supporting the plan
and we don't see a specific issue. with regard to SSAC itself and its
working that may be reflected in the plan, I guess those are related to
SSAC review when a call for input will be open to the community.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-19 0:16 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:

> [observer here]
>
> Hi
>
> Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I
> said on NCSG list
> The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would
> not submit as it was
> I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible
> find more feasible ones to collaborate
>
> Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for
> so it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it
>
> I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened
> version but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to
> decide what to carry on to the final comment or not.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready
>> and if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit
>> it. I attached the latest version.
>> continuing to work on NCAP comment
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>
>>> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
>>> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
>>> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>>>
>>> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>>>
>>> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>>>
>>> cheers steph
>>>
>>> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account
>>> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>>>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>>>
>>>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with the
>>>> idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>>>> pointing out.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about
>>>> Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to
>>>> point out a use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already
>>>> covered in the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the
>>>> points we?re raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the
>>>> end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or
>>>> consider adopting it in state.
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>
>>>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review.
>>>> some may need some rework.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>>    Project*
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>>>
>>>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the comments
>>>> with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing listNCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From dgdorothydg at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 15:30:02 2018
From: dgdorothydg at gmail.com (dorothy g)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:30:02 +0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent
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Noted Rafik.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 4:31 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Renata,
>
> Thanks for the response and for drafting. nobody can dismiss the challenge
> to draft and effort needed for that. as you submitted a draft, it gave us
> an opportunity to act and cover that public comment.
> I think we can shorten our comment as we are basically supporting the plan
> and we don't see a specific issue. with regard to SSAC itself and its
> working that may be reflected in the plan, I guess those are related to
> SSAC review when a call for input will be open to the community.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-19 0:16 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>
>> [observer here]
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I
>> said on NCSG list
>> The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would
>> not submit as it was
>> I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible
>> find more feasible ones to collaborate
>>
>> Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for
>> so it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it
>>
>> I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened
>> version but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to
>> decide what to carry on to the final comment or not.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready
>>> and if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit
>>> it. I attached the latest version.
>>> continuing to work on NCAP comment
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>>>
>>>> I commented on two.  I cannot seem to get back into the integrity
>>>> screening one....I think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the
>>>> NCUC, should name it.  Here is the name
>>>>
>>>> NCDNHC       Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency
>>>>
>>>> I added it to the reserve fund comment but not the other
>>>>
>>>> cheers steph
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-04-17 04:24, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all, I will try to resolve the comments and taking into account
>>>> the suggestion to shorten the NCAP comment
>>>>  those who didn't review yet, please do asap.
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>> 2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> I have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less aligned with
>>>>> the idea that it can be brief since there is nothing substantial we are
>>>>> pointing out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that the penholder intends to raise an issue about
>>>>> Intellectual Property, but I am not getting the right point. I suggested to
>>>>> point out a use case to explain and we can see whether the issue is already
>>>>> covered in the proposed project plan or not. I can see that most of the
>>>>> points we?re raising in our draft are already taken into account. At the
>>>>> end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we were to be longer or
>>>>> consider adopting it in state.
>>>>>
>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Apr 2018, at 09:19, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try and review some by today or no later than tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>>> farell at benin2point0.org
>>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>> twitter.com/@__f_f__
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> we have several draft comments in pipeline and they need PC review.
>>>>> some may need some rework.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Draft Project Plan for the Proposed Name Collision Analysis
>>>>>    Project*
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q
>>>>>    UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing> ,
>>>>>    the dealdine is the 18th April
>>>>>    - Uniform Board Member Integrity Screening Process
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/board-integrity-screening-2018-03-02-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va
>>>>>    1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit>
>>>>>    , the deadline is the 17th April
>>>>>    - ICANN Reserve Fund: Proposed Replenishment Strategy
>>>>>    <https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-replenishment-2018-03-06-en>
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9
>>>>>    _KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit
>>>>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit>
>>>>>    deadline is the 25th April
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect that all PC members to review and help finalizing the
>>>>> comments with due diligeance. thanks to those who did already.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 04:43:50 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:43:50 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made by
 Friday
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=1pTnCp0cnt_BpykZL_rtKcuEqu+cK56Kg9vLHy20qbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the
extension is only until this week Friday.


   - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
   version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
   - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed
   plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried
   to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about
   the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project
   mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open
   groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as
   there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue.



   - the new version is here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
      - the original version here:
      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#

please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment,
and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.

Best,

Rafik
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 08:32:10 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 01:32:10 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=1pTnCp0cnt_BpykZL_rtKcuEqu+cK56Kg9vLHy20qbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if
they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting
objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria
and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with
whatever others suggest.

Farzaneh

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the
> extension is only until this week Friday.
>
>
>    - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
>    version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>    - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed
>    plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried
>    to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about
>    the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project
>    mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open
>    groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as
>    there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue.
>
>
>
>    - the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>       1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#>
>       - the original version here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>       1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#>
>
> please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment,
> and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
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> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From arsenebaguma at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 10:54:16 2018
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ars=C3=A8ne_Tungali?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:54:16 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
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References: <CAH5sTh=1pTnCp0cnt_BpykZL_rtKcuEqu+cK56Kg9vLHy20qbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <FE901F3E-B6BB-426A-8351-ECD1AE8DD51D@gmail.com>

I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point

-----------------
Ars?ne Tungali,
about.me/ArseneTungali
+243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo

Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with whatever others suggest.
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the extension is only until this week Friday.
>> 
>> For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>> for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue. 
>> 
>> the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
>> the original version here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#
>> please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment, and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>> 
> 
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From pileleji at ymca.gm  Fri Apr 20 13:02:08 2018
From: pileleji at ymca.gm (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:02:08 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
In-Reply-To: <FE901F3E-B6BB-426A-8351-ECD1AE8DD51D@gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=1pTnCp0cnt_BpykZL_rtKcuEqu+cK56Kg9vLHy20qbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1qJvCtrg=V8Skt-KLtkkfM4-KP_J0K7hrvTVC3Y5dZ0sSVtg@mail.gmail.com>
 <FE901F3E-B6BB-426A-8351-ECD1AE8DD51D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEux40vD9Q6_6L+Wc3nK1z5Dz4SWx6Uq+g9qKBiintNtcJSz0w@mail.gmail.com>

+1

On 20 April 2018 at 07:54, Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:

> I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is
> right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point
>
> -----------------
> Ars?ne Tungali,
> about.me/ArseneTungali
> +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>
> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>
> On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if
> they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting
> objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria
> and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with
> whatever others suggest.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the
>> extension is only until this week Friday.
>>
>>
>>    - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
>>    version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>>    - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the
>>    proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the
>>    studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While we may have
>>    concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a
>>    technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual
>>    model of open groups and representation (i.e representative from each
>>    SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required technical expertise and experience with
>>    the issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>    - the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/
>>       document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#>
>>       - the original version here: https://docs.google.com/
>>       document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#
>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#>
>>
>> please let me know which version which submit for board screening
>> comment, and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 17:24:54 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 23:24:54 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
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Thanks for the responses, waiting for more to weigh in

Rafik

2018-04-20 19:02 GMT+09:00 Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>:

> +1
>
> On 20 April 2018 at 07:54, Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is
>> right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point
>>
>> -----------------
>> Ars?ne Tungali,
>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>> +243 993810967
>> GPG: 523644A0
>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if
>> they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting
>> objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria
>> and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with
>> whatever others suggest.
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the
>>> extension is only until this week Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>>    - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
>>>    version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>>>    - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the
>>>    proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the
>>>    studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While we may have
>>>    concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a
>>>    technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual
>>>    model of open groups and representation (i.e representative from each
>>>    SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required technical expertise and experience with
>>>    the issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    - the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/
>>>       document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
>>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#>
>>>       - the original version here: https://docs.google.com/
>>>       document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#
>>>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#>
>>>
>>> please let me know which version which submit for board screening
>>> comment, and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
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>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>
>
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> The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
> MDI Road Kanifing South
> P. O. Box 421 Banjul
> The Gambia, West Africa
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> Fax:(220) 4390793
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>
>
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From jumaropi at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 20 18:16:47 2018
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com (Juan Manuel Rojas)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:16:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
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Hi all,
I also support version 1 for Uniform Board because I think Farzi's point is an important point and should be raised. And I also support shorter version in NCAP.?
Best regards,
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente?-?AGEIA DENSI?ColombiaCommunications Committee Chair.?Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
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    El viernes, 20 de abril de 2018 9:25:25 a. m. GMT-5, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escribi?:  
 
 Thanks for the responses, waiting for more to weigh in
Rafik

2018-04-20 19:02 GMT+09:00 Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>:

+1

On 20 April 2018 at 07:54, Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:

I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point

-----------------Ars?ne Tungali,about.me/ArseneTungali+243 993810967GPG: 523644A0Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:


Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria and we can commet?onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with whatever others suggest.
Farzaneh 
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the extension is only until this week Friday.
   
   - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
   - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue.?

   
   
   - the new version is here:?https://docs.google.com/ document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989 ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit #
   - the original version here:?https://docs.google.com/ document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFc SmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit #
please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment, and if you are fine with the new version for? NCAP to be submitted.
Best,
Rafik
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 20:46:45 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 14:46:45 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
 by Friday
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I concur with Farzi?s view on Nr. 1, let?s move it forward. NCAP looks more than fine to me. Thanks to everyone that worked on it!

Cheers,
Mart?n

> On 20 Apr 2018, at 12:16, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I also support version 1 for Uniform Board because I think Farzi's point is an important point and should be raised. And I also support shorter version in NCAP. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Communications Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
> 
> Cel. +57 3017435600
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                                                
> 
> 
> El viernes, 20 de abril de 2018 9:25:25 a. m. GMT-5, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escribi?:
> 
> 
> Thanks for the responses, waiting for more to weigh in
> 
> Rafik
> 
> 2018-04-20 19:02 GMT+09:00 Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm <mailto:pileleji at ymca.gm>>:
> +1
> 
> On 20 April 2018 at 07:54, Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point
> 
> -----------------
> Ars?ne Tungali,
> about.me/ArseneTungali <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>
> +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
> 
> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
> 
> On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with whatever others suggest.
>> 
>> Farzaneh
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the extension is only until this week Friday.
>> 
>> For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>> for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue. 
>> 
>> the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/ document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989 ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit # <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#>
>> the original version here: https://docs.google.com/ document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFc SmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit # <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#>
>> please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment, and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Fri Apr 20 23:42:44 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:42:44 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
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thanks all, it seems we have consensus around version 1 for uniform
screening and for short version of the NCAP comment. for those who didn't
chime in yet, please do so in next hours.
if there is no strong objection by 23:59UTC, I will submit the comments.

Best,

Rafik

2018-04-21 2:46 GMT+09:00 Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com
>:

> I concur with Farzi?s view on Nr. 1, let?s move it forward. NCAP looks
> more than fine to me. Thanks to everyone that worked on it!
>
> Cheers,
> Mart?n
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 12:16, Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC <
> ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I also support version 1 for Uniform Board because I think Farzi's point
> is an important point and should be raised. And I also support shorter
> version in NCAP.
>
> Best regards,
>
> JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
> Presidente - AGEIA DENSI Colombia
> Communications Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns
> Constituency (NPOC) - ICANN
> Cluster Orinoco TIC member
> Master IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
>
> Cel. +57 3017435600
> Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El viernes, 20 de abril de 2018 9:25:25 a. m. GMT-5, Rafik Dammak <
> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escribi?:
>
>
> Thanks for the responses, waiting for more to weigh in
>
> Rafik
>
> 2018-04-20 19:02 GMT+09:00 Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>:
>
> +1
>
> On 20 April 2018 at 07:54, Ars?ne Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I support version 1 for Board Screening because i also think Farzi is
> right and Version 2 for NC because it is short and straight to the point
>
> -----------------
> Ars?ne Tungali,
> about.me/ArseneTungali
> +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>
> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>
> On Apr 20, 2018, at 7:32 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ill go for comment no.1 for the Board screening. The reason is that, if
> they have an international due diligence consultant why are we setting
> objectives for ICANN? The due diligence consultant can set those criteria
> and we can commet onit. I don't know about Name Collision. will go with
> whatever others suggest.
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:43 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as the
> extension is only until this week Friday.
>
>
>    - For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
>    version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>    - for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the proposed
>    plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of the studies (tried
>    to capture the comments original draft). While we may have concerns about
>    the structures to be used, I believe as this is really a technical project
>    mandated to SSAC I don't think that must follow the usual model of open
>    groups and representation (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as
>    there is required technical expertise and experience with the issue.
>
>
>
>    - the new version is here: https://docs.google.com/
>       document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989 ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit #
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#>
>       - the original version here: https://docs.google.com/
>       document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFc SmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit #
>       <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#>
>
> please let me know which version which submit for board screening comment,
> and if you are fine with the new version for  NCAP to be submitted.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
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>
>
>
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> Coordinator
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> MDI Road Kanifing South
> P. O. Box 421 Banjul
> The Gambia, West Africa
> Tel: (220) 4370240
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> Cell:(220) 9912508
> Skype: pons_utd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm/>http://signaraglobalsolutions. com/
> <http://signaraglobalsolutions.com/>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
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From t.tropina at mpicc.de  Fri Apr 20 23:48:15 2018
From: t.tropina at mpicc.de (Dr. Tatiana Tropina)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 22:48:15 +0200
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Public comments review - Urgent - decision to be made
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Hi Rafik and all,

Hope I am not too late (just came back from a business trip to Budapest
and catching up with everything). I support the first version for board
screening and the short version of NCAP. Thank you!

Cheers,

Tanya


On 20/04/18 03:43, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> we need to make a quick decision regarding the 2 public comments as
> the extension is only until this week Friday.
>
>   * For uniform board member screening, please weigh if you support
>     version 1 or 2 to be submitted (attached)
>   * for NCAP comment, I made a new short version supporting the
>     proposed plan while expressing one concern regarding the cost of
>     the studies (tried to capture the comments original draft). While
>     we may have concerns about the structures to be used, I believe as
>     this is really a technical project mandated to SSAC I don't think
>     that must follow the usual model of open groups and representation
>     (i.e representative from each SO/AC/SG/C) as there is required
>     technical expertise and experience with the issue.?
>
>
>       o the new version is
>         here:?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WVaunyKcFLRoiOL989ZnrawRV0k4zG8L61hKBlxyZIg/edit#
>       o the original version
>         here:?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit#
>
> please let me know which version which submit for board screening
> comment, and if you are fine with the new version for? NCAP to be
> submitted.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 05:46:58 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 11:46:58 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft Agenda for NCSG Monthly Policy Call
Message-ID: <CAH5sThmFNTYqVLKEn3GvHz8G3PELu2ROCRCyp_FceKs1+WdiRw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am sharing here the placeholder agenda for our next policy call. you can
suggest some items for discussion.
The council agenda is quite dense and some topics would need time to
discuss. Being ready and reviewing the material is quite critical.

I. Roll call/Introduction
II. GNSO Council Call Preparation

   - Council agenda:
   https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/agenda-council-26apr18-en.pdf

III. Policy Discussion

   - Public comments updates:
   - Open Public Comments https://www.icann.org/public-comments#open-public
      - list of volunteers https://community.icann.org/display/
      gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2018
      <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2018>

   - Policy Topics:
      - Working Groups, Review Teams, CCWG updates

IV. Misc

   -   Whois & GDPR compliance process

Best Regards,

Rafik
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Sat Apr 21 05:59:54 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 11:59:54 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some
for submission soon:


   - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy:
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing
   , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago
   in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I
   do believe it is ready.
   - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change
   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing
   . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
   previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
   deadline is the *5th May*.

please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
for sending it in coming days.

Best,

Rafik
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 03:23:25 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:23:25 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to WP29 and comment on ICANN statement on their
 guidance
Message-ID: <CAN1qJvDoMjhst8SXduLwcYqw+8Lvu3Kh17R91MzyKzAtXp54dw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Here is the response to WP29.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1impmm4eYUUZ46VfpT8y2l9rqmwK_A0dj4jYnN5t_Z2E/edit

Need to send tomorrow before they wake up for WP29-ICANN meeting on Monday
with ICANN.


Best


Farzaneh
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sun Apr 22 14:13:21 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 07:13:21 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to WP29 and comment on ICANN statement on
 their guidance
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvDoMjhst8SXduLwcYqw+8Lvu3Kh17R91MzyKzAtXp54dw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN1qJvDoMjhst8SXduLwcYqw+8Lvu3Kh17R91MzyKzAtXp54dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <LGgGZW8GYzlx-kMjRoY88571nF1DxOxeU-i__--XJeAigDEpIYeoribuRUwIfvai1Pgqsg8hQr-xmbQw81mGhXm--D53gDzhmtTTVo83iVU=@ferdeline.com>

I support its submission. Thanks!

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 22 April 2018 2:23 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Here is the response to WP29.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1impmm4eYUUZ46VfpT8y2l9rqmwK_A0dj4jYnN5t_Z2E/edit
>
> Need to send tomorrow before they wake up for WP29-ICANN meeting on Monday with ICANN.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Sun Apr 22 15:13:21 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 08:13:21 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have more people drafting comments lately.

Best wishes, Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi all,
>
> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some for submission soon:
>
> - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing  , the deadline is for 25th April. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I do believe it is ready.
> - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the deadline is the 5th May.
>
> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus for sending it in coming days.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 19:40:36 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:40:36 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Response to WP29 and comment on ICANN statement on
 their guidance
In-Reply-To: <LGgGZW8GYzlx-kMjRoY88571nF1DxOxeU-i__--XJeAigDEpIYeoribuRUwIfvai1Pgqsg8hQr-xmbQw81mGhXm--D53gDzhmtTTVo83iVU=@ferdeline.com>
References: <CAN1qJvDoMjhst8SXduLwcYqw+8Lvu3Kh17R91MzyKzAtXp54dw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <C666B57F-1013-4EF1-BB8B-46FB0340B1D6@gmail.com>

Idem, go with it!

Cheers,
Mart?n

> On 22 Apr 2018, at 08:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
> 
> I support its submission. Thanks!
> 
> Ayden  
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 22 April 2018 2:23 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Here is the response to WP29. 
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1impmm4eYUUZ46VfpT8y2l9rqmwK_A0dj4jYnN5t_Z2E/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1impmm4eYUUZ46VfpT8y2l9rqmwK_A0dj4jYnN5t_Z2E/edit>
>> 
>> Need to send tomorrow before they wake up for WP29-ICANN meeting on Monday with ICANN. 
>> 
>> 
>> Best 
>> 
>> 
>> Farzaneh
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
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From mpsilvavalent at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 19:43:09 2018
From: mpsilvavalent at gmail.com (Martin Pablo Silva Valent)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:43:09 -0300
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
In-Reply-To: <Lpdv5f9bw9v2OMdOGPiICnQDCnDOUuKHBfZIoSkuf86TZwmlXyF_jpPBKfHwfVXuxD5sPYkGGycDU3spuYKhR0VGatonenypCC-E7i_4Pfw=@ferdeline.com>
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Message-ID: <DC1882E0-D5D2-4603-AFDA-C8C9B3440A78@gmail.com>

I concur with Ayden, both his writing in the reserve funds and I concur with Elsa?s work.

Cheers,
Mart?n

> On 22 Apr 2018, at 09:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have more people drafting comments lately.
> 
> Best wishes, Ayden  
> 
> 
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> hi all,
>> 
>> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
>> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some for submission soon:
>> 
>> Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing>  , the deadline is for 25th April. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I do believe it is ready.
>> Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing> . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the deadline is the 5th May.
>> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus for sending it in coming days.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc

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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 07:11:39 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:11:39 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
In-Reply-To: <DC1882E0-D5D2-4603-AFDA-C8C9B3440A78@gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sThmBU0Uqzc7m+oh4FjEsF9ZL1LuUcNz7o7HA6i7OPArpqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Today is the deadline for submitting the comment on reserve fund. If there
is no strong objection in next hours, I will submit the attached version.

Best,

Rafik

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 1:43 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:

> I concur with Ayden, both his writing in the reserve funds and I concur
> with Elsa?s work.
>
> Cheers,
> Mart?n
>
> On 22 Apr 2018, at 09:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund
> replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the
> Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor
> edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have
> more people drafting comments lately.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
>
> ??????? Original Message ???????
> On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some
> for submission soon:
>
>
>    - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/
>    document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/
>    edit?usp=sharing
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing>
>    , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago
>    in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I
>    do believe it is ready.
>    - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>    1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing
>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing>
>    . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
>    previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
>    deadline is the *5th May*.
>
> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
> for sending it in coming days.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 07:58:35 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 00:58:35 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
In-Reply-To: <CAH5sThmBU0Uqzc7m+oh4FjEsF9ZL1LuUcNz7o7HA6i7OPArpqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAN1qJvBzXYL1bHDxUrBExA8Zw2MNa5LgyMJJnZKjS+nPc-FzQA@mail.gmail.com>

I have no objection. Thanks Rafik

Farzaneh

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Today is the deadline for submitting the comment on reserve fund. If there
> is no strong objection in next hours, I will submit the attached version.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 1:43 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I concur with Ayden, both his writing in the reserve funds and I concur
>> with Elsa?s work.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mart?n
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2018, at 09:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund
>> replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the
>> Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor
>> edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have
>> more people drafting comments lately.
>>
>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>
>>
>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>> On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
>> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review
>> some for submission soon:
>>
>>
>>    - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/docume
>>    nt/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing>
>>    , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks
>>    ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden.
>>    I do believe it is ready.
>>    - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/docume
>>    nt/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing>
>>    . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
>>    previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
>>    deadline is the *5th May*.
>>
>> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
>> for sending it in coming days.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 15:48:05 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:48:05 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
In-Reply-To: <CAN1qJvBzXYL1bHDxUrBExA8Zw2MNa5LgyMJJnZKjS+nPc-FzQA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH5sTh=tDE=y8Tmu11nF-PYskQhV=hs2mYGC5eGYj=h1743FOQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH5sTh=FhFF+v9zRA3bdjuTnBKAbYLmin-7g=0z8irocaZOm4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am going to submit the comment.
Thanks,

Best,

Rafik


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 1:59 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have no objection. Thanks Rafik
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Today is the deadline for submitting the comment on reserve fund. If
>> there is no strong objection in next hours, I will submit the attached
>> version.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 1:43 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
>> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I concur with Ayden, both his writing in the reserve funds and I concur
>>> with Elsa?s work.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mart?n
>>>
>>> On 22 Apr 2018, at 09:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund
>>> replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the
>>> Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor
>>> edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have
>>> more people drafting comments lately.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>> On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
>>> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review
>>> some for submission soon:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy:
>>>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing
>>>    , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks
>>>    ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden.
>>>    I do believe it is ready.
>>>    - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change
>>>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing
>>>    . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
>>>    previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
>>>    deadline is the *5th May*.
>>>
>>> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
>>> for sending it in coming days.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>>
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From icann at ferdeline.com  Wed Apr 25 16:04:03 2018
From: icann at ferdeline.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ayden_F=C3=A9rdeline?=)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:04:03 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
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Thanks, Rafik.

Ayden

??????? Original Message ???????
On 25 April 2018 2:48 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am going to submit the comment.
> Thanks,
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 1:59 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have no objection. Thanks Rafik
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Today is the deadline for submitting the comment on reserve fund. If there is no strong objection in next hours, I will submit the attached version.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 1:43 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I concur with Ayden, both his writing in the reserve funds and I concur with Elsa?s work.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mart?n
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Apr 2018, at 09:13, Ayden F?rdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Rafik; I will abstain from commenting on the Reserve Fund replenishment strategy statement, as I am the penholder, but as for the Section 11 comment which Elsa has drafted, I have made some extremely minor edits and think it's fine to submit. It is really wonderful that we have more people drafting comments lately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>> ??????? Original Message ???????
>>>>> On 21 April 2018 4:59 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
>>>>>> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some for submission soon:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing  , the deadline is for 25th April. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I do believe it is ready.
>>>>>> - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the deadline is the 5th May.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus for sending it in coming days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 18:04:03 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 00:04:03 +0900
Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] GNSO Draft schedule ICANN62
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hi all,

please find attached the draft block schedule for GNSO. it is still under
construction.

Best,

Rafik

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Dear all,



ICANN62 prep is the AOB item on the GNSO Council meeting?s agenda for the
call later.



Please see attached the GNSO draft schedule for ICANN62 which has been
updated with several Cross-Community topics and their assigned slots for
your review. Discussions will be held shortly to allocate the remaining
slots to the CC topics community SO/AC leaders agree on.



Please remember that this is a working document where PDP leads as well as
SGs and Cs collaborate, and that until the Cross-Community sessions are set
in stone, the schedule is still likely to change.



Kind regards,

Nathalie
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From rafik.dammak at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 21:28:57 2018
From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com (Rafik Dammak)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:28:57 +0000
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
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Hi all,

this is a reminder regarding the section 11 of bylaws comment, the deadline
for submission is the 5th May. Ayden and Martin already endorsed it.

Best,

Rafik

Le sam. 21 avr. 2018 ? 11:59, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
?crit :

> hi all,
>
> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review some
> for submission soon:
>
>
>    - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy:
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing
>    , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks ago
>    in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden. I
>    do believe it is ready.
>    - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing
>    . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
>    previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
>    deadline is the *5th May*.
>
> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
> for sending it in coming days.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
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From farzaneh.badii at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 21:37:19 2018
From: farzaneh.badii at gmail.com (farzaneh badii)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:37:19 -0400
Subject: [NCSG-PC] New public comments draft for review
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Thanks Rafik, I endorse.

Farzaneh

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> this is a reminder regarding the section 11 of bylaws comment, the
> deadline for submission is the 5th May. Ayden and Martin already endorsed
> it.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> Le sam. 21 avr. 2018 ? 11:59, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> thanks again for reviewing the last batch of drafts. they were submitted.
>> As usual, the list of public comments never ends and we got to review
>> some for submission soon:
>>
>>
>>    - Reserve Fund Replenishment Strategy: https://docs.google.com/
>>    document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/
>>    edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit?usp=sharing>
>>    , the deadline is for *25th April*. The comment was shared 2 weeks
>>    ago in NCSG list and members put some comments that were resolved by Ayden.
>>    I do believe it is ready.
>>    - Section 11 of ICANN Bylaws change https://docs.google.com/
>>    document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=
>>    sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHqOc4xTxttIny1pysvdhOsH_atnm3_8mx0L_aDIC8U/edit?usp=sharing>
>>    . It was shared recently in NCSG list. It is a short comment supporting the
>>    previous position from NCSG as it is the last step in the process. the
>>    deadline is the *5th May*.
>>
>> please review the drafts asap. for the first, we need to reach consensus
>> for sending it in coming days.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>
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