[NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair election

Tue Oct 3 02:11:54 EEST 2017

Hi Ayden,

I did express our "unhappiness" about this late request for nomination in
my first message to Heather. In fact, she already sensed that during the
call from Farzaneh question as she tried to explain what happened. As we
discussed, we wanted to make that point clear (myself urged for that) and I
think the message was received. We then moved to discuss vice-chair
position. there was also another thread in NCPH list (my understanding, all
councilors were added ) and CSG quickly tried to explain what happened (and
trying to move quickly  ;)).
I probably failed to report that in due time. hope that clarifies.

Best,

Rafik

2017-10-03 3:06 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:

> I have to say Rafik, I'm very surprised by this thread, because I did not
> think this was the path that we had agreed to take forward. I do not oppose
> Heather chairing Council, particularly following our call last week where
> we had a number of questions clarified, but I thought we were going to
> impress upon the CSG our frustration with them choosing a Chair behind
> closed doors without involving us. It does not sound to me like this
> happened?
>
> —Ayden
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] GNSO Chair election
> Local Time: 2 October 2017 5:20 PM
> UTC Time: 2 October 2017 16:20
> From: pileleji at ymca.gm
> To: Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>, ncsg-pc <
> ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>
> Hello Tapani,
> Was to respond sorry for the delay, I support  the approach as rightly
> stated by Matthew. We need  importantly to have a process for this.
>
> Thank you
> Poncelet
>
> On 2 October 2017 at 16:06, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> wrote:
>
>> So as Rafik sleeps, I'll take that as instructions and absent
>> objections will take it upon myself to send the nomination to the
>> secretariat together with CSG (apparently represented in this case by
>> Wolf-Ulrich, even though CSG doesn't have a chair as such).
>>
>> So far out of 11 PC members I count Rafik, Stefania, Martin, myself
>> and Matthew in favour, still waiting for Marilia, Stephanie, Tatiana,
>> Ayden, Poncelet and Juan.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:27:45PM +0900, Rafik Dammak (
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Thanks for responses, waiting for other members opinions. I may be
>> offline
>> > soon (midnight soon here). If there is no strong objections by
>> 19:00UTC, we
>> > should inform CSG about our support and then send a joint nomination.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Rafik
>> >
>> >
>> > On Oct 2, 2017 10:34 PM, "Tapani Tarvainen" <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Agreed.
>> >
>> > Tapani
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:41:53PM +0900, Rafik Dammak (
>> > rafik.dammak at gmail.com) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > While I expressed interest to put my name for chair election, I am
>> fine
>> > > with running for vice-chair instead considering the current
>> > > context.  taking the opportunity to run as vice-chair seems more
>> > reasonable
>> > > for the time being. We had a call with Heather last week and also
>> ongoing
>> > > discussion between councilors about the nomination. I understand
>> there may
>> > > some concerns but we can play our role to keep GNSO leadership on
>> track.
>> > it
>> > > also seems that both groups didn't start the process in due time, nor
>> we
>> > > had a process to start with.
>> > >
>> > > I advise that we go with supporting Heather nomination from NCPH and
>> > > continue the discussion with CSG about vice-chair position and
>> election
>> > > processes (not waiting for intersessional to do the later).
>> > >
>> > > We have few hours left, so we should share our decision with CSG asap
>> and
>> > > make the nomination before midnight at UTC time.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > Rafik
>> > >
>> > > 2017-09-26 8:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > for the record, as I was nominated by Ayden a few weeks ago in PC
>> list
>> > I
>> > > > am also interested to be nominated by NCPH to run for GNSO chair
>> > election.
>> > > > I am looking forward NCSG to support my candidature and suggest it
>> to
>> > CSG
>> > > > during the house nomination process.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best,
>> > > >
>> > > > Rafik
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2017-09-25 18:56 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <
>> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
>> > >:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Dear PC,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Deadline for GNSO Chair candidate nominations is October 1, that
>> > > >> is the end of this week.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Background:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The rules say that each house will be allowed to nominate
>> > > >> one candidate. Meaning we'd have to agree with CSG.
>> > > >> And we'd have to find a candidate the other house will
>> > > >> also accept.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Time is short. We really should open talks with CSG now.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> And if we want one of ours to run for Chair, we'd also
>> > > >> need to talk with CPH at the same time.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Chair needs 60% supermajority in the council to be elected.
>> > > >> My math says that works out to 16 councillors, when CPH
>> > > >> and NCPH both have 13 (6 per constituency plus two NCAs).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Eligible for nomination are all new councillors, including
>> > > >> all NCAs (even non-voting NCA).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> For more details cf. 2.2 in GNSO Operating Procedures.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> And as you may recall, if CSG gets the Chair we'll get Vice Chair,
>> as
>> > > >> per the procedure we agreed on.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I haven't heard anything from CSG after Jo'burg, but there I got
>> > > >> the impression they'd be likely to offer Heather Forrest.
>> > > >> Note that if she's elected she could only serve one year,
>> > > >> as she's term-limited as councillor.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Tapani Tarvainen
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCSG-PC mailing list
>> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
>> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS
> Coordinator
> The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
> MDI Road Kanifing South
> P. O. Box 421 Banjul
> The Gambia, West Africa
> Tel: (220) 4370240
> Fax:(220) 4390793
> Cell:(220) 9912508
> Skype: pons_utd
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *www.ymca.gm <http://www.ymca.gm>http://jokkolabs.net/en/
> <http://jokkolabs.net/en/>www.waigf.org
> <http://www.waigf.org>www,insistglobal.com <http://www.itag.gm>www.npoc.org
> <http://www.npoc.org>http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753
> <http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753>*www.diplointernetgovernance.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NCSG-PC mailing list
> NCSG-PC at lists.ncsg.is
> https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/attachments/20171003/8897631d/attachment.htm>