[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Community Travel Support questionnaire - consultation

[Dr. Tatiana Tropina]

Hi Martin,

ah, clear then! Thanks for the heads up and for the explanation! Lets
see what will go to the council list but right mow I think we have to do
is to send the NCSG response as well as it differs from the Council and
outlines our travel concerns, such as visa costs, IGF slots, etc etc
etc, which are not in the council document.

Cheers,

Tanya


On 18/11/17 17:32, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
> I am talking about the document sent to the council. Since it was
> drafted by us, I will fully support it, but I am giving my personal
> opinion on what I think here. You can disregard it if it comes too
> late or is not productive at this stage, again, I will support what we
> decide to go for. 
>
> Cheers,
> Martín
>  
>
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Tropina, Tatiana <t.tropina at mpicc.de
>> <mailto:t.tropina at mpicc.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Martin, 
>> May we clarify which document you disagree with? 
>> Rafik is trying to endorse NCSG response here, not a Council
>> response. The NCSG response was drafted by our membership and all
>> concerns raised here were addressed. The doc was on the NCSG mailing
>> list. It answers from the SG perspective. 
>> As for the council document, the leading drafter is Michele and sure
>> thing Donna's and others concerns will be addressed in consensus. 
>> Cheers
>> Tanya 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Martin Pablo Silva Valent [mpsilvavalent at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>]
>> Sent: 18 November 2017 16:47
>> To: Tropina, Tatiana
>> Cc: Juan Manuel Rojas via NCSG-PC
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Community Travel Support questionnaire -
>> consultation
>>
>> As I stated in Abu Dhabi, I share this concern since I started at
>> ICANN and have been working on it since then, but I think the
>> questions in the council should be first towards getting information
>> so we can later come to a conclusion, it feels there is a prejudgment
>> on wether the program is not fulfilling it’s mission or cost too
>> much, or that we might just want something different as a community,
>> but to get there we first need to understand it fully, if not, we are
>> talking in the dark (which might be part of our conclusion, that we
>> should have more info available to not have to ask basics).
>>
>> I also understand Donna, that this might not need Council level to be
>> discussed, specially at a stage of research and not actual community
>> statement (that would require al SO to get behind a specific writing
>> and maybe want to include other programs as well).
>>
>> So I do not support the current document unless it either reflects an
>> informational concern rather than a prejudgment, and take sin account
>> a lighter approach that would not make other SO oppose it.
>>
>> Of course, this is my opinion internally here, on the council I will
>> support any decision the group makes as it is my duty and dynamic of
>> work..
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martín
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de
>> <mailto:t.tropina at mpicc.de><mailto:t.tropina at mpicc.de>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Likewise, this gets my endorsement. Thanks to all who weighed in and
>> helped to shape the comment.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tanya
>>
>> On 18/11/17 12:06, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>> I support its submission. Thank you.
>>
>> —Ayden
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Community Travel Support questionnaire -
>> consultation
>> Local Time: 18 November 2017 11:04 AM
>> UTC Time: 18 November 2017 11:04
>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com><mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>> <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>><mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have worked on this comment in the last days and shared with NCSG
>> members. The deadline was supposedly yesterday and so I would like to
>> get it endorsed in this weekend so we can submit it and ensure that
>> our input is considered by staff. most of the changes were accepted
>> or reworded.
>> please share your support or not on the list asap.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com><mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> Date: 2017-11-16 23:52 GMT+09:00
>> Subject: Community Travel Support questionnaire - consultation
>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu><mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> a few weeks ago, all SO/AC received a questionnaire from ICANN staff
>> asking for input regarding the community travel support in order to
>> update the travel guidelines. you can find more about the background
>> on the attached paper.
>>
>> In the last days, members of policy committee worked on responding to
>> the questionnaire to ensure that NCSG participates in the
>> consultation. Deadline for submission is the 17th November.
>>
>> Please find the draft comment for review
>> here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNZrZ1OK9SL416h-lYuearVqDl_8grDsXLEKhwqQBHA/edit?ts=5a0d7129
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>>
>>
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