[NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Review&Endorsment

Mon May 22 03:03:04 EEST 2017

Hi all,

please review asap the current draft and check if you are fine with the
wording. we should submit by Monday the comment.

Best,

Rafik

2017-05-20 15:56 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Thanks for the edits, waiting for other to go through and see if other
> changes are needed or if they are fine with the current version. We can
> send the comment this weekend after that.
>
> Best.
>
> Rafik
>
> On May 20, 2017 7:11 AM, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Rafik, Ayden, Stephanie, all,
>
> I just went into the document and tried to soften the language a bit:
> unacceptable became inadvisable, I deleted a few of the harsher and perhaps
> more perhaps unintentionally  incendiary lines. I'm at work so it's a bit
> difficult at the moment for me to do much more - I'd certainly welcome
> further edits along those lines,  if folks felt they were needed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:56 PM
> *To*: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
> *Cc*: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
> Review&Endorsment
>
> Hi Ayden,
>
> Thanks,
> I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot really
> respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she can
> propose some edits there?
> I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get
> some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>
>> Hi Rafik,
>>
>> Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment, but
>> as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly more
>> tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an anonymous
>> commenter left some useful comments in the Google Doc.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephanie,
>>
>> Thanks for the comment,
>> I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and
>> myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from
>> Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the
>> draft.
>> if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the comment
>> on behalf of NCSG (document attached).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoront
>> o.ca>:
>>>
>>> I think it is worded too strongly, but I will support it.
>>>
>>> Stephanie
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-19 16:52, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> so  I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we
>>> have the new draft here https://docs.google.com/d
>>> ocument/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit
>>> can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the
>>> comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria <avri at apc.org>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i also do not support postponement.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > My initial reaction is, I do not support the postponement of mandatory
>>>> > Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why this should happen, I
>>>> > would be interested in hearing it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Many thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Ayden
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> >> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /
>>>> >> Review&Endorsment
>>>> >> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM
>>>> >> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM
>>>> >> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>> >> To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad about ccNSO review
>>>> >> deferral  https://docs.google.com/docume
>>>> nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx
>>>> FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I understand that Ed objected to the content and explained his point
>>>> >> of view on NCSG mailing list
>>>> >> https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee8
>>>> 0ad7.1705 .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I need to hear from others about their positions and also any
>>>> >> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite views in the NCSG
>>>> >> comment i.e what can be the consensual position for NCSG here.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> the deadline for submission is also the 19th May and so we have less
>>>> >> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to move forward.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rafik
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> >> From: *Rafik Dammak* <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>> >> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00
>>>> >> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Consultation
>>>> >> To: "NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>> >> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>"
>>>> >> <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>> >> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>, ncsg-pc
>>>> >> <ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for NCSG
>>>> >> comment https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF
>>>> qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> >> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx
>>>> FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing>.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Please review it, add your comments, express your support or not in
>>>> >> order to assess what we have the common NCSG position on this topics
>>>> >> and submitting in time. the deadline for submission is this Friday
>>>> >> 19th May.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rafik
>>>> >
>>>> >
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