[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC

Tue Mar 28 21:56:05 EEST 2017

Thanks for your message Renata.  It is hard to keep up with the state of 
play, but I think we are now back to having a confidential discussion 
tomorrow without the candidates, Matt is organizing.  We are late in 
submitting names, as the first meeting is scheduled for April 30, but 
doubtless we shall get there eventually.

Best,

Stephanie

On 2017-03-28 14:44, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
> Dear Stephanie and all
>
> Thanks for your message.
> I think the PC NCSG participants have a lot to discuss with this slate
> of highly qualified candidates. I wish slates like these always happen
> for selections.
> I'm not on the PC NCSG list and I've also seen that some part of the
> discussions members suggested to do it without the candidates, which I
> can also understand.
> If I am needed to provide any further information than that sent on my
> candidacy statement, I'll hope that someone emails me.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Stephanie Perrin
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> This comment is unfair, in my view, Tapani.  It was not a long, secret
>> discussion.  I asked the question on the public list at 19:58 amsterdam
>> time, as you can see below.  Stefi responded at 15:03 EDT that contestants
>> should be removed.  I put together the list and forgot you (sorry, but these
>> things happen, it was not deliberate) at16:04 EDT, asking if I had forgotten
>> anyone.  I added you the next morning after Matt pointed out I forgot you at
>> 10:23 EDT.  I have forwarded three messages you missed. At any point you
>> could have fired off an email inquiring about the discussion, and whether
>> you had been omitted, had you noticed that the discussion on the PC list had
>> died following what appeared to be agreement to remove candidates.  I don't
>> really think the decision making on that was not transparent.
>> As I indicated earlier, it is only fair to add the other two contestants to
>> the discussion, now that it is on the PC list.  I do not believe they are
>> members. Accordingly, I am adding Renata and Kris.....Welcome to the
>> discussion on the Policy Committee list regarding choosing our
>> representatives for the GNSO Standing Selection Committee.
>>
>> Cheers Stephanie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-03-27 15:52, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As it turns out the councillors involved in the decision had had long
>> email discussion about it without including me, I will stay out of
>> this decision and leave it to them to decide it as they see fit.
>>
>> I will only say for the record that while I accept that non-public
>> discussions are sometimes necessary, I'd want them in any case to be
>> publicly known about. Perhaps we need a setup like the NomCom to be
>> able to debate and make this kind of decisions without publicity, but
>> if so I'd want that and related procedures to be agreed on in advance.
>>
>> In any case I'm happy Matthew has taken the responsibility of
>> this and I trust he gets it done in time.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>> On Mar 27 10:19, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca) wrote:
>>
>> I just meant that the discussion about the candidates should take place
>> without the candidates there.  Further, we have two candidates who are not
>> on the policy list, so we would in fairness have to add them if we were
>> going to have an open discussion on the PC list.
>>
>> I think we should leave this an NCSG discussion and make all arguments based
>> on what makes the best slate of candidates.
>>
>> SP
>>
>>
>> On 2017-03-27 02:08, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stefania and Stephanie,
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by removing the contestants from the
>> conversation. Do you want to exclude them from even listening in?
>>
>> If we have a call around this, should it not be recorded and
>> transcribed?
>>
>> That would not ... be exactly transparent.
>>
>> Otherwise, I agree they should not participate in the discussion about
>> the selection in general, but giving each an equal chance to make
>> their case would make sense. If we do arrange a call, giving each,
>> say, 5 minutes to speak might work.
>>
>> A candidate statement would be nice, but time is perhaps too short for
>> that already.
>>
>> As for the qualifications, two points:
>>
>> First, ncuc/npoc/ncsg division: I don't see we can do more than
>> ensure there is at least one from each constituency, with the third
>> we can do whatever we like.
>>
>> Second, besides qualifications already mentioned I think it'd make
>> sense to consider the workload. It might be better to pick a person
>> over another who'd be otherwise more qualified but who has more work
>> on her or his plate already.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>> On Mar 26 19:03, Milan, Stefania (Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu) wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Steph.
>> I think the contestants should be removed from the conversation.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Da: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> per conto di Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>> Inviato: domenica 26 marzo 2017 19.58.50
>> A: mshears at cdt.org; ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>> Oggetto: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC
>>
>> So we have a day left to get this sorted.
>>
>> 1.  Should the contestants be removed from the discussion or not?
>>
>> 2.  Do we have further commentary on what the qualifying characteristics we
>> are looking for might be?
>>
>> 3.  While we have argued for a seat for NPOC, NCUC and NCSG, that actually
>> might be hard to achieve.  I dont think anyone will argue about how we sort
>> this, as long as we arent going to try to fight it out at Council.
>>
>> SP
>>
>> On 2017-03-25 20:00, mshears at cdt.org<mailto:mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> The deadline for names is end of day 27 march.
>>
>> So far we have diversity, experience and representativeness including of
>> constituencies as criteria.
>>
>> My preference would be for the PC members who are not running to discuss the
>> candidates based on these criteria and try and reach agreement.  If that is
>> not possible or appropriate we can each suggest our preferred trio and see
>> if we have any rough consensus.  Other suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>
>> From: Stephanie Perrin<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>> Sent: 25 March 2017 15:44
>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC
>>
>>
>> What is the deadline again, and how are we arranging the voting?
>>
>> cheers Stephanie
>>
>> On 2017-03-25 03:24, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree that diversity is indeed important. I would like to add that
>>
>> for that reason we should also have both of our constituencies
>>
>> represented.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not so sure if this would be a good place for a newcomer though,
>>
>> I'd like appointees to have at least some experience in this type of
>>
>> work, even if perhaps not so much in ICANN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 24 12:33, Ayden Férdeline
>> (icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> My personal preference would be to adopt principles similar to those of the
>> SSC, which entails trying to achieve a balance of representativeness,
>> diversity, and sufficient experience. So I would hope our three
>> representatives have a mixture of experience levels within the ICANN
>> community (I would welcome there being one slot set aside for a newcomer),
>> diversity (I would not support all three candidates being the same gender,
>> if all candidates are sufficiently qualified), and representativeness
>> (ideally the three representatives will be from different geographic regions
>> though I appreciate this is an imperfect metric). Or is this too simplistic
>> a rubric for assessing the candidates?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm, matthew shears
>> <mshears at cdt.org><mailto:mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Given that Renata expressed an interest before the deadline yesterday and
>> that she has been having Internet challenges I believe that we should add
>> her candidacy to the mix.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please respond to the e-mail on process I sent earlier. Obviously now with 5
>> candidates it is perhaps less clear that the "alternates" approach works.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate therefore that we agree a set of criteria for the
>> selection process. Thoughts welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>
>> Subject:      Interest in GNSO SSC
>>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:13:52 -0300
>>
>> From:      Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> [<raquino at gmail.com><mailto:raquino at gmail.com>](mailto:raquino at gmail.com)
>>
>> To:      Matthew Shears
>> [<mshears at cdt.org><mailto:mshears at cdt.org>](mailto:mshears at cdt.org)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to express interest in serving as a volunteer on the GNSO Standing
>> Selection Committee.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've joined several working groups on ICANN and have learned about the GNSO
>> work in 3 fellowship opportunities so far (1 as a fellow and 2 as coach) and
>> also participated as NCUC supported traveller in ICANN55.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've also been on working groups related to reviews and procedures such as
>> GNSO Review and past working group SCI.
>>
>>
>>
>> This would be an opportunity to learn more about working groups, teams and
>> appointments and also to help other community members who want to get more
>> involved to find their way into GNSO.
>>
>>
>>
>> My SOI
>>
>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Renata+Aquino+Ribeiro+SOI
>>
>>
>>
>> I had the impression I had sent this email before but you didn't receive it.
>> There are several flaws on my internet connection in Brazil this week so
>> please let me know if you received it and if there is still time for this
>> application.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:40:59 +0200
>>
>> From: Tapani Tarvainen
>> <ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO><mailto:ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
>>
>> Subject: Call for volunteers - GNSO Standing Selection Committee - URGENT
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> See below. We need to appoint three (3) members to the SSC.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are interested and would like to volunteer for the task,
>>
>> please let us know no later than Thursday, 23 March, 23:59 UTC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please read the council decision linked to below and explain why you
>>
>> think you would be qualified for the task.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that there's no travel support, this is all done remotely, and
>>
>> it looks like there will be a fair amount of work involved - make
>>
>> sure you can commit yourself to the time required.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded message from Nathalie Peregrine
>> <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org><mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org> -----
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 March, the GNSO Council adopted the charter for the GNSO
>>
>> Standing Selection Committee (SSC) – see
>>
>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection-committee-15mar17-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org]
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e=>.
>>
>>
>> The SSC is tasked, as requested by the GNSO Council, to 1), where
>>
>> applicable, prepare and issue calls for applications related to the
>>
>> selection or nomination of candidates for ICANN structures such as
>>
>> ICANN review teams as well as structures related to the Empowered
>>
>> Community, 2) review and evaluate all relevant applicants/candidates,
>>
>> 3) rank candidates and make selection/appointment recommendations for
>>
>> review and approval by Council and 4) communicate selections to all
>>
>> interested parties.
>>
>>
>>
>> The membership structure of the SSC is as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> The SSC shall consist of a total of 9 members appointed as follows:
>>
>> - One member appointed by each Stakeholder Group of the Contracted Party
>> House;
>>
>> - One member appointed respectively from each of the Business Constituency,
>> the Intellectual Property Constituency, and the Internet Service Providers
>> and Connectivity Providers Constituency;
>>
>> - Three members appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group; and,
>>
>> - One member from one of the three Nominating-Committee appointees to the
>> GNSO Council.
>>
>>
>>
>> The GNSO Council has tasked the SSC to carry out the review and
>>
>> selection of GNSO endorsed candidates for the Registration Directory
>>
>> Service Review Team for Council consideration at the latest by its 20
>>
>> April 2017 meeting. Furthermore, the GNSO Council has tasked the SSC
>>
>> to develop the criteria and the process for the selection of the GNSO
>>
>> Representative to the Empowered Community for GNSO Council
>>
>> consideration by its June 2017 meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your respective groups are requested to communicate their member(s) to
>>
>> the SSC to the GNSO Secretariat
>>
>> (gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>)<mailto: [g <mailto: [g
>> <mailto: [g
>> nso-secs at icann.org](mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org))><mailto:[gnso-secs at icann.org]%28mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org%29%29>
>> by 27 March at the
>>
>> latest. A first meeting of the SSC will be scheduled for Thursday 30
>>
>> March at 16.00 UTC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marika Konings
>>
>> Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for
>> Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
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