[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC

Mon Mar 27 23:38:11 EEST 2017

I agree that Ed is a must in this selection, it would be a waste of
knowledge and commitment already there waiting to serve us. We can add
diversity and freshness with Renata, but Ed for me a clear choice for this
three seats.

Cheers,
Martin

On 27 Mar 2017 10:31 p.m., "Kathy Kleiman" <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Quick note that Ed is not longer active on the Rights Protection
> Mechanisms Working Group as he stepped back a bit ago to focus on SSC and
> budget.
>
> My thought is that for the first round of a new set of rules, it is often
> useful to have the folks that drafted them on the committee. It helps to
> ensure that implementation fulfills the intent and goals (and fair
> implementation is a huge problem at ICANN, as you know!)
>
> Here, Ed wrote these rules and would be a very good person to see them off
> the ground. If appointed, I can envision he would lead this group in its
> first round. Why not send the visionary?
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> On 3/27/2017 3:52 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> As it turns out the councillors involved in the decision had had long
>> email discussion about it without including me, I will stay out of
>> this decision and leave it to them to decide it as they see fit.
>>
>> I will only say for the record that while I accept that non-public
>> discussions are sometimes necessary, I'd want them in any case to be
>> publicly known about. Perhaps we need a setup like the NomCom to be
>> able to debate and make this kind of decisions without publicity, but
>> if so I'd want that and related procedures to be agreed on in advance.
>>
>> In any case I'm happy Matthew has taken the responsibility of
>> this and I trust he gets it done in time.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>> On Mar 27 10:19, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca)
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just meant that the discussion about the candidates should take place
>>> without the candidates there.  Further, we have two candidates who are
>>> not
>>> on the policy list, so we would in fairness have to add them if we were
>>> going to have an open discussion on the PC list.
>>>
>>> I think we should leave this an NCSG discussion and make all arguments
>>> based
>>> on what makes the best slate of candidates.
>>>
>>> SP
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-03-27 02:08, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stefania and Stephanie,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by removing the contestants from the
>>>> conversation. Do you want to exclude them from even listening in?
>>>>
>>>> If we have a call around this, should it not be recorded and
>>>> transcribed?
>>>>
>>>> That would not ... be exactly transparent.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, I agree they should not participate in the discussion about
>>>> the selection in general, but giving each an equal chance to make
>>>> their case would make sense. If we do arrange a call, giving each,
>>>> say, 5 minutes to speak might work.
>>>>
>>>> A candidate statement would be nice, but time is perhaps too short for
>>>> that already.
>>>>
>>>> As for the qualifications, two points:
>>>>
>>>> First, ncuc/npoc/ncsg division: I don't see we can do more than
>>>> ensure there is at least one from each constituency, with the third
>>>> we can do whatever we like.
>>>>
>>>> Second, besides qualifications already mentioned I think it'd make
>>>> sense to consider the workload. It might be better to pick a person
>>>> over another who'd be otherwise more qualified but who has more work
>>>> on her or his plate already.
>>>>
>>>> Tapani
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 26 19:03, Milan, Stefania (Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Steph.
>>>>> I think the contestants should be removed from the conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> Da: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> per conto di Stephanie
>>>>> Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>>> Inviato: domenica 26 marzo 2017 19.58.50
>>>>> A: mshears at cdt.org; ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
>>>>> Oggetto: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have a day left to get this sorted.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Should the contestants be removed from the discussion or not?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  Do we have further commentary on what the qualifying
>>>>> characteristics we are looking for might be?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.  While we have argued for a seat for NPOC, NCUC and NCSG, that
>>>>> actually might be hard to achieve.  I dont think anyone will argue about
>>>>> how we sort this, as long as we arent going to try to fight it out at
>>>>> Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> SP
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-03-25 20:00, mshears at cdt.org<mailto:mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> The deadline for names is end of day 27 march.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far we have diversity, experience and representativeness including
>>>>> of constituencies as criteria.
>>>>>
>>>>> My preference would be for the PC members who are not running to
>>>>> discuss the candidates based on these criteria and try and reach
>>>>> agreement.  If that is not possible or appropriate we can each suggest our
>>>>> preferred trio and see if we have any rough consensus.  Other suggestions
>>>>> are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Stephanie Perrin<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>>> Sent: 25 March 2017 15:44
>>>>> To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Interest in GNSO SSC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the deadline again, and how are we arranging the voting?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers Stephanie
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-03-25 03:24, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree that diversity is indeed important. I would like to add that
>>>>>
>>>>> for that reason we should also have both of our constituencies
>>>>>
>>>>> represented.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not so sure if this would be a good place for a newcomer though,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like appointees to have at least some experience in this type of
>>>>>
>>>>> work, even if perhaps not so much in ICANN.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 24 12:33, Ayden Férdeline (icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:ic
>>>>> ann at ferdeline.com>) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My personal preference would be to adopt principles similar to those
>>>>> of the SSC, which entails trying to achieve a balance of
>>>>> representativeness, diversity, and sufficient experience. So I would hope
>>>>> our three representatives have a mixture of experience levels within the
>>>>> ICANN community (I would welcome there being one slot set aside for a
>>>>> newcomer), diversity (I would not support all three candidates being the
>>>>> same gender, if all candidates are sufficiently qualified), and
>>>>> representativeness (ideally the three representatives will be from
>>>>> different geographic regions though I appreciate this is an imperfect
>>>>> metric). Or is this too simplistic a rubric for assessing the candidates?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm, matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org
>>>>> ><mailto:mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that Renata expressed an interest before the deadline yesterday
>>>>> and that she has been having Internet challenges I believe that we should
>>>>> add her candidacy to the mix.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please respond to the e-mail on process I sent earlier. Obviously now
>>>>> with 5 candidates it is perhaps less clear that the "alternates" approach
>>>>> works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate therefore that we agree a set of criteria for the
>>>>> selection process. Thoughts welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:      Interest in GNSO SSC
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:13:52 -0300
>>>>>
>>>>> From:      Renata Aquino Ribeiro [<raquino at gmail.com><mailto:ra
>>>>> quino at gmail.com>](mailto:raquino at gmail.com)
>>>>>
>>>>> To:      Matthew Shears [<mshears at cdt.org><mailto:mshears at cdt.org
>>>>> >](mailto:mshears at cdt.org)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Matthew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to express interest in serving as a volunteer on the GNSO
>>>>> Standing Selection Committee.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've joined several working groups on ICANN and have learned about the
>>>>> GNSO work in 3 fellowship opportunities so far (1 as a fellow and 2 as
>>>>> coach) and also participated as NCUC supported traveller in ICANN55.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also been on working groups related to reviews and procedures
>>>>> such as GNSO Review and past working group SCI.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be an opportunity to learn more about working groups, teams
>>>>> and appointments and also to help other community members who want to get
>>>>> more involved to find their way into GNSO.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My SOI
>>>>>
>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Renata+Aquino+Ribeiro+SOI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the impression I had sent this email before but you didn't
>>>>> receive it. There are several flaws on my internet connection in Brazil
>>>>> this week so please let me know if you received it and if there is still
>>>>> time for this application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 21:40:59 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO><mailto:
>>>>> ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Call for volunteers - GNSO Standing Selection Committee -
>>>>> URGENT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See below. We need to appoint three (3) members to the SSC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested and would like to volunteer for the task,
>>>>>
>>>>> please let us know no later than Thursday, 23 March, 23:59 UTC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read the council decision linked to below and explain why you
>>>>>
>>>>> think you would be qualified for the task.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that there's no travel support, this is all done remotely, and
>>>>>
>>>>> it looks like there will be a fair amount of work involved - make
>>>>>
>>>>> sure you can commit yourself to the time required.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Tapani Tarvainen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Nathalie Peregrine <
>>>>> nathalie.peregrine at icann.org><mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 March, the GNSO Council adopted the charter for the GNSO
>>>>>
>>>>> Standing Selection Committee (SSC) – see
>>>>>
>>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection-
>>>>> committee-15mar17-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org] <
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.
>>>>> icann.org_en_drafts_draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommi
>>>>> ttee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSV
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The SSC is tasked, as requested by the GNSO Council, to 1), where
>>>>>
>>>>> applicable, prepare and issue calls for applications related to the
>>>>>
>>>>> selection or nomination of candidates for ICANN structures such as
>>>>>
>>>>> ICANN review teams as well as structures related to the Empowered
>>>>>
>>>>> Community, 2) review and evaluate all relevant applicants/candidates,
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) rank candidates and make selection/appointment recommendations for
>>>>>
>>>>> review and approval by Council and 4) communicate selections to all
>>>>>
>>>>> interested parties.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The membership structure of the SSC is as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The SSC shall consist of a total of 9 members appointed as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> - One member appointed by each Stakeholder Group of the Contracted
>>>>> Party House;
>>>>>
>>>>> - One member appointed respectively from each of the Business
>>>>> Constituency, the Intellectual Property Constituency, and the Internet
>>>>> Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency;
>>>>>
>>>>> - Three members appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group; and,
>>>>>
>>>>> - One member from one of the three Nominating-Committee appointees to
>>>>> the GNSO Council.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The GNSO Council has tasked the SSC to carry out the review and
>>>>>
>>>>> selection of GNSO endorsed candidates for the Registration Directory
>>>>>
>>>>> Service Review Team for Council consideration at the latest by its 20
>>>>>
>>>>> April 2017 meeting. Furthermore, the GNSO Council has tasked the SSC
>>>>>
>>>>> to develop the criteria and the process for the selection of the GNSO
>>>>>
>>>>> Representative to the Empowered Community for GNSO Council
>>>>>
>>>>> consideration by its June 2017 meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your respective groups are requested to communicate their member(s) to
>>>>>
>>>>> the SSC to the GNSO Secretariat
>>>>>
>>>>> (gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>)<mailto: [g <mailto:
>>>>> [g nso-secs at icann.org](mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org))><mailto:[gn
>>>>> so-secs at icann.org]%28mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org%29%29> by 27 March at
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> latest. A first meeting of the SSC will be scheduled for Thursday 30
>>>>>
>>>>> March at 16.00 UTC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marika Konings
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet
>>>>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>
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