[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCUC-DISCUSS] FW: [NCUC-EC] Urgent - Anti harassment policy public comment

Milan, Stefania Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu
Thu Jan 12 11:09:58 EET 2017


Dear all, dear PC
I have read the last version of the public comment on the anti-harassment policy drafted by Corinne, and support the submission on behalf of the PC, too.
However, I support Milton's reformulation of the sentence.
Thanks and sorry for getting back to you just on the day of the deadline... returning to the office after the holidays is always a tad shocking and my mailbox is still overflowing.
One last point: I want to acknowledge Corinne's dedication to and patience with this process--which sets a high bar for how public comments should be dealt with in the future! Well done!
Best, Stefania

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Da: NCSG-PC <ncsg-pc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> per conto di matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org>
Inviato: mercoledì 11 gennaio 2017 22.51.35
A: corinnecath at gmail.com; ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
Oggetto: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCUC-DISCUSS] FW: [NCUC-EC] Urgent - Anti harassment policy public comment

Please see attached comment from Milton.  Would welcome thoughts on how this is integrated.

Matthew


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Subject:        [NCUC-DISCUSS] FW: [NCUC-EC] Urgent - Anti harassment policy public comment
Date:   Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:27:07 +0000
From:   Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu><mailto:milton at gatech.edu>
To:     ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org> <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org><mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>


Sorry for being late with these comments but I’ve been busy and haven’t had time to read these until today.
I think Corinne’s draft is ok but it does not prominently deal with a major objection that was raised during the constituency’s discussion, namely the issue of whether the behavior is consensual.

What is in the draft now is at the end of the paragraph

“Similarly, consensual activities should not be covered by this policy.”

That statement  needs to be expanded and put at the beginning of the paragraph it is in. My suggestion:

“The policy as drafted contains a major oversight, in that it implies that certain kinds of behavior are not allowed per se. It completely overlooks the issue of whether the parties involved in hugging, touching, etc. are willing or consenting to the activity. The policy must make it clear that consensual activities are not covered by this policy.”

It makes more sense to put the business about “affirmative consent” _after_ that statement, as it clarifies what we mean by consent.

--MM

From: NCUC-EC [mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] On Behalf Of farzaneh badii
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>>
Subject: [NCUC-EC] Urgent - Anti harassment policy public comment

Please read this public comment on  anti-harassment policy. Corinne was the penholder, NCUC members have had the chance to comment until today and Corinne has resolved their comments.

Please read, and decide on endorsing it. The deadline for submitting it is 12 January I think, we should decide before 12th Jan. As soon as we endorse I will submit it acknowledging Corinne as the penholder.

Here is the link to the google doc.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YeZ_zCbv2RbLA5ypUnWmwNpTte8lyUOuSzlvToXHLrQ/edit





Thanks
Farzaneh

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