[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process
Edward Morris
egmorris1 at toast.net
Fri Feb 24 03:33:36 EET 2017
Thanks Avri.
This sounds like a reasonable plan to me and is rather elegant in its
simplicity. You actually don't need a lawyer or two to explain it to you,
unlike many other aspects of our internal governing systems. :)
Best,
Ed
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From: "avri doria" <avri at acm.org>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:34 AM
To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection
Process
Hi, I think we could respond that we do not accept their proposal - NCA is
not to removed from any part of the process - we insist that there be a
vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed. - as many nominees as come
forward in a week. - 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second round
between top two - 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd round of
leader against NOTA - 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave seat open
until we get our act together. - then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members
and NCA talk until we get our act together. avri On 23-Feb-17 05:49,
matthew shears wrote: > > Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and say we
are considering/or > not their doc and will be proposing something or an
alternative > version - and put some deadline on it for us - maybe end of
next week? > > And, try to get agreement on a nomination period - say next
week? or > two weeks from Monday? Probably would be useful to have the CSG
and > NCSG nomination periods run in parallel. Agree with CSG whether >
should be nomination and/or self nomination. > > In the interim start work
on the process? > > Matthew > > > On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>> Hi all, >> >> we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG
quickly. at >> least covering the topic of nomination. >> >> Best, >> >>
Rafik >> >> 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>: >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> thanks for the
response, looking for other comments on this topic. >> I think we can start
with nomination whole we work on the process >> and adjust the whole
timeline. >> how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for
>> now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we >> don't
have so much time for a long nomination period. >> >> I understand that we
are having the deadline as a mean to press >> us but we should stand and be
clear about the aspects which are >> non-negotiable with regard to the
process. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew
shears <mshears at cdt.org >> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>: >> >> Thanks Rafik >>
>> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it >> and we
are running out of time. >> >> First we had the timeline from Greg before
the meeting, which >> was not really discussed further. Then we had some
general >> discussion about the need to do something on the Board >>
selection process. People voiced their views on different >> aspects of the
process and there was concern over the >> timeline, but we did not really
decide anything (others >> please jump in as I may have missed some
important >> aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in the >>
role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG proposal >> for a
process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be >> general agreement
that the CSG proposal was not ideal. >> >> I think the key immediate thing
is us agreeing a process and >> timeline for nominations and getting that
announced, so at >> least the initial stages of the process are underway.
>> >> Matthew >> >> >> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>> Hi
everyone, >>> >>> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on
board >>> seat election. >>> First thing, is it possible to get a summary
of what or not >>> agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended
>>> intersessional? >>> >>> We also need to outline what are our
non-negotiable points >>> such as having vote, NCA participation and so on.
>>> >>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our >>>
expectations. >>> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by
end >>> of this week but we do need to be ready. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>>
Rafik >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Greg
Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com >>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> >>>
Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM >>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board
Seat Selection Process >>> To: <ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >>>
<mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org>> >>> Cc: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> We
probably need a different mailing list to finish >>> working on the Board
Seat selection process, and a small >>> group to do it, but I'll start
here, since I think this >>> is the only active mailing list with both
sides of the >>> NCPH on it. >>> >>> We basically have no time to work this
out, and we've >>> already started the process without knowing what it is
>>> exactly, since we have now received nominations. >>> >>> In addition to
the adaptation of the CPH procedures >>> previously circulated, I'm also
attaching the following >>> for consideration: >>> >>> 1. Some
bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and >>> NCSG representatives
outlining a potential draft process. >>> 2. The latest version of the ICANN
Staff Memo with a >>> revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts
from >>> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. >>> 3. A further excerpt from the
Bylaws, with Section >>> 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for
Seats >>> 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and >>>
Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). >>> >>> A few
thoughts and comments: >>> >>> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop
and go >>> through a process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks >>>
(just to go through). Talk about building the airplane >>> in the air. >>>
>>> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible >>> adjustments to the
timeline, but did not come to any >>> decisions. It's not clear to me
whether Staff is >>> preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. >>> >>>
C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we >>> should put out a
call for any other nominations ASAP >>> (though it would be nice to know
the end of the >>> nomination period). >>> >>> D. Without making any
judgments, the CPH process and >>> the NCPH bullet-points are significantly
different when >>> it comes to voting. >>> >>> E. We should figure out how
to get this process agreed >>> as quickly as possible. Given the unusual
>>> circumstances, we don't need to use this process as >>> precedent for
any future process. We just need to get >>> through this selection. One
approach is for NCSG to >>> respond to the draft sent at the end of the >>>
Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and >>> the
bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a >>> call/Adobe Connect
session ASAP to move the ball forward. >>> >>> Thanks for reading, >>> >>>
Greg >>> >>> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but >>>
nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures >>> were never
updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline >>> for naming the Director was
changed from one month to >>> two months (briefly) and then six months
prior to being >>> seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in
>>> any event, since the Bylaws references are now >>> obsolete.)) The
draft bullet-points repeated this error. >>> >>> B. Since we are doing this
with very little time >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Greg Shatan >>> *C: 917-816-6428
>>> S: gsshatan >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 >>>
gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> >>> >>> >>>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *Greg Shatan*
<gregshatanipc at gmail.com >>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> >>> Date:
Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM >>> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board
Selection Process >>> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >>>
<mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org> >>> >>> >>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC
Intersessional Participants, >>> >>> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft"
of a proposed >>> interim Board Selection Process based closely on the >>>
Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House. >>> Clean and marked
drafts are attached, showing changes >>> from the CPH document. >>> >>> A
Google Docs version can be found here, where any >>> suggested changes can
be added in "suggest" mode (but >>> everyone has "edit" >>> rights):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O
9dc/edit?usp=sharing >>>
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8
O9dc/edit?usp=sharing> >>> >>> We would hope to use this for the current
2017 Board >>> Seat process and then revisit afterward before making it >>>
a permanent rather than "interim" process. >>> >>> This has not been
reviewed by the membership of the IPC, >>> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to
start the discussion on >>> this basis, given the short amount of time we
have for >>> this year. >>> >>> We look forward to your thoughts. >>> >>>
Thanks! >>> >>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) >>>
>>> *Greg Shatan >>> *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:%28917%29%20816-6428> >>> S:
gsshatan >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:%28646%29%20845-9428> >>>
gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>
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