[NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process

Edward Morris egmorris1 at toast.net
Fri Feb 24 03:33:36 EET 2017


Thanks Avri.
  
 This sounds like a reasonable plan to me and is rather elegant in its 
simplicity. You actually don't need a lawyer or two to explain it to you, 
unlike many other aspects of our internal governing systems. :)
  
 Best,
  
 Ed 
  
  
  

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 From: "avri doria" <avri at acm.org>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:34 AM
To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection 
Process   
Hi, I think we could respond that we do not accept their proposal - NCA is 
not to removed from any part of the process - we insist that there be a 
vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed. - as many nominees as come 
forward in a week. - 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second round 
between top two - 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd round of 
leader against NOTA - 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave seat open 
until we get our act together. - then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members 
and NCA talk until we get our act together. avri On 23-Feb-17 05:49, 
matthew shears wrote: > > Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and say we 
are considering/or > not their doc and will be proposing something or an 
alternative > version - and put some deadline on it for us - maybe end of 
next week? > > And, try to get agreement on a nomination period - say next 
week? or > two weeks from Monday? Probably would be useful to have the CSG 
and > NCSG nomination periods run in parallel. Agree with CSG whether > 
should be nomination and/or self nomination. > > In the interim start work 
on the process? > > Matthew > > > On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote: 
>> Hi all, >> >> we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG 
quickly. at >> least covering the topic of nomination. >> >> Best, >> >> 
Rafik >> >> 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>: >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> thanks for the 
response, looking for other comments on this topic. >> I think we can start 
with nomination whole we work on the process >> and adjust the whole 
timeline. >> how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for 
>> now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we >> don't 
have so much time for a long nomination period. >> >> I understand that we 
are having the deadline as a mean to press >> us but we should stand and be 
clear about the aspects which are >> non-negotiable with regard to the 
process. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew 
shears <mshears at cdt.org >> <mailto:mshears at cdt.org>>: >> >> Thanks Rafik >> 
>> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it >> and we 
are running out of time. >> >> First we had the timeline from Greg before 
the meeting, which >> was not really discussed further. Then we had some 
general >> discussion about the need to do something on the Board >> 
selection process. People voiced their views on different >> aspects of the 
process and there was concern over the >> timeline, but we did not really 
decide anything (others >> please jump in as I may have missed some 
important >> aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in the >> 
role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG proposal >> for a 
process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be >> general agreement 
that the CSG proposal was not ideal. >> >> I think the key immediate thing 
is us agreeing a process and >> timeline for nominations and getting that 
announced, so at >> least the initial stages of the process are underway. 
>> >> Matthew >> >> >> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: >>> Hi 
everyone, >>> >>> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on 
board >>> seat election. >>> First thing, is it possible to get a summary 
of what or not >>> agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended 
>>> intersessional? >>> >>> We also need to outline what are our 
non-negotiable points >>> such as having vote, NCA participation and so on. 
>>> >>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our >>> 
expectations. >>> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by 
end >>> of this week but we do need to be ready. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> 
Rafik >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Greg 
Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com >>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> >>> 
Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM >>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board 
Seat Selection Process >>> To: <ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >>> 
<mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org>> >>> Cc: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> We 
probably need a different mailing list to finish >>> working on the Board 
Seat selection process, and a small >>> group to do it, but I'll start 
here, since I think this >>> is the only active mailing list with both 
sides of the >>> NCPH on it. >>> >>> We basically have no time to work this 
out, and we've >>> already started the process without knowing what it is 
>>> exactly, since we have now received nominations. >>> >>> In addition to 
the adaptation of the CPH procedures >>> previously circulated, I'm also 
attaching the following >>> for consideration: >>> >>> 1. Some 
bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and >>> NCSG representatives 
outlining a potential draft process. >>> 2. The latest version of the ICANN 
Staff Memo with a >>> revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts 
from >>> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures. >>> 3. A further excerpt from the 
Bylaws, with Section >>> 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for 
Seats >>> 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and >>> 
Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f). >>> >>> A few 
thoughts and comments: >>> >>> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop 
and go >>> through a process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks >>> 
(just to go through). Talk about building the airplane >>> in the air. >>> 
>>> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible >>> adjustments to the 
timeline, but did not come to any >>> decisions. It's not clear to me 
whether Staff is >>> preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask. >>> >>> 
C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we >>> should put out a 
call for any other nominations ASAP >>> (though it would be nice to know 
the end of the >>> nomination period). >>> >>> D. Without making any 
judgments, the CPH process and >>> the NCPH bullet-points are significantly 
different when >>> it comes to voting. >>> >>> E. We should figure out how 
to get this process agreed >>> as quickly as possible. Given the unusual 
>>> circumstances, we don't need to use this process as >>> precedent for 
any future process. We just need to get >>> through this selection. One 
approach is for NCSG to >>> respond to the draft sent at the end of the >>> 
Intersessional. However, given the gap between that and >>> the 
bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a >>> call/Adobe Connect 
session ASAP to move the ball forward. >>> >>> Thanks for reading, >>> >>> 
Greg >>> >>> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but >>> 
nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures >>> were never 
updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline >>> for naming the Director was 
changed from one month to >>> two months (briefly) and then six months 
prior to being >>> seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in 
>>> any event, since the Bylaws references are now >>> obsolete.)) The 
draft bullet-points repeated this error. >>> >>> B. Since we are doing this 
with very little time >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Greg Shatan >>> *C: 917-816-6428 
>>> S: gsshatan >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 >>> 
gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> 
---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: *Greg Shatan* 
<gregshatanipc at gmail.com >>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> >>> Date: 
Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM >>> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board 
Selection Process >>> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org >>> 
<mailto:ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org> >>> >>> >>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC 
Intersessional Participants, >>> >>> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" 
of a proposed >>> interim Board Selection Process based closely on the >>> 
Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House. >>> Clean and marked 
drafts are attached, showing changes >>> from the CPH document. >>> >>> A 
Google Docs version can be found here, where any >>> suggested changes can 
be added in "suggest" mode (but >>> everyone has "edit" >>> rights): 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O
9dc/edit?usp=sharing >>> 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8
O9dc/edit?usp=sharing> >>> >>> We would hope to use this for the current 
2017 Board >>> Seat process and then revisit afterward before making it >>> 
a permanent rather than "interim" process. >>> >>> This has not been 
reviewed by the membership of the IPC, >>> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to 
start the discussion on >>> this basis, given the short amount of time we 
have for >>> this year. >>> >>> We look forward to your thoughts. >>> >>> 
Thanks! >>> >>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams) >>> 
>>> *Greg Shatan >>> *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:%28917%29%20816-6428> >>> S: 
gsshatan >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <tel:%28646%29%20845-9428> >>> 
gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> 
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