[NCSG-PC] SSC process and my status in NCSG PC

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Ayden and Stephanie,

I take it you two are objecting to appointing Rafik without washing
the dirty laundry in public first.

As I indicated I don't see the need or use of that - not all hasty
words need to be avenged, victories don't need to include shaming
losers, not everything needs to be said out loud. And the real issue
at hand is not really all that big: sky would not fall regardless of
who we appoint to the SSC. But if we don't have a consensus then we
don't.

So, unless I've misunderstood you, I guess we'll have to start the
process over.

Perhaps we should first elect a new Vice Chair to take care of it.

Tapani


On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 09:49:43AM -0400, Stephanie Perrin (stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca) wrote:

> I agree with Ayden that this mess needs to be resolved; he has stated the
> issues well.
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> On 2017-04-06 06:17, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> > I do not have an objection to Rafik serving on the SSC, just as I did
> > not have an objection to Ed serving. I had not assessed either candidate
> > and was reserving judgement until our scheduled call for this evening,
> > when I was going to compare CVs against the publicly-developed scoring
> > rubric. However, if I am interpreting correctly the previous emails
> > which have been sent to this list today, some of us have just been
> > accused of being biased and partial towards a certain candidate, and
> > “this whole process is a mess and should be started over with clear
> > requirements and standards approved by the PC.” Then an hour later, we
> > should abandon process altogether, “There is an old tradition in my
> > culture, well I just made it up, that all new jobs go to the newlywed
> > man.” So which is it? Should we be starting over, putting out a new call
> > for candidates with a clearly defined process for how applications will
> > be evaluated — or is there actually a tacit acknowledgement that the
> > process we were following was appropriate, but there was a fear the
> > ‘wrong’ person was going to be chosen? I hate to dwell on this, as I’d
> > like us to move on as well, but I think this is important. If Rafik is
> > appointed because Ed has withdrawn, I do not want his appointment to be
> > seen by any as illegitimate.
> > 
> > Ayden Férdeline
> > linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
> > 
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] SSC process and my status in NCSG PC
> > > Local Time: 6 April 2017 11:02 AM
> > > UTC Time: 6 April 2017 10:02
> > > From: ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info
> > > To: ncsg-pc at lists.ncsg.is
> > > 
> > > Dear all,
> > > 
> > > As Ed has now withdrawn and the group of PC members reviewing
> > > candidates earlier placed Kris Seeburn on the last place,
> > > it would seem appointing Rafik now is an easy choice.
> > > 
> > > So let's do that.
> > > 
> > > As Matt earlier set deadline for the appointment tomorrow, I would
> > > suggest we wait for 24 hours for any objections from PC members, and
> > > if there are none by then, notify the SSC of our selection.
> > > 
> > > I would also like to suggest we forego further discussion of the
> > > process for time being, it isn't likely to be useful until things
> > > have calmed down a bit. But let's put it on the task list of the PC to
> > > develop processes for handling this kind of situations in the future
> > > more gracefully.
> > > 
> > > Tapani