From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 01:03:08 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 00:03:08 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
In-Reply-To: <64FACCD1-6E75-4CFA-AB33-C2F08509BCD5@gmail.com>
References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>
	<8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca>
	<F88BF4B0-4291-4118-BA4D-C7A007D77A55@EUI.eu>
	<CACpVkK2L8XW918iY6OZ0XGVcm328dM3OeWa_jFtT7zKZF0oQsw@mail.gmail.com>
	<DDF32117-AEC4-4242-AF0C-31E973065C7A@ipjustice.org>
	<6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net>
	<64FACCD1-6E75-4CFA-AB33-C2F08509BCD5@gmail.com>
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Hi,

It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?

Answers to these questions may help us move things along.

Thanks.

Amr

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
> 
> Bill
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). 
>> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
>> 
>> David
>> 
>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement again:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>> To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.
>>>> 
>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Robin
>>>> ======================================================
>>>> 
>>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>>>> 
>>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.
>>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.
>>>> 
>>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The duties of members are to
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>> M
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>> Dear PC members,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
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From egmorris1  Thu Sep  1 01:01:24 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:01:24 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
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	<6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net>
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Hi Amr,
  
 Thanks for this.
  
 In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies, I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply. Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.
  
 Would this work?
  
 Thanks for considering,
  
 Ed
  
  
  

----------------------------------------
 From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time   
 Hi,
  
 It'd be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
  
 Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
  
 Thanks.
  
 Amr
     On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
    Hi  
 I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
  
 Bill
     On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
    If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I'd be willing to do so. I'm also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I've served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC).  That said, I'm only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
  
 David
      On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
    Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here's the announcement again:  
    Begin forwarded message:
   From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
 Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
 To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
 Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
     All,  

The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.   As per NCSG's charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG's Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
  
 Thanks,
 Robin

======================================================  

CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.  

Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.  

Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.  

   

Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))  

   

The duties of members are to  

1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole  

2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required  

3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments  

   

CHAIR STRUCTURE  

   

A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.  

   

Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.  

   

It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks.   

   

Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. 

-- 
_______________________________________________
PC-NCSG mailing list
PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
    

  
     On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
    I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday.  M

   On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu> wrote:    i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
 

There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.    

I have house guests and may not be available.    

Stephanie      On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:

 Dear PC members,  My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as usual.  Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.  Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors will be), please let me know ASAP.  Thank you,    

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From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 01:25:00 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 00:25:00 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
In-Reply-To: <5e093d0ea15b4629afdf15d656b90548@toast.net>
References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>
	<8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca>
	<F88BF4B0-4291-4118-BA4D-C7A007D77A55@EUI.eu>
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	<DDF32117-AEC4-4242-AF0C-31E973065C7A@ipjustice.org>
	<6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net>
	<64FACCD1-6E75-4CFA-AB33-C2F08509BCD5@gmail.com>
	<DCE0FFE3-AEE2-4D38-AF94-AD2D110CF8E7@egyptig.org>
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Sounds good to me.

Thanks.

Amr

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amr,
>  
> Thanks for this.
>  
> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies, I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply. Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.
>  
> Would this work?
>  
> Thanks for considering,
>  
> Ed
>  
>  
>  
> From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
> To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>  
> Hi,
>  
> It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
>  
> Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amr
>  
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi
>>  
>> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
>>  
>> Bill
>>  
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). 
>>> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
>>>  
>>> David
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement again:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>>> To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
>>>>>  
>>>>> All,
>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>> 
>>>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.
>>>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> The duties of members are to
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>>> M
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear PC members,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>>>  
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>> 
>> *************************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>> *************************************************************
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From dave  Thu Sep  1 05:01:43 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:43 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
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> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amr,
>  
> Thanks for this.
>  
> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,

	While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 

> I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply.

	That sounds reasonable, though PC members need to be prepared to respond within that deadline. If that means not all views are represented due to lack of response within that short period, so be it. 

> Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.
>  
> Would this work?

	Agreed. We probably don?t have time for a formal vote as we did for the CCWG replacement role, so PC members need to be prepared to engage and make a decision via email. 
	
	David
>  
> Thanks for considering,
>  
> Ed
>  
>  
>  
> From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
> To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>  
> Hi,
>  
> It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
>  
> Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Amr
>  
>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi
>>  
>> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
>>  
>> Bill
>>  
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). 
>>> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
>>>  
>>> David
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement again:
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>>> To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
>>>>>  
>>>>> All,
>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>> 
>>>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.
>>>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> The duties of members are to
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>>> M
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear PC members,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>>>  
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>> 
>> *************************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>> *************************************************************
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>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> 
>  
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From wjdrake  Thu Sep  1 09:39:28 2016
From: wjdrake (William Drake)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:39:28 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please
	respond
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Message-ID: <29CE6566-E1EB-4D33-A60E-7FB5E737C6CB@gmail.com>

Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey? 

BD

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
> Subject: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please respond
> Date: September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
> To: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> Cc: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org>, Charla Shambley	<charla.shambley at icann.org>, Glen de Saint G?ry	<Glen at icann.org>
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> We are pleased to send a survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> to the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO Council members.  This survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO Review and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner (Westlake Governance) and ICANN Staff.  The survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> also allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their performance during the Review.
>  
>  <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> 
>  
> 
> 
> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in the survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore, anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
> 
> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes to complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity to add additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any comments you would like to provide.
> 
> The survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will remain open through 9 September 2016.
> 
> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
>  
> Kind regards,
> Glen
>  
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
> glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>
> http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>
************************************************
William J. Drake
International Fellow & Lecturer
  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
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From mariliamaciel  Thu Sep  1 10:38:24 2016
From: mariliamaciel (Marilia Maciel)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:38:24 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: Policy call time
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Dear all,

I have prepared a call for both positions. Please react with your comments
and suggestions so we can send it to the NCSG list as soon as possible.

Thanks
Marilia


Dear members of NCSG,



Our stakeholder group needs to select representatives for two positions:

1. One representative at the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)

2. Two members (primary and alternate) to the GNSO Review Working Group



This is call for volunteers who would be willing to serve on these
positions. Statements of Interest should be sent to the NCSG list
until the *3rd
of September 11:59 UTC*. Please on the subject line: "SOI [your name] CSCG"
or "SOI [your name] GNSO review".



The selection process will be conducted by the members of the NCSG Policy
Committee by means of finding rough consensus. The criteria that will be
used to evaluate the candidates is explained in each of the sections below.



* CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES*



For more info about the job of the CSCG, please do refer to their website
<http://internetgov-cs.org/>.



The new IGC Rep will serve for a period of 2 years starting September 2016
(to September 2018) and I will be stepping down from this role next year
(in September 2017) after we have elected a new Co-coordinator in
replacement of Analia (whose term expires in January 2017).



Description:

This position will not always require much of your time though it can
happen during Nomcoms or working groups. So we need someone who knows a lot
about IGF, MAG selection process and understands civil society in the IG
area as a whole. We need someone who has been active on the IGC for quite a
while and who can speak our positions.



Role of Representatives:

The duties of members are to:

1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole,

2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required,

3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments.



The Statement of Interest (SOI) will have this info:

? Name, declared region of residence, gender and employment

? Reasons for willingness to take on this task (max 200 words)

? Qualifications for this position (max 200 words)

? Statement of availability for the time the position requires (max 200
words)

? The nominee?s statement may also include any other information the
candidate believes in relevant (max 200 words).





*MEMBERS IN GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP*



*In Brief*



The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> of the
GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working
Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review
recommendations
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf>
which were recently adopted
<https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2016-06-25-en#2.e>
by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working
Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the
development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is
encouraged to volunteer.



*What This Working Group Will Do*



Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> the
GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an
implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the
implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current
state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review
recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34)
recommendations of the Final Report
<https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf>
of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding
recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for
approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board.
Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is
also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review
recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan.



The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any
new requests by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO
Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have
been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the
GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the
Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the
subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations.



Timeline and Deliverables



The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation
plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at
ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an
implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the
implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current
state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to
the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the
adoption of this resolution?i.e., December 2016.



*How to Join*



Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary
and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In
addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join
this working group as a participant or observer.  Please note that
participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively
participate in online discussions.  Observers can follow the group's work
on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor
participate actively in the calls.



NCSG policy committee will conduct a selection of the primary and alternate
member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. *Please, include in your
statement of interest*:

1.    Knowledge or practical experience with GNSO?s policy development
process

2.    Knowledge of GNSO?s operational procedures

3.   Previous experience in other GNSO working groups or in working with
other stakeholder groups.

4.   Comment on your time and availability to engage in GNSO review working
group.



*Further information and preparation*



For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to
review the following materials:

GNSO Review Recommendations
<http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf>

Independent Examiner Final Report
<https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf>

Frequently Asked Questions <https://community.icann.org/x/UBCbAw>



On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:

>
> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Amr,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
>
>
> While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on
> the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a
> couple of weeks ago.
>
> I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight
> (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply.
>
>
> That sounds reasonable, though PC members need to be prepared to respond
> within that deadline. If that means not all views are represented due to
> lack of response within that short period, so be it.
>
> Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours,
> for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on
> the side of inclusion if we can.
>
>
> Would this work?
>
>
> Agreed. We probably don?t have time for a formal vote as we did for the
> CCWG replacement role, so PC members need to be prepared to engage and make
> a decision via email.
> David
>
>
> Thanks for considering,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> *Sent*: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
> *To*: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>
> Hi,
>
> It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon
> as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2
> appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or
> select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
>
> Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
>
> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be
> willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented
> on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC).
> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no
> discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think
> are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their
> interest.
>
> David
>
>
> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
>
> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on
> the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement
> again:
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
> *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
> *To: *NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
> *Cc: *NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process
> Adjustments*
>
> All,
>
> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes,
> including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a
> regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members,
> including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning
> this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are
> below.
> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee
> to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> ======================================================
>
> *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES*
> *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to
> their own internal processes, on the CSCG.*
>
> *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there
> is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.*
>
> *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down
> for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.*
>
>
> *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year.
> (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016,
> each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year
> term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not
> count in new procedures being adopted))*
>
>
> *The duties of members are to*
>
> *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole*
>
> *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required*
>
> *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments*
>
>
> *CHAIR STRUCTURE*
>
>
> *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member
> representatives  for two year terms.*
>
>
> *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms
> expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.*
>
>
> *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are
> selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to
> representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these
> tasks. *
>
>
> *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will
> be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.*
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday.
> M
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>
> wrote:
>>
>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on
>> Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>
>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>
>> Dear PC members,
>>
>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>> usual.
>>
>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>
>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From dave  Thu Sep  1 12:02:10 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:02:10 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: Policy call
	time
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I think the first occurrence of IGC should read CSCG. Otherwise looks ok to me. 


> On 1 Sep 2016, at 3:38 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I have prepared a call for both positions. Please react with your comments and suggestions so we can send it to the NCSG list as soon as possible.
> 
> Thanks
> Marilia
> 
> 
> Dear members of NCSG,
> 
>  
> Our stakeholder group needs to select representatives for two positions: 
> 
> 1. One representative at the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)
> 
> 2. Two members (primary and alternate) to the GNSO Review Working Group
> 
>  
> This is call for volunteers who would be willing to serve on these positions. Statements of Interest should be sent to the NCSG list until the 3rd of September 11:59 UTC. Please on the subject line: "SOI [your name] CSCG" or "SOI [your name] GNSO review".
> 
>  
> The selection process will be conducted by the members of the NCSG Policy Committee by means of finding rough consensus. The criteria that will be used to evaluate the candidates is explained in each of the sections below. 
> 
>  
>  CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
> 
>  
> For more info about the job of the CSCG, please do refer to their website <http://internetgov-cs.org/>.
> 
>  
> The new IGC Rep will serve for a period of 2 years starting September 2016 (to September 2018) and I will be stepping down from this role next year (in September 2017) after we have elected a new Co-coordinator in replacement of Analia (whose term expires in January 2017).
> 
>  
> Description: 
> 
> This position will not always require much of your time though it can happen during Nomcoms or working groups. So we need someone who knows a lot about IGF, MAG selection process and understands civil society in the IG area as a whole. We need someone who has been active on the IGC for quite a while and who can speak our positions.
> 
>  
> Role of Representatives:
> 
> The duties of members are to:
> 
> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole,
> 
> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required,
> 
> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments.
> 
>  
> The Statement of Interest (SOI) will have this info:
> 
> ? Name, declared region of residence, gender and employment
> 
> ? Reasons for willingness to take on this task (max 200 words)
> 
> ? Qualifications for this position (max 200 words)
> 
> ? Statement of availability for the time the position requires (max 200 words)
> 
> ? The nominee?s statement may also include any other information the candidate believes in relevant (max 200 words).
> 
>  
>  
> MEMBERS IN GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP
> 
>  
> In Brief
> 
>  
> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf> which were recently adopted <https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2016-06-25-en#2.e> by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer.
> 
>  
> What This Working Group Will Do
> 
>  
> Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf> of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan.
> 
>  
> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. 
> 
>  
> Timeline and Deliverables
> 
>  
> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?i.e., December 2016. 
> 
>  
> How to Join
> 
>  
> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer.  Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions.  Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls.
> 
>  
> NCSG policy committee will conduct a selection of the primary and alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. Please, include in your statement of interest:
> 
> 1.    Knowledge or practical experience with GNSO?s policy development process
> 
> 2.    Knowledge of GNSO?s operational procedures
> 
> 3.   Previous experience in other GNSO working groups or in working with other stakeholder groups.
> 
> 4.   Comment on your time and availability to engage in GNSO review working group.
> 
>  
> 
> Further information and preparation
> 
>  
> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials:
> 
> GNSO Review Recommendations <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf>
> Independent Examiner Final Report <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf>
> Frequently Asked Questions <https://community.icann.org/x/UBCbAw>
>  
> 
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
> 
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amr,
>>  
>> Thanks for this.
>>  
>> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
> 
> 	While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 
> 
>> I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply.
> 
> 	That sounds reasonable, though PC members need to be prepared to respond within that deadline. If that means not all views are represented due to lack of response within that short period, so be it. 
> 
>> Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.
>>  
>> Would this work?
> 
> 	Agreed. We probably don?t have time for a formal vote as we did for the CCWG replacement role, so PC members need to be prepared to engage and make a decision via email. 
> 	
> 	David
> 
>>  
>> Thanks for considering,
>>  
>> Ed
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
>> To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
>>  
>> Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Amr
>>  
>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi
>>>  
>>> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
>>>  
>>> Bill
>>>  
>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). 
>>>> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
>>>>  
>>>> David
>>>>  
>>>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement again:
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>>>> To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.
>>>>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The duties of members are to
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>>>> M
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear PC members,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>>>>  
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>>> 
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>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
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>>  
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From egmorris1  Thu Sep  1 13:53:28 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 06:53:28 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: Policy call
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Agreed.
  
  
  

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 From: "David Cake" <dave at davecake.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:02 AM
To: "Marilia Maciel" <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
Cc: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
Subject: Re: Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time   
I think the first occurrence of IGC should read CSCG. Otherwise looks ok to me.    
     On 1 Sep 2016, at 3:38 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
    Dear all,  
 I have prepared a call for both positions. Please react with your comments and suggestions so we can send it to the NCSG list as soon as possible.
  
 Thanks
 Marilia
  
  

Dear members of NCSG,     

Our stakeholder group needs to select representatives for two positions:    

1. One representative at the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)   

2. Two members (primary and alternate) to the GNSO Review Working Group     

This is call for volunteers who would be willing to serve on these positions. Statements of Interest should be sent to the NCSG list until the 3rd of September 11:59 UTC. Please on the subject line: "SOI [your name] CSCG" or "SOI [your name] GNSO review".     

The selection process will be conducted by the members of the NCSG Policy Committee by means of finding rough consensus. The criteria that will be used to evaluate the candidates is explained in each of the sections below.      

 CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES     

For more info about the job of the CSCG, please do refer to their website.     

The new IGC Rep will serve for a period of 2 years starting September 2016 (to September 2018) and I will be stepping down from this role next year (in September 2017) after we have elected a new Co-coordinator in replacement of Analia (whose term expires in January 2017).     

Description:    

This position will not always require much of your time though it can happen during Nomcoms or working groups. So we need someone who knows a lot about IGF, MAG selection process and understands civil society in the IG area as a whole. We need someone who has been active on the IGC for quite a while and who can speak our positions.     

Role of Representatives:   

The duties of members are to:   

1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole,   

2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required,   

3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments.     

The Statement of Interest (SOI) will have this info:   

. Name, declared region of residence, gender and employment   

. Reasons for willingness to take on this task (max 200 words)   

. Qualifications for this position (max 200 words)   

. Statement of availability for the time the position requires (max 200 words)   

. The nominee's statement may also include any other information the candidate believes in relevant (max 200 words).     
   

MEMBERS IN GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP     

In Brief     

The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations which were recently adopted by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer.     

What This Working Group Will Do     

Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan.     

The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations.      

Timeline and Deliverables     

The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of 'an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution'i.e., December 2016.      

How to Join     

Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer.  Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions.  Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls.     

NCSG policy committee will conduct a selection of the primary and alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. Please, include in your statement of interest:   

1.    Knowledge or practical experience with GNSO's policy development process    

2.    Knowledge of GNSO's operational procedures   

3.   Previous experience in other GNSO working groups or in working with other stakeholder groups.  

4.   Comment on your time and availability to engage in GNSO review working group.  

    

Further information and preparation     

For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials:   

GNSO Review Recommendations   

Independent Examiner Final Report   

Frequently Asked Questions    

   On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:       On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
    Hi Amr,
  
 Thanks for this.
  
 In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,

   
While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 
     I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply. 

   
That sounds reasonable, though PC members need to be prepared to respond within that deadline. If that means not all views are represented due to lack of response within that short period, so be it. 
     Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.

     
 Would this work?

   
Agreed. We probably don't have time for a formal vote as we did for the CCWG replacement role, so PC members need to be prepared to engage and make a decision via email. 
  
 David         
 Thanks for considering,
  
 Ed
  
  
  

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 From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time    
   Hi,
    
   It'd be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
    
   Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
    
   Thanks.
    
   Amr
       On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
     Hi    
   I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
    
   Bill
         On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
     If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I'd be willing to do so. I'm also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I've served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC).    That said, I'm only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
    
   David
          On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:
     Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here's the announcement again:    
        Begin forwarded message:
    From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org>
   Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
   To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
   Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
   Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
       All,  

The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.     As per NCSG's charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG's Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
    
   Thanks,
   Robin

======================================================  

CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES  Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.  

Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.  

Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.   

Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))   

The duties of members are to  

1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole  

2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required  

3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments   

CHAIR STRUCTURE   

A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.   

Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.   

It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks.    

Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.  

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         On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com> wrote:
     I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday.    M

     On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu> wrote:     i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
 

There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.    

I have house guests and may not be available.    

Stephanie       On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:

 Dear PC members,  My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as usual.  Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.  Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors will be), please let me know ASAP.  Thank you,     

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From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 14:12:06 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:12:06 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
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Hi,

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Amr,
>>  
>> Thanks for this.
>>  
>> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
> 
> 	While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 

Agreed David. However, since we?re playing catch-up, I was wondering how the PC felt about, specifically, the GNSO Review WG. There was a call for volunteers for this WG, which was circulated twice to NCSG-DISCUSS, once by Maryam, and once by Renata, but we didn?t get too many takers.

So I was wondering whether we should appoint from those who have already shown interest, and signed up, or send another call for volunteers to the list.

I?m really fine whichever way we go at this point, as long as we get it done?, quickly.

Thanks.

Amr
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From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 14:14:26 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:14:26 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY -
	Please respond
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Hi,

To be honest, I completely forgot about it. Lars contacted me yesterday telling me that the number of responses have been underwhelming. I suspect that folks across the GNSO are pretty distracted right now.

He also told me that Glen would be sending reminders, and asked that I bring it up during today?s Council call, so I?ll do that.

I?ll also try to fill it in over the weekend.

Thanks.

Amr

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey? 
> 
> BD
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>> Subject: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please respond
>> Date: September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
>> To: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
>> Cc: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org <mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org>>, Charla Shambley	<charla.shambley at icann.org <mailto:charla.shambley at icann.org>>, Glen de Saint G?ry	<Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> We are pleased to send a survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> to the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO Council members.  This survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO Review and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner (Westlake Governance) and ICANN Staff.  The survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> also allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their performance during the Review.
>>  
>> <image002.png> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in the survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore, anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
>> 
>> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes to complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity to add additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any comments you would like to provide.
>> 
>> The survey <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will remain open through 9 September 2016.
>> 
>> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
>>  
>> Kind regards,
>> Glen
>>  
>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>> glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>
>> http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>
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From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 14:15:28 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:15:28 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: Policy call
	time
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Thanks for this Marilia.

Amr

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
> 
> Agreed.
>  
>  
>  
> From: "David Cake" <dave at davecake.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:02 AM
> To: "Marilia Maciel" <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Re: Draft call for CSCG and GNSO Review Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>  
> I think the first occurrence of IGC should read CSCG. Otherwise looks ok to me. 
>  
>  
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 3:38 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Dear all,
>>  
>> I have prepared a call for both positions. Please react with your comments and suggestions so we can send it to the NCSG list as soon as possible.
>>  
>> Thanks
>> Marilia
>>  
>>  
>> Dear members of NCSG,
>> 
>>  
>> Our stakeholder group needs to select representatives for two positions: 
>> 
>> 1. One representative at the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)
>> 
>> 2. Two members (primary and alternate) to the GNSO Review Working Group
>> 
>>  
>> This is call for volunteers who would be willing to serve on these positions. Statements of Interest should be sent to the NCSG list until the 3rd of September 11:59 UTC. Please on the subject line: "SOI [your name] CSCG" or "SOI [your name] GNSO review".
>> 
>>  
>> The selection process will be conducted by the members of the NCSG Policy Committee by means of finding rough consensus. The criteria that will be used to evaluate the candidates is explained in each of the sections below. 
>> 
>>  
>>  CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>> 
>>  
>> For more info about the job of the CSCG, please do refer to their website <http://internetgov-cs.org/>.
>> 
>>  
>> The new IGC Rep will serve for a period of 2 years starting September 2016 (to September 2018) and I will be stepping down from this role next year (in September 2017) after we have elected a new Co-coordinator in replacement of Analia (whose term expires in January 2017).
>> 
>>  
>> Description: 
>> 
>> This position will not always require much of your time though it can happen during Nomcoms or working groups. So we need someone who knows a lot about IGF, MAG selection process and understands civil society in the IG area as a whole. We need someone who has been active on the IGC for quite a while and who can speak our positions.
>> 
>>  
>> Role of Representatives:
>> 
>> The duties of members are to:
>> 
>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole,
>> 
>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required,
>> 
>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments.
>> 
>>  
>> The Statement of Interest (SOI) will have this info:
>> 
>> ? Name, declared region of residence, gender and employment
>> 
>> ? Reasons for willingness to take on this task (max 200 words)
>> 
>> ? Qualifications for this position (max 200 words)
>> 
>> ? Statement of availability for the time the position requires (max 200 words)
>> 
>> ? The nominee?s statement may also include any other information the candidate believes in relevant (max 200 words).
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> MEMBERS IN GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP
>> 
>>  
>> In Brief
>> 
>>  
>> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf> which were recently adopted <https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2016-06-25-en#2.e> by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer.
>> 
>>  
>> What This Working Group Will Do
>> 
>>  
>> Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf> of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan.
>> 
>>  
>> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. 
>> 
>>  
>> Timeline and Deliverables
>> 
>>  
>> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?i.e., December 2016. 
>> 
>>  
>> How to Join
>> 
>>  
>> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer.  Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions.  Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls.
>> 
>>  
>> NCSG policy committee will conduct a selection of the primary and alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. Please, include in your statement of interest:
>> 
>> 1.    Knowledge or practical experience with GNSO?s policy development process
>> 
>> 2.    Knowledge of GNSO?s operational procedures
>> 
>> 3.   Previous experience in other GNSO working groups or in working with other stakeholder groups.
>> 
>> 4.   Comment on your time and availability to engage in GNSO review working group.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Further information and preparation
>> 
>>  
>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials:
>> 
>> GNSO Review Recommendations <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf>
>> Independent Examiner Final Report <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf>
>> Frequently Asked Questions <https://community.icann.org/x/UBCbAw>
>>  
>>  
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>>  
>>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Amr,
>>>  
>>> Thanks for this.
>>>  
>>> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
>>  
>> While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 
>>  
>>> 
>>> I'd suggest sending out a call for both positions with an extremely tight (as in 2 days or so) deadline for reply.
>>  
>> That sounds reasonable, though PC members need to be prepared to respond within that deadline. If that means not all views are represented due to lack of response within that short period, so be it. 
>>  
>>> 
>>> Then impose the same type of deadline, perhaps even as short as 24 hours, for the PC to select. We need to get this done pronto but I'd rather err on the side of inclusion if we can.
>>>  
>>> Would this work?
>>  
>> Agreed. We probably don?t have time for a formal vote as we did for the CCWG replacement role, so PC members need to be prepared to engage and make a decision via email. 
>>  
>> David
>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Thanks for considering,
>>>  
>>> Ed
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:52 PM
>>> To: "NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> It?d be really great if the PC can get these appointments settled as soon as possible. Do we need to send out a call for volunteers for the CSCG2 appointment? And do we want to do the same for the GNSO Review WG, or select our members from those who have already signed up as participants?
>>>  
>>> Answers to these questions may help us move things along.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Amr
>>>  
>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:58 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi
>>>>  
>>>> I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-)
>>>>  
>>>> Bill
>>>>  
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). 
>>>>> That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> David
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the announcement again:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>>>>> To: NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details are below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.
>>>>>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> The duties of members are to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives  for two year terms.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Stephanie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear PC members,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>>>>> usual.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>_______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg> 
>>>> 
>>>> *************************************************************
>>>> William J. Drake
>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>>>> *************************************************************
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>>  
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
>>  
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From dave  Thu Sep  1 15:12:16 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 20:12:16 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
In-Reply-To: <0544F5FE-52B4-4B2A-8F11-41B54C334075@egyptig.org>
References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>
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If its already been circulated to the general NCSG list, I have no issue with appointing from those who have shown interest already. 

David

> On 1 Sep 2016, at 7:12 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net <mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net <mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Amr,
>>>  
>>> Thanks for this.
>>>  
>>> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
>> 
>> 	While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a couple of weeks ago. 
> 
> Agreed David. However, since we?re playing catch-up, I was wondering how the PC felt about, specifically, the GNSO Review WG. There was a call for volunteers for this WG, which was circulated twice to NCSG-DISCUSS, once by Maryam, and once by Renata, but we didn?t get too many takers.
> 
> So I was wondering whether we should appoint from those who have already shown interest, and signed up, or send another call for volunteers to the list.
> 
> I?m really fine whichever way we go at this point, as long as we get it done?, quickly.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Amr

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From mariliamaciel  Thu Sep  1 16:39:28 2016
From: mariliamaciel (Marilia Maciel)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:39:28 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
In-Reply-To: <92EBF1F2-B8FA-457B-B66B-9786467E5B1E@davecake.net>
References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>
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	<DCE0FFE3-AEE2-4D38-AF94-AD2D110CF8E7@egyptig.org>
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Message-ID: <CACpVkK2eUSkf5hvW1pxjPunU6Gz0iZdiuxE3sQ7mZ4Woq1taxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amr and David,

It was also my first reaction that we could choose among those that
expressed interest in an individual capacity. However, on second though,
 these people signed up to follow the discussions, they did not sign up for
the additional burden to represent NCSG there, which may entail additional
work, such as reporting, seeking input from the group, facilitating NCSG's
input into the process if needed, etc. Therefore, I tend to think (although
open to be convinced otherwise) that we should issue a call.

Best,
Marilia

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:

> If its already been circulated to the general NCSG list, I have no issue
> with appointing from those who have shown interest already.
>
> David
>
> On 1 Sep 2016, at 7:12 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Amr,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
>
>
> While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on
> the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a
> couple of weeks ago.
>
>
> Agreed David. However, since we?re playing catch-up, I was wondering how
> the PC felt about, specifically, the GNSO Review WG. There was a call for
> volunteers for this WG, which was circulated twice to NCSG-DISCUSS, once by
> Maryam, and once by Renata, but we didn?t get too many takers.
>
> So I was wondering whether we should appoint from those who have already
> shown interest, and signed up, or send another call for volunteers to the
> list.
>
> I?m really fine whichever way we go at this point, as long as we get it
> done?, quickly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
>
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From pileleji  Thu Sep  1 16:53:26 2016
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:53:26 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
In-Reply-To: <CACpVkK2eUSkf5hvW1pxjPunU6Gz0iZdiuxE3sQ7mZ4Woq1taxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>
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	<64FACCD1-6E75-4CFA-AB33-C2F08509BCD5@gmail.com>
	<DCE0FFE3-AEE2-4D38-AF94-AD2D110CF8E7@egyptig.org>
	<5e093d0ea15b4629afdf15d656b90548@toast.net>
	<E91732E0-54D4-41F2-AFCF-41664DF131B6@davecake.net>
	<0544F5FE-52B4-4B2A-8F11-41B54C334075@egyptig.org>
	<92EBF1F2-B8FA-457B-B66B-9786467E5B1E@davecake.net>
	<CACpVkK2eUSkf5hvW1pxjPunU6Gz0iZdiuxE3sQ7mZ4Woq1taxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEux40soKYdQOAJQZtUr37w4eHxeJXKuKBmkiELsLV8aQh2heA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Marilia,

Good day, I will concur with you, I think the best option is to issue a
call.

Thanks

Poncelet

On 1 September 2016 at 13:39, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Amr and David,
>
> It was also my first reaction that we could choose among those that
> expressed interest in an individual capacity. However, on second though,
>  these people signed up to follow the discussions, they did not sign up for
> the additional burden to represent NCSG there, which may entail additional
> work, such as reporting, seeking input from the group, facilitating NCSG's
> input into the process if needed, etc. Therefore, I tend to think (although
> open to be convinced otherwise) that we should issue a call.
>
> Best,
> Marilia
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
>
>> If its already been circulated to the general NCSG list, I have no issue
>> with appointing from those who have shown interest already.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 7:12 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:01 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 6:01 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amr,
>>
>> Thanks for this.
>>
>> In fairness to everyone, including both constituencies,
>>
>>
>> While of course both constituencies have reps on the PC, a public call on
>> the NCSG list sounds like a sensible idea that should have been done a
>> couple of weeks ago.
>>
>>
>> Agreed David. However, since we?re playing catch-up, I was wondering how
>> the PC felt about, specifically, the GNSO Review WG. There was a call for
>> volunteers for this WG, which was circulated twice to NCSG-DISCUSS, once by
>> Maryam, and once by Renata, but we didn?t get too many takers.
>>
>> So I was wondering whether we should appoint from those who have already
>> shown interest, and signed up, or send another call for volunteers to the
>> list.
>>
>> I?m really fine whichever way we go at this point, as long as we get it
>> done?, quickly.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
>


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From aelsadr  Thu Sep  1 17:54:18 2016
From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:54:18 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time
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Hi,

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at YMCA.GM> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marilia,
> 
> Good day, I will concur with you, I think the best option is to issue a call.

Same here.

Thanks again.

Amr


From stephanie.perrin  Thu Sep  1 19:07:16 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:07:16 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY -
 Please respond
In-Reply-To: <7588525E-A43E-46E9-BA34-B35CBD7ACFCD@egyptig.org>
References: <54d5cf008d7a438a8ba10e202d605145@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<29CE6566-E1EB-4D33-A60E-7FB5E737C6CB@gmail.com>
	<7588525E-A43E-46E9-BA34-B35CBD7ACFCD@egyptig.org>
Message-ID: <28f8a042-e9eb-9502-85aa-c5cc959a8e31@mail.utoronto.ca>

It only takes a few minutes, even if you fill the rant boxes (which I 
can assure you I did).

steph

PS I recommend keeping the assessment committee which was trialed on 
this (wrong title).  It really saved our bacon on this mess, and worked 
well....



On 2016-09-01 7:14, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To be honest, I completely forgot about it. Lars contacted me 
> yesterday telling me that the number of responses have been 
> underwhelming. I suspect that folks across the GNSO are pretty 
> distracted right now.
>
> He also told me that Glen would be sending reminders, and asked that I 
> bring it up during today?s Council call, so I?ll do that.
>
> I?ll also try to fill it in over the weekend.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey?
>>
>> BD
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>> *Subject: **REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please respond*
>>> *Date: *September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
>>> *To: *William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
>>> *Cc: *Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org>>, Charla Shambley 
>>> <charla.shambley at icann.org <mailto:charla.shambley at icann.org>>, Glen 
>>> de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>
>>> We are pleased to send asurvey 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>to 
>>> the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO 
>>> Council members. Thissurvey 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>>> give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO 
>>> Review and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner 
>>> (Westlake Governance) and ICANN Staff.  Thesurvey 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>also 
>>> allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their 
>>> performance during the Review.
>>>
>>>
>>> 	<image002.png> 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>
>>>
>>>
>>> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have 
>>> been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in 
>>> thesurvey 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>>> be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore, 
>>> anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
>>>
>>> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes 
>>> to complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity to 
>>> add additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any 
>>> comments you would like to provide.
>>>
>>> Thesurvey 
>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>>> remain open through 9 September 2016.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Glen
>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>>> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>>> *glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>*
>>> *http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>*
>>
>> ************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), 
>> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>> www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>> ************************************************
>>
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From stephanie.perrin  Thu Sep  1 19:19:03 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:19:03 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY -
 Please respond
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I did

steph


On 2016-09-01 2:39, William Drake wrote:
> Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey?
>
> BD
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>> *Subject: **REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please respond*
>> *Date: *September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
>> *To: *William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
>> *Cc: *Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org 
>> <mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org>>, Charla Shambley 
>> <charla.shambley at icann.org <mailto:charla.shambley at icann.org>>, Glen 
>> de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>
>> We are pleased to send asurvey 
>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>to 
>> the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO 
>> Council members.  Thissurvey 
>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>> give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO Review 
>> and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner (Westlake 
>> Governance) and ICANN Staff.  Thesurvey 
>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>also 
>> allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their 
>> performance during the Review.
>>
>>
>> 	<http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>
>>
>>
>> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have 
>> been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in 
>> thesurvey 
>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>> be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore, 
>> anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
>>
>> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes to 
>> complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity to add 
>> additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any comments 
>> you would like to provide.
>>
>> Thesurvey 
>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>will 
>> remain open through 9 September 2016.
>>
>> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
>> Kind regards,
>> Glen
>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>> *glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>*
>> *http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>*
>
> ************************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), 
> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
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>
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From avri  Fri Sep  2 07:04:19 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 00:04:19 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] GNSO Review Working Group
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Hi,

If you notice,
<https://community.icann.org/display/GRWG/WG+members+and+mailing+list>
list 6 slots for the CSG and only 2 for each of the other SGs.

Given this, I see no reason why NCSG should not pick its two, and that
both NCUC and NPOC should not also pick two.

avri


On 29-Aug-16 14:08, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>
> Dear Amr
>
> Thanks for the information, and I fully understand that it is not your
> decision at all. I just wanted to indicate that it would be good to
> have a NPOC member involved and that the PC member should take this
> into consideration
>
> Yours
>
> Klaus
>
> On 8/29/2016 2:09 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> [Changes Subject Line]
>>
>> Hi Klaus,
>>
>> I?m not sure I understand your question. If you would clarify, I?d be
>> grateful. I?m pretty sure I can?t ensure that the two NCSG members
>> who will be appointed will be members of NPOC, if that?s what you
>> mean. That?s a decision for the full Policy Committee.
>>
>> Noteworthy to mention that there was a call for volunteers for this
>> WG, where anybody could sign up as participants or observers. The
>> deadline to do this was August 19th. Maryam posted the announcement
>> on NCSG-DISCUSS on July 27th
>> (https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1607&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=115142).
>>
>> Currently, there are four NCSG members who have signed up as
>> participants to this WG:
>>
>> 1. Rafik Dammak
>> 2. Avri Doria
>> 3. Pascal Bekono
>> 4. Amr Elsadr
>>
>> The PC will have to select NCSG?s members on this WG, either from
>> within these four, or from outside of them. I?m happy to discuss how
>> we can do this, and again, this can?t be my decision alone. We should
>> also pay attention to the fact that this WG will also assume the
>> mandate of the SCI, if it is disbanded on this week?s Council call,
>> so that?s something we may want to take into consideration when
>> making appointments. NPOC has had active members on the SCI in the
>> past. In fact Rudi has been the SCI Chair for the past year as well
>> as a member of the GNSO Review Working Party, but he unfortunately
>> hasn?t signed up for this WG.
>>
>> Speaking for myself, I?m happy to continue being a participant on the
>> WG, and would prefer not to be either the primary or alternate NCSG
>> member.
>>
>> Would be happy to continue this discussion here, but really do think
>> we should bring it up on our monthly policy call.
>>
>> I hope this helped, Klaus.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM
>>> <mailto:kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Amr
>>>
>>> Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as
>>> primary and alternate members of the GNSO Review working group.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>> Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and
>>>> alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can
>>>> include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> Amr
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG
>>>>> <mailto:robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to
>>>>> serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the
>>>>> announcement again:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
>>>>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>> *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
>>>>>> *To: *NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>>>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
>>>>>> *Cc: *NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
>>>>>> <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
>>>>>> *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process
>>>>>> Adjustments*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small
>>>>>> changes, including each coalition will soon have 2
>>>>>> representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting
>>>>>> chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG,
>>>>>> only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this
>>>>>> September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details
>>>>>> are below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy
>>>>>> Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ======================================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen
>>>>>> according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so
>>>>>> that there is an annual replacement of one representative per
>>>>>> coalition.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then
>>>>>> stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for
>>>>>> further selection.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar
>>>>>> year. (note: for the initial establishment of member
>>>>>> representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of
>>>>>> its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year
>>>>>> term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new
>>>>>> procedures being adopted))*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The duties of members are to*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *CHAIR STRUCTURE*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member
>>>>>> representatives  for two year terms.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member
>>>>>> terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs
>>>>>> are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed
>>>>>> to representatives from broader civil society are approached to
>>>>>> take on these tasks. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the
>>>>>> coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement
>>>>>> representative.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel
>>>>>> <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. 
>>>>>> M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania
>>>>>> <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole
>>>>>>     day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>>>>>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I have house guests and may not be available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Stephanie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>>>>>     Dear PC members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on
>>>>>>>>     Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as
>>>>>>>>     usual.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
>>>>>>>>     time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible
>>>>>>>>     timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but
>>>>>>>>     if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
>>>>>>>>     (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors
>>>>>>>>     will be), please let me know ASAP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thank you,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     _______________________________________________
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From avri  Fri Sep  2 07:09:26 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 00:09:26 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY -
 Please respond
In-Reply-To: <28f8a042-e9eb-9502-85aa-c5cc959a8e31@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <54d5cf008d7a438a8ba10e202d605145@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
	<29CE6566-E1EB-4D33-A60E-7FB5E737C6CB@gmail.com>
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Hi,

I avoided the rant boxes.  It was really quick to do.

avri



On 01-Sep-16 12:07, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> It only takes a few minutes, even if you fill the rant boxes (which I
> can assure you I did).
>
> steph
>
> PS I recommend keeping the assessment committee which was trialed on
> this (wrong title).  It really saved our bacon on this mess, and
> worked well....
>
>
>
> On 2016-09-01 7:14, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> To be honest, I completely forgot about it. Lars contacted me
>> yesterday telling me that the number of responses have been
>> underwhelming. I suspect that folks across the GNSO are pretty
>> distracted right now.
>>
>> He also told me that Glen would be sending reminders, and asked that
>> I bring it up during today?s Council call, so I?ll do that.
>>
>> I?ll also try to fill it in over the weekend.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey? 
>>>
>>> BD
>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>> *Subject: **REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please
>>>> respond*
>>>> *Date: *September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
>>>> *To: *William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
>>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
>>>> *Cc: *Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org>>, Charla Shambley
>>>> <charla.shambley at icann.org <mailto:charla.shambley at icann.org>>,
>>>> Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> We are pleased to send a survey
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> to
>>>> the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO
>>>> Council members.  This survey
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
>>>> give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO
>>>> Review and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner
>>>> (Westlake Governance) and ICANN Staff.  The survey
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> also
>>>> allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their
>>>> performance during the Review.
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 	<image002.png>
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have
>>>> been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in
>>>> the survey
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
>>>> be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore,
>>>> anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes
>>>> to complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity
>>>> to add additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any
>>>> comments you would like to provide.
>>>>
>>>> The survey
>>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
>>>> remain open through 9 September 2016.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
>>>>  
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Glen
>>>>  
>>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>>>> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>>>> *glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>*
>>>> *http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>*
>>>
>>> ************************************************
>>> William J. Drake
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>> william.drake at uzh.ch
>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
>>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
>>> ************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
>
>
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From pileleji  Fri Sep  2 12:02:14 2016
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:02:14 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY -
 Please respond
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Done also myself.

Thanks

On 2 September 2016 at 04:09, avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I avoided the rant boxes.  It was really quick to do.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 01-Sep-16 12:07, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> >
> > It only takes a few minutes, even if you fill the rant boxes (which I
> > can assure you I did).
> >
> > steph
> >
> > PS I recommend keeping the assessment committee which was trialed on
> > this (wrong title).  It really saved our bacon on this mess, and
> > worked well....
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2016-09-01 7:14, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> To be honest, I completely forgot about it. Lars contacted me
> >> yesterday telling me that the number of responses have been
> >> underwhelming. I suspect that folks across the GNSO are pretty
> >> distracted right now.
> >>
> >> He also told me that Glen would be sending reminders, and asked that
> >> I bring it up during today?s Council call, so I?ll do that.
> >>
> >> I?ll also try to fill it in over the weekend.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Amr
> >>
> >>> On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is anyone still active in the GNSO review process doing this survey?
> >>>
> >>> BD
> >>>
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>> *From: *Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
> >>>> *Subject: **REMINDER: Feedback on GNSO Review - SURVEY - Please
> >>>> respond*
> >>>> *Date: *September 1, 2016 at 00:34:23 GMT+2
> >>>> *To: *William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
> >>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
> >>>> *Cc: *Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann at icann.org
> >>>> <mailto:lars.hoffmann at icann.org>>, Charla Shambley
> >>>> <charla.shambley at icann.org <mailto:charla.shambley at icann.org>>,
> >>>> Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We are pleased to send a survey
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> to
> >>>> the GNSO Review Working Party members, and current and former GNSO
> >>>> Council members.  This survey
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
> >>>> give responders an opportunity to provide feedback on the GNSO
> >>>> Review and evaluate work performed by the Independent Examiner
> >>>> (Westlake Governance) and ICANN Staff.  The survey
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> also
> >>>> allows the Working Party to provide a self-assessment of their
> >>>> performance during the Review.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    <image002.png>
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We want to know what worked, what didn't work, and what could have
> >>>> been done better.  With this in mind, the information provided in
> >>>> the survey
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
> >>>> be collected and used to improve future reviews.  Therefore,
> >>>> anonymous, aggregate responses will be published on the wiki.
> >>>>
> >>>> All responses are optional and should take no more than 15 minutes
> >>>> to complete.  At the end of each section, there is an opportunity
> >>>> to add additional comments in a free-text field.  Please add any
> >>>> comments you would like to provide.
> >>>>
> >>>> The survey
> >>>> <http://survey.clicktools.com/app/survey/go.jsp?iv=ggl9zzqcmdw1> will
> >>>> remain open through 9 September 2016.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time helping us improve the review process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>> Glen
> >>>>
> >>>> Glen de Saint G?ry
> >>>> Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees
> >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
> >>>> *glen at icann.org <mailto:glen at icann.org>*
> >>>> *http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>*
> >>>
> >>> ************************************************
> >>> William J. Drake
> >>> International Fellow & Lecturer
> >>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> >>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> >>> william.drake at uzh.ch
> >>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
> >>>   www.williamdrake.org <http://www.williamdrake.org/>
> >>> ************************************************
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
> >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >
> >
> >
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From pileleji  Fri Sep  2 12:27:06 2016
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 09:27:06 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] GNSO Review Working Group
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Dear Avri,

I totally concur and share your opinion  with you about the two
representative.

Kind Regards

Poncelet



On 2 September 2016 at 04:04, avri doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you notice,
> <https://community.icann.org/display/GRWG/WG+members+and+mailing+list>
> list 6 slots for the CSG and only 2 for each of the other SGs.
>
> Given this, I see no reason why NCSG should not pick its two, and that
> both NCUC and NPOC should not also pick two.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 29-Aug-16 14:08, Klaus Stoll wrote:
> >
> > Dear Amr
> >
> > Thanks for the information, and I fully understand that it is not your
> > decision at all. I just wanted to indicate that it would be good to
> > have a NPOC member involved and that the PC member should take this
> > into consideration
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Klaus
> >
> > On 8/29/2016 2:09 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> >> [Changes Subject Line]
> >>
> >> Hi Klaus,
> >>
> >> I?m not sure I understand your question. If you would clarify, I?d be
> >> grateful. I?m pretty sure I can?t ensure that the two NCSG members
> >> who will be appointed will be members of NPOC, if that?s what you
> >> mean. That?s a decision for the full Policy Committee.
> >>
> >> Noteworthy to mention that there was a call for volunteers for this
> >> WG, where anybody could sign up as participants or observers. The
> >> deadline to do this was August 19th. Maryam posted the announcement
> >> on NCSG-DISCUSS on July 27th
> >> (https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1607&L=
> NCSG-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=115142).
> >>
> >> Currently, there are four NCSG members who have signed up as
> >> participants to this WG:
> >>
> >> 1. Rafik Dammak
> >> 2. Avri Doria
> >> 3. Pascal Bekono
> >> 4. Amr Elsadr
> >>
> >> The PC will have to select NCSG?s members on this WG, either from
> >> within these four, or from outside of them. I?m happy to discuss how
> >> we can do this, and again, this can?t be my decision alone. We should
> >> also pay attention to the fact that this WG will also assume the
> >> mandate of the SCI, if it is disbanded on this week?s Council call,
> >> so that?s something we may want to take into consideration when
> >> making appointments. NPOC has had active members on the SCI in the
> >> past. In fact Rudi has been the SCI Chair for the past year as well
> >> as a member of the GNSO Review Working Party, but he unfortunately
> >> hasn?t signed up for this WG.
> >>
> >> Speaking for myself, I?m happy to continue being a participant on the
> >> WG, and would prefer not to be either the primary or alternate NCSG
> >> member.
> >>
> >> Would be happy to continue this discussion here, but really do think
> >> we should bring it up on our monthly policy call.
> >>
> >> I hope this helped, Klaus.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Amr
> >>
> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM
> >>> <mailto:kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Amr
> >>>
> >>> Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as
> >>> primary and alternate members of the GNSO Review working group.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>> Klaus
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> >>>> Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and
> >>>> alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can
> >>>> include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Amr
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG
> >>>>> <mailto:robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to
> >>>>> serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG).  Here?s the
> >>>>> announcement again:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *From: *Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
> >>>>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
> >>>>>> *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT
> >>>>>> *To: *NCSG List <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >>>>>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>>
> >>>>>> *Cc: *NCSG-Policy <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
> >>>>>> <mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>
> >>>>>> *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process
> >>>>>> Adjustments*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small
> >>>>>> changes, including each coalition will soon have 2
> >>>>>> representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting
> >>>>>> chairs / co-chairs.  Previously CSCG members, including NCSG,
> >>>>>> only had representative per coalition (me).  But beginning this
> >>>>>> September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group.  Details
> >>>>>> are below.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy
> >>>>>> Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Robin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ======================================================
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen
> >>>>>> according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so
> >>>>>> that there is an annual replacement of one representative per
> >>>>>> coalition.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then
> >>>>>> stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for
> >>>>>> further selection.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar
> >>>>>> year. (note: for the initial establishment of member
> >>>>>> representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of
> >>>>>> its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year
> >>>>>> term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new
> >>>>>> procedures being adopted))*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *The duties of members are to*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *CHAIR STRUCTURE*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member
> >>>>>> representatives  for two year terms.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member
> >>>>>> terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs
> >>>>>> are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed
> >>>>>> to representatives from broader civil society are approached to
> >>>>>> take on these tasks. *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> **
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the
> >>>>>> coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement
> >>>>>> representative.*
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
> >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel
> >>>>>> <mariliamaciel at gmail.com <mailto:mariliamaciel at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday.
> >>>>>> M
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania
> >>>>>> <Stefania.Milan at eui.eu <mailto:Stefania.Milan at eui.eu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole
> >>>>>>     day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin
> >>>>>>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> >>>>>>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     I have house guests and may not be available.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     Stephanie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>     Dear PC members,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call
> on
> >>>>>>>>     Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before
> it as
> >>>>>>>>     usual.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only
> >>>>>>>>     time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at
> possible
> >>>>>>>>     timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment,
> but
> >>>>>>>>     if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work
> >>>>>>>>     (some other meetings you will be or know some of our
> councillors
> >>>>>>>>     will be), please let me know ASAP.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>     Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>     _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>     PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>>>>>     PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
> >>>>>>>     http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>>>>>>     <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
> >>>>>>
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From mariliamaciel  Thu Sep  8 12:27:43 2016
From: mariliamaciel (Marilia Maciel)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 11:27:43 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Results for PC deliberation Fwd: Call for expressions
 of interest CSCG and GNSO Review WG
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Dear all,

As I mentioned before, I contacted NCSG volunteers in the GNSO Review WG
and Rafik agreed to be NCSG principal rep with Avri as alternate. I will
communicate this to staff.

I will also forward David's name, selected to the CSCG.

Thanks
Marilia

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone, since there were no views expressed in contrary, I will
> contact the three NCSG volunteers to the GNSO Review WG.
> Thanks
> Marilia
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> As you know, calls were issued on the list asking for volunteers who
>> would be willing to represent NCSG in the: a) Civil Society Coordination
>> Group (CSCG) and b) GNSO Review WG (please see more details in the e-mail
>> forwarded below). The NCSG PC is now expected to make a decision with
>> regards to filling these positions.
>>
>> 1) For the CSCG:
>> We received one SOI, put forward by David Cake.  If there are no
>> objections, I will proceed with forwarding David's name to the CSCG.
>>
>> 2) for the GNSO Review WG
>> We received one SOI, put forward by Avri Doria, to act as alternate NCSG
>> rep on this WG. If there are no objections, Avri will be appointed as our
>> alternate.
>>
>> We still need to appoint a *primary NCSG representative* in this WG.
>> Given that the selection of these names is overdue, I suggest that we
>> consult the other three NCSG members who have volunteered to be part of
>> this WG and ask them if any of them would like to serve as NCSG primary
>> rep. They are:
>> Rafik Dammak
>> Pascal Bekono
>> Amr Elsadr
>>
>> If there is no other suggested approach, I will write them tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Marilia
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 11:53 AM
>> Subject: Call for expressions of interest CSCG and GNSO Review WG
>> To: NCSG List <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu>
>>
>>
>> Dear members of NCSG,
>>
>>
>>
>> Our stakeholder group needs to select representatives for two positions:
>>
>> 1. One representative at the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG)
>>
>> 2. Two members (primary and alternate) to the GNSO Review Working Group
>>
>>
>>
>> This is call for volunteers who would be willing to serve on these
>> positions. Statements of Interest should be sent to the NCSG list until the *4th of
>> September 23:59 UTC*. Please on the subject line: "SOI [your name] CSCG"
>> or "SOI [your name] GNSO review".
>>
>>
>>
>> The selection process will be conducted by the members of the NCSG Policy
>> Committee by means of finding rough consensus. The criteria that will be
>> used to evaluate the candidates is explained in each of the sections below.
>>
>>
>>
>> * CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES*
>>
>>
>>
>> For more info about the job of the CSCG, please do refer to their website
>> <http://internetgov-cs.org/>.
>>
>>
>>
>> The new CSCG Rep will serve for a period of 2 years starting September
>> 2016 (to September 2018) and I will be stepping down from this role next
>> year (in September 2017) after we have elected a new Co-coordinator in
>> replacement of Analia (whose term expires in January 2017).
>>
>>
>>
>> Description:
>>
>> This position will not always require much of your time though it can
>> happen during Nomcoms or working groups. So we need someone who knows a lot
>> about IGF, MAG selection process and understands civil society in the IG
>> area as a whole. We need someone who has been active on the IGC for quite a
>> while and who can speak our positions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Role of Representatives:
>>
>> The duties of members are to:
>>
>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole,
>>
>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required,
>>
>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Statement of Interest (SOI) will have this info:
>>
>> ? Name, declared region of residence, gender and employment
>>
>> ? Reasons for willingness to take on this task (max 200 words)
>>
>> ? Qualifications for this position (max 200 words)
>>
>> ? Statement of availability for the time the position requires (max 200
>> words)
>>
>> ? The nominee?s statement may also include any other information the
>> candidate believes in relevant (max 200 words).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *MEMBERS IN GNSO REVIEW WORKING GROUP*
>>
>>
>>
>> *In Brief*
>>
>>
>>
>> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the
>> Charter
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> of
>> the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This
>> Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO
>> Review recommendations
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf> which
>> were recently adopted
>> <https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2016-06-25-en#2.e> by
>> the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working
>> Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the
>> development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is
>> encouraged to volunteer.
>>
>>
>>
>> *What This Working Group Will Do*
>>
>>
>>
>> Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/gnso-review-charter-11jul16-en.pdf> the
>> GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an
>> implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the
>> implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current
>> state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review
>> recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34)
>> recommendations of the Final Report
>> <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf> of
>> the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding
>> recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for
>> approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board.
>> Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is
>> also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review
>> recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering
>> any new requests by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the
>> GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that
>> have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by
>> the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the
>> Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the
>> subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Timeline and Deliverables
>>
>>
>>
>> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation
>> plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at
>> ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an
>> implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the
>> implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current
>> state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to
>> the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the
>> adoption of this resolution?i.e., December 2016.
>>
>>
>>
>> *How to Join*
>>
>>
>>
>> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary
>> and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In
>> addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join
>> this working group as a participant or observer.  Please note that
>> participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively
>> participate in online discussions.  Observers can follow the group's work
>> on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor
>> participate actively in the calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> NCSG policy committee will conduct a selection of the primary and
>> alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. *Please,
>> include in your statement of interest*:
>>
>> 1.    Knowledge or practical experience with GNSO?s policy development
>> process
>>
>> 2.    Knowledge of GNSO?s operational procedures
>>
>> 3.   Previous experience in other GNSO working groups or in working with
>> other stakeholder groups.
>>
>> 4.   Comment on your time and availability to engage in GNSO review
>> working group.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Further information and preparation*
>>
>>
>>
>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged
>> to review the following materials:
>>
>> GNSO Review Recommendations
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf>
>>
>> Independent Examiner Final Report
>> <https://www.icann.org/zh/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-summary-15sep15-en.pdf>
>>
>> Frequently Asked Questions <https://community.icann.org/x/UBCbAw>
>>
>>
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From maryam.bakoshi  Mon Sep 12 11:41:59 2016
From: maryam.bakoshi (Maryam Bakoshi)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 08:41:59 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] GNSO Council Teleconference Summary Page - wiki
Message-ID: <ADB619E8-3C76-4747-ABE5-5BCAB5A70B5B@icann.org>

Dear all,

I have created a page on the wiki to house GNSO Council Teleconference call summary from NCSG Councilors.

Please kindly review.

https://community.icann.org/x/hAC4Aw


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From avri  Tue Sep 13 14:07:52 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:07:52 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Request for input from the
 GNSO Council regarding the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG
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References: <38BAC4E89FFC2C48AF6119A83CEAF0E401315DC4@ORD2MBX15C.mex05.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <62faceb7-173e-ac44-f951-28cc502804f8@acm.org>


FYI.

Please note that the GNSO Council letter itself asks for further SG & C
views.
If we have one, we may want to say something.

Here are the links provided in the PDF version of the letter for BC and
ALAC comment referenced.

 

Business Constituency feedback:
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/61609264/BC Comments on
Board Letter 20 August
2016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473356029656&api=v2
<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/61609264/BC%20Comments%20on%20Board%20Letter%2020%20August%202016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473356029656&api=v2>

ALAC Comments made in 1 September GNSO Council meeting (beginning on
page 33):
 https://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/transcript-council-01sep16-en.pdf

 



avri

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: Request for input from the GNSO Council
regarding the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG
Date: 	Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:52:01 +0000
From: 	Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>
To: 	gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org <gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>



All,

 

Please find enclosed a letter we received today from the GNSO Council
Chair.  I have reproduced the text below for those not wanting to open
the PDF doc.  The letter asks for our input by *September 25^th * so
that the Council can discuss on its September 29^th call.  This is
obviously not much time, so discussion is encouraged on the list.  I am
also going to ask that each of the Sub-team chairs cover this letter on
their next calls and we will also discuss this on our next full group
call on Monday the 19^th .

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

12 September 2016

 

GNSO COUNCIL REQUEST FOR INPUT REGARDING NEW GTLD SUBSEQUENT PROCEDURES

 

Dear Stakeholder Group, Constituency and new gTLD Subsequent Procedures
Chairs, 

 

On 5 August 2016, the GNSO Council received a letter from the ICANN
Board requesting feedback on the timing of subsequent procedures for new
gTLDs. The GNSO Council is now seeking input from Stakeholder Groups,
Constituencies and the new gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG to help
inform the Council?s response to the Board. The Council anticipates an
initial review of this input during its meeting on 29 September in view
of finalizing its response during the 13 October meeting, so the earlier
your input is received, the better but it should be received no later
than 25 September.

 

In its letter, the Board asked the GNSO Council to provide its
perspectives on the work plan of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP
and the timing of a new application process for gTLDs:

 

The Board is interested in the GNSO?s view of its current work in light
of the existing policy recommendations and related review activities?For
example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it would be
helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the entirety of the
current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed prior to advancing a
new application process under the current policy recommendations. The
Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to provide a firm answer at
this stage of the process as the reviews are still underway and the PDP
is in its initial stages of work, but if any consideration has been
given in relation to whether a future application process could proceed
while policy work continues and be iteratively applied to the process
for allocating new gTLDs, or that a set of critical issues could be
identified to be addressed prior to a new application process, the Board
would welcome that input. 

 

The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time frame
outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points the GNSO
might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support the
various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community. 

 

The Business Constituency has already held discussions about the Board?s
question and shared its views with the Council. In addition, the ALAC
liaison to the GNSO Council gave ALAC input during the Council?s last
meeting. Stakeholder Groups, Constituencies and the new gTLD Subsequent
Procedures PDP WG are encouraged to review this input in formulating
responses within their own groups.

 

The GNSO Council anticipates that this issue will be a topic of
community discussion at ICANN57 in November and therefore seeks to
provide a response to the Board prior to ICANN57. We look forward to
receiving your input.

 

With best regards,

 

Donna Austin, GNSO Vice Chair James Bladel, GNSO Chair Heather Forrest,
GNSO Vice Chair

 

*Jeffrey J. Neuman*

*Senior Vice President *|*Valideus USA***| *Com Laude USA*

1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600

Mclean, VA 22102, United States

E: jeff.neuman at valideus.com <mailto:jeff.neuman at valideus.com>or
jeff.neuman at comlaude.com <mailto:jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>

T: +1.703.635.7514

M: +1.202.549.5079

@Jintlaw

 

 

*From:*Emily Barabas [mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org]
*Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2016 3:27 PM
*Subject:* Request for input from the GNSO Council regarding the New
gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG

 

Dear Jeff and Avri,

 

As you know, the GNSO Council received a letter from the ICANN Board on
5 August requesting feedback on the timing of subsequent procedures for
new gTLDs. The GNSO Council is now seeking input from the New gTLD
Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group, Stakeholder Groups, and
Constituencies to help inform the Council?s response.

 

Please see the attached letter from the GNSO Council with additional
information regarding its request. *Note that the deadline for feedback
is* *25 September*. Steve, Julie, and I look forward discussing how we
can support the Working Group in preparing a response.

 

Kind regards,

Emily

 

*Emily Barabas *| Policy Specialist

*ICANN*| Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers

Email: emily.barabas at icann.org <mailto:emily.barabas at icann.org> | Phone:
+31 (0)6 84507976

 



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From stephanie.perrin  Tue Sep 20 02:10:51 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 19:10:51 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft motion for Council: reject the IAG conflicts with
 law implementation report and start a new pdp to revise the policy
Message-ID: <d021808d-b133-0628-8c16-e792e59f225f@mail.utoronto.ca>

My apologies for the lateness of this draft, I mentioned it earlier 
today on the council skype channel, and we did discuss this issue at the 
last policy meeting.  As I said then, we need to look at this antique 
policy, not revise the trigger.  Trying to get it in in the next hour, 
will submit on my own if there is no support but my impression from the 
last meeting was that noone disagreed with the logic.

Let me know please, I am trying to hit the 23:59 UTC deadline.  Michele 
Neylon and Volker Greimann of the Registrars group have responded 
positively.

Best

Stephanie Perrin

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From kathy  Tue Sep 20 03:54:17 2016
From: kathy (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 20:54:17 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft motion for Council: reject the IAG conflicts
 with law implementation report and start a new pdp to revise the policy
In-Reply-To: <d021808d-b133-0628-8c16-e792e59f225f@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <d021808d-b133-0628-8c16-e792e59f225f@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <cc266f2a-8555-8ecd-95d3-aac86332b582@kathykleiman.com>

Hi Stephanie,

I am not sure where we are on the deadline, but I truly hope you did/do 
send this motion. It is extremely important and timely. Tx you for drafting.

Kathy


On 9/19/2016 7:10 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> My apologies for the lateness of this draft, I mentioned it earlier 
> today on the council skype channel, and we did discuss this issue at 
> the last policy meeting.  As I said then, we need to look at this 
> antique policy, not revise the trigger.  Trying to get it in in the 
> next hour, will submit on my own if there is no support but my 
> impression from the last meeting was that noone disagreed with the logic.
>
> Let me know please, I am trying to hit the 23:59 UTC deadline.  
> Michele Neylon and Volker Greimann of the Registrars group have 
> responded positively.
>
> Best
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
>
>
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From stephanie.perrin  Tue Sep 20 06:07:31 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:07:31 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Draft motion for Council: reject the IAG conflicts
 with law implementation report and start a new pdp to revise the policy
In-Reply-To: <cc266f2a-8555-8ecd-95d3-aac86332b582@kathykleiman.com>
References: <d021808d-b133-0628-8c16-e792e59f225f@mail.utoronto.ca>
	<cc266f2a-8555-8ecd-95d3-aac86332b582@kathykleiman.com>
Message-ID: <bb88cfde-9338-7717-c6f7-914183acd968@mail.utoronto.ca>

I did, and I sent it to the registrars and registries.  I think we will 
get support, and if not we will have started the conversation.

Thanks!!

cheers Steph


On 2016-09-19 20:54, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> I am not sure where we are on the deadline, but I truly hope you 
> did/do send this motion. It is extremely important and timely. Tx you 
> for drafting.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> On 9/19/2016 7:10 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>> My apologies for the lateness of this draft, I mentioned it earlier 
>> today on the council skype channel, and we did discuss this issue at 
>> the last policy meeting.  As I said then, we need to look at this 
>> antique policy, not revise the trigger. Trying to get it in in the 
>> next hour, will submit on my own if there is no support but my 
>> impression from the last meeting was that noone disagreed with the logic.
>>
>> Let me know please, I am trying to hit the 23:59 UTC deadline. 
>> Michele Neylon and Volker Greimann of the Registrars group have 
>> responded positively.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
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From ncsg  Fri Sep 23 17:36:32 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 17:36:32 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] PC meeting in Hyderabad
Message-ID: <20160923143632.GA4604@tarvainen.info>

Dear all,

Hyderabad scheduling has been somewhat difficult and it
seems there's no way to get more than 90 minutes for
our Policy Committee meeting.

If someone thinks this is unacceptable and wants to
join the schedule fight, please let me know.

Otherwise the schedule seems to be coming out OK,
although it's still very much under construction.

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen



From pileleji  Fri Sep 23 19:00:39 2016
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:00:39 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] PC meeting in Hyderabad
In-Reply-To: <20160923143632.GA4604@tarvainen.info>
References: <20160923143632.GA4604@tarvainen.info>
Message-ID: <CAEux40sd=YbbyzhU8pogGu1j=7PxENYemWrKwdH1bq_zN25o8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Tapani,

I think NCSG should make what is available in terms of Time Slot for the
meeting and see how best to fully maximize its use.  I personally have
withdrawn from going to Indian, because the Indian embassy in Senegal and
honorary consul in my "Neck of the Woods" The Gambia  where just been
assholes, so I rather not go to a country where basic treatment of people
is based on color of skin, or creed etc, anyway my own principles. So India
avoided for me.

However I think you will have a good quorum and no matter the time
difference I will definitely join online.  I will like personally a way
forward is started on a new election process.  The idea of NOTA to me is
valid, and NOTA can stand against any candidate individually.  Candidate A
versus NOTA, Candidate B versus NOTA etc, so if a candidate is perceived
and gathers support by majority  that candidate will win NOTA,  because the
candidate has the  fully support from majority, just my thought. A lot of
mathematically equation have been proposed butby the  end of the day, we
just have to have a process that makes a candidate elected based on merit
that's my  1% opinion.  What ever is decided on a new election process I
know we all have learned a thing or two from the last process.

Good luck colleagues as you plan ahead for your trip to Hyderabad.

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 23 September 2016 at 14:36, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Hyderabad scheduling has been somewhat difficult and it
> seems there's no way to get more than 90 minutes for
> our Policy Committee meeting.
>
> If someone thinks this is unacceptable and wants to
> join the schedule fight, please let me know.
>
> Otherwise the schedule seems to be coming out OK,
> although it's still very much under construction.
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>



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From stephanie.perrin  Mon Sep 26 05:53:58 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:53:58 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC -
	Revised timeline
In-Reply-To: <9133f4f6f3384c10be73ead178671274@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
References: <9133f4f6f3384c10be73ead178671274@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>
Message-ID: <47b0e3bb-1aea-1aa8-a943-5b93eb52d754@mail.utoronto.ca>

Reminder!

Stephanie



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Subject: 	[council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC - Revised timeline
Date: 	Sun, 25 Sep 2016 21:44:40 +0000
From: 	Glen de Saint G?ry <Glen at icann.org>
To: 	GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org) <council at gnso.icann.org>



    Dear Councillors,

    We would like to remind you of the revised timeline as adopted in
    Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and that we will be sending
    a call for candidates early in September 2016. We would like to draw
    your attention to the slight adjustment in the timeline which has
    come about as a result of the change in the date of the Council
    meeting at ICANN57 (see:
    http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/meeting-c-schedule-11jul16-en.pdf)

    1.The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency may submit
    the application of its candidate(s), which should include at a
    minimum a link to a completed and current statement of interest as
    well as a brief note explaining why the candidate has applied for
    this role and how the candidate meets the specific requirements *_by
    1 October 2016 at the latest_* to the GNSO Secretariat
    (_gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org)
    <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org%29>_. Candidates will be
    requested to complete an application template.

    2.The GNSO Council Chairs will review the applications received and
    rank these taking into account the skills and experience required as
    outlined in this call for volunteers by *20 October 2016*.

    3.Based on the outcome of the ranking process, the GNSO Council
    Chairs will contact the nr 1 candidate to confirm the selection by
    *20 October 2016*.

    4.GNSO Council Chairs will submit motion for confirmation of GNSO
    Liaison to the GAC to the GNSO Council by *28 October 2016* at the
    latest.

    5.Consideration of motion and approval of candidate by GNSO Council
    during GNSO Council meeting on *7 November 2016*.

    6.Confirmation of candidate to GAC leadership (by *9 November 2016*).

    7.GNSO Liaison to the GAC officially takes up its role (by *10
    November 2016*).

    Please note that the name of applicants will be made public unless
    an applicant specifically states in his/her application that his/her
    name should be kept confidential.


    Thank you.

    Kind regards,

    Glen

    Glen de Saint G?ry
    GNSO Secretariat
    gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
    Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
    http://gnso.icann.org/en/
    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_&d=CwMFAw&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=gvEx8xF7ynrYQ7wShqEr-w&m=fl2NMP8gq7jWkxEFIsTP3aS_fN3wQRAYAyL7Xrvh6U4&s=o6M4FZzjzwvwecnk2inKQ-oeY-tQIGtGYf8wKPpJ4pk&e=>

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From Stefania.Milan  Mon Sep 26 11:40:15 2016
From: Stefania.Milan (Milan, Stefania)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 08:40:15 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] call tomorrow?
Message-ID: <DB3PR05MB5215F92A8BB6DB1DCDE793FF7CD0@DB3PR05MB521.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hello everyone
I don't seem to find anywhere the indication of the time for our call tomorrow. Can someone help me?
Thanks, and have a good beginning of the week!  (sic)
stefania

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From egmorris1  Mon Sep 26 12:03:16 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 05:03:16 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] call tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <DB3PR05MB5215F92A8BB6DB1DCDE793FF7CD0@DB3PR05MB521.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <DB3PR05MB5215F92A8BB6DB1DCDE793FF7CD0@DB3PR05MB521.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <82be017f482d45af9f53767204a7bcb7@toast.net>

Hi Stefi,
  
 I believe it is at 13:00 UTC.
  
 Ed
  
  
  

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Subject: [PC-NCSG] call tomorrow?   
Hello everyone
I don't seem to find anywhere the indication of the time for our call 
tomorrow. Can someone help me?
Thanks, and have a good beginning of the week! (sic)
stefania

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From ncsg  Mon Sep 26 12:16:23 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:16:23 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] call tomorrow?
In-Reply-To: <82be017f482d45af9f53767204a7bcb7@toast.net>
References: <DB3PR05MB5215F92A8BB6DB1DCDE793FF7CD0@DB3PR05MB521.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
	<82be017f482d45af9f53767204a7bcb7@toast.net>
Message-ID: <20160926091623.GA2170@tarvainen.info>

Yes, 1300 UTC. I'm just about to send official notification with
agenda (just waiting for Maryam to create the wiki page).

Besides the standard boilerplate I have now two things in
the agenda:

* GAC liaison
* GNSO bylaws drafting team

Additions welcome, of course.

Tapani

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 05:03:16AM -0400, Edward Morris (egmorris1 at toast.net) wrote:

> Hi Stefi,
>   
>  I believe it is at 13:00 UTC.
>   
>  Ed
>   
>   
>   
> 
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "Milan, Stefania" <Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: "NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: [PC-NCSG] call tomorrow?   
> Hello everyone
> I don't seem to find anywhere the indication of the time for our call 
> tomorrow. Can someone help me?
> Thanks, and have a good beginning of the week! (sic)
> stefania




From avri  Mon Sep 26 18:38:28 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:38:28 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] GAC Liaison
Message-ID: <0db98927-0d39-ec07-9874-3e852c43063a@apc.org>

To the NCSg PC members,

As I mentioned on the NCSG Discuss list in August, I would like to be
considered as the NCSG nominee for the GAC liaison postion.

My GNSO SOI can be found at. 
<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Avri+Doria+SOI >

A standard bio can be found at: < *: https://v.gd/bio_adoria>*

I put myself forward for this role because I think I can help improve
the communications between the GNSO and the GAC. I have felt this was
important goal since the time when I served as Chair of the GNSO Council
and used to make it a point to go and talk to every GAC meeting
reporting on our progress on various policy efforts.  I also felt this
was important when I served on the GAC-GNSO Consultation Group on GAC
Early Engagement in the PDP Process (GAC-GNSO CG).  I would like to be
part of taking the communications further and helping to make sure that
the measures that were developed in the GAC-GNSO CG are well implemented
and can evolve if necessary.

In terms of qualifications: During my time in the GNSO and the GNSO
Council (7 years over 2 terms, both as a NCA and as an elected
representative of NCSG), I have learned to understand GNSO processes,
concerns and sensitivities. During my time with the Internet Governance
Forum (IGF), participation in the delegations of two governments, and in
other internal fora, I  have learned to understand intergovernmental
processes, concerns and sensitivities. I think I can speak in the
language of each organization and that I will be able to explain each
organization's issues to the other.

I also think I have shown a devotion to the multistakeholder model and
have shown my respect and adherence to the bottom up GNSO PDP and would
be able to explain its critical nature to any audience, including the GAC.

Finally, I think that I have the ability to explain issues in a neutral
and complete manner, leaving aside my personal views when the role
required such a posture. This is obviously such a role and I believe my
history shows that I will be faithful to that requirement.

Thanks for considering my candidacy.

Avri Doria



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From ncsg  Tue Sep 27 14:32:28 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:32:28 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Next call in two weeks?
Message-ID: <20160927113228.GC27334@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>

Dear PC members,

After our policy call today, do we want to have another one before
Hyderabad?

There's another council call on October 13th, in two weeks.
We could have a call before it, October 11th, if desired.

Opinions?

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen




From kathy  Tue Sep 27 14:36:04 2016
From: kathy (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 07:36:04 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Next call in two weeks?
In-Reply-To: <20160927113228.GC27334@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>
References: <20160927113228.GC27334@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>
Message-ID: <7438d4e7-83e7-df47-a259-9e472251ac7d@kathykleiman.com>

Tapani, I think this is an excellent idea.

Kathy


On 9/27/2016 7:32 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> Dear PC members,
>
> After our policy call today, do we want to have another one before
> Hyderabad?
>
> There's another council call on October 13th, in two weeks.
> We could have a call before it, October 11th, if desired.
>
> Opinions?
>




From stephanie.perrin  Tue Sep 27 16:41:47 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 09:41:47 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Next call in two weeks?
In-Reply-To: <20160927113228.GC27334@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>
References: <20160927113228.GC27334@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>
Message-ID: <a7088ba6-64ea-f8d1-1312-8d8b42ac6302@mail.utoronto.ca>

we are not ready for Hyderabad in my view.  Lots happening, nothing 
clear yet

Stephanie


On 2016-09-27 07:32, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> Dear PC members,
>
> After our policy call today, do we want to have another one before
> Hyderabad?
>
> There's another council call on October 13th, in two weeks.
> We could have a call before it, October 11th, if desired.
>
> Opinions?
>

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From egmorris1  Tue Sep 27 18:13:37 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:13:37 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
Message-ID: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>

 

Hello fellow PC Members,  

Per our recently concluded call, I would like to formally ask this Policy 
Committee to nominate Avri Doria for the position of GNSO liaison to the 
GAC.   

As noted by many on the call, Avri has the background, knowledge, 
determination and desire to really make this more than a perfunctory role. 
I think she would be a great choice, not only for the NCSG but for the 
entire GNSO.  

We need to get this nomination to the GNSO Secretariat by the end of the 
week. If you support sending Avri's name as a nominee please indicate ASAP. 
 

Thanks,  

Ed Morris 
  

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From stephanie.perrin  Tue Sep 27 18:20:21 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:20:21 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
Message-ID: <6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>

As I have indicated on list and on the call, I think Avri would be an 
excellent candidate.  She has the experience, the skills, and the 
detailed knowledge of GNSO procedures (as well as ICANN procedure 
generally) to do a great job for us.  Also a very neutral NCSG member.

Stephanie


On 2016-09-27 11:13, Edward Morris wrote:
>
> Hello fellow PC Members,
>
> Per our recently concluded call, I would like to formally ask this 
> Policy Committee to nominate Avri Doria for the position of 
> GNSO liaison to the GAC.
>
> As noted by many on the call, Avri has the background, knowledge, 
> determination and desire to really make this more than a 
> perfunctory role. I think she would be a great choice, not only for 
> the NCSG but for the entire GNSO.
>
> We need to get this nomination to the GNSO Secretariat by the end of 
> the week. If you support sending Avri's name as a nominee please 
> indicate ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Morris
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
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From dave  Tue Sep 27 18:22:56 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:22:56 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
	<6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>

I?m very happy to endorse Avri for this position. 

David

> On 27 Sep 2016, at 11:20 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> 
> As I have indicated on list and on the call, I think Avri would be an excellent candidate.  She has the experience, the skills, and the detailed knowledge of GNSO procedures (as well as ICANN procedure generally) to do a great job for us.  Also a very neutral NCSG member.
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> On 2016-09-27 11:13, Edward Morris wrote:
>>  
>> Hello fellow PC Members,
>> 
>> Per our recently concluded call, I would like to formally ask this Policy Committee to nominate Avri Doria for the position of GNSO liaison to the GAC. 
>> 
>> As noted by many on the call, Avri has the background, knowledge, determination and desire to really make this more than a perfunctory role. I think she would be a great choice, not only for the NCSG but for the entire GNSO.
>> 
>> We need to get this nomination to the GNSO Secretariat by the end of the week. If you support sending Avri's name as a nominee please indicate ASAP.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ed Morris
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg <http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg>
> 
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From kathy  Wed Sep 28 18:27:40 2016
From: kathy (Kathy Kleiman)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:27:40 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain Name
	Association
Message-ID: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>

Hi All,  I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am 
concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is 
healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are 
setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to 
be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due 
process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only 
the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and 
all!

What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison 
"hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased, 
one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in 
Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the 
time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present 
thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced 
takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming 
from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther 
from the truth!  It's all private - and unfair.

Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create 
confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate 
multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on 
competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation 
thru the DNS!!)

I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my 
concern?  Should we investigate together further?

Best and tx,

Kathy




From dave  Wed Sep 28 19:56:06 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:56:06 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
	Name Association
In-Reply-To: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>
References: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>
Message-ID: <3833337D-CEF8-434B-BB91-2A557CBAD2C9@davecake.net>

I am certainly concerned about the Healthy Domains Initiative, and think that it is important that we make it clear to the GAC that it does not represent consensus policy. 

I agree with Kathy that monitoring the HDA, and countering misrepresentation of its role, is something we should be doing.

David

> On 28 Sep 2016, at 11:27 PM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,  I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and all!
> 
> What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison "hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased, one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther from the truth!  It's all private - and unfair.
> 
> Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation thru the DNS!!)
> 
> I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my concern?  Should we investigate together further?
> 
> Best and tx,
> 
> Kathy
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg




From egmorris1  Thu Sep 29 02:46:15 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:46:15 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] fw: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC
Message-ID: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>

?Hi everyone, 
  
 ?Just a reminder that if we are going to nominate a candidate for GNSO Council liaison from the NCSG we need to act no later than this Saturday: that means nominate and transmit the nomination to the GNSO Secreteriet. 
  
 So far Avri Doria self nominated on the DISCUSS list, I nominated her on the PC list and that nomination received the support of Stephanie and David. If anyone else would like to support Avri or would like to support and nominate anyone else (multiple nominations from SG's are permitted) please do so ASAP.  
  
 Thanks, 
  
 Ed Morris 
  
  
  
  
  

----------------------------------------
 From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:15 PM
To: "GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org)" <council at gnso.icann.org>
Subject: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC   

Dear All,  

   

As a follow up to the reminder for the revised timeline adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC attached please the call for candidates.  

   

Thank you very much.  

Kind regards.  

   

Glen  

Glen de Saint G?ry  

GNSO Secretariat  

gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org  

http://gnso.icann.org  

   

Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO  

Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages.  

   

     

From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint G?ry
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:45 PM
To: GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org) <council at gnso.icann.org>
Subject: [council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC - Revised timeline 

   

      

  

Dear Councillors,  

   

We would like to remind you of the revised timeline as adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and that we will be sending a call for candidates early in September 2016. We would like to draw your attention to the slight adjustment in the timeline which has come about as a result of the change in the date of the Council meeting at ICANN57 (see:  http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/meeting-c-schedule-11jul16-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org])  

1.       The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency may submit the application of its candidate(s), which should include at a minimum a link to a completed and current statement of interest as well as a brief note explaining why the candidate has applied for this role and how the candidate meets the specific requirements by 1 October 2016 at the latest to the GNSO Secretariat (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). Candidates will be requested to complete an application template.   

2.       The GNSO Council Chairs will review the applications received and rank these taking into account the skills and experience required as outlined in this call for volunteers by 20 October 2016.  

3.       Based on the outcome of the ranking process, the GNSO Council Chairs will contact the nr 1 candidate to confirm the selection by 20 October 2016.  

4.       GNSO Council Chairs will submit motion for confirmation of GNSO Liaison to the GAC to the GNSO Council by 28 October 2016 at the latest.  

5.       Consideration of motion and approval of candidate by GNSO Council during GNSO Council meeting on 7 November 2016.  

6.       Confirmation of candidate to GAC leadership (by 9 November 2016).  

7.       GNSO Liaison to the GAC officially takes up its role (by 10 November 2016).  

   

Please note that the name of applicants will be made public unless an applicant specifically states in his/her application that his/her name should be kept confidential.   

Thank you.  

Kind regards,  

   

Glen  

   

Glen de Saint G?ry
GNSO Secretariat
gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
http://gnso.icann.org/en/  

   

   

  


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From mshears  Thu Sep 29 05:32:57 2016
From: mshears (matthew shears)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:32:57 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] fw: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to
 the GAC
In-Reply-To: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>
References: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>
Message-ID: <556654dd-15f6-e562-ee4d-e6f711788bee@cdt.org>

Thanks Ed for the reminder - I support Avri's nomination.

Matthew


On 29/09/2016 00:46, Edward Morris wrote:
> ?Hi everyone,
> ?Just a reminder that if we are going to nominate a candidate for GNSO 
> Council liaison from the NCSG we need to act no later than *this 
> Saturday*: that means nominate and transmit the nomination to the GNSO 
> Secreteriet.
> So far *Avri Doria* self nominated on the DISCUSS list, I nominated 
> her on the PC list and that nomination received the support of 
> *Stephanie* and *David*. If anyone else would like to support Avri or 
> would like to support and nominate anyone else (multiple nominations 
> from SG's are permitted) please do so ASAP.
> Thanks,
> Ed Morris
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From*: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org>
> *Sent*: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:15 PM
> *To*: "GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org)" 
> <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Subject*: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC
>
> Dear All,
>
> As a follow up to the reminder for the revised timeline adopted in 
> Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC attached please the call for 
> candidates.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Glen
>
> *Glen de Saint G?ry*
>
> GNSO Secretariat
>
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>
> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>
> /Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO/
>
> /Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses 
> <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer 
> pages 
> <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers>./
>
> *From:* owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Glen de Saint G?ry
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:45 PM
> *To:* GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org) <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Subject:* [council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC - Revised timeline
>
>     Dear Councillors,
>
>     We would like to remind you of the revised timeline as adopted in
>     Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and that we will be
>     sending a call for candidates early in September 2016. We would
>     like to draw your attention to the slight adjustment in the
>     timeline which has come about as a result of the change in the
>     date of the Council meeting at ICANN57 (see:
>     http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/meeting-c-schedule-11jul16-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org]
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_meeting-2Dc-2Dschedule-2D11jul16-2Den.pdf&d=DQMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=U4IBJYYYko8geLjSlTyOXbvtmoVER-_lK-PAQ64rKHs&m=OIvncuMgor6RoxmJVrL7T7Y5imML8VAlLDV1gZqSJts&s=mTmiJ_iSvO0rEmNtWnm_7SmOrrYzniVAT61q4qg6MnA&e=>)
>
>     1.The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency may
>     submit the application of its candidate(s), which should include
>     at a minimum a link to a completed and current statement of
>     interest as well as a brief note explaining why the candidate has
>     applied for this role and how the candidate meets the specific
>     requirements *_by 1 October 2016 at the latest_* to the GNSO
>     Secretariat (_gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org)
>     <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org%29>_. Candidates will be
>     requested to complete an application template.
>
>     2.The GNSO Council Chairs will review the applications received
>     and rank these taking into account the skills and experience
>     required as outlined in this call for volunteers by *20 October 2016*.
>
>     3.Based on the outcome of the ranking process, the GNSO Council
>     Chairs will contact the nr 1 candidate to confirm the selection by
>     *20 October 2016*.
>
>     4.GNSO Council Chairs will submit motion for confirmation of GNSO
>     Liaison to the GAC to the GNSO Council by *28 October 2016* at the
>     latest.
>
>     5.Consideration of motion and approval of candidate by GNSO
>     Council during GNSO Council meeting on *7 November 2016*.
>
>     6.Confirmation of candidate to GAC leadership (by *9 November 2016*).
>
>     7.GNSO Liaison to the GAC officially takes up its role (by *10
>     November 2016*).
>
>     Please note that the name of applicants will be made public unless
>     an applicant specifically states in his/her application that
>     his/her name should be kept confidential.
>
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Glen
>
>     Glen de Saint G?ry
>     GNSO Secretariat
>     gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>     Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>     http://gnso.icann.org/en/
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_&d=CwMFAw&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=gvEx8xF7ynrYQ7wShqEr-w&m=fl2NMP8gq7jWkxEFIsTP3aS_fN3wQRAYAyL7Xrvh6U4&s=o6M4FZzjzwvwecnk2inKQ-oeY-tQIGtGYf8wKPpJ4pk&e=>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From dave  Thu Sep 29 06:44:15 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:44:15 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] fw: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to
	the GAC
In-Reply-To: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>
References: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>
Message-ID: <B57DEA51-7F06-4D04-8488-4FDA9EB0B94E@davecake.net>

To make the same point again as I made on the policy call - as someone who has been on the other side of the selection process for this position, I think Avri is a terrific candidate, but I think multiple nominations from SGs are not just permitted, but a good idea. 

David

Sent from my iPad

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 7:46 am, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi everyone,
>  
> ?Just a reminder that if we are going to nominate a candidate for GNSO Council liaison from the NCSG we need to act no later than this Saturday: that means nominate and transmit the nomination to the GNSO Secreteriet.
>  
> So far Avri Doria self nominated on the DISCUSS list, I nominated her on the PC list and that nomination received the support of Stephanie and David. If anyone else would like to support Avri or would like to support and nominate anyone else (multiple nominations from SG's are permitted) please do so ASAP. 
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Ed Morris
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:15 PM
> To: "GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org)" <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC
>  
> Dear All,
> 
>  
> 
> As a follow up to the reminder for the revised timeline adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC attached please the call for candidates.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kind regards.
> 
>  
> 
> Glen
> 
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> 
> GNSO Secretariat
> 
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> 
> http://gnso.icann.org
> 
>  
> 
> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO
> 
> Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint G?ry
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:45 PM
> To: GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org) <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: [council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC - Revised timeline
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Dear Councillors,
> 
>  
> 
> We would like to remind you of the revised timeline as adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and that we will be sending a call for candidates early in September 2016. We would like to draw your attention to the slight adjustment in the timeline which has come about as a result of the change in the date of the Council meeting at ICANN57 (see: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/meeting-c-schedule-11jul16-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org])
> 
> 1.       The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency may submit the application of its candidate(s), which should include at a minimum a link to a completed and current statement of interest as well as a brief note explaining why the candidate has applied for this role and how the candidate meets the specific requirements by 1 October 2016 at the latest to the GNSO Secretariat (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org). Candidates will be requested to complete an application template.
> 
> 2.       The GNSO Council Chairs will review the applications received and rank these taking into account the skills and experience required as outlined in this call for volunteers by 20 October 2016.
> 
> 3.       Based on the outcome of the ranking process, the GNSO Council Chairs will contact the nr 1 candidate to confirm the selection by 20 October 2016.
> 
> 4.       GNSO Council Chairs will submit motion for confirmation of GNSO Liaison to the GAC to the GNSO Council by 28 October 2016 at the latest.
> 
> 5.       Consideration of motion and approval of candidate by GNSO Council during GNSO Council meeting on 7 November 2016.
> 
> 6.       Confirmation of candidate to GAC leadership (by 9 November 2016).
> 
> 7.       GNSO Liaison to the GAC officially takes up its role (by 10 November 2016).
> 
>  
> 
> Please note that the name of applicants will be made public unless an applicant specifically states in his/her application that his/her name should be kept confidential.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Glen
> 
>  
> 
> Glen de Saint G?ry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> <GNSO Liaison to the GAC - call for candidates Updated 12 July 2016vF.doc>
> _______________________________________________
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> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
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From kdrstoll  Thu Sep 29 09:08:34 2016
From: kdrstoll (Klaus Stoll)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 02:08:34 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
 Name Association
In-Reply-To: <3833337D-CEF8-434B-BB91-2A557CBAD2C9@davecake.net>
References: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>
	<3833337D-CEF8-434B-BB91-2A557CBAD2C9@davecake.net>
Message-ID: <66e162f6-dae4-37c3-34b1-26f6917d26cd@gmail.com>

Hi,

What would be the best way to inform the GAC that this is not based on 
any ICANN policy making process?. They need to know. Can the NCSG PC 
draft and send a letter to the GAC?

Thanks Kathy for the initiative.

Klaus



On 9/28/2016 12:56 PM, David Cake wrote:
> I am certainly concerned about the Healthy Domains Initiative, and think that it is important that we make it clear to the GAC that it does not represent consensus policy.
>
> I agree with Kathy that monitoring the HDA, and countering misrepresentation of its role, is something we should be doing.
>
> David
>
>> On 28 Sep 2016, at 11:27 PM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,  I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and all!
>>
>> What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison "hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased, one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther from the truth!  It's all private - and unfair.
>>
>> Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation thru the DNS!!)
>>
>> I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my concern?  Should we investigate together further?
>>
>> Best and tx,
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>




From dave  Thu Sep 29 10:40:51 2016
From: dave (David Cake)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:40:51 +0800
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
	Name Association
In-Reply-To: <66e162f6-dae4-37c3-34b1-26f6917d26cd@gmail.com>
References: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>
	<3833337D-CEF8-434B-BB91-2A557CBAD2C9@davecake.net>
	<66e162f6-dae4-37c3-34b1-26f6917d26cd@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2D3339C3-0619-44CD-821E-5BF356DEC06B@davecake.net>

A letter might be useful. It is also worth someone making a point of saying so in person at the GAC/GNSO meeting in Hyderabad.

David

> On 29 Sep 2016, at 2:08 PM, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What would be the best way to inform the GAC that this is not based on any ICANN policy making process?. They need to know. Can the NCSG PC draft and send a letter to the GAC?
> 
> Thanks Kathy for the initiative.
> 
> Klaus
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/28/2016 12:56 PM, David Cake wrote:
>> I am certainly concerned about the Healthy Domains Initiative, and think that it is important that we make it clear to the GAC that it does not represent consensus policy.
>> 
>> I agree with Kathy that monitoring the HDA, and countering misrepresentation of its role, is something we should be doing.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>>> On 28 Sep 2016, at 11:27 PM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,  I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and all!
>>> 
>>> What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison "hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased, one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther from the truth!  It's all private - and unfair.
>>> 
>>> Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation thru the DNS!!)
>>> 
>>> I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my concern?  Should we investigate together further?
>>> 
>>> Best and tx,
>>> 
>>> Kathy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg




From ncsg  Thu Sep 29 11:22:03 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:22:03 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: URGENT: Proposed EC statement on transition and
	ICANN reforms
Message-ID: <20160929082203.GA16068@tehanu.it.jyu.fi>

See below. Opinions, would it be better to sign the letter as NCSG
rather than having just NCUC do it?

Tapani

----- Forwarded message from "Mueller, Milton L" <milton at gatech.edu> -----

Dear EC members
We have learned this evening that the IANA transition will not be blocked by the US Congress.
As an immediate measure, I'd like for the NCUC EC to send the statement below to the ICANN board. I have copied our GNSO Councilors on this because I think they could help push this agenda.
The words below may not be perfect but please let's not get mired in word-smithing, we need to get this statement out quickly. If there are any significant errors or omissions fix them and send an amended version right out, otherwise just express your support (or lack of it).

--MM

===


The Noncommercial Users Constituency (NCUC) Executive Committee (EC) was gratified to hear that the IANA transition will not be blocked by the U.S. Congress. We congratulate the board and the entire multistakeholder community on this news. Now that the contract with NTIA is sure to expire on September 30, the NCUC EC asks that the ICANN board immediately file and execute any and all procedures needed to implement the new bylaws, which put into place critical accountability reforms. We see quick action on this matter as a confidence-building measure and a signal of good faith to the global stakeholder community. We see delay any in taking those steps as raising risks to the successful completion of the transition. We hope the board and ICANN's legal staff share these concerns and act accordingly.

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From t.tropina  Thu Sep 29 13:24:27 2016
From: t.tropina (Dr. Tatiana Tropina)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:24:27 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
	<6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>
	<82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
Message-ID: <f63d22bc-cfd9-c180-21cc-a30e7a19d787@mpicc.de>

+ 1 to endorsing Avri.

Cheers

Tanya


On 27/09/16 16:22, David Cake wrote:
> I?m very happy to endorse Avri for this position. 
>
> David
>
>> On 27 Sep 2016, at 11:20 PM, Stephanie Perrin
>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> As I have indicated on list and on the call, I think Avri would be an
>> excellent candidate.  She has the experience, the skills, and the
>> detailed knowledge of GNSO procedures (as well as ICANN procedure
>> generally) to do a great job for us.  Also a very neutral NCSG member.
>>
>> Stephanie
>>
>>
>> On 2016-09-27 11:13, Edward Morris wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hello fellow PC Members,
>>>
>>> Per our recently concluded call, I would like to formally ask this
>>> Policy Committee to nominate Avri Doria for the position of
>>> GNSO liaison to the GAC. 
>>>
>>> As noted by many on the call, Avri has the background, knowledge,
>>> determination and desire to really make this more than a
>>> perfunctory role. I think she would be a great choice, not only for
>>> the NCSG but for the entire GNSO.
>>>
>>> We need to get this nomination to the GNSO Secretariat by the end of
>>> the week. If you support sending Avri's name as a nominee please
>>> indicate ASAP.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ed Morris
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>
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From pileleji  Thu Sep 29 13:26:59 2016
From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:26:59 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <f63d22bc-cfd9-c180-21cc-a30e7a19d787@mpicc.de>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
	<6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>
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Concurred Tapani,

Forgot to do so, I endorse Avri wholeheartedly for this position ++1

Poncelet

On 29 September 2016 at 10:24, Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de>
wrote:

> + 1 to endorsing Avri.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tanya
>
> On 27/09/16 16:22, David Cake wrote:
>
> I?m very happy to endorse Avri for this position.
>
> David
>
> On 27 Sep 2016, at 11:20 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> As I have indicated on list and on the call, I think Avri would be an
> excellent candidate.  She has the experience, the skills, and the detailed
> knowledge of GNSO procedures (as well as ICANN procedure generally) to do a
> great job for us.  Also a very neutral NCSG member.
>
> Stephanie
>
> On 2016-09-27 11:13, Edward Morris wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello fellow PC Members,
>
> Per our recently concluded call, I would like to formally ask this Policy
> Committee to nominate Avri Doria for the position of GNSO liaison to the
> GAC.
>
> As noted by many on the call, Avri has the background, knowledge,
> determination and desire to really make this more than a perfunctory role.
> I think she would be a great choice, not only for the NCSG but for the
> entire GNSO.
>
> We need to get this nomination to the GNSO Secretariat by the end of the
> week. If you support sending Avri's name as a nominee please indicate ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Morris
>
>
>
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From stephanie.perrin  Thu Sep 29 16:01:08 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:01:08 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
 Name Association
In-Reply-To: <2D3339C3-0619-44CD-821E-5BF356DEC06B@davecake.net>
References: <c751f2a2-7e77-053b-6b51-fc5a9bac2a6d@kathykleiman.com>
	<3833337D-CEF8-434B-BB91-2A557CBAD2C9@davecake.net>
	<66e162f6-dae4-37c3-34b1-26f6917d26cd@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <fb51a060-d9d1-7dec-a665-558d86ab09bb@mail.utoronto.ca>

What about raising concerns on COuncil, under AOB, so that Mason can 
register it and deliver a message to the GAC? (or leadership team do it)

SP
On 2016-09-29 03:40, David Cake wrote:
> A letter might be useful. It is also worth someone making a point of saying so in person at the GAC/GNSO meeting in Hyderabad.
>
> David
>
>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 2:08 PM, Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What would be the best way to inform the GAC that this is not based on any ICANN policy making process?. They need to know. Can the NCSG PC draft and send a letter to the GAC?
>>
>> Thanks Kathy for the initiative.
>>
>> Klaus
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/28/2016 12:56 PM, David Cake wrote:
>>> I am certainly concerned about the Healthy Domains Initiative, and think that it is important that we make it clear to the GAC that it does not represent consensus policy.
>>>
>>> I agree with Kathy that monitoring the HDA, and countering misrepresentation of its role, is something we should be doing.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>> On 28 Sep 2016, at 11:27 PM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,  I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and all!
>>>>
>>>> What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison "hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased, one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther from the truth!  It's all private - and unfair.
>>>>
>>>> Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation thru the DNS!!)
>>>>
>>>> I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my concern?  Should we investigate together further?
>>>>
>>>> Best and tx,
>>>>
>>>> Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
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From egmorris1  Thu Sep 29 16:19:42 2016
From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:19:42 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
	Name Association
Message-ID: <e28ecfb9be5f4d29ab29f095c1e86282@toast.net>

Hi Kathy,
  
 Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
  
 There are a few things that come to mind, both in terms of setting the 
record straight for past actions and planning for the future: 
  
  
 1. I am concerned at the possibility that a GNSO Council liaison would 
seemingly pass off a private initiative as a work of the BUMP. Do you know 
if there is a transcript or recording available of the session you write?  
There are obviously degrees of culpability for such behaviour but if it was 
blatant and indisputable we may want to to take this before Council for an 
explanation and action. As the charge is somewhat serious I'd like to have 
a transcript or something we can refer to so maybe the October 13the 
meeting might be the time to do it. 
  
 2. We need to speak out on this. If the Board has the impression that 
"Healthy Domain" is anything but a scary private initiative by a 
corporation that is not known for completely above board behaviour we need 
to set it straight. Donuts agreement with the MPAA is dangerous for a whole 
bunch of reasons. How about setting up a NCSG WG to look at this and 
perhaps charge it with coming up with a resolution on the matter we could 
then send to the Board? 
  
 Thanks for alerting us to this Kathy. 
  
 Ed 
  
  
 Sent from my iPhone 
  
  

----------------------------------------
 From: "Kathy Kleiman" <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:30 PM
To: "NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain Name 
Association   
Hi All, I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am
concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is
healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are
setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to
be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due
process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only
the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and
all!

What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison
"hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased,
one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in
Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the
time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present
thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced
takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming
from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther
from the truth! It's all private - and unfair.

Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create
confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate
multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on
competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation
thru the DNS!!)

I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my
concern? Should we investigate together further?

Best and tx,

Kathy

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From stephanie.perrin  Thu Sep 29 16:29:56 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:29:56 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the Domain
 Name Association
In-Reply-To: <e28ecfb9be5f4d29ab29f095c1e86282@toast.net>
References: <e28ecfb9be5f4d29ab29f095c1e86282@toast.net>
Message-ID: <939ba245-2dba-4a7a-5941-9abe6d7b2bc4@mail.utoronto.ca>

I think this is a good idea, and I would suggest that perhaps we need to 
request a debrief on his presentation from Mason.  This seems to be an 
abuse of the GAC liaison position, although I am aware that my views on 
conflicts of interest are somewhat stricter than those of many in the 
NCSG.  A trivial matter, surely, for someone else to have presented to 
the GAC, to avoid any inference that the GNSO endorses this.  Let us 
remember that english in not the first language of many on the GAC.

I would love to have a link if you have it Kathy, as it would be good to 
listen before leaping on this...

Stephanie


On 2016-09-29 09:19, Edward Morris wrote:
> Hi Kathy,
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
> There are a few things that come to mind, both in terms of setting the 
> record straight for past actions and planning for the future:
> 1. I am concerned at the possibility that a GNSO Council liaison would 
> seemingly pass off a private initiative as a work of the BUMP. Do you 
> know if there is a transcript or recording available of the session 
> you write?  There are obviously degrees of culpability for such 
> behaviour but if it was blatant and indisputable we may want to to 
> take this before Council for an explanation and action. As the charge 
> is somewhat serious I'd like to have a transcript or something we can 
> refer to so maybe the October 13the meeting might be the time to do it.
> 2. We need to speak out on this. If the Board has the impression that 
> "Healthy Domain" is anything but a scary private initiative by a 
> corporation that is not known for completely above board behaviour we 
> need to set it straight. Donuts agreement with the MPAA is dangerous 
> for a whole bunch of reasons. How about setting up a NCSG WG to look 
> at this and perhaps charge it with coming up with a resolution on the 
> matter we could then send to the Board?
> Thanks for alerting us to this Kathy.
> Ed
> Sent from my iPhone
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From*: "Kathy Kleiman" <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> *Sent*: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:30 PM
> *To*: "NCSG-Policy" <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> *Subject*: [PC-NCSG] Donuts and private copyright policies of the 
> Domain Name Association
> Hi All, I have an issue to raise with the Policy Committee. I am
> concerned about Donuts' "Healthy Domain Initiative." I don't think it is
> healthy at all. Donuts and their private Domain Name Association are
> setting up "best practices" that allow the Motion Picture Association to
> be a "trusted notifier" of copyright infringement. Then, without due
> process or any real rights whatsoever, Donuts will take down not only
> the content, but the whole domain name - websites, listservs, emails and
> all!
>
> What concerns me to also is that Mason Cole misused his GNSO-GAC Liaison
> "hat" to present the Domain Name Association's private, biased,
> one-sided, and deeply unfair copyright initiatives to the GAC in
> Helsinki. I listened closely to each moment of his presentation. By the
> time he finished, I am very certain that every GAC member present
> thought that the Healthy Domains Initiative (and its unfair, unbalanced
> takedown of content through takedown of the domain names) was coming
> from ICANN's Multistakeholder process -- when nothing could be farther
> from the truth! It's all private - and unfair.
>
> Donuts/ DNA's "Healthy Domains Initiative" is also titled to create
> confusion with ICANN's gTLD Marketplace Health Index -- a legitimate
> multistakeholder efforts working on measurements for gTLDs on
> competition, etc. (and definitely not developing copyright regulation
> thru the DNS!!)
>
> I thought I would throw this issue out for you -- do you share my
> concern? Should we investigate together further?
>
> Best and tx,
>
> Kathy
>
>
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From wjdrake  Thu Sep 29 20:20:00 2016
From: wjdrake (William Drake)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:20:00 +0200
Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC
In-Reply-To: <556654dd-15f6-e562-ee4d-e6f711788bee@cdt.org>
References: <71dd2a9dabf442f692135baf4a2565df@toast.net>
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still +1 from the peanut gallery

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 04:32, matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ed for the reminder - I support Avri's nomination.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On 29/09/2016 00:46, Edward Morris wrote:
>> ?Hi everyone,
>>  
>> ?Just a reminder that if we are going to nominate a candidate for GNSO Council liaison from the NCSG we need to act no later than this Saturday: that means nominate and transmit the nomination to the GNSO Secreteriet.
>>  
>> So far Avri Doria self nominated on the DISCUSS list, I nominated her on the PC list and that nomination received the support of Stephanie and David. If anyone else would like to support Avri or would like to support and nominate anyone else (multiple nominations from SG's are permitted) please do so ASAP. 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Ed Morris
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:15 PM
>> To: "GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>)" <council at gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>> Subject: [council] Call for candidates: GNSO Liaison to the GAC
>>  
>> Dear All,
>>  
>> As a follow up to the reminder for the revised timeline adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC attached please the call for candidates.
>>  
>> Thank you very much.
>> Kind regards.
>>  
>> Glen
>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>> GNSO Secretariat
>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>>  
>> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO
>> Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses <http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages <http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm#newcomers>.
>>  
>> ? <>
>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint G?ry
>> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:45 PM
>> To: GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>) <council at gnso.icann.org> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>> Subject: [council] REMINDER: GNSO Liaison to the GAC - Revised timeline
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Dear Councillors,
>>  
>> We would like to remind you of the revised timeline as adopted in Helsinki for the GNSO Liaison to the GAC and that we will be sending a call for candidates early in September 2016. We would like to draw your attention to the slight adjustment in the timeline which has come about as a result of the change in the date of the Council meeting at ICANN57 (see: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/meeting-c-schedule-11jul16-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org] <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_meeting-2Dc-2Dschedule-2D11jul16-2Den.pdf&d=DQMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=U4IBJYYYko8geLjSlTyOXbvtmoVER-_lK-PAQ64rKHs&m=OIvncuMgor6RoxmJVrL7T7Y5imML8VAlLDV1gZqSJts&s=mTmiJ_iSvO0rEmNtWnm_7SmOrrYzniVAT61q4qg6MnA&e=>)
>> 
>> 1.       The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency may submit the application of its candidate(s), which should include at a minimum a link to a completed and current statement of interest as well as a brief note explaining why the candidate has applied for this role and how the candidate meets the specific requirements by 1 October 2016 at the latest to the GNSO Secretariat (gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org) <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org%29>. Candidates will be requested to complete an application template. 
>> 2.       The GNSO Council Chairs will review the applications received and rank these taking into account the skills and experience required as outlined in this call for volunteers by 20 October 2016.
>> 3.       Based on the outcome of the ranking process, the GNSO Council Chairs will contact the nr 1 candidate to confirm the selection by 20 October 2016.
>> 4.       GNSO Council Chairs will submit motion for confirmation of GNSO Liaison to the GAC to the GNSO Council by 28 October 2016 at the latest.
>> 5.       Consideration of motion and approval of candidate by GNSO Council during GNSO Council meeting on 7 November 2016.
>> 6.       Confirmation of candidate to GAC leadership (by 9 November 2016).
>> 7.       GNSO Liaison to the GAC officially takes up its role (by 10 November 2016).
>>  
>> Please note that the name of applicants will be made public unless an applicant specifically states in his/her application that his/her name should be kept confidential. 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Glen
>>  
>> Glen de Saint G?ry
>> GNSO Secretariat
>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_&d=CwMFAw&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=gvEx8xF7ynrYQ7wShqEr-w&m=fl2NMP8gq7jWkxEFIsTP3aS_fN3wQRAYAyL7Xrvh6U4&s=o6M4FZzjzwvwecnk2inKQ-oeY-tQIGtGYf8wKPpJ4pk&e=>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
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From avri  Fri Sep 30 23:05:13 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:05:13 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
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hi,

I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.

I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
nomination in, if you are going to put one in.

Sorry to be a nag about this.

thanks
avri


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From stephanie.perrin  Fri Sep 30 23:10:36 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:10:36 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
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Right.  So if noone else is going to take the lead, I would happily send 
your name in, in response to the last call from Glen.  Any idea what we 
need to send with it, just the name or the SOI etc. ( I suspect the 
latter but will check)



On 2016-09-30 16:05, avri doria wrote:
> hi,
>
> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
>
> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
>
> Sorry to be a nag about this.
>
> thanks
> avri
>
>
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From mshears  Fri Sep 30 23:16:25 2016
From: mshears (matthew shears)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 21:16:25 +0100
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <f115b3fc-8417-2384-c2ca-c22d9f2ba41f@mail.utoronto.ca>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
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	<82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
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Sorry Avri - totally not thinking straight - who do we have to send this to?


On 30/09/2016 21:10, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> Right.  So if noone else is going to take the lead, I would happily 
> send your name in, in response to the last call from Glen.  Any idea 
> what we need to send with it, just the name or the SOI etc. ( I 
> suspect the latter but will check)
>
>
>
> On 2016-09-30 16:05, avri doria wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
>>
>> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
>> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
>>
>> Sorry to be a nag about this.
>>
>> thanks
>> avri
>>
>>
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From stephanie.perrin  Fri Sep 30 23:21:24 2016
From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:21:24 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <31fea077-e1db-7efc-78c5-25d358fc8a0b@cdt.org>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
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Has to go to Glen for council chairs (james heather donna)

and the form has to be filled out with statement letter....I know Avri 
sent all that to us, but I cant find it....

steph


On 2016-09-30 16:16, matthew shears wrote:
>
> Sorry Avri - totally not thinking straight - who do we have to send 
> this to?
>
>
> On 30/09/2016 21:10, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>> Right.  So if noone else is going to take the lead, I would happily 
>> send your name in, in response to the last call from Glen.  Any idea 
>> what we need to send with it, just the name or the SOI etc. ( I 
>> suspect the latter but will check)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-09-30 16:05, avri doria wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
>>>
>>> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
>>> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a nag about this.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>
>>
>>
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From ncsg  Fri Sep 30 23:36:07 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 23:36:07 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <8eb71eaf-63e1-1260-7973-7f10387ec03d@apc.org>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
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	<82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
	<f63d22bc-cfd9-c180-21cc-a30e7a19d787@mpicc.de>
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	<8eb71eaf-63e1-1260-7973-7f10387ec03d@apc.org>
Message-ID: <20160930203607.GA23844@tarvainen.info>

Yes. We clearly have rough consensus of PC behind you, indeed I've
seen no opposing voices, and as the nominations were supposed to come
from "The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency",
I guess I can do it just as well as PC Chair could.

I will submit Avri's application to to GNSO secretariat without
further delay.

Tapani


On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 04:05:13PM -0400, avri doria (avri at apc.org) wrote:

> 
> hi,
> 
> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
> 
> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
> 
> Sorry to be a nag about this.
> 
> thanks
> avri



From ncsg  Fri Sep 30 23:46:30 2016
From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 23:46:30 +0300
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <20160930203607.GA23844@tarvainen.info>
References: <ad20350b785246f7b2e88f3b1a48fd6d@toast.net>
	<6663d986-2403-78e9-3110-6c1b26eee230@mail.utoronto.ca>
	<82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
	<f63d22bc-cfd9-c180-21cc-a30e7a19d787@mpicc.de>
	<CAEux40s9OeX5Hi+67TXfnBZ7cFXFM3VD5scrASwseM-LGwCLCw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20160930204630.GC23844@tarvainen.info>

Done. (I did have Avri's statement as well as Glen's instructions
at hand, so I think I managed to do it properly.)

Tapani

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:36:07PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen (ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote:

> Yes. We clearly have rough consensus of PC behind you, indeed I've
> seen no opposing voices, and as the nominations were supposed to come
> from "The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency",
> I guess I can do it just as well as PC Chair could.
> 
> I will submit Avri's application to to GNSO secretariat without
> further delay.
> 
> Tapani
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 04:05:13PM -0400, avri doria (avri at apc.org) wrote:
> 
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
> > 
> > I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
> > nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
> > 
> > Sorry to be a nag about this.
> > 
> > thanks
> > avri



From Stefania.Milan  Fri Sep 30 23:46:52 2016
From: Stefania.Milan (Milan, Stefania)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 20:46:52 +0000
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
In-Reply-To: <20160930203607.GA23844@tarvainen.info>
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	<82BB2FC0-3A41-4BA7-A087-BA1C0CBC99DE@davecake.net>
	<f63d22bc-cfd9-c180-21cc-a30e7a19d787@mpicc.de>
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	<8eb71eaf-63e1-1260-7973-7f10387ec03d@apc.org>,
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Message-ID: <19755D02-B576-4E29-A35C-05FC81822341@EUI.eu>

i support Avri too, we would be v lucky to have you...but I think I said this earlier as well... Worty repeating, though ;)

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> Il giorno 30 set 2016, alle ore 22:36, Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> ha scritto:
>
> Yes. We clearly have rough consensus of PC behind you, indeed I've
> seen no opposing voices, and as the nominations were supposed to come
> from "The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency",
> I guess I can do it just as well as PC Chair could.
>
> I will submit Avri's application to to GNSO secretariat without
> further delay.
>
> Tapani
>
>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 04:05:13PM -0400, avri doria (avri at apc.org) wrote:
>>
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
>>
>> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
>> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
>>
>> Sorry to be a nag about this.
>>
>> thanks
>> avri
>
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From avri  Fri Sep 30 23:55:40 2016
From: avri (avri doria)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:55:40 -0400
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Nomination for GAC Liasion
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Thanks Tapani

Thanks y'all


avri


On 30-Sep-16 16:46, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> Done. (I did have Avri's statement as well as Glen's instructions
> at hand, so I think I managed to do it properly.)
>
> Tapani
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:36:07PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen (ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote:
>
>> Yes. We clearly have rough consensus of PC behind you, indeed I've
>> seen no opposing voices, and as the nominations were supposed to come
>> from "The leadership of each Stakeholder Group / Constituency",
>> I guess I can do it just as well as PC Chair could.
>>
>> I will submit Avri's application to to GNSO secretariat without
>> further delay.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 04:05:13PM -0400, avri doria (avri at apc.org) wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I want to thank the people, 6 of you think, who have endorsed my nomination.
>>>
>>> I also want to remind you that today is sort of the last day to get a
>>> nomination in, if you are going to put one in.
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a nag about this.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> avri
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