[PC-NCSG] Vice Chair elections

[Stephanie Perrin]

I believe it will politicize the NCAs even more than they already are. 
Yes it is unfortunate that selecting option 1 puts pressure on the chair 
and the other vice chair....but it does not trouble me that they will be 
putting pressure on our house to get its act together.

SP


On 2016-11-06 21:12, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
> One additional point here I forgot to mention: in option 2
> there's the NCA clause, so if CSG tries to play dirty we
> could invoke that and have the NCA as VC until they give up.
>
> Of course some future NCA might be disastrous but still
> I don't see option 2 being any better for CSG than for us.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Nov 06 14:46, Tapani Tarvainen (ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info) wrote:
>
>> Hi Avri,
>>
>> Your point is good, but the situation would be reverse in the
>> next round - in the long term it'd balance out.
>>
>> And I really don't think CSG would reject our candidate simply
>> because it'd give them "half VC" ever after.
>>
>> Tapani
>>
>>
>> On Nov 06 14:30, avri doria (avri at apc.org) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you go with option 1, you can assume that there will be no v-chair in
>>> after Heather completes her term.  Whereas if you go with option 2 you
>>> can assume that there will be alternating short term v-chairs, which
>>> means they would get every other temp slot - thus to their advantage.
>>>
>>> I recommend option 1.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06-Nov-16 14:19, matthew shears wrote:
>>>> so... I don't like inconsistencies from meeting to meeting and would
>>>> rather have pressure of no NCPH VC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/11/2016 08:45, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
>>>>> FYI: CSG accepts whichever of the two alternatives for step 12 we
>>>>> want. If we can agree on it that is. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> To recap, the choices were like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> "
>>>>> 12. If no agreement is reached in time for a council meeting,
>>>>>
>>>>> [there will be no NCPH Vice Chair in that meeting]
>>>>>
>>>>> [the non-incumbent SG nominates VC candidate for that meeting only,
>>>>> the other SG may only reject the candidate in favour of the NCA;
>>>>> should the situation reoccur, the nomination would alternate
>>>>> between SGs from meeting to meeting]
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from tonyarholmes
>>>>> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Tapani
>>>>>
>>>>> First, thanks for the constructive discussion during this morning's NCPH
>>>>> meeting. Within the CSG we have since discussed how best to progress the
>>>>> remaining unresolved issue on point 12 and reach conclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The CSG would therefore like to propose that  the NCSG selects its
>>>>> preferred
>>>>> approach on Point 12 and we would be willing to concur with that choice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please let us know your decision.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
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