[PC-NCSG] PC-NCSG mail list transparency
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin
Tue Mar 22 16:32:37 EET 2016
I think bashing the org and the Ombuddy should stop. I think we should
distance ourselves from that bashing. I do not approve of breaking the
rules of the process, notably the duty of confidentiality, for the
purpose of making a splash in the public forum.
These are totally separate from the issues of needing a policy. Sure we
need a policy. We also need a privacy policy (which would have been
abbrogated in this instance).
My 2 cents.
Cheers SP
On 2016-03-22 8:29, William Drake wrote:
> Hi Kathy
>
> I was going to say "I?m not sure what you mean by private not for
> redistribution? since this is a publicly archived list, but then I
> remembered?it?s not all that publicly accessible. Google didn?t find
> NCSG-PC much less the list five pages in, it seems the best technique
> is to log into Confluence, and navigate through NCSG menus to
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Email+Discussion+Archive...we
> might want to consider this at some point in the context of SO/AC
> accountability/transparency. Just a thought.
>
> On the event in question, there are obviously a lot of issues and
> views about them. I understand the NCUC EC intends to say
> something?personally I don?t know how deeply we want to get into
> commenting on the incident and the things she and others have said
> about it. Obviously there should be a policy. As I mentioned
> elsewhere it?s not clear other entities holding lots of meetings with
> delegates and mixed business/receptions, such as the UN, are better
> than ICANN, which makes me a bit unconformable with bashing the org
> and staff. So hopefully as this evolves we get the tone as well as
> the facts right.
>
> Bill
> _
> _
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 13:02, Kathy Kleiman <Kathy at kathykleiman.com
>> <mailto:Kathy at kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
>>
>> _private__
>> __not for redistribution__
>> _
>> Hi All,
>> Within the confines of this group, I wanted to share a concern about
>> the statement Padmini posted on Friday. She says she was discouraged
>> from speaking about her experiences, but my understanding is that was
>> not the case.
>>
>> Padmini wanted to speak out at the first Public Forum on Monday
>> afternoon without preparation for the presentation. Four independent
>> ICANN leaders -- two women and two men -- arrived at the same advice.
>> That this first Public Forum of ICANN, on the opening day of the
>> meeting, was not the right time and place. Everyone was focused on
>> issues of accountability and transition issues. Further, the ICANN
>> Board, would be caught offguard and perhaps continue the pattern of
>> "inappropriate responses" (as it was already established that few in
>> ICANN were trained in what she considered appropriate responses).
>> Such a presentation, in that place, at that moment in time, and
>> without preparation, would likely compound the problem, not reduce
>> it. That was the advice.
>>
>> When the Board raised the Diversity question to the NCSG (the next
>> day), I quickly contacted Padmini to let her know that there was a
>> good moment for the issues she wanted to raise coming up -- with the
>> audience she wanted to raise it with. I offered to assist with the
>> presentation. Several people from the group above worked with her on
>> the presentation. At least two people from the group above
>> independently notified the Board of the sensitive issues about to be
>> raised. She gave a good presentation of the issues before the Board
>> in a public place at a proper time; they responded appropriately.
>>
>> That was the advice - matching the speech to an appropriate time and
>> place.
>>
>> _private__
>> __not for redistribution__
>> _
>>
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