[PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team)

Wed Aug 3 16:38:06 EEST 2016

Hi everybody,

 Thanks Amr for picking up on this.

 Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA.

 Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience.

 Thanks,

 Ed

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 From: "Amr Elsadr" <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:23 PM
To: "Milan, Stefania" <Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu>
Cc: "pc-ncsg" <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team)   
Hi,

If we do proceed as I suggest we do, then I would also support Tapani being the third NCSG appointee.

Karel is also worthy of consideration. For those of you who may not recall, we appointed Karel to the SCI as an NCSG rep there a while back. His participation on the SCI has been pretty impressive for a newbie on that committee. So he does already have some experience with the GNSO operating procedures. He does however on occasion have trouble making it to conference calls, as he appears to need to be in court quite often.

Thanks.

Amr

> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu> wrote:
>
> Thanks Amr for the update.
> I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC)
> We should move quickly, true.
> St.
> ________________________________________
> Da: PC-NCSG <pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org> per conto di Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43
> A: pc-ncsg
> Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team)
>
> Hi,
>
> Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows:
>
> BC: Steve Del Bianco
> IPC: Steve Metalitz
> ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty
> RySG: David Maher
> RrSG: Darcy Southwell
> NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen
> Farzaneh Badii
> Amr Elsadr
> Matthew Shears
> Wisdom Donkor
> Sonigitu Ekpe
> Pascal Bekono
> Karel Douglas
> Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG)
>
> Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it's best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG's interest in the DT's work.
>
> I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names.
>
> I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group.
>
> I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward.
>
> It all sounds good to me.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net<mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Amr,
>
> The composition of the drafting team
> was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting.
>
> Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent.
>
> The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT.
>
> I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani's and Farzaneh's. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6.
>
> Ed., thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO's new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong.
>
> So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat:
>
> 1. Amr Elsadr
> 2. Matthew Shears
> 3. Wisdom Donkor
> 4. Sonigitu Ekpe
> 5. Pascal Bekono
> 6. Karel Douglas
>
> I've also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>
> Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team)
> Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2
> To: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>, "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>
> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>
> Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG.
>
> Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who "can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures." In addition, the resolution provides that "the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members."
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
>
> Mary Wong
> Senior Policy Director
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> Email: mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>
> Telephone: +1-603-5744889
>
>
>
> From: <owner-council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50
> To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>
> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team
>
> Hi,
>
> This wasn't very clear to me, so yes., it does help greatly.
>
> Thanks James.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com<mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Amr-
>
> In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don't believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> J.
>
>
> From: <owner-council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org<mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36
> To: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org<mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team
>
> Hi,
>
> We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning "Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws":
>
> In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn't think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat.
>
> As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear GNSO Councilors,
>
> Please see the following Call for Volunteers.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Nathalie
> --
>
> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO's New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws
>
> In Brief
>
> Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO's new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws.
>
> What This Team Will Do
>
> The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities.
> The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016.
> As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote.
>
> How to Join
> Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.org<mailto:gnso-sec at icann.org>by 22 July 2016.
>
> Next steps
>
> As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team's work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks.
>
> Further information and Preparation
>
> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf.
>
> Background
>
> On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO's current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO's participation in the Empowered Community. Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO's new roles and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws.
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