From mshears Mon Aug 1 14:56:58 2016 From: mshears (matthew shears) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 12:56:58 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Next Post Transition IANA public comments due August 7 and 11! Message-ID: <7277962c-8251-2e59-2fbf-1df80dbb0419@cdt.org> Dear all Thanks for the excellent work on the PTI AoI public comments which were filed yesterday: https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-pti-articles-incorporation-01jul16/ *However, our work is not done... We have two impending deadlines:* Aug 7 - for the PTI governance dox, and Aug 11 for the PTI bylaws. _I refer you again to the google doc and encourage you to add comments/questions/text_: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19a1YqSnQ-QFBQF1Im0cnHKMeW8RAEBChdJgp6q6wAs4/edit For those interested in codes of conduct, standards of behavior and conflict of interest for PTI the deadline is Aug 7: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/pti-governance-documents-2016-07-08-en For those interested in the PTI bylaws the deadline is Aug 11: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-pti-bylaws-2016-07-12-en Looking forward to seeing your contributions. Many thanks. Matthew -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Mon Aug 1 17:46:27 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:46:27 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Reminder on Community comment for New gTLD In-Reply-To: <2d0d1578-ca36-07db-01ff-576f99edc609@acm.org> References: <2d0d1578-ca36-07db-01ff-576f99edc609@acm.org> Message-ID: <0ca62263-72eb-0aee-b286-a50ed118d21a@apc.org> Hi, At today's SubPro meeting we gave everyone until Friday of this week. and chance we will see one from NCSG? If not, might want to send a note in saying we don't plan to comment at this time. And if working on one, but need a few extra days, a set schedule would be a good answer as well. avri On 11-Jul-16 13:37, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > NCSG Outreach - Community Comment 1.docx > > > https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/58001974/NCSG%20Outreach%20-%20Community%20Comment%201.docx?version=2&modificationDate=1465420822248&api=v2 > > NCSG Outreach - Community Comment 1.pdf > > > https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/58001974/NCSG%20Outreach%20-%20Community%20Comment%201.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1465420832733&api=v2 > > > > > > >> If possible, please forward >> your comments and input to us by Monday, 25 July 2016 so that we may >> fully consider it in our further >> deliberations. >> > > > avri > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From aelsadr Wed Aug 3 16:00:43 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:00:43 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> Message-ID: <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> Hi, Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: BC: Steve Del Bianco IPC: Steve Metalitz ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty RySG: David Maher RrSG: Darcy Southwell NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen Farzaneh Badii Amr Elsadr Matthew Shears Wisdom Donkor Sonigitu Ekpe Pascal Bekono Karel Douglas Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it?s best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG?s interest in the DT?s work. I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. Thanks. Amr > On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. > > It all sounds good to me. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >> >> Hi Amr, >> >> The composition of the drafting team >> was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. >> >> Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. >> >> The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. >> >> I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani?s and Farzaneh?s. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. >>> >>> Ed?, thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO?s new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. >>>> >>>> So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: >>>> >>>> 1. Amr Elsadr >>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>> 3. Wisdom Donkor >>>> 4. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>> 5. Pascal Bekono >>>> 6. Karel Douglas >>>> >>>> I?ve also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: Mary Wong > >>>>> Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>>> Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 >>>>> To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > >>>>> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org " > >>>>> >>>>> Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. >>>>> >>>>> Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures.? In addition, the resolution provides that ?the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members.? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and cheers >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mary Wong >>>>> Senior Policy Director >>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >>>>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org >>>>> Telephone: +1-603-5744889 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >>>>> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 >>>>> To: "James M. Bladel" > >>>>> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org " > >>>>> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> This wasn?t very clear to me, so yes?, it does help greatly. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks James. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Amr- >>>>>> >>>>>> In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don?t believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> J. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 >>>>>> To: GNSO Council List > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning ?Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws?: >>>>>> >>>>>> In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn?t think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. >>>>>> >>>>>> As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear GNSO Councilors, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please see the following Call for Volunteers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathalie >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO?s New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Brief >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What This Team Will Do >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. >>>>>>> The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. >>>>>>> As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How to Join >>>>>>> Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.org by 22 July 2016. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Next steps >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Further information and Preparation >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Background >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO?s current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf ), including but not limited to the GNSO?s participation in the Empowered Community. 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URL: From Stefania.Milan Wed Aug 3 16:05:32 2016 From: Stefania.Milan (Milan, Stefania) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:05:32 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> , <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Thanks Amr for the update. I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC) We should move quickly, true. St. ________________________________________ Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43 A: pc-ncsg Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) Hi, Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: BC: Steve Del Bianco IPC: Steve Metalitz ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty RySG: David Maher RrSG: Darcy Southwell NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen Farzaneh Badii Amr Elsadr Matthew Shears Wisdom Donkor Sonigitu Ekpe Pascal Bekono Karel Douglas Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it?s best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG?s interest in the DT?s work. I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. Thanks. Amr On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: Hi Ed, Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. It all sounds good to me. Thanks. Amr On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: Hi Amr, The composition of the drafting team was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. Kind Regards, Ed Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: Hi again, And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani?s and Farzaneh?s. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. Ed?, thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) Thanks again. Amr On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: Hi, I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO?s new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: 1. Amr Elsadr 2. Matthew Shears 3. Wisdom Donkor 4. Sonigitu Ekpe 5. Pascal Bekono 6. Karel Douglas I?ve also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. Thoughts? Thanks. Amr Begin forwarded message: From: Mary Wong > Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures.? In addition, the resolution provides that ?the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members.? Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong at icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889 From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 To: "James M. Bladel" > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team Hi, This wasn?t very clear to me, so yes?, it does help greatly. Thanks James. Amr On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: Hi Amr- In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don?t believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. Hope this helps. J. From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 To: GNSO Council List > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team Hi, We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning ?Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws?: In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn?t think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. Thanks. Amr On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: Dear GNSO Councilors, Please see the following Call for Volunteers. Kind regards, Nathalie -- Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO?s New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws In Brief Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. What This Team Will Do The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. How to Join Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.orgby 22 July 2016. Next steps As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. Further information and Preparation For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf. Background On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO?s current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO?s participation in the Empowered Community. Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws. _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From aelsadr Wed Aug 3 16:30:49 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:30:49 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> Hi, If we do proceed as I suggest we do, then I would also support Tapani being the third NCSG appointee. Karel is also worthy of consideration. For those of you who may not recall, we appointed Karel to the SCI as an NCSG rep there a while back. His participation on the SCI has been pretty impressive for a newbie on that committee. So he does already have some experience with the GNSO operating procedures. He does however on occasion have trouble making it to conference calls, as he appears to need to be in court quite often. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Milan, Stefania wrote: > > Thanks Amr for the update. > I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC) > We should move quickly, true. > St. > ________________________________________ > Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr > Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43 > A: pc-ncsg > Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) > > Hi, > > Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: > > BC: Steve Del Bianco > IPC: Steve Metalitz > ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty > RySG: David Maher > RrSG: Darcy Southwell > NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen > Farzaneh Badii > Amr Elsadr > Matthew Shears > Wisdom Donkor > Sonigitu Ekpe > Pascal Bekono > Karel Douglas > Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) > > Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it?s best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG?s interest in the DT?s work. > > I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. > > I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. > > I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. > > It all sounds good to me. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: > > Hi Amr, > > The composition of the drafting team > was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. > > Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. > > The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. > > I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi again, > > And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani?s and Farzaneh?s. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. > > Ed?, thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO?s new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. > > So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: > > 1. Amr Elsadr > 2. Matthew Shears > 3. Wisdom Donkor > 4. Sonigitu Ekpe > 5. Pascal Bekono > 6. Karel Douglas > > I?ve also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Amr > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mary Wong > > Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) > Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 > To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > > Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. > > Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures.? In addition, the resolution provides that ?the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members.? > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Email: mary.wong at icann.org > Telephone: +1-603-5744889 > > > > From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 > To: "James M. Bladel" > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team > > Hi, > > This wasn?t very clear to me, so yes?, it does help greatly. > > Thanks James. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: > > Hi Amr- > > In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don?t believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. > > Hope this helps. > > J. > > > From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 > To: GNSO Council List > > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team > > Hi, > > We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning ?Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws?: > > In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn?t think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. > > As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: > > Dear GNSO Councilors, > > Please see the following Call for Volunteers. > > Kind regards, > > Nathalie > -- > > Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO?s New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws > > In Brief > > Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. > > What This Team Will Do > > The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. > The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. > As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. > > How to Join > Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.orgby 22 July 2016. > > Next steps > > As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. > > Further information and Preparation > > For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf. > > Background > > On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO?s current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO?s participation in the Empowered Community. Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From egmorris1 Wed Aug 3 16:38:06 2016 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 09:38:06 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Hi everybody, Thanks Amr for picking up on this. Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. Thanks, Ed ---------------------------------------- From: "Amr Elsadr" Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:23 PM To: "Milan, Stefania" Cc: "pc-ncsg" Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) Hi, If we do proceed as I suggest we do, then I would also support Tapani being the third NCSG appointee. Karel is also worthy of consideration. For those of you who may not recall, we appointed Karel to the SCI as an NCSG rep there a while back. His participation on the SCI has been pretty impressive for a newbie on that committee. So he does already have some experience with the GNSO operating procedures. He does however on occasion have trouble making it to conference calls, as he appears to need to be in court quite often. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Milan, Stefania wrote: > > Thanks Amr for the update. > I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC) > We should move quickly, true. > St. > ________________________________________ > Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr > Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43 > A: pc-ncsg > Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) > > Hi, > > Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: > > BC: Steve Del Bianco > IPC: Steve Metalitz > ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty > RySG: David Maher > RrSG: Darcy Southwell > NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen > Farzaneh Badii > Amr Elsadr > Matthew Shears > Wisdom Donkor > Sonigitu Ekpe > Pascal Bekono > Karel Douglas > Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) > > Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it's best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG's interest in the DT's work. > > I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. > > I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. > > I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. > > It all sounds good to me. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: > > Hi Amr, > > The composition of the drafting team > was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. > > Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. > > The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. > > I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. > > Kind Regards, > > Ed > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi again, > > And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani's and Farzaneh's. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. > > Ed., thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO's new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. > > So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: > > 1. Amr Elsadr > 2. Matthew Shears > 3. Wisdom Donkor > 4. Sonigitu Ekpe > 5. Pascal Bekono > 6. Karel Douglas > > I've also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Amr > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mary Wong > > Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) > Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 > To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > > Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. > > Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who "can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures." In addition, the resolution provides that "the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members." > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Email: mary.wong at icann.org > Telephone: +1-603-5744889 > > > > From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 > To: "James M. Bladel" > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team > > Hi, > > This wasn't very clear to me, so yes., it does help greatly. > > Thanks James. > > Amr > > On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: > > Hi Amr- > > In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don't believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. > > Hope this helps. > > J. > > > From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > > Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 > To: GNSO Council List > > Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team > > Hi, > > We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning "Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws": > > In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn't think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. > > As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: > > Dear GNSO Councilors, > > Please see the following Call for Volunteers. > > Kind regards, > > Nathalie > -- > > Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO's New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws > > In Brief > > Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO's new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. > > What This Team Will Do > > The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. > The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. > As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. > > How to Join > Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.orgby 22 July 2016. > > Next steps > > As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team's work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. > > Further information and Preparation > > For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf. > > Background > > On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO's current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO's participation in the Empowered Community. Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO's new roles and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. 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URL: From aelsadr Wed Aug 3 18:19:35 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 17:19:35 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> Hi, > On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Thanks Amr for picking up on this. > > Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. > Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. Thanks. Amr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Wed Aug 3 18:38:08 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:38:08 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <2d4c85e8-0564-5d2c-bbe4-82536d4aa6e6@mail.utoronto.ca> Sounds sensible to me. Stephanie On 2016-08-03 9:30, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > If we do proceed as I suggest we do, then I would also support Tapani being the third NCSG appointee. > > Karel is also worthy of consideration. For those of you who may not recall, we appointed Karel to the SCI as an NCSG rep there a while back. His participation on the SCI has been pretty impressive for a newbie on that committee. So he does already have some experience with the GNSO operating procedures. He does however on occasion have trouble making it to conference calls, as he appears to need to be in court quite often. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Milan, Stefania wrote: >> >> Thanks Amr for the update. >> I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC) >> We should move quickly, true. >> St. >> ________________________________________ >> Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr >> Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43 >> A: pc-ncsg >> Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >> >> Hi, >> >> Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: >> >> BC: Steve Del Bianco >> IPC: Steve Metalitz >> ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty >> RySG: David Maher >> RrSG: Darcy Southwell >> NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen >> Farzaneh Badii >> Amr Elsadr >> Matthew Shears >> Wisdom Donkor >> Sonigitu Ekpe >> Pascal Bekono >> Karel Douglas >> Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) >> >> Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it?s best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG?s interest in the DT?s work. >> >> I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. >> >> I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. >> >> I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. >> >> It all sounds good to me. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >> >> Hi Amr, >> >> The composition of the drafting team >> was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. >> >> Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. >> >> The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. >> >> I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >> >> Hi again, >> >> And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani?s and Farzaneh?s. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. >> >> Ed?, thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Amr >> >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO?s new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. >> >> So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: >> >> 1. Amr Elsadr >> 2. Matthew Shears >> 3. Wisdom Donkor >> 4. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 5. Pascal Bekono >> 6. Karel Douglas >> >> I?ve also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Mary Wong > >> Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >> Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 >> To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > >> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > >> >> Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. >> >> Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures.? In addition, the resolution provides that ?the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members.? >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >> Email: mary.wong at icann.org >> Telephone: +1-603-5744889 >> >> >> >> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 >> To: "James M. Bladel" > >> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > >> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >> >> Hi, >> >> This wasn?t very clear to me, so yes?, it does help greatly. >> >> Thanks James. >> >> Amr >> >> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: >> >> Hi Amr- >> >> In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don?t believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> J. >> >> >> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 >> To: GNSO Council List > >> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >> >> Hi, >> >> We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning ?Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws?: >> >> In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn?t think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. >> >> As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: >> >> Dear GNSO Councilors, >> >> Please see the following Call for Volunteers. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Nathalie >> -- >> >> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO?s New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws >> >> In Brief >> >> Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. >> >> What This Team Will Do >> >> The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. >> The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. >> As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. >> >> How to Join >> Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.orgby 22 July 2016. >> >> Next steps >> >> As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >> >> Further information and Preparation >> >> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf. >> >> Background >> >> On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO?s current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO?s participation in the Empowered Community. 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URL: From t.tropina Wed Aug 3 19:16:08 2016 From: t.tropina (Dr. Tatiana Tropina) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:16:08 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <2d4c85e8-0564-5d2c-bbe4-82536d4aa6e6@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <2d4c85e8-0564-5d2c-bbe4-82536d4aa6e6@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <8bf1182b-bfd9-deb2-000d-b04e11ab2b69@mpicc.de> Hi all, I support the inclusion of Matt, Farzy and Tapani (though I liked the suggestion of Amr's name being there too), thanks Amr for leading this. Cheers Tanya On 03/08/16 17:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > Sounds sensible to me. > > Stephanie > > > On 2016-08-03 9:30, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If we do proceed as I suggest we do, then I would also support Tapani being the third NCSG appointee. >> >> Karel is also worthy of consideration. For those of you who may not recall, we appointed Karel to the SCI as an NCSG rep there a while back. His participation on the SCI has been pretty impressive for a newbie on that committee. So he does already have some experience with the GNSO operating procedures. He does however on occasion have trouble making it to conference calls, as he appears to need to be in court quite often. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Milan, Stefania wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Amr for the update. >>> I totally support your idea of cutting our own list, reducing it to Matt and Farzi, and a third person, potentially Tapani (who more explicitely represents NCSG as opposed to NCUC) >>> We should move quickly, true. >>> St. >>> ________________________________________ >>> Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr >>> Inviato: mercoled? 3 agosto 2016 15.00.43 >>> A: pc-ncsg >>> Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Following up on this again. Each of the GNSO SGs/Cs have indicated who their reps on this DT will be as follows: >>> >>> BC: Steve Del Bianco >>> IPC: Steve Metalitz >>> ISPCPC: Malcolm Hutty >>> RySG: David Maher >>> RrSG: Darcy Southwell >>> NCSG: Tapani Tarvainen >>> Farzaneh Badii >>> Amr Elsadr >>> Matthew Shears >>> Wisdom Donkor >>> Sonigitu Ekpe >>> Pascal Bekono >>> Karel Douglas >>> Edward Morris (listed as a candidate appointed by both the NCA and NCSG) >>> >>> Nobody from the Council has commented on this yet, but it will happen eventually. I believe it?s best if we handle this ourselves right now. My suggestion would be to cut our list of appointed members of this DT to 3. If members of the PC find this agreeable, I would certainly opt for Matt and Farzi to be two of our 3 members. Having their expertise from the CCWG would be very important to both this DT as well as the NCSG?s interest in the DT?s work. >>> >>> I would suggest cutting Ed from this list, and keeping him on the DT as the DT member selected by the NCA (no need for duplication), which would give us one more seat to fill from the remaining names. >>> >>> I am also fine with withdrawing my name from the list to make room for others who wish to be engaged in this group. >>> >>> I would appreciate hearing thoughts on this approach, or possible alternatives. We need to settle this quickly, so that the DT may begin its work without too much chatter on Council list resulting from our overwhelmingly long list of appointees. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> Apologies for taking so long to get back to you. Wanted to thank you, both, for the context on the DT composition as well as the suggestion on how to move forward. >>> >>> It all sounds good to me. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Amr, >>> >>> The composition of the drafting team >>> was the result of some pretty intense negotiation involving ourselves, the Intellectual Property Constituency and the NCPH NCA during the Helsinki meeting. Nominations were to be made by individual Councillors rather than by SG/C's to satisfy the concerns of the NCA and were a compromise that also reflected the concerns of the IPC and ourselves. The DT was the single major issue discussed during the Wednesday informal Council meeting. >>> >>> Composition of the DT is to reflect the composition of the Council. The DT will operate by consensus and the final result will be subject to approval by a supermajority of the Council. These provisions are largely the result of the work of the NCSG Council contingent. >>> >>> The DT will obviously not consist of 40 members (9 per SG plus NCA participation). I would suggest we wait until the close of nominations tonight at midnight, work with staff and Council leadership to determine how many NCSG members would be helpful and fair to include on the DT and then request our PC leadership to sort the process of determining who can best serve our Members by being on the DT. >>> >>> I think we all are aware how important this DT is - let's do our best to ensure our representation there represents our most qualified and experienced members. The outcome of this DT will go a long way in determining how influential the NCSG can and will be on the GNSO and ICANN itself going forward. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 15:54, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >>> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> And another quick update. Staff has just informed me that Ed has also submitted his name along with Tapani?s and Farzaneh?s. So we have 9 potential volunteers for this DT, not 6. >>> >>> Ed?, thanks for volunteering, and good job talking Tapani and Farzi into it. ;-) >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have an update on the call for volunteers for the GNSO DT to develop recommendations for implementing the GNSO?s new powers. My understanding of the announcement was that members of the SGs/Cs would simply inform on of their elected councillors of their desire to join the DT. I figured matching those volunteers against the desired experience in the announcement would be done at a later stage. I was apparently wrong. >>> >>> So far, 5 NCSG members have expressed interest in joining the DT. So along with my name, I submitted 6 names to the GNSO secretariat: >>> >>> 1. Amr Elsadr >>> 2. Matthew Shears >>> 3. Wisdom Donkor >>> 4. Sonigitu Ekpe >>> 5. Pascal Bekono >>> 6. Karel Douglas >>> >>> I?ve also asked that placeholders be held for these names until the NCSG PC can review them against the criteria described below. It seems the NCSG will have the last say in our appointments, and I was wondering whether or not we would like to go through an exercise to determine how well our members match these criteria. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Mary Wong > >>> Subject: REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>> Date: July 22, 2016 at 1:57:50 AM GMT+2 >>> To: Amr Elsadr >, "James M. Bladel" > >>> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > >>> >>> Hello and thanks to Amr for his question and reminder that the closing date for volunteers to send in their names was set to be Friday 22 July. As such, Councilors for those Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies that have not yet formally submitted names of volunteers are kindly requested to do so at their earliest convenience. FYI, as of today (21 July), staff has only received the names of five volunteers from the NCSG. >>> >>> Please note also that, in accordance with the resolution that established this Drafting Team, volunteers should be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures.? In addition, the resolution provides that ?the Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members.? >>> >>> Thanks and cheers >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Mary Wong >>> Senior Policy Director >>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org >>> Telephone: +1-603-5744889 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >>> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 19:50 >>> To: "James M. Bladel" > >>> Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > >>> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This wasn?t very clear to me, so yes?, it does help greatly. >>> >>> Thanks James. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2016, at 1:37 AM, James M. Bladel > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Amr- >>> >>> In fact, yes, I believe we were expecting the vetting of criteria/capabilities to be done by the SGs and Cs. Or, to turn the question around, I don?t believe it was anticipated that the Council would question or veto the selected member of any SG or C due to concerns. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> J. >>> >>> >>> From: > on behalf of Amr Elsadr > >>> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 18:36 >>> To: GNSO Council List > >>> Subject: Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We just ended our monthly call, and I had a question on the AOB agenda item number 9.2 concerning ?Update on status of progress on the Drafting Team that is to identify new and additional rights and responsibilities for the GNSO under the revised ICANN Bylaws?: >>> >>> In the below email, there are some qualifications described for potential volunteers to this group. I was wondering who is meant to determine whether these qualifications are met in volunteers. Is the GNSO Council meant to do this, or are the SGs/Cs supposed to do this prior to submitting names? I didn?t think the second scenario was the case, as the application process seems to be simply notifying a councillor of the desire to join the group, who would be expected, in turn, to communicated this to the GNSO secretariat. >>> >>> As James mentioned on the call, the deadline for applications to join this group is tomorrow. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Nathalie Peregrine > wrote: >>> >>> Dear GNSO Councilors, >>> >>> Please see the following Call for Volunteers. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Nathalie >>> -- >>> >>> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Drafting Team to Further Develop Recommendations to Implement the GNSO?s New Roles and Obligations Under the Revised ICANN Bylaws >>> >>> In Brief >>> >>> Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the post-transition ICANN Bylaws. >>> >>> What This Team Will Do >>> >>> The Drafting Team will work with ICANN staff to fully identify all the new or additional rights and responsibilities that the GNSO has under the post-transition Bylaws, including but not limited to participation of the GNSO within the Empowered Community, and to develop new or modified structures and procedures (as necessary) to fully implement these new or additional rights and responsibilities. >>> The Drafting Team shall provide the GNSO Council with an implementation plan, which will have the consensus of the Drafting Team, including any recommendations for needed further changes to ICANN Bylaws and/or GNSO Operating Procedures to enable effective GNSO participation in ICANN activities under the revised ICANN Bylaws, not later than 30 September 2016. >>> As part of the process of its consideration of the implementation plan, intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote, the Council may further request that the Drafting Team work with ICANN staff to develop new, or propose modifications to existing, procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. Any such new, or proposed modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO are also intended to be approved by a GNSO supermajority vote. >>> >>> How to Join >>> Volunteers for the Drafting Team will be identified by GNSO Council members. Volunteers should express interests and can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures. The Drafting Team shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified by the GNSO Council members. GNSO Councilors are requested to identify volunteers by email to gnso-sec at icann.orgby 22 July 2016. >>> >>> Next steps >>> >>> As noted above, the GNSO Council directed that this call for volunteers be circulated to the GNSO Council and that the volunteers should be identified by GNSO Council members. It is anticipated that the Drafting Team will convene online for the first time in early August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Drafting Team?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >>> >>> Further information and Preparation >>> >>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the table at: http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf. >>> >>> Background >>> >>> On 27 May 2016 the ICANN Board adopted a set of new ICANN Bylaws, as revised on 26 May 2016, that aim to reflect changes needed to implement the IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal and such adoption is contingent on the proposed transition away of remaining United States Government oversight of ICANN. The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council is aware that changes that may need to be made to the GNSO?s current Operating Procedures and related mechanisms and to the ICANN Bylaws in order to give effect to new roles and obligations of the GNSO under the new Bylaws, such as those in this table (http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/revised-bylaws-notes-comments-procedures-14jun16-en.pdf), including but not limited to the GNSO?s participation in the Empowered Community. Per the motion adopted on 30 June 2016, the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council seeks volunteers for a Drafting Team to further develop recommendations to implement the GNSO?s new roles and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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I would ask, though, that >> in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn >> from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. > > Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for > you to be an NCSG rep. > >> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his >> decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of >> GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol >> here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working >> with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, >> cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In >> your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people >> with GNSO experience. > > Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group > specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of > the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye > on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up > as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Thu Aug 4 20:08:27 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 19:08:27 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> Message-ID: <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears wrote: > > + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. > > On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >>> >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>> >>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. >> >> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >> >>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >> >> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 Thu Aug 4 20:29:54 2016 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:29:54 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> Hi Amr, Thanks for this. If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. Best, Ed ---------------------------------------- From: "Amr Elsadr" Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM To: "matthew shears" Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) OK., since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn't be part of the decision. I'll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. Thanks. Amr On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears wrote: + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: Hi, On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris wrote: Hi everybody, Thanks Amr for picking up on this. Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. Certainly. If you weren't nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT's work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. Thanks. Amr _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From t.tropina Thu Aug 4 21:31:02 2016 From: t.tropina (Dr. Tatiana Tropina) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 20:31:02 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> Message-ID: <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> Hi all, As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. Thanks a lot guys! Cheers Tanya On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: > Hi Amr, > > Thanks for this. > > If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! > > My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I > withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by > the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were > willing to serve. > > I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super > Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. > > Best, > > Ed > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From*: "Amr Elsadr" > *Sent*: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM > *To*: "matthew shears" > *Cc*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" > *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers > for GNSO Drafting Team) > > OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I > shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you > on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could > we have a decision before the weekend starts? > > I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list > before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears > > wrote: >> >> >> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO >> policies and procedures. >> >> >> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everybody, >>>> >>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>> >>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, >>>> that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was >>>> withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the >>>> NCA. >>> >>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted >>> for you to be an NCSG rep. >>> >>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider >>>> his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater >>>> knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be >>>> breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and >>>> his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and >>>> company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be >>>> my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or >>>> Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>> >>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group >>> specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of >>> the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye >>> on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up >>> as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> -- >> >> -------------- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 771 2472987 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Thu Aug 4 21:57:39 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 20:57:39 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16ECB6CA-BF0D-4A6F-8279-2F591F63D5D6@egyptig.org> Hi Poncelet, At this point, the NCSG may not suggest any new names that are not already on the list. There was a call for volunteers circulated with a deadline to submit names, which was July 22nd, and we did discuss this DT during our last NCSG monthly policy call. So we are limited in our selection to these 9 NCSG members irrespective of their constituency affiliations: Tapani Tarvainen Farzaneh Badii Amr Elsadr Matthew Shears Wisdom Donkor Sonigitu Ekpe Pascal Bekono Karel Douglas Edward Morris I will admit that the call for volunteers wasn?t circulated on the NCSG list until only a few days before the deadline. For my part in this delay in notice, I apologise, but I was offline for quite a while. Amr > On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Poncelet Ileleji wrote: > > > Dear Amr, > > Good day Sir, is it possible NPOC can get someone within the GNSO drafting team. Will be grateful to know if its still a possibility. > > Thank you > > Poncelet > -- > Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS > Coordinator > The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio > MDI Road Kanifing South > P. O. Box 421 Banjul > The Gambia, West Africa > Tel: (220) 4370240 > Fax:(220) 4390793 > Cell:(220) 9912508 > Skype: pons_utd > www.ymca.gm > http://jokkolabs.net/en/ > www.waigf.org > www,insistglobal.com > www.npoc.org > http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 > www.diplointernetgovernance.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Fri Aug 5 00:33:39 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 17:33:39 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> Message-ID: I agree. Stephanie On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: > Hi all, > > As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the > ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. > Thanks a lot guys! > > Cheers > Tanya > > On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >> Hi Amr, >> Thanks for this. >> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I >> withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated >> by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and >> were willing to serve. >> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super >> Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >> Best, >> Ed >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From*: "Amr Elsadr" >> *Sent*: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >> *To*: "matthew shears" >> *Cc*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" >> *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers >> for GNSO Drafting Team) >> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I >> shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of >> you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, >> could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council >> list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. >> Thanks. >> Amr >>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears >> > wrote: >>> >>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO >>> policies and procedures. >>> >>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris >>>> > wrote: >>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, >>>>> that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was >>>>> withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by >>>>> the NCA. >>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted >>>> for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider >>>>> his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater >>>>> knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be >>>>> breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and >>>>> his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and >>>>> company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would >>>>> be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or >>>>> Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group >>>> specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of >>>> the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an >>>> eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on >>>> signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>>> Thanks. >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> -- >>> >>> -------------- >>> Matthew Shears >>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>> + 44 771 2472987 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would it be OK if I communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. Thanks again. Amr > On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > I agree. > > Stephanie > > On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >> Thanks a lot guys! >> >> Cheers >> Tanya >> >> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>> Hi Amr, >>> >>> Thanks for this. >>> >>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>> >>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. >>> >>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "Amr Elsadr" >>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>> To: "matthew shears" >>> Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net , "pc-ncsg" >>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>> >>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>> >>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears > wrote: >>>> >>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. >>>>> >>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>>>> >>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> -------------- >>>> Matthew Shears >>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>> + 44 771 2472987 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With yourself, Farzi, Matt and Ed we are excellently represented. Thanks to all I am ok with you communicating the decision, if our chairs are of the same advice. Best, Stefania ________________________________________ Da: PC-NCSG per conto di Amr Elsadr Inviato: venerd? 5 agosto 2016 15.01.08 A: Stephanie Perrin Cc: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org Oggetto: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) Hi again, ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. Thanks again. Amr On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: I agree. Stephanie On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: Hi all, As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. Thanks a lot guys! Cheers Tanya On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: Hi Amr, Thanks for this. If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. Best, Ed ________________________________ From: "Amr Elsadr" Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM To: "matthew shears" Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. Thanks. Amr On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears > wrote: + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: Hi, On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: Hi everybody, Thanks Amr for picking up on this. Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. Thanks. 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From mshears Fri Aug 5 17:04:42 2016 From: mshears (matthew shears) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:04:42 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> Message-ID: I should probably recuse myself - but I certainly support Amr and Farzi. Matthew On 05/08/2016 14:01, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi again, > > ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I > communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and > myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed > by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. > > Thanks again. > > Amr > >> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin >> > > wrote: >> >> I agree. >> >> Stephanie >> >> >> On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the >>> ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >>> Thanks a lot guys! >>> >>> Cheers >>> Tanya >>> >>> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>>> Hi Amr, >>>> Thanks for this. >>>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I >>>> withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated >>>> by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up >>>> and were willing to serve. >>>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super >>>> Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >>>> Best, >>>> Ed >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From*: "Amr Elsadr" >>>> *Sent*: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>>> *To*: "matthew shears" >>>> *Cc*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" >>>> *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for >>>> Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe >>>> I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest >>>> of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if >>>> possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council >>>> list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen >>>> soon. >>>> Thanks. >>>> Amr >>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of >>>>> GNSO policies and procedures. >>>>> >>>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, >>>>>>> that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was >>>>>>> withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by >>>>>>> the NCA. >>>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have >>>>>> opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider >>>>>>> his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater >>>>>>> knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be >>>>>>> breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills >>>>>>> and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and >>>>>>> company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would >>>>>>> be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either >>>>>>> Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO >>>>>>> experience. >>>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group >>>>>> specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding >>>>>> of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep >>>>>> an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on >>>>>> signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -------------- >>>>> Matthew Shears >>>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>>> + 44 771 2472987 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mshears Fri Aug 5 17:19:24 2016 From: mshears (matthew shears) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:19:24 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Post Transition IANA governance dox public comments closes August 7 In-Reply-To: <7277962c-8251-2e59-2fbf-1df80dbb0419@cdt.org> References: <7277962c-8251-2e59-2fbf-1df80dbb0419@cdt.org> Message-ID: <66a6f52e-4a47-958e-7ebe-dd03e406b20b@cdt.org> NCSG PCers Sending this around again. Deadline is 23.59 the 7th - Sunday. So far I have one comment on the conflict of interest document and that is all. Please see the google doc in the e-mail trail below for the link. If there are any other comments you wish to make today is the day to do so. If there are any concerns on the comments received so far, make them today as well - thanks. Matthew On 01/08/2016 12:56, matthew shears wrote: > > Dear all > > Thanks for the excellent work on the PTI AoI public comments which > were filed yesterday: > > https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-pti-articles-incorporation-01jul16/ > > *However, our work is not done... We have two impending deadlines:* > > Aug 7 - for the PTI governance dox, and Aug 11 for the PTI bylaws. > > _I refer you again to the google doc and encourage you to add > comments/questions/text_: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19a1YqSnQ-QFBQF1Im0cnHKMeW8RAEBChdJgp6q6wAs4/edit > > For those interested in codes of conduct, standards of behavior and > conflict of interest for PTI the deadline is Aug 7: > > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/pti-governance-documents-2016-07-08-en > > For those interested in the PTI bylaws the deadline is Aug 11: > > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-pti-bylaws-2016-07-12-en > > Looking forward to seeing your contributions. > > Many thanks. > > Matthew > > > > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Fri Aug 5 18:12:39 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:12:39 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> Procedurally, I need a go ahead from the PC leadership team. There doesn?t seem to be any objection, so my take is that we have achieved our ?rough consensus?. May I communicate the PC?s decision to the Council? Thanks. Amr > On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:04 PM, matthew shears wrote: > > I should probably recuse myself - but I certainly support Amr and Farzi. > > Matthew > > On 05/08/2016 14:01, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi again, >> >> ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Amr >> >>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >>> >>> I agree. >>> >>> Stephanie >>> >>> On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >>>> Thanks a lot guys! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Tanya >>>> >>>> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>>>> Hi Amr, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for this. >>>>> >>>>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>>>> >>>>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. >>>>> >>>>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Amr Elsadr" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>>>> To: "matthew shears" >>>>> Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net , "pc-ncsg" >>>>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>>> >>>>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>>>> >>>>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------- >>>>>> Matthew Shears >>>>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>>>> + 44 771 2472987 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 Fri Aug 5 18:11:03 2016 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 16:11:03 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <8BA2D564-A5B8-4D0B-AA0B-D36C783360EB@toast.net> Amr, I have no real authority here but I certainly think that would be appropriate. Staff needs to get going on this. Best, Ed Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Aug 2016, at 16:03, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Procedurally, I need a go ahead from the PC leadership team. There doesn?t seem to be any objection, so my take is that we have achieved our ?rough consensus?. May I communicate the PC?s decision to the Council? > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:04 PM, matthew shears wrote: >> >> I should probably recuse myself - but I certainly support Amr and Farzi. >> >> Matthew >> >>> On 05/08/2016 14:01, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>>> On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >>>>> Thanks a lot guys! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Tanya >>>>> >>>>>> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>>>>> Hi Amr, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for this. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>>>>> >>>>>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Amr Elsadr" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>>>>> To: "matthew shears" >>>>>> Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>>>> >>>>>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO Review WG. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>> Matthew Shears >>>>>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>>>>> + 44 771 2472987 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> -- >> >> -------------- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 771 2472987 > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mshears Fri Aug 5 19:39:34 2016 From: mshears (matthew shears) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:39:34 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> Message-ID: I concur Amr. Not seen any objections to the slate. On 05/08/2016 16:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Procedurally, I need a go ahead from the PC leadership team. There > doesn?t seem to be any objection, so my take is that we have achieved > our ?rough consensus?. May I communicate the PC?s decision to the Council? > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:04 PM, matthew shears > > wrote: >> >> I should probably recuse myself - but I certainly support Amr and Farzi. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> On 05/08/2016 14:01, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I >>> communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt >>> and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member >>> appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for >>> confirmation. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree. >>>> >>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in >>>>> the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >>>>> Thanks a lot guys! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Tanya >>>>> >>>>> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>>>>> Hi Amr, >>>>>> Thanks for this. >>>>>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>>>>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I >>>>>> withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been >>>>>> nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who >>>>>> stepped up and were willing to serve. >>>>>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the >>>>>> Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this >>>>>> right. >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> *From*: "Amr Elsadr" >>>>>> *Sent*: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>>>>> *To*: "matthew shears" >>>>>> *Cc*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "pc-ncsg" >>>>>> *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for >>>>>> Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>>>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, >>>>>> maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to >>>>>> the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. >>>>>> But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>>>>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council >>>>>> list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will >>>>>> happen soon. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of >>>>>>> GNSO policies and procedures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, >>>>>>>>> though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my >>>>>>>>> name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been >>>>>>>>> nominated by the NCA. >>>>>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have >>>>>>>> opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to >>>>>>>>> reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a >>>>>>>>> greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I >>>>>>>>> may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his >>>>>>>>> skills and his experience working with and against Steve >>>>>>>>> Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please >>>>>>>>> know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your >>>>>>>>> absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as >>>>>>>>> people with GNSO experience. >>>>>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group >>>>>>>> specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep >>>>>>>> understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do >>>>>>>> my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on >>>>>>>> it. I also plan on signing up as a participant to the GNSO >>>>>>>> Review WG. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>> Matthew Shears >>>>>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>>>>> + 44 771 2472987 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> -- >> >> -------------- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 771 2472987 > -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My understanding is that the CCWG?s time frame required a full day F2F meeting and that this could only be accomplished on that date. Best to all, Philip *Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal* *Virtualaw LLC* *1155 F Street, NW* *Suite 1050* *Washington, DC 20004* *202-559-8597/Direct* *202-559-8750/Fax* *202-255-6172/Cell*** ** *Twitter: @VlawDC* */"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey/* *From:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Karen Mulberry *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:58 PM *To:* CCWG accountability *Cc:* ACCT-Staff *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and Travel Funding Process for Members Dear CCWG-Acct , I wanted to let you know that the November 2nd Face-to-Face meeting in Hyderabad the day before ICANN 57 has been confirmed. A process had been prepared for CCWG appointed members to apply for travel funding to attend the meeting that aligns with the CCWG-Acct budget for WS2. The current budgeted amount to support the work of CCWG WS2 members allocates support (travel, hotel and per diem) for an amount equivalent to 20 appointed members to attend a CCWG-Acct. face-to-face meeting in association with an ICANN meeting with support for 7 days. The Co-Chairs have the authority to re-allocate this amount ? this could include supporting requests for partial funding to allow them to maximize the number of members attending (e.g. if someone only needs a few additional days of hotel this could be acceptable). You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG if you are an officially appointed member of WS2 from a Chartering SO or AC. Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency Travel Guidelines located at: https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home The CCWG travel support slots will be allocated as follows: CCWG Co-Chairs ? 3 slots (or equivalent amount) CCWG Appointed Members ? 17 slots (or equivalent amount) CCWG appointed Members requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel support to attend a face-to-face meeting must complete the travel request form _three (3) months_ in advance of the date of the CCWG face-to-face meeting in order to be considered for funding. NOTE: In evaluating the applications for travel funding the Co-Chairs will consider applicant's attendance to CCWG meetings and their contributions to the ongoing work. CCWG Staff support will send out an announcement regarding the application for travel support and deadline for application submissions as soon as a face-to-face meeting has been approved. The application to request travel support is located at: https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw *_The deadline for applications for travel funding for the Hyderabad face-to-face meeting is August 5th 23:59 UTC_*. CCWG approved members seeking travel support must submit their applications by the August 5^th in order to be considered for travel support Completed forms can be sent to Acct-Staff at icann.org for submission to the Co-Chairs for review and approval. All applicants for CCWG WS2 travel support will be posted on the CCWG WS2 wiki under Travel Support at https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw. Names will be listed under Requested and then once approved will be list under approved for travel support including the type of support that is approved The Co-Chairs will review the applications received, including the requests for partial support, and determine the list of approved CCWG members who will receive travel funding. 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There was a call for volunteers circulated with a deadline to > submit names, which was July 22nd, and we did discuss this DT during our > last NCSG monthly policy call. So we are limited in our selection to these > 9 NCSG members irrespective of their constituency affiliations: > > Tapani Tarvainen > Farzaneh Badii > Amr Elsadr > Matthew Shears > Wisdom Donkor > Sonigitu Ekpe > Pascal Bekono > Karel Douglas > Edward Morris > > I will admit that the call for volunteers wasn?t circulated on the NCSG > list until only a few days before the deadline. For my part in this delay > in notice, I apologise, but I was offline for quite a while. > > Amr > > On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Poncelet Ileleji wrote: > > > Dear Amr, > > Good day Sir, is it possible NPOC can get someone within the GNSO > drafting team. Will be grateful to know if its still a possibility. > > Thank you > > Poncelet > -- > Poncelet O. 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Amr > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > I trust our members have got their support requests in by this deadline of today? > > stephanie > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and Travel Funding Process for Members > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 02:36:37 +0000 > From: Phil Corwin > To: council at gnso.icann.org > > Fellow Councilors: > > I just wanted to make sure that you were all aware that a full day meeting of the CCWG on WS2 Accountability issues has been scheduled for November 2nd , the day prior to the official start of ICANN 57. My understanding is that the CCWG?s time frame required a full day F2F meeting and that this could only be accomplished on that date. > > Best to all, Philip > > > > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal > Virtualaw LLC > 1155 F Street, NW > Suite 1050 > Washington, DC 20004 > 202-559-8597/Direct > 202-559-8750/Fax > 202-255-6172/Cell > > Twitter: @VlawDC > > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey > > From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org ] On Behalf Of Karen Mulberry > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:58 PM > To: CCWG accountability > Cc: ACCT-Staff > Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and Travel Funding Process for Members > > Dear CCWG-Acct , > > I wanted to let you know that the November 2nd Face-to-Face meeting in Hyderabad the day before ICANN 57 has been confirmed. > > A process had been prepared for CCWG appointed members to apply for travel funding to attend the meeting that aligns with the CCWG-Acct budget for WS2. > > The current budgeted amount to support the work of CCWG WS2 members allocates support (travel, hotel and per diem) for an amount equivalent to 20 appointed members to attend a CCWG-Acct. face-to-face meeting in association with an ICANN meeting with support for 7 days. The Co-Chairs have the authority to re-allocate this amount ? this could include supporting requests for partial funding to allow them to maximize the number of members attending (e.g. if someone only needs a few additional days of hotel this could be acceptable). > > You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG if you are an officially appointed member of WS2 from a Chartering SO or AC. > > Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency Travel Guidelines located at: > https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home > > The CCWG travel support slots will be allocated as follows: > > CCWG Co-Chairs ? 3 slots (or equivalent amount) > CCWG Appointed Members ? 17 slots (or equivalent amount) > > CCWG appointed Members requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for travel support to attend a face-to-face meeting must complete the travel request form three (3) months in advance of the date of the CCWG face-to-face meeting in order to be considered for funding. > > NOTE: In evaluating the applications for travel funding the Co-Chairs will consider applicant's attendance to CCWG meetings and their contributions to the ongoing work. > > CCWG Staff support will send out an announcement regarding the application for travel support and deadline for application submissions as soon as a face-to-face meeting has been approved. The application to request travel support is located at: https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw > > The deadline for applications for travel funding for the Hyderabad face-to-face meeting is August 5th 23:59 UTC. > > CCWG approved members seeking travel support must submit their applications by the August 5th in order to be considered for travel support > > Completed forms can be sent to Acct-Staff at icann.org for submission to the Co-Chairs for review and approval. > > All applicants for CCWG WS2 travel support will be posted on the CCWG WS2 wiki under Travel Support at https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw . Names will be listed under Requested and then once approved will be list under approved for travel support including the type of support that is approved > > The Co-Chairs will review the applications received, including the requests for partial support, and determine the list of approved CCWG members who will receive travel funding. > > The CCWG approved travel support list will be submitted to ICANN Constituency Travel for processing according to community travel guidelines. > > The approved list of funded CCWG members will be posted on the WS2 wiki athttps://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support > > > Karen Mulberry > Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives > ICANN > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7690 / Virus Database: 4627/12704 - Release Date: 07/29/16 > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Fri Aug 5 21:30:28 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 20:30:28 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) In-Reply-To: References: <644CC0BD-5A57-48A1-AAA6-A1505CD7B651@icann.org> <61BA267E-B675-4C4E-A141-5E0F811419EB@egyptig.org> <0ED3EBD0-C392-425D-AF11-0811F6C7E8B1@toast.net> <46B6522B-FEB4-46E4-BF1E-6CB9138A0BAB@egyptig.org> <4DC8B793-4F65-4570-BB86-61CCD0575B2F@egyptig.org> <3476769E-DD84-4C35-980C-E4011BB2C899@egyptig.org> <1a70c719-c5d2-dd4c-4d7a-25d99ea77e04@cdt.org> <513F9FD4-1A0C-4D36-A13A-F39CA4863CF2@egyptig.org> <7cbfc82a82a74b4590069466798e5b28@toast.net> <14147753-b5a5-3645-497e-35369b58f03f@mpicc.de> <650ACF6C-77CF-405A-97E7-0F0B49B2B0F3@egyptig.org> <22185C2A-84C8-4D1E-8E87-548E049030AF@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <0CB21BAA-D465-41A8-9F07-936E934189CE@egyptig.org> Thanks Matt. Since you?re on the leadership team, I?ll go ahead then. Thanks again to all. Amr > On Aug 5, 2016, at 6:39 PM, matthew shears wrote: > > I concur Amr. Not seen any objections to the slate. > > On 05/08/2016 16:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Procedurally, I need a go ahead from the PC leadership team. There doesn?t seem to be any objection, so my take is that we have achieved our ?rough consensus?. May I communicate the PC?s decision to the Council? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 4:04 PM, matthew shears > wrote: >>> >>> I should probably recuse myself - but I certainly support Amr and Farzi. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> On 05/08/2016 14:01, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> ?, and thanks to those who?ve picked up on this. Would it be OK if I communicate to the Council that the NCSG has selected Farzi, Matt and myself with the understanding that Ed will also be a member appointed by the NCA? Looking to the PC leadership team for confirmation. >>>> >>>> Thanks again. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>>> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I agree. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-08-04 14:31, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> As stated earlier, Matt, Farzy and Amr (if he throws his hat in the ring, which is the case now) would be my endorsement. >>>>>> Thanks a lot guys! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Tanya >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/08/16 19:29, Edward Morris wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Amr, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are willing to serve...wow, that's great news! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My choices are yourself, Matt and Farzi along with a note that I withdrew my name from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA...along with great thanks to all those who stepped up and were willing to serve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree: let's get this done. In American terms, this is the Super Bowl of the entire transition for the NCSG. Let's get this right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Amr Elsadr" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:59 PM >>>>>>> To: "matthew shears" >>>>>>> Cc: egmorris1 at toast.net , "pc-ncsg" >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] REMINDER (Re: [council] Call for Volunteers for GNSO Drafting Team) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK?, since I am a candidate for the third spot on this group, maybe I shouldn?t be part of the decision. I?ll leave it up to the rest of you on who the third NCSG member of the DT will be. But if possible, could we have a decision before the weekend starts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would really prefer to address this preemptively on the Council list before somebody else brings it up, which I imagine will happen soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:05 PM, matthew shears > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> + 1 I would also like to see Amr on this given his knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 03/08/2016 16:19, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Edward Morris > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Amr for picking up on this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me withdraw my name from consideration. I would ask, though, that in the transmission to staff it be noted that my name was withdrawn from consideration as I had already been nominated by the NCA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Certainly. If you weren?t nominated by the NCA, I would have opted for you to be an NCSG rep. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Totally agree with Matt and Farzi. I would ask Amr to reconsider his decision as there is no one in the NCSG with a greater knowledge of GNSO policies and procedures than he. I may be breeching protocol here but I think we really need his skills and his experience working with and against Steve Metaltiz and company. If you can't do it Amr, cool, but please know you would be my first choice of all of us. In your absence, either Tapani or Karel would be fine choices as people with GNSO experience. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Appreciate the kind words, but the way I see it, this group specifically requires NC folks with more of a deep understanding of the CCWG recs than GNSO procedures. I will do my best to keep an eye on this DT?s work, even if I am not on it. 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URL: From t.tropina Fri Aug 5 22:32:49 2016 From: t.tropina (Dr. Tatiana Tropina) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:32:49 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and Travel Funding Process for Members In-Reply-To: References: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21199F31@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> <727adc1a-9180-04d8-b625-ade46e17884e@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <767c12ba-47c9-5210-cc01-3b09139bc4a7@mpicc.de> Hi all, I think the deadline was extended till 12th of August, at least there was an email on CCWG list earlier. But I hope our members submitted their requests already. Cheers Tanya On 05/08/16 20:32, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Already pinged Robin on this, and when I last looked at the google > doc, Avri seems to have submitted her application. > > The deadline for this is today. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Stephanie Perrin >> > > wrote: >> >> I trust our members have got their support requests in by this >> deadline of today? >> >> stephanie >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and >> Travel Funding Process for Members >> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 02:36:37 +0000 >> From: Phil Corwin >> To: council at gnso.icann.org >> >> >> >> Fellow Councilors: >> >> I just wanted to make sure that you were all aware that a full day >> meeting of the CCWG on WS2 Accountability issues has been scheduled >> for November 2^nd , the day prior to the official start of ICANN 57. >> My understanding is that the CCWG?s time frame required a full day >> F2F meeting and that this could only be accomplished on that date. >> >> Best to all, Philip >> >> >> >> *Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal* >> *Virtualaw LLC* >> *1155 F Street, NW* >> *Suite 1050* >> *Washington, DC 20004* >> *202-559-8597/Direct* >> *202-559-8750/Fax* >> *202-255-6172/Cell*** >> * * >> *Twitter: @VlawDC* >> >> */"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey/* >> >> *From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Karen Mulberry >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:58 PM >> *To:* CCWG accountability >> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff >> *Subject:* [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Acct Hyderabad Meeting and Travel Funding >> Process for Members >> >> Dear CCWG-Acct , >> >> I wanted to let you know that the November 2nd Face-to-Face meeting >> in Hyderabad the day before ICANN 57 has been confirmed. >> >> A process had been prepared for CCWG appointed members to apply for >> travel funding to attend the meeting that aligns with the CCWG-Acct >> budget for WS2. >> >> The current budgeted amount to support the work of CCWG WS2 members >> allocates support (travel, hotel and per diem) for an amount >> equivalent to 20 appointed members to attend a CCWG-Acct. >> face-to-face meeting in association with an ICANN meeting with >> support for 7 days. The Co-Chairs have the authority to re-allocate >> this amount ? this could include supporting requests for partial >> funding to allow them to maximize the number of members attending >> (e.g. if someone only needs a few additional days of hotel this could >> be acceptable). >> >> You are eligible for travel support from the CCWG if you are an >> officially appointed member of WS2 from a Chartering SO or AC. >> >> Travel support arrangements will follow Constituency Travel >> Guidelines located at: >> https://community.icann.org/display/trvlconstit/Constituency+Travel+Home >> >> The CCWG travel support slots will be allocated as follows: >> >> CCWG Co-Chairs ? 3 slots (or equivalent amount) >> CCWG Appointed Members ? 17 slots (or equivalent amount) >> >> CCWG appointed Members requesting consideration by the Co-Chairs for >> travel support to attend a face-to-face meeting must complete the >> travel request form _three (3) months_ in advance of the date of the >> CCWG face-to-face meeting in order to be considered for funding. >> >> NOTE: In evaluating the applications for travel funding the >> Co-Chairs will consider applicant's attendance to CCWG meetings and >> their contributions to the ongoing work. >> >> CCWG Staff support will send out an announcement regarding the >> application for travel support and deadline for application >> submissions as soon as a face-to-face meeting has been approved. The >> application to request travel support is located at: >> https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw >> >> *_The deadline for applications for travel funding for the Hyderabad >> face-to-face meeting is August 5th 23:59 UTC_*. >> >> CCWG approved members seeking travel support must submit their >> applications by the August 5^th in order to be considered for travel >> support >> >> Completed forms can be sent to Acct-Staff at icann.org >> for submission to the Co-Chairs for >> review and approval. >> >> All applicants for CCWG WS2 travel support will be posted on the CCWG >> WS2 wiki under Travel Support >> at https://community.icann.org/x/qQubAw. Names will be listed under >> Requested and then once approved will be list under approved for >> travel support including the type of support that is approved >> >> The Co-Chairs will review the applications received, including the >> requests for partial support, and determine the list of approved CCWG >> members who will receive travel funding. >> >> The CCWG approved travel support list will be submitted to ICANN >> Constituency Travel for processing according to community travel >> guidelines. >> >> The approved list of funded CCWG members will be posted on the WS2 >> wiki athttps://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Travel+Support >> >> >> /Karen Mulberry/ >> Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives >> ICANN >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7690 / Virus Database: 4627/12704 - Release Date: >> 07/29/16 >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Mon Aug 8 18:27:13 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 11:27:13 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] just checking before the new ggTLD SubPro mtg Message-ID: <0a2fa786-30f2-3c93-d8a3-74685ae68bf2@apc.org> Hi, The extended deadline for the comments on the Community Comments 1 on New gTLD overarching issues was Friday. I assume we did not submit anything. Do we plan to, or should I just indicate NCSG passes on having an opinion on any of these issues? thanks avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From kathy Mon Aug 8 19:33:41 2016 From: kathy (Kathy Kleiman) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:33:41 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] just checking before the new ggTLD SubPro mtg In-Reply-To: <0a2fa786-30f2-3c93-d8a3-74685ae68bf2@apc.org> References: <0a2fa786-30f2-3c93-d8a3-74685ae68bf2@apc.org> Message-ID: <8df01910-f124-3a18-8545-0bff20bb4cb7@kathykleiman.com> Hi Avri, My guess is that we have our attention focused on other issues. As you know, often the members of the NCSG who are in the WG prepare a draft of the comments on issues they think are of concern or interest to the SG. With so many issues involved with the New gTLD Overarching issues, on what issues do you think we should be commenting? Best, Kathy On 8/8/2016 11:27 AM, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > The extended deadline for the comments on the Community Comments 1 on > New gTLD overarching issues was Friday. > > I assume we did not submit anything. Do we plan to, or should I just > indicate NCSG passes on having an opinion on any of these issues? > > thanks > > avri > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From avri Mon Aug 8 20:53:37 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:53:37 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] just checking before the new ggTLD SubPro mtg In-Reply-To: <8df01910-f124-3a18-8545-0bff20bb4cb7@kathykleiman.com> References: <0a2fa786-30f2-3c93-d8a3-74685ae68bf2@apc.org> <8df01910-f124-3a18-8545-0bff20bb4cb7@kathykleiman.com> Message-ID: <44a2541b-844d-af7b-7b1e-8b57450519f3@apc.org> Hi, I do not know where the NCSG is at on the topics, aand as one of the co-chairs for the group do not wish to take on writing the NCSG comment. Though I will contribute to the process as an NCSG member. One issue was brought up today in the discussion of categories for new gTLDs. Robin, who i think is the only NCSG member other than me suggested we should eliminate the community category because it appeared so arbitrary. As a neutral co-chair I did not argue against but, but am strongly against the idea of canceling communities as a category, although I join others in wanting to see it less arbitrary. On the questions asked in the CC1: - do we support thee being more gTLDs, i assume we do - do we support categories, like standard, [commuity], geo, brand, closed generis, regualted and are the application categories of types of contractual condition. - do we support rounds or like the RySG would we like to see it evolve toward FCFS? btw, a prediction from the RySG is that the next rounds will include up to 10-15K application. - what do we think about the balance of predictability vs flexibity? I assume we want to see a balance, but what does that mean to us. - what about community engagement during the application process. Most agree it was rather helter skelter, how should it be managed in the next procedures? - should there be a limitation on the number of gTLDs that can be applied for by one applicant, or during one round? I assume we are anti limit. avri On 08-Aug-16 12:33, Kathy Kleiman wrote: > Hi Avri, > > My guess is that we have our attention focused on other issues. As you > know, often the members of the NCSG who are in the WG prepare a draft > of the comments on issues they think are of concern or interest to the > SG. > > With so many issues involved with the New gTLD Overarching issues, on > what issues do you think we should be commenting? > > Best, Kathy > > > On 8/8/2016 11:27 AM, avri doria wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The extended deadline for the comments on the Community Comments 1 on >> New gTLD overarching issues was Friday. >> >> I assume we did not submit anything. Do we plan to, or should I just >> indicate NCSG passes on having an opinion on any of these issues? >> >> thanks >> >> avri >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From pileleji Mon Aug 8 21:09:04 2016 From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 18:09:04 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] just checking before the new ggTLD SubPro mtg In-Reply-To: <44a2541b-844d-af7b-7b1e-8b57450519f3@apc.org> References: <0a2fa786-30f2-3c93-d8a3-74685ae68bf2@apc.org> <8df01910-f124-3a18-8545-0bff20bb4cb7@kathykleiman.com> <44a2541b-844d-af7b-7b1e-8b57450519f3@apc.org> Message-ID: Good day Avri, Thanks for your comments, I will suggest keeping the community as a category but it should be better well redefined if not its too arbitrary as Robin mentioned from Avri's comment, but can it be well defined? The community engagement, in my opinion there should be a yardstick of defined set objectives of what is really expected from the new gTLDs applicant in terms of community engagement, maybe a scorecard can help on this one, Definitely Anti limit on last bullet point to me. Kind Regards Poncelet On 8 August 2016 at 17:53, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > I do not know where the NCSG is at on the topics, aand as one of the > co-chairs for the group do not wish to take on writing the NCSG > comment. Though I will contribute to the process as an NCSG member. > > One issue was brought up today in the discussion of categories for new > gTLDs. Robin, who i think is the only NCSG member other than me > suggested we should eliminate the community category because it appeared > so arbitrary. As a neutral co-chair I did not argue against but, but am > strongly against the idea of canceling communities as a category, > although I join others in wanting to see it less arbitrary. > > On the questions asked in the CC1: > > - do we support thee being more gTLDs, i assume we do > > - do we support categories, like standard, [commuity], geo, brand, > closed generis, regualted and are the application categories of types of > contractual condition. > > - do we support rounds or like the RySG would we like to see it evolve > toward FCFS? btw, a prediction from the RySG is that the next rounds > will include up to 10-15K application. > > - what do we think about the balance of predictability vs flexibity? I > assume we want to see a balance, but what does that mean to us. > > - what about community engagement during the application process. Most > agree it was rather helter skelter, how should it be managed in the next > procedures? > > - should there be a limitation on the number of gTLDs that can be > applied for by one applicant, or during one round? I assume we are > anti limit. > > > avri > > On 08-Aug-16 12:33, Kathy Kleiman wrote: > > Hi Avri, > > > > My guess is that we have our attention focused on other issues. As you > > know, often the members of the NCSG who are in the WG prepare a draft > > of the comments on issues they think are of concern or interest to the > > SG. > > > > With so many issues involved with the New gTLD Overarching issues, on > > what issues do you think we should be commenting? > > > > Best, Kathy > > > > > > On 8/8/2016 11:27 AM, avri doria wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> The extended deadline for the comments on the Community Comments 1 on > >> New gTLD overarching issues was Friday. > >> > >> I assume we did not submit anything. Do we plan to, or should I just > >> indicate NCSG passes on having an opinion on any of these issues? > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> avri > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PC-NCSG mailing list > >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > -- Poncelet O. 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Steph -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 From: James M. Bladel To: GNSO Council List Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx Councilors - Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN Correspondence page, but expected soon). Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future application process could proceed while policy work continues and be iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be discussed during our next meeting. Thoughts on this approach? Thank you, J. From: Wendy Profit > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 To: James Bladel >, Glen de Saint G?ry >, Marika Konings > Cc: Steve Crocker >, Icann-board ICANN >, board-support >, Akram Atallah >, Erika Randall >, Daniel Halloran >, Eleeza Agopian >, Jamie Hedlund >, Karen Lentz >, Cyrus Namazi >, Cristina Flores > Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council Dear James Bladel, Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New gTLD Correspondence pages: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence With warm regards, Wendy Profit ICANN Board Operations Specialist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 467708 bytes Desc: not available URL: From avri Thu Aug 11 06:24:02 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:24:02 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, - Rushing the gTLD SubPro group is not going to make it go faster. And the Council ought not try to decide to go with new rounds before the process is completed. Registries are pushing for new rounds as soon as possible, but we really ought to work though the process. avri On 10-Aug-16 22:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > fyi, pleased to reflect any views back to James on this matter. > > Steph > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to > James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 > From: James M. Bladel > To: GNSO Council List > > > > Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx > Councilors - > > Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the > Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per > Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN > Correspondence page, but expected soon). > > Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: > > > > /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it > would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the > entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed > prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy > recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to > provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are > still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if > any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future > application process could proceed while policy work continues and be > iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a > set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a > new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ > > /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time > frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points > the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support > the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ > > I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to > our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine > ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is > amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, > acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be > discussed during our next meeting. > > Thoughts on this approach? > > Thank you, > > J. > > > > > From: Wendy Profit > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 > To: James Bladel >, > Glen de Saint G?ry >, Marika Konings > > > Cc: Steve Crocker >, Icann-board ICANN > >, board-support > >, Akram > Atallah >, > Erika Randall >, Daniel Halloran > >, Eleeza > Agopian >, > Jamie Hedlund >, Karen Lentz >, Cyrus Namazi >, Cristina Flores > > > Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, > Chair, GNSO Council > > Dear James Bladel, > > > > Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board > of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. > > > > The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New > gTLD Correspondence pages: > > > > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence > > https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence > > > > With warm regards, > > > > Wendy Profit > > ICANN Board Operations Specialist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From egmorris1 Thu Aug 11 09:59:37 2016 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:59:37 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62C90D28-B463-4F77-A455-E89770206A3F@toast.net> I am in total agreement with Avri on this matter. Not much else I can add. She has concisely said it all. Ed Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Aug 2016, at 04:24, avri doria wrote: > > Hi, > > - Rushing the gTLD SubPro group is not going to make it go faster. > > And the Council ought not try to decide to go with new rounds before the > process is completed. > > Registries are pushing for new rounds as soon as possible, but we really > ought to work though the process. > > > avri > >> On 10-Aug-16 22:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> >> fyi, pleased to reflect any views back to James on this matter. >> >> Steph >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to >> James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council >> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 >> From: James M. Bladel >> To: GNSO Council List >> >> >> >> Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx >> Councilors - >> >> Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the >> Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per >> Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN >> Correspondence page, but expected soon). >> >> Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: >> >> >> >> /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it >> would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the >> entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed >> prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy >> recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to >> provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are >> still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if >> any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future >> application process could proceed while policy work continues and be >> iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a >> set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a >> new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ >> >> /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time >> frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points >> the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support >> the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ >> >> I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to >> our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine >> ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is >> amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, >> acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be >> discussed during our next meeting. >> >> Thoughts on this approach? >> >> Thank you, >> >> J. >> >> >> >> >> From: Wendy Profit > > >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 >> To: James Bladel >, >> Glen de Saint G?ry > >, Marika Konings >> > >> Cc: Steve Crocker > >, Icann-board ICANN >> >, board-support >> >, Akram >> Atallah >, >> Erika Randall > >, Daniel Halloran >> >, Eleeza >> Agopian >, >> Jamie Hedlund > >, Karen Lentz > >, Cyrus Namazi > >, Cristina Flores >> > >> Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, >> Chair, GNSO Council >> >> Dear James Bladel, >> >> >> >> Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board >> of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. >> >> >> >> The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New >> gTLD Correspondence pages: >> >> >> >> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence >> >> https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence >> >> >> >> With warm regards, >> >> >> >> Wendy Profit >> >> ICANN Board Operations Specialist >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From stephanie.perrin Thu Aug 11 17:27:57 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:27:57 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <091107a9-91ea-0fd6-6842-97d7d78dd579@mail.utoronto.ca> Understood. Hints on how to word that in the most conciliatory way appreciated. How about: It is the view of the NCSG that rushing the gTLD SubPro group will not help it to go faster, and may undermine the process. We should not proceed with new rounds before the review process is complete. cheers SP On 2016-08-10 23:24, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > - Rushing the gTLD SubPro group is not going to make it go faster. > > And the Council ought not try to decide to go with new rounds before the > process is completed. > > Registries are pushing for new rounds as soon as possible, but we really > ought to work though the process. > > > avri > > On 10-Aug-16 22:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> fyi, pleased to reflect any views back to James on this matter. >> >> Steph >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to >> James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council >> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 >> From: James M. Bladel >> To: GNSO Council List >> >> >> >> Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx >> Councilors - >> >> Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the >> Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per >> Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN >> Correspondence page, but expected soon). >> >> Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: >> >> >> >> /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it >> would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the >> entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed >> prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy >> recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to >> provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are >> still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if >> any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future >> application process could proceed while policy work continues and be >> iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a >> set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a >> new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ >> >> /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time >> frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points >> the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support >> the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ >> >> I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to >> our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine >> ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is >> amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, >> acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be >> discussed during our next meeting. >> >> Thoughts on this approach? >> >> Thank you, >> >> J. >> >> >> >> >> From: Wendy Profit > > >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 >> To: James Bladel >, >> Glen de Saint G?ry > >, Marika Konings >> > >> Cc: Steve Crocker > >, Icann-board ICANN >> >, board-support >> >, Akram >> Atallah >, >> Erika Randall > >, Daniel Halloran >> >, Eleeza >> Agopian >, >> Jamie Hedlund > >, Karen Lentz > >, Cyrus Namazi > >, Cristina Flores >> > >> Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, >> Chair, GNSO Council >> >> Dear James Bladel, >> >> >> >> Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board >> of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. >> >> >> >> The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New >> gTLD Correspondence pages: >> >> >> >> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence >> >> https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence >> >> >> >> With warm regards, >> >> >> >> Wendy Profit >> >> ICANN Board Operations Specialist >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Thu Aug 11 17:51:11 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:51:11 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: <091107a9-91ea-0fd6-6842-97d7d78dd579@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <091107a9-91ea-0fd6-6842-97d7d78dd579@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <35a73096-2079-d970-1670-4a9a6ecda8bf@apc.org> Hi, Recommend one change, We should not proceed with new rounds before the review process and the PDP are completed. thnaks avri On 11-Aug-16 10:27, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > Understood. Hints on how to word that in the most conciliatory way > appreciated. How about: It is the view of the NCSG that rushing the > gTLD SubPro group will not help it to go faster, and may undermine the > process. We should not proceed with new rounds before the review > process is complete. > > cheers SP > > > On 2016-08-10 23:24, avri doria wrote: >> Hi, >> >> - Rushing the gTLD SubPro group is not going to make it go faster. >> >> And the Council ought not try to decide to go with new rounds before the >> process is completed. >> >> Registries are pushing for new rounds as soon as possible, but we really >> ought to work though the process. >> >> >> avri >> >> On 10-Aug-16 22:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>> fyi, pleased to reflect any views back to James on this matter. >>> >>> Steph >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to >>> James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council >>> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 >>> From: James M. Bladel >>> To: GNSO Council List >>> >>> >>> >>> Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx >>> Councilors - >>> >>> Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the >>> Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per >>> Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN >>> Correspondence page, but expected soon). >>> >>> Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: >>> >>> >>> >>> /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it >>> would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the >>> entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed >>> prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy >>> recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to >>> provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are >>> still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if >>> any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future >>> application process could proceed while policy work continues and be >>> iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a >>> set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a >>> new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ >>> >>> /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time >>> frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points >>> the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support >>> the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ >>> >>> I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to >>> our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine >>> ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is >>> amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, >>> acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be >>> discussed during our next meeting. >>> >>> Thoughts on this approach? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> J. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Wendy Profit >> > >>> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 >>> To: James Bladel >, >>> Glen de Saint G?ry >> >, Marika Konings >>> > >>> Cc: Steve Crocker >> >, Icann-board ICANN >>> >, board-support >>> >, Akram >>> Atallah >, >>> Erika Randall >> >, Daniel Halloran >>> >, Eleeza >>> Agopian >, >>> Jamie Hedlund >> >, Karen Lentz >> >, Cyrus Namazi >> >, Cristina Flores >>> > >>> Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, >>> Chair, GNSO Council >>> >>> Dear James Bladel, >>> >>> >>> >>> Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board >>> of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. >>> >>> >>> >>> The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New >>> gTLD Correspondence pages: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence >>> >>> https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence >>> >>> >>> >>> With warm regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Wendy Profit >>> >>> ICANN Board Operations Specialist >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From lanfran Thu Aug 11 18:38:05 2016 From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:38:05 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: <35a73096-2079-d970-1670-4a9a6ecda8bf@apc.org> References: <091107a9-91ea-0fd6-6842-97d7d78dd579@mail.utoronto.ca> <35a73096-2079-d970-1670-4a9a6ecda8bf@apc.org> Message-ID: <57AC9BDD.8000806@yorku.ca> I think that the wise strategy here is to simply make one point, leave it at that, and repeat the one point as often as necessary. Just Avri's wording: /We should not proceed with new rounds before the review process and the PDP are completed./ in my humble strategic opinion. This is one of those situations where, polite or not, "No means No!" needs to be understood. Sam L., On 2016-08-11 10:51 AM, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > Recommend one change, > > We should not proceed with new rounds before the review process and the > PDP are completed. > > thanks > > avri > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don?t think that > ?a set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a new application process? is going to cut it. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Edward Morris wrote: > > I am in total agreement with Avri on this matter. Not much else I can add. She has concisely said it all. > > Ed > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 11 Aug 2016, at 04:24, avri doria wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> - Rushing the gTLD SubPro group is not going to make it go faster. >> >> And the Council ought not try to decide to go with new rounds before the >> process is completed. >> >> Registries are pushing for new rounds as soon as possible, but we really >> ought to work though the process. >> >> >> avri >> >>> On 10-Aug-16 22:38, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>> >>> fyi, pleased to reflect any views back to James on this matter. >>> >>> Steph >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to >>> James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council >>> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 23:13:02 +0000 >>> From: James M. Bladel >>> To: GNSO Council List >>> >>> >>> >>> Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx >>> Councilors - >>> >>> Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the >>> Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per >>> Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN >>> Correspondence page, but expected soon). >>> >>> Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: >>> >>> >>> >>> /?For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it >>> would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the >>> entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed >>> prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy >>> recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to >>> provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are >>> still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if >>> any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future >>> application process could proceed while policy work continues and be >>> iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a >>> set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a >>> new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ >>> >>> /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time >>> frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points >>> the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support >>> the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ >>> >>> I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to >>> our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine >>> ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is >>> amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, >>> acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be >>> discussed during our next meeting. >>> >>> Thoughts on this approach? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> J. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Wendy Profit >> > >>> Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 >>> To: James Bladel >, >>> Glen de Saint G?ry >> >, Marika Konings >>> > >>> Cc: Steve Crocker >> >, Icann-board ICANN >>> >, board-support >>> >, Akram >>> Atallah >, >>> Erika Randall >> >, Daniel Halloran >>> >, Eleeza >>> Agopian >, >>> Jamie Hedlund >> >, Karen Lentz >> >, Cyrus Namazi >> >, Cristina Flores >>> > >>> Subject: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, >>> Chair, GNSO Council >>> >>> Dear James Bladel, >>> >>> >>> >>> Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board >>> of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. >>> >>> >>> >>> The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New >>> gTLD Correspondence pages: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence >>> >>> https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence >>> >>> >>> >>> With warm regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Wendy Profit >>> >>> ICANN Board Operations Specialist >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From aelsadr Fri Aug 12 15:33:55 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:33:55 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] CORRECTION (Re: FOR REVIEW: Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws) References: <84AF3B05-839F-45C9-90B7-E1D8088E646B@icann.org> Message-ID: Hi, Following up on the GNSO DT composition. Thanks to everyone for getting this done. Amr > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mary Wong > Subject: [council] CORRECTION (Re: FOR REVIEW: Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws) > Date: August 5, 2016 at 8:52:44 PM GMT+2 > To: Amr Elsadr > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > Dear all, > > Please accept my apologies for inadvertently missing out Ed Morris? name from the list of DT members due to a lousy cut-and-paste effort on my part. The corrected list should read as follows: > > Registries: > ? David Maher > Registrars: > ? Darcy Southwell > Business Constituency: > ? Steve DelBianco > IPC: > ? Steve Metalitz > ISPCPC: > ? Malcolm Hutty > NCSG: > ? Farzaneh Badii > ? Amr Elsadr > ? Matthew Shears > > NCA Nominee: > ? Ed Morris > > Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience and any confusion, > Mary > > > > From: > on behalf of Mary Wong > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:39 > To: Amr Elsadr > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org " > > Subject: FOR REVIEW: Re: [council] Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws > > Thanks very much, Amr. Councilors, please send any comments you may have on the composition of the Drafting Team to this list at your earliest convenience. Given the rather tight timeline that this DT will be working under, staff plans to contact the following nominated DT members to set up their first organizational call next week, so please let us know if you have reservations about our proceeding with this proposal as well. > > The nominated DT members are: > Registries: > ? David Maher > > Registrars: > ? Darcy Southwell > > Business Constituency: > ? Steve DelBianco > > IPC: > ? Steve Metalitz > > ISPCPC: > ? Malcolm Hutty > > NCSG: > ? Farzaneh Badii > ? Amr Elsadr > ? Matthew Shears > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Email: mary.wong at icann.org > Telephone: +1-603-5744889 > > > > From: Amr Elsadr > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:42 > To: Mary Wong > > Cc: "council at gnso.icann.org " > > Subject: Re: [council] Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws > > Hi, > > I also wanted to follow up on this. Considering the number of DT members submitted by each of the SGs/Cs, and in order to maintain balanced representation on this group (to reflect the representation on Council), the NCSG has revisited our list of members on the DT, and would like to shorten it a bit. > > The updated list of NCSG members we would like appointed to the DT is as follows: > > 1. Matthew Shears > 2. Farzaneh Badii > 3. Amr Elsadr > > However, the NCSG has made this selection under the assumption that Edward Morris will remain a member of the DT, having been selected by the NCPH NCA. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Mary Wong > wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> Please note that the BC has named Steve Del Bianco as its representative to the Drafting Team, so staff will add his name to the list circulated previously (see below). >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> From: Mary Wong > >> Date: Friday, July 29, 2016 at 16:59 >> To: "council at gnso.icann.org " > >> Subject: Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws >> >> Dear Councilors, >> >> On 30 June, the Council passed a resolution creating a new Drafting Team (DT) to work with staff to: >> (1) identify the GNSO?s new and additional rights, powers, obligations and responsibilities under the revised Bylaws; >> (2) develop and deliver a draft Implementation Plan to the Council by 30 September 2016; and >> (3) as necessary, develop new or propose modifications to existing procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. >> >> The Council?s resolution further states that volunteers be those who ?can demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures? and that the DT ?shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO Council may review the number of volunteers identified?:http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#20160630-2 . >> >> Staff has received the following names from most SG/Cs. We expect to receive the name(s) of the BC representative(s) soon, and we understand that the NCSG Policy Committee is currently discussing which of their volunteers will constitute their final slate. >> >> In view of the Council?s discretion with regard to reviewing the DT?s numbers and composition, please feel free to send your comments to this list. We hope to begin working with the final slate of DT members shortly. >> >> gTLD Registries Stakeholder Group: >> ? David Maher >> Registrars Stakeholder Group: >> ? Darcy Southwell >> Business Constituency: TBD >> IPC: >> ? Steve Metalitz >> ISPCPC: >> ? Malcolm Hutty >> NCSG: >> ? Edward Morris (also nominated by NCA Julf Helsingius) >> ? Tapani Tarvainen >> ? Farzaneh Bardii >> ? Amr Elsadr >> ? Matthew Shears >> ? Wisdom Donkor >> ? Sonigitu Ekpe >> ? Pascal Bekono >> ? Karel Douglas >> >> Thanks and cheers >> Mary >> >> >> Mary Wong >> Senior Policy Director >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >> Email: mary.wong at icann.org >> Telephone: +1-603-5744889 >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pileleji Fri Aug 12 15:28:17 2016 From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:28:17 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] CORRECTION (Re: FOR REVIEW: Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws) In-Reply-To: References: <84AF3B05-839F-45C9-90B7-E1D8088E646B@icann.org> Message-ID: Thanks Amr, Much appreciated on the updates. Kind Regards Poncelet On 12 August 2016 at 12:33, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > Following up on the GNSO DT composition. > > Thanks to everyone for getting this done. > > Amr > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Mary Wong > *Subject: **[council] CORRECTION (Re: FOR REVIEW: Update on SG/C > volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under > the revised ICANN Bylaws)* > *Date: *August 5, 2016 at 8:52:44 PM GMT+2 > *To: *Amr Elsadr > *Cc: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > > Dear all, > > Please accept my apologies for inadvertently missing out Ed Morris? name > from the list of DT members due to a lousy cut-and-paste effort on my part. > The corrected list should read as follows: > > Registries: > ? David Maher > Registrars: > ? Darcy Southwell > Business Constituency: > ? Steve DelBianco > IPC: > ? Steve Metalitz > ISPCPC: > ? Malcolm Hutty > NCSG: > ? Farzaneh Badii > ? Amr Elsadr > ? Matthew Shears > > NCA Nominee: > ? Ed Morris > > Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience and any confusion, > Mary > > > > *From: * on behalf of Mary Wong < > mary.wong at icann.org> > *Date: *Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:39 > *To: *Amr Elsadr > *Cc: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > *Subject: *FOR REVIEW: Re: [council] Update on SG/C volunteers for the > Drafting Team on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN > Bylaws > > Thanks very much, Amr. Councilors, please send any comments you may have > on the composition of the Drafting Team to this list at your earliest > convenience. Given the rather tight timeline that this DT will be working > under, staff plans to contact the following nominated DT members to set up > their first organizational call next week, so please let us know if you > have reservations about our proceeding with this proposal as well. > > The nominated DT members are: > *Registries*: > ? David Maher > > *Registrars*: > ? Darcy Southwell > > *Business Constituency*: > ? Steve DelBianco > > *IPC*: > ? Steve Metalitz > > *ISPCPC*: > ? Malcolm Hutty > > *NCSG*: > ? Farzaneh Badii > ? Amr Elsadr > ? Matthew Shears > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Email: mary.wong at icann.org > Telephone: +1-603-5744889 > > > > *From: *Amr Elsadr > *Date: *Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:42 > *To: *Mary Wong > *Cc: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > *Subject: *Re: [council] Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team > on new GNSO rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws > > Hi, > > I also wanted to follow up on this. Considering the number of DT members > submitted by each of the SGs/Cs, and in order to maintain balanced > representation on this group (to reflect the representation on Council), > the NCSG has revisited our list of members on the DT, and would like to > shorten it a bit. > > The updated list of NCSG members we would like appointed to the DT is as > follows: > > 1. Matthew Shears > 2. Farzaneh Badii > 3. Amr Elsadr > > However, the NCSG has made this selection under the assumption that Edward > Morris will remain a member of the DT, having been selected by the NCPH NCA. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > > On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Mary Wong wrote: > > Dear all, > > Please note that the BC has named Steve Del Bianco as its representative > to the Drafting Team, so staff will add his name to the list circulated > previously (see below). > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > *From: *Mary Wong > *Date: *Friday, July 29, 2016 at 16:59 > *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > *Subject: *Update on SG/C volunteers for the Drafting Team on new GNSO > rights and obligations under the revised ICANN Bylaws > > Dear Councilors, > > On 30 June, the Council passed a resolution creating a new Drafting Team > (DT) to work with staff to: > (1) identify the GNSO?s new and additional rights, powers, obligations and > responsibilities under the revised Bylaws; > (2) develop and deliver a draft Implementation Plan to the Council by 30 > September 2016; and > (3) as necessary, develop new or propose modifications to existing > procedures and structures to implement the revised Bylaws for the GNSO. > > The Council?s resolution further states that volunteers be those who ?can > demonstrate reasonable knowledge of or experience with the process of > revising the ICANN Bylaws or GNSO Operating Procedures? and that the DT > ?shall reflect the current composition of the GNSO and as such, the GNSO > Council may review the number of volunteers identified?:http://gnso.icann. > org/en/council/resolutions#20160630-2. > > Staff has received the following names from most SG/Cs. We expect to > receive the name(s) of the BC representative(s) soon, and we understand > that the NCSG Policy Committee is currently discussing which of their > volunteers will constitute their final slate. > > In view of the Council?s discretion with regard to reviewing the DT?s > numbers and composition, please feel free to send your comments to this > list. We hope to begin working with the final slate of DT members shortly. > > gTLD Registries Stakeholder Group: > ? David Maher > Registrars Stakeholder Group: > ? Darcy Southwell > Business Constituency: TBD > IPC: > ? Steve Metalitz > ISPCPC: > ? Malcolm Hutty > NCSG: > ? Edward Morris (also nominated by NCA Julf Helsingius) > ? Tapani Tarvainen > ? Farzaneh Bardii > ? Amr Elsadr > ? Matthew Shears > ? Wisdom Donkor > ? Sonigitu Ekpe > ? Pascal Bekono > ? Karel Douglas > > Thanks and cheers > Mary > > > Mary Wong > Senior Policy Director > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > Email: mary.wong at icann.org > Telephone: +1-603-5744889 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ www.waigf.org www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Amr From robin Fri Aug 12 17:29:39 2016 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:29:39 -0700 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments Message-ID: <592998B2-7869-4430-BC54-BE892A063904@ipjustice.org> All, The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. Thanks, Robin ====================================================== CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) The duties of members are to 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments CHAIR STRUCTURE A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know when the board made the decision this letter was based on? avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From t.tropina Mon Aug 15 17:43:47 2016 From: t.tropina (Dr. Tatiana Tropina) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:43:47 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Public Comment on Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels Message-ID: <26e87640-e5e5-27d7-81e6-9fc1004806b8@mpicc.de> Dear all, Here in the attached document comes yet another request to endorse pubic comments on behalf of NCSG. This time it's public comments on on Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels. Some of you might have seen on the NCSG mailing list that it was again Farzaneh who took the initiative and drafted the first set of comments, then as far as I understand Ed, Milton, Michael and other members went through the document and commented/edited it. What we have now might be further tidied up by Matt before the submission, but I would appreciate if PC can endorse this in principle. The deadline is on Wednesday, so please let me know as soon as possible whether you are fine with submitting this as NCSG comments. Again, apologies for the tough time frame - but I very much appreciate that Farzi and other guys are taking the lead on this and submitting the comments, let's support them with our endorsements (if you are comfortable with the document, of course - if not, let's fine-tune it). Thanks a million! best Tanya -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some of > you might have seen on the NCSG mailing list that it was again Farzaneh > who took the initiative and drafted the first set of comments, then as > far as I understand Ed, Milton, Michael and other members went through > the document and commented/edited it. What we have now might be further > tidied up by Matt before the submission, but I would appreciate if PC > can endorse this in principle. The deadline is on Wednesday, so please > let me know as soon as possible whether you are fine with submitting > this as NCSG comments. > > Again, apologies for the tough time frame - but I very much appreciate > that Farzi and other guys are taking the lead on this and submitting the > comments, let's support them with our endorsements (if you are > comfortable with the document, of course - if not, let's fine-tune it). > > Thanks a million! > > best > > Tanya > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From aelsadr Mon Aug 15 21:25:09 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:25:09 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Public Comment on Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels In-Reply-To: <07178857-f3f9-078b-ac8d-ce6844454f56@apc.org> References: <26e87640-e5e5-27d7-81e6-9fc1004806b8@mpicc.de> <07178857-f3f9-078b-ac8d-ce6844454f56@apc.org> Message-ID: <155EEECD-A158-4765-8FDA-C594E69744C6@egyptig.org> Hi, > On Aug 15, 2016, at 7:02 PM, avri doria wrote: > > as an observer i recommend support for this doc. > As do I, but as a member of the PC. 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Ed Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Aug 2016, at 08:22, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: > > Thanks Amr and Avri, > > dear all, just a reminder - the deadline for submission is tomorrow, sorry for being pushy but it will be sad if we miss it, so please do submit either a comment or/and endorsement. > > Warm regards > > Tanya > >> On 15/08/16 20:25, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > On Aug 15, 2016, at 7:02 PM, avri doria wrote: >> > >> > as an observer i recommend support for this doc. >> > >> >> As do I, but as a member of the PC. This is a great comment. 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On 16/08/2016 08:59, Edward Morris wrote: > Hi Tatiana, > > I like pushy! > > Obviously I did a very small bit of work on this earlier, like it very > much, endorse it and want to thank Farzi for her tremendous work in > producing it. > > Thanks Farzi! > > Fully endorsed. > > Ed > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16 Aug 2016, at 08:22, Dr. Tatiana Tropina > wrote: > >> Thanks Amr and Avri, >> >> dear all, just a reminder - the deadline for submission is tomorrow, >> sorry for being pushy but it will be sad if we miss it, so please do >> submit either a comment or/and endorsement. >> >> Warm regards >> >> Tanya >> >> >> On 15/08/16 20:25, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> > On Aug 15, 2016, at 7:02 PM, avri doria wrote: >>> > >>> > as an observer i recommend support for this doc. >>> > >>> >>> As do I, but as a member of the PC. This is a great comment. I?ve >>> attached a copy in which I only corrected what GAC is short for. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is a great comment. I?ve attached a copy in which I only corrected what GAC is short for. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg ************************************************************* William J. 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On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:17 AM, William Drake wrote: > my vote doesn?t ?count? but think it?s good > > bd > > On Aug 16, 2016, at 10:15, matthew shears wrote: > > Endorse and thanks Farzi! > > On 16/08/2016 08:59, Edward Morris wrote: > > Hi Tatiana, > > I like pushy! > > Obviously I did a very small bit of work on this earlier, like it very > much, endorse it and want to thank Farzi for her tremendous work in > producing it. > > Thanks Farzi! > > Fully endorsed. > > Ed > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16 Aug 2016, at 08:22, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: > > Thanks Amr and Avri, > > dear all, just a reminder - the deadline for submission is tomorrow, sorry > for being pushy but it will be sad if we miss it, so please do submit > either a comment or/and endorsement. > > Warm regards > > Tanya > > On 15/08/16 20:25, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Hi, > > > On Aug 15, 2016, at 7:02 PM, avri doria > wrote: > > > > as an observer i recommend support for this doc. > > > > As do I, but as a member of the PC. This is a great comment. I?ve attached > a copy in which I only corrected what GAC is short for. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing listPC-NCSG at ipjustice.orghttp://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > -- > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)+ 44 771 2472987 > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > ************************************************************* > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), > www.williamdrake.org > *The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections* > New book at http://amzn.to/22hWZxC > ************************************************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Farzi. > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:17 AM, William Drake > wrote: > my vote doesn?t ?count? but think it?s good > > bd > >> On Aug 16, 2016, at 10:15, matthew shears > wrote: >> >> Endorse and thanks Farzi! >> >> On 16/08/2016 08:59, Edward Morris wrote: >>> Hi Tatiana, >>> >>> I like pushy! >>> >>> Obviously I did a very small bit of work on this earlier, like it very much, endorse it and want to thank Farzi for her tremendous work in producing it. >>> >>> Thanks Farzi! >>> >>> Fully endorsed. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 16 Aug 2016, at 08:22, Dr. Tatiana Tropina > wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Amr and Avri, >>>> >>>> dear all, just a reminder - the deadline for submission is tomorrow, sorry for being pushy but it will be sad if we miss it, so please do submit either a comment or/and endorsement. >>>> >>>> Warm regards >>>> >>>> Tanya >>>> >>>> On 15/08/16 20:25, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 15, 2016, at 7:02 PM, avri doria wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > as an observer i recommend support for this doc. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> As do I, but as a member of the PC. This is a great comment. I?ve attached a copy in which I only corrected what GAC is short for. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> -- >> -------------- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 771 2472987 _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > ************************************************************* > William J. 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Marilia, Matthew and David ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marilia Maciel Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM Subject: Call for expressions of interest - CCWG Internet Governance To: NCSG List Dear colleagues Bill Drake, our current member on the CCWG-Internet Governance (CCWG-IG) has, unfortunately, decided to step down. We want to thank Bill for his tireless engagement in the WG and hope that he will remain involved in its work and continue to guide our community's engagement in Internet governance work. We *urgently* need to find a replacement for Bill. We have had some expressions of interest but we welcome additional expressions of interest from the community. Please note that the NCSG PC will be evaluating the candidates according to the following: - Overall engagement in NCSG policy-related work and with the community more broadly - Internet Governance experience (inside AND outside ICANN) - Experience with CCWGs. Those who are interested should also state why they would like to represent NCSG's interests in the CCWG IG (2 paragraphs max). A commitment to materially and consistently contribute to the WG and to communicating on a regular basis with NCSG as to the work of the WG *is essential*. Timeline: Please send expressions of interest to the NCSG list *by 23.59 UTC August 4*. A decision will be communicated to the community at the latest by 23.29 UTC Aug 8. Thank you. Marilia, Matthew and David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue Aug 16 15:12:50 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:12:50 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Please vote: CCWG Internet Governance replacement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B2B820B-B4CC-49E0-9BC4-F09B8565330E@egyptig.org> Hi, I am just wondering if there is a reason why we?re using ballots to vote for a rep on this CCWG. Don?t we usually try to make decisions using rough consensus as opposed to voting? Thanks. Amr > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote: > > Dear members of the PC, > > You should have received a ballot that will allow you to vote on a candidate for our replacement on the CCWG-IG. Please, follow the instructions and cast your vote until 18/08. In case you do not see the ballot, please check you spam box for an e-mail sent by "tally at icann.org " and contact me if you really did not receive it. > > Lastly, we apologize for the delay on the schedule for choosing our replacement, due to summer break and vacations. > > Thank you! > Marilia, Matthew and David > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marilia Maciel > > Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM > Subject: Call for expressions of interest - CCWG Internet Governance > To: NCSG List > > > > Dear colleagues > > Bill Drake, our current member on the CCWG-Internet Governance (CCWG-IG) has, unfortunately, decided to step down. We want to thank Bill for his tireless engagement in the WG and hope that he will remain involved in its work and continue to guide our community's engagement in Internet governance work. > > We urgently need to find a replacement for Bill. We have had some expressions of interest but we welcome additional expressions of interest from the community. > > Please note that the NCSG PC will be evaluating the candidates according to the following: > > Overall engagement in NCSG policy-related work and with the community more broadly > Internet Governance experience (inside AND outside ICANN) > Experience with CCWGs. > Those who are interested should also state why they would like to represent NCSG's interests in the CCWG IG (2 paragraphs max). A commitment to materially and consistently contribute to the WG and to communicating on a regular basis with NCSG as to the work of the WG is essential. > Timeline: > > Please send expressions of interest to the NCSG list by 23.59 UTC August 4. A decision will be communicated to the community at the latest by 23.29 UTC Aug 8. > Thank you. > > Marilia, Matthew and David > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mariliamaciel Tue Aug 16 16:37:16 2016 From: mariliamaciel (Marilia Maciel) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:37:16 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Please vote: CCWG Internet Governance replacement In-Reply-To: <1B2B820B-B4CC-49E0-9BC4-F09B8565330E@egyptig.org> References: <1B2B820B-B4CC-49E0-9BC4-F09B8565330E@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Hi Amr, I am responding with my personal views, so Matt and David may jump in later. I dont think that the voting in any way precludes the free discussion that leads to rough consensus. The statements of interest were posted on the list, so was the e-mail with a timeline of the process. However, no engagement on issues of method or substance followed, and we needed to have a way to close the issue. We sought a solution to perform the selection process and we initially had in mind something more informal than a ballot sent from tally.icann. However, since the PC has no separate channel for communication, such as the GNSO council has, things get a bit harder. We had some staff members on vacations and the easiest solution for those that were on duty was to send a ballot. I think in the end it was an efficient way. Please, do share your comments and suggestions, so we can improve the process for the next time. All the best, Marilia On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > I am just wondering if there is a reason why we?re using ballots to vote > for a rep on this CCWG. Don?t we usually try to make decisions using rough > consensus as opposed to voting? > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: > > Dear members of the PC, > > You should have received a ballot that will allow you to vote on a > candidate for our replacement on the CCWG-IG. Please, follow the > instructions and cast your vote until 18/08. In case you do not see the > ballot, please check you spam box for an e-mail sent by "tally at icann.org" > and contact me if you really did not receive it. > > Lastly, we apologize for the delay on the schedule for choosing our > replacement, due to summer break and vacations. > > Thank you! > Marilia, Matthew and David > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marilia Maciel > Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM > Subject: Call for expressions of interest - CCWG Internet Governance > To: NCSG List > > > Dear colleagues > > Bill Drake, our current member on the CCWG-Internet Governance (CCWG-IG) > has, unfortunately, decided to step down. We want to thank Bill for his > tireless engagement in the WG and hope that he will remain involved in its > work and continue to guide our community's engagement in Internet > governance work. > > We *urgently* need to find a replacement for Bill. We have had some > expressions of interest but we welcome additional expressions of interest > from the community. > > Please note that the NCSG PC will be evaluating the candidates according > to the following: > > - Overall engagement in NCSG policy-related work and with the > community more broadly > - Internet Governance experience (inside AND outside ICANN) > - Experience with CCWGs. > > Those who are interested should also state why they would like to > represent NCSG's interests in the CCWG IG (2 paragraphs max). A commitment > to materially and consistently contribute to the WG and to communicating on > a regular basis with NCSG as to the work of the WG *is essential*. > > Timeline: > > Please send expressions of interest to the NCSG list *by 23.59 UTC August > 4*. A decision will be communicated to the community at the latest by 23.29 > UTC Aug 8. > Thank you. > > Marilia, Matthew and David > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue Aug 16 17:09:21 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:09:21 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Please vote: CCWG Internet Governance replacement In-Reply-To: References: <1B2B820B-B4CC-49E0-9BC4-F09B8565330E@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Hi Marilia, Thanks for explaining this to me. To be clear, I am not objecting, but was just wondering as this just seemed unusual?, or just not how we?ve done it in the past. Also agree that a ballot does not prevent us from achieving consensus, but this needs to be clear to the PC members. For example, we have 11 PC members. If any given vote is split 6 to 5 (for example), then this would obviously not count as rough consensus. Another question I have on this is whether the results of the cast ballots will be made public. I would argue that they should be. In fact, using ballots in that sense may not be such a bad thing, as it could also serve as a resource to the benefit of the NCSG membership, if they would choose to check up on how different PC members vote. Thanks again. Amr > On Aug 16, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote: > > Hi Amr, > I am responding with my personal views, so Matt and David may jump in later. I dont think that the voting in any way precludes the free discussion that leads to rough consensus. The statements of interest were posted on the list, so was the e-mail with a timeline of the process. However, no engagement on issues of method or substance followed, and we needed to have a way to close the issue. > > We sought a solution to perform the selection process and we initially had in mind something more informal than a ballot sent from tally.icann. However, since the PC has no separate channel for communication, such as the GNSO council has, things get a bit harder. We had some staff members on vacations and the easiest solution for those that were on duty was to send a ballot. I think in the end it was an efficient way. > > Please, do share your comments and suggestions, so we can improve the process for the next time. > All the best, > Marilia > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > Hi, > > I am just wondering if there is a reason why we?re using ballots to vote for a rep on this CCWG. Don?t we usually try to make decisions using rough consensus as opposed to voting? > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: >> >> Dear members of the PC, >> >> You should have received a ballot that will allow you to vote on a candidate for our replacement on the CCWG-IG. Please, follow the instructions and cast your vote until 18/08. In case you do not see the ballot, please check you spam box for an e-mail sent by "tally at icann.org " and contact me if you really did not receive it. >> >> Lastly, we apologize for the delay on the schedule for choosing our replacement, due to summer break and vacations. >> >> Thank you! >> Marilia, Matthew and David >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Marilia Maciel > >> Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM >> Subject: Call for expressions of interest - CCWG Internet Governance >> To: NCSG List > >> >> >> Dear colleagues >> >> Bill Drake, our current member on the CCWG-Internet Governance (CCWG-IG) has, unfortunately, decided to step down. We want to thank Bill for his tireless engagement in the WG and hope that he will remain involved in its work and continue to guide our community's engagement in Internet governance work. >> >> We urgently need to find a replacement for Bill. We have had some expressions of interest but we welcome additional expressions of interest from the community. >> >> Please note that the NCSG PC will be evaluating the candidates according to the following: >> >> Overall engagement in NCSG policy-related work and with the community more broadly >> Internet Governance experience (inside AND outside ICANN) >> Experience with CCWGs. >> Those who are interested should also state why they would like to represent NCSG's interests in the CCWG IG (2 paragraphs max). A commitment to materially and consistently contribute to the WG and to communicating on a regular basis with NCSG as to the work of the WG is essential. >> Timeline: >> >> Please send expressions of interest to the NCSG list by 23.59 UTC August 4. A decision will be communicated to the community at the latest by 23.29 UTC Aug 8. >> Thank you. >> >> Marilia, Matthew and David >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg Tue Aug 16 17:19:01 2016 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 17:19:01 +0300 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Please vote: CCWG Internet Governance replacement In-Reply-To: References: <1B2B820B-B4CC-49E0-9BC4-F09B8565330E@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <20160816141901.GB26046@tarvainen.info> Hi Amr, You make good points. Without taking a strong stand otherwise, I definitely agree that the questions you raise should be decided before voting ends. So: (1) What's the treshold for election? As I see it, simple majority would be acceptable *if* that has been decided on in advance by normal rough consensus process. Arguably that is the case here, but it should be stated explicitly to make sure any disagreeing voices are heard. For the record, I would be fine with that. (2) Will the votes be made public? I don't recall seeing any opinion on this before Amr's, but I expect most people have been assuming no, which would mean there's no full consensus. I'm not sure where I'd stand here, I'd like to hear other opinions before making up my mind. Tapani On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 04:09:21PM +0200, Amr Elsadr (aelsadr at egyptig.org) wrote: > Hi Marilia, > > Thanks for explaining this to me. To be clear, I am not objecting, but was just wondering as this just seemed unusual?, or just not how we?ve done it in the past. > > Also agree that a ballot does not prevent us from achieving consensus, but this needs to be clear to the PC members. For example, we have 11 PC members. If any given vote is split 6 to 5 (for example), then this would obviously not count as rough consensus. > > Another question I have on this is whether the results of the cast ballots will be made public. I would argue that they should be. In fact, using ballots in that sense may not be such a bad thing, as it could also serve as a resource to the benefit of the NCSG membership, if they would choose to check up on how different PC members vote. > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > > On Aug 16, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote: > > > > Hi Amr, > > I am responding with my personal views, so Matt and David may jump in later. I dont think that the voting in any way precludes the free discussion that leads to rough consensus. The statements of interest were posted on the list, so was the e-mail with a timeline of the process. However, no engagement on issues of method or substance followed, and we needed to have a way to close the issue. > > > > We sought a solution to perform the selection process and we initially had in mind something more informal than a ballot sent from tally.icann. However, since the PC has no separate channel for communication, such as the GNSO council has, things get a bit harder. We had some staff members on vacations and the easiest solution for those that were on duty was to send a ballot. I think in the end it was an efficient way. > > > > Please, do share your comments and suggestions, so we can improve the process for the next time. > > All the best, > > Marilia > > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Amr Elsadr > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am just wondering if there is a reason why we?re using ballots to vote for a rep on this CCWG. Don?t we usually try to make decisions using rough consensus as opposed to voting? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Amr > > > >> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: > >> > >> Dear members of the PC, > >> > >> You should have received a ballot that will allow you to vote on a candidate for our replacement on the CCWG-IG. Please, follow the instructions and cast your vote until 18/08. In case you do not see the ballot, please check you spam box for an e-mail sent by "tally at icann.org " and contact me if you really did not receive it. > >> > >> Lastly, we apologize for the delay on the schedule for choosing our replacement, due to summer break and vacations. > >> > >> Thank you! > >> Marilia, Matthew and David > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Marilia Maciel > > >> Date: Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:54 PM > >> Subject: Call for expressions of interest - CCWG Internet Governance > >> To: NCSG List > > >> > >> > >> Dear colleagues > >> > >> Bill Drake, our current member on the CCWG-Internet Governance (CCWG-IG) has, unfortunately, decided to step down. We want to thank Bill for his tireless engagement in the WG and hope that he will remain involved in its work and continue to guide our community's engagement in Internet governance work. > >> > >> We urgently need to find a replacement for Bill. We have had some expressions of interest but we welcome additional expressions of interest from the community. > >> > >> Please note that the NCSG PC will be evaluating the candidates according to the following: > >> > >> Overall engagement in NCSG policy-related work and with the community more broadly > >> Internet Governance experience (inside AND outside ICANN) > >> Experience with CCWGs. > >> Those who are interested should also state why they would like to represent NCSG's interests in the CCWG IG (2 paragraphs max). A commitment to materially and consistently contribute to the WG and to communicating on a regular basis with NCSG as to the work of the WG is essential. > >> Timeline: > >> > >> Please send expressions of interest to the NCSG list by 23.59 UTC August 4. A decision will be communicated to the community at the latest by 23.29 UTC Aug 8. > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Marilia, Matthew and David From stephanie.perrin Tue Aug 16 20:32:26 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:32:26 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Public Comment on Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels In-Reply-To: <26e87640-e5e5-27d7-81e6-9fc1004806b8@mpicc.de> References: <26e87640-e5e5-27d7-81e6-9fc1004806b8@mpicc.de> Message-ID: <8d573d0d-9ebc-df2a-1419-b55e7f19b2eb@mail.utoronto.ca> Thanks for doing this work, it is great. I approve, I caught some typos (see attached in markup) Stephanie On 2016-08-15 10:43, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote: > Dear all, > > Here in the attached document comes yet another request to endorse pubic > comments on behalf of NCSG. This time it's public comments on on > Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels. Some of > you might have seen on the NCSG mailing list that it was again Farzaneh > who took the initiative and drafted the first set of comments, then as > far as I understand Ed, Milton, Michael and other members went through > the document and commented/edited it. What we have now might be further > tidied up by Matt before the submission, but I would appreciate if PC > can endorse this in principle. The deadline is on Wednesday, so please > let me know as soon as possible whether you are fine with submitting > this as NCSG comments. > > Again, apologies for the tough time frame - but I very much appreciate > that Farzi and other guys are taking the lead on this and submitting the > comments, let's support them with our endorsements (if you are > comfortable with the document, of course - if not, let's fine-tune it). > > Thanks a million! > > best > > Tanya > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please see the announcement at: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-07-27-en. Please note the following from the announcement: ?Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer.? Please also note the following from the Charter under Membership Criteria: ?Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. Stakeholder Group and Constituencies are asked to identify members that have knowledge of and experience with the GNSO Review and/or GNSO operating procedures and/or processes (for example, previous members of the GNSO Review Working Party and current members of the SCI).? The main difference between members and participants is that ?Consensus calls should involve at a minimum the Stakeholder Group/Constituency appointed members?. This is similar to the format that has been used for the transition-related CCWGs in which the appointed members have a specific co-ordination role as well as decision-making role in relation to the recommendations. Staff have received several volunteers for participants and observers, but thus far none are clearly identified as primary or alternate members from a Stakeholder Group or Constituency. Please let us know if you have any questions concerning the Call for Volunteers or the GNSO Review Working Group. Kind regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best wishes, Marilia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Glen de Saint G?ry Date: Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:57 AM Subject: Election Results: NCSG Replacement on CCWG IG To: Marilia Maciel Cc: Glen de Saint G?ry Dear Marilia, The results of the election for the NCSG Replacement on CCWG IG that closed on 18 August at 23:59 UTC are as follows: 9 votes Farzaneh Badii?s 1 vote Arsene Tungali One person did not vote Attached please find the full results of the NCSG Replacement on CCWG IG for each person to check according to their ID on the ballot that they received. Thank you for asking me to run the election and congratulations to the winner. Kind regards, Glen *Glen de Saint G?ry* Manager Supporting Organisations Advisory Committees Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers - ICANN glen at icann.org http://www.icann.org *Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO* *Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages .* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Robin > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jeff Neuman > Date: August 19, 2016 at 7:22:21 AM PDT > To: "gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org" > Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FINAL DEADLINE FOR CC1 COMMENTS IS TODAY > > All, > > Just a reminder that today is the deadline to receive input from the cc1 questionnaire that was sent out on June 9th (71 DAYS AGO). To date I believe we have only received responses from the ccNSO, GAC and RySG. Nothing from the ALAC, RrSG, IPC, BC, ISPC, NCUC, etc. If responses are not submitted today, we will assume that those groups will not be responding and we will base our CC1 findings on the discussions of the group and the statements we have received thus far. > > Thanks. > > Jeffrey J. Neuman > Senior Vice President |Valideus USA | Com Laude USA > 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600 > Mclean, VA 22102, United States > E: jeff.neuman at valideus.com or jeff.neuman at comlaude.com > T: +1.703.635.7514 > M: +1.202.549.5079 > @Jintlaw > > > _______________________________________________ > Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list > Gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Fri Aug 19 23:01:53 2016 From: avri (avri doria) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:01:53 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FINAL DEADLINE FOR CC1 COMMENTS IS TODAY In-Reply-To: <4ED65C55-1E37-4D3F-83A2-46784F854B3D@ipjustice.org> References: <38BAC4E89FFC2C48AF6119A83CEAF0E4012D3986@ORD2MBX15C.mex05.mlsrvr.com> <4ED65C55-1E37-4D3F-83A2-46784F854B3D@ipjustice.org> Message-ID: <793491f3-e7e7-4f87-03a0-6c01b8e22fb4@apc.org> Hi, I have snt several notifications of this review to the NCSG PC. Think I also sent some to the Discuss list. As one of the co-chairs of the PDP WG, I am pretty much convinced we don't really care about any of the questions. questions cover - should there be more gtlds application opportunities - should there be categories which are treated differently in the application process - should we keep working with rounds of go for a fcfs procedure or something else? currently we use the trial by ordeal method, though we call it a round. - how do we balance predictability and flexibility. Is one more important that the other - how muc community engagement in the application process should there be. What sort? - should there be limits on the number of gtlds in a procedure or for one applicant. As I say I have never noticed great caring about new gTLDs in the NCSG except on some spot issues - like open vs closed, geo names for gac &cctlds, property rights (being covered in the RPM groups), communities And where we may care, like communities, we probably have a split opinions. avri On 19-Aug-16 11:59, Robin Gross wrote: > I don?t recall if NCSG received this request for comment from the new > gtld working group. Is this something on the NCSG PC?s agenda? It > looks like it might be too late after today, although we could > probably ask for an extension today if folks wanted to comment in the > next couple of days. I haven?t been following this issue closely > enough to provide much further background on the questionnaire > however. Just wanted to bring it to the attention of the PC. > > Thanks, > Robin > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Jeff Neuman > > >> *Date: *August 19, 2016 at 7:22:21 AM PDT >> *To: *"gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org " >> > >> *Subject: **[Gnso-newgtld-wg] FINAL DEADLINE FOR CC1 COMMENTS IS TODAY* >> >> All, >> >> Just a reminder that today is the deadline to receive input from the >> cc1 questionnaire that was sent out on June 9^th (71 DAYS AGO). To >> date I believe we have only received responses from the ccNSO, GAC >> and RySG. Nothing from the ALAC, RrSG, IPC, BC, ISPC, NCUC, etc. If >> responses are not submitted today, we will assume that those groups >> will not be responding and we will base our CC1 findings on the >> discussions of the group and the statements we have received thus far. >> >> Thanks. >> >> *Jeffrey J. Neuman* >> *Senior Vice President *|*Valideus USA** *| *Com Laude USA* >> 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600 >> Mclean, VA 22102, United States >> E: _jeff.neuman at valideus.com >> _ or _jeff.neuman at comlaude.com >> _ >> T: +1.703.635.7514 >> M: +1.202.549.5079 >> @Jintlaw >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gnso-newgtld-wg mailing list >> Gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-newgtld-wg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From stephanie.perrin Sat Aug 20 05:14:19 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:14:19 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] RE: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council In-Reply-To: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21209198@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> References: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21209198@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> Message-ID: Possibly of interest, especially since it matches our own comments in many respects Stephanie -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [council] RE: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:39:19 +0000 From: Phil Corwin To: James M. Bladel , GNSO Council List Microsoft Word - 2016-08-05-Steve-Crocker-to-James-Bladel.docx James: Thank you for your inquiry in regard to Chairman Crocker?s August 5^th letter to you regarding whether ?the entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy recommendations?. I shared the letter with members of the Business Constituency and we had a rather lengthy discussion of this subject on the BC member call held on Thursday, August 19^th . Based on that conversation I can convey the following preliminary views from the BC: ?The BC is of the general view that if there is to be a subsequent round or a permanently open application window, it should not be unnecessarily delayed so as to permit the timely submission of .brand applications. ?That said, the BC believes that the application window should not be opened until all necessary reviews have been completed and their reports and recommendations have been fully considered by the ICANN community and Board. This includes not just the Subsequent Procedures PDP referenced in Chairman Crocker?s letter but also the RPM Review PDP (of which I am a WG Co-Chair) and the Consumer Choice, Competition and Trust Review mandated by the Affirmation of Commitments. ?Chairman Crocker appears to be inquiring as to whether it is possible for the Subsequent Procedures PDP to adopt a Work Stream 1 & 2 approach similar to the one created for the CCWG on Accountability. The BC knows of no precedent for such an approach within a PDP. We also observe that the Charter created for a PDP requires it to address, at a minimum, all the subject matter specified in the Charter and that it is the general practice of a PDP WG to keep all issues open and subject to potential adjustment up to publication of its proposed draft report and recommendations. Therefore, we believe that any WS 1 & 2 approach for any PDP would need to be specified in its initial Charter and, if not, would require a Charter amendment to be approved by Council. ?The BC wishes its Councilors to inquire in regard to what process will be followed within Council in forming a response to Chairman Crocker?s letter. Beyond those preliminary views, and speaking in a personal capacity informed by my Co-Chair position of the RPM Review PDP, I note that our Charter bifurcates our work into two phases, with the first being a review of all new gTLD RPMs and the second being a review of the UDRP. We are currently adhering to our projected work schedule and expect to complete our review of new gTLD RPMs by mid-2017 and to deliver a final report and recommendations (following a public comment period) to the Council by late 2017. We will then commence the UDRP review in early 2018 and have not yet projected how long that second phase might take to complete. I personally see no reason why a subsequent application round would need to await completion of the UDRP review. However, it is the strong view of the BC that no new application round should commence until our WG?s review of the efficacy of the RPMs has been completed and any recommendations for change have been considered by Council and The Board. While I have not yet discussed this matter with the other two Co-Chairs, I personally see no practical means by which we could prioritize our phase 1 RPM review into separate work streams; further, doing so would require wholesale revision (and consequent disruption) of our projected work schedule. I hope that this rather detailed response is of assistance to you and other Council members, and look forward to further initial discussion of this subject during our September 1^st Council call. Best regards, Philip *Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal* *Virtualaw LLC* *1155 F Street, NW* *Suite 1050* *Washington, DC 20004* *202-559-8597/Direct* *202-559-8750/Fax* *202-255-6172/Cell*** ** *Twitter: @VlawDC* */"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey/* *From:*owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *James M. Bladel *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:13 PM *To:* GNSO Council List *Subject:* [council] FW: [Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council Councilors - Attached, please find a letter form Steve Crocker/ICANN Board to the Council, regarding the work on subsequent rounds of New gTLDs. (Per Wendy?s note, the letter has not yet been posted on the ICANN Correspondence page, but expected soon). Note that the letter contains a specific request to the GNSO: /?//For example, assuming all other review activities are completed, it would be helpful to understand whether the GNSO believes that the entirety of the current Subsequent Procedures PDP must be completed prior to advancing a new application process under the current policy recommendations. The Board is cognizant that it may be difficult to provide a firm answer at this stage of the process as the reviews are still underway and the PDP is in its initial stages of work, but if any consideration has been given in relation to whether a future application process could proceed while policy work continues and be iteratively applied to the process for allocating new gTLDs, or that a set of critical issues could be identified to be addressed prior to a new application process, the Board would welcome that input./ /The Board would also welcome any elaboration on the expected time frame outlined in the PDP Work Plan, as well as any additional points the GNSO might wish to clarify for the Board in its efforts to support the various areas of work underway in the multistakeholder community?./ I propose that we add this question/topic, and the letter itself, to our 1 SEP meeting agenda as a discussion item, and that we examine ideas on how to proceed on responding to this question. If this is amenable, I would also ask Staff to draft a brief note to Steve, acknowledging the receipt of this letter and noting that it would be discussed during our next meeting. Thoughts on this approach? Thank you, J. *From: *Wendy Profit > *Date: *Friday, August 5, 2016 at 14:19 *To: *James Bladel >, Glen de Saint G?ry >, Marika Konings > *Cc: *Steve Crocker >, Icann-board ICANN >, board-support >, Akram Atallah >, Erika Randall >, Daniel Halloran >, Eleeza Agopian >, Jamie Hedlund >, Karen Lentz >, Cyrus Namazi >, Cristina Flores > *Subject: *[Correspondence] Letter from Steve Crocker to James Bladel, Chair, GNSO Council Dear James Bladel, Please find the attached letter from Steve Crocker, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors regarding subsequent New gTLD rounds. The letter will be posted shortly to the ICANN Correspondence and New gTLD Correspondence pages: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/correspondence https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/correspondence With warm regards, Wendy Profit ICANN Board Operations Specialist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7752 / Virus Database: 4633/12811 - Release Date: 08/15/16 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue Aug 23 00:14:50 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:14:50 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group References: Message-ID: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> Hi, Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt with this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for this, but the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate member to this WG. I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. Thanks. Amr > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Nathalie Peregrine > Subject: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group > Date: July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 > To: "council at gnso.icann.org" > Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" > > > Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group > > In Brief > > The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations which were recently adopted by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer. > > What This Working Group Will Do > > Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan. > > The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests[1] by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. > > Timeline and Deliverables > > The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?[2] i.e., December 2016. > > How to Join > > Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer. Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of Interest per Section 5.0 of the GNSO Operating Procedures . Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls. > > Interested participants and observers are requested to complete the sign-up sheet by Friday, 19 August 2016. > > Next steps > > It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will convene online for the first time in the last week of August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Working Group?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. > > Further information and preparation > > For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials: > 1. GNSO Review Recommendations > 2. Independent Examiner Final Report > 3. Frequently Asked Questions > > Background > > The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. The Final Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 September 2015 (see https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf ) and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation & representation, continuous development, transparency and alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization analysis (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf ) on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO to institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant research related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members increase their knowledge base (low priority). > > On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working Party's Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO Review Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested that the GNSO Council convene a group that oversees the implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. > > Per the motion adopted on 21 July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call for Volunteers for the Working Group. > > > [1] For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from the group affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See request template at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2 . > [2] The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Tue Aug 23 00:47:03 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:47:03 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> Message-ID: I did. Day after deadline... Stephanie On 2016-08-22 17:14, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt with > this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for this, but > the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate member to this WG. > > I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Nathalie Peregrine > > >> *Subject: **[council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* >> *Date: *July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 >> *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org " >> > >> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org " >> > >> >> * >> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* >> ** >> */In Brief/* >> >> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted >> theCharter >> of >> the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. >> This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for >> theGNSO Review recommendations >> which >> were recentlyadopted >> by >> the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working >> Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the >> development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation >> is encouraged to volunteer. >> ** >> */What This Working Group Will Do/* >> ** >> Per the GNSO Review Working GroupCharter >> the >> GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an >> implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the >> implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure >> current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the >> GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four >> (34) recommendations of theFinal Report >> of >> the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding >> recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be >> submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration >> by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation >> plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the >> implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified >> differently in the implementation plan. >> >> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for >> considering any new requests^^[1] by the GNSO >> Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and >> procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified >> either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, >> as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working >> Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the >> subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. >> >> *Timeline and Deliverables* >> >> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the >> implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO >> Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board >> set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic >> timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a >> way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired >> outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no >> later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?^^[2] >> i.e., December 2016. >> >> */How to Join/* >> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one >> primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working >> Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will >> be able to join this working group as a participant or observer. >> Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls >> and to actively participate in online discussions. They also must >> submit a Statement of Interest per Section 5.0 of theGNSO Operating >> Procedures >> . >> Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can >> neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls. >> Interested participants and observers are requested to complete >> thesign-up sheet by Friday, >> 19 August 2016. >> >> */Next steps/*** >> >> It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will convene >> online for the first time in the last week of August 2016. Following >> that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with >> the Working Group?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one >> of its first tasks. >> *//* >> */Further information and preparation/*** >> >> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are >> encouraged to review the following materials: >> 1.GNSO Review Recommendations >> >> 2.Independent Examiner Final >> Report >> 3.Frequently Asked Questions >> */Background/*** >> >> The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. The >> Final Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 >> September 2015 >> (seehttps://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf) >> and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation & >> representation, continuous development, transparency and alignment >> with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the GNSO Review >> Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization analysis >> (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf) >> on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, that the >> council recommends staff working with the GNSO to institute methods >> of information sharing of highly relevant research related to gTLDs >> to help the GNSO community members increase their knowledge base (low >> priority). >> On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the >> independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working Party's >> Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO Review >> Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO Council. The >> Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report >> (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). >> Furthermore, the Board requested that the GNSO Council convene a >> group that oversees the implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. >> Per themotion adopted on 21 >> July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted theCharter >> of >> the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call for >> Volunteers for the Working Group. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> [1] For items that are submitted for review 'on >> request', the GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from >> the group affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See >> request template >> at:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2. >> [2] The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June >> 2016 > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Tue Aug 23 00:51:47 2016 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:51:47 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Hi, I signed-up, I think PC still has to appoint a representative and alternate. Best, Rafik On Aug 23, 2016 6:04 AM, "Amr Elsadr" wrote: > Hi, > > Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt with this > in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for this, but the NCSG PC > needs to appoint a primary and alternate member to this WG. > > I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Nathalie Peregrine > *Subject: **[council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* > *Date: *July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 > *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org" > > > *Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* > > *In Brief* > > > The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the > Charter > of > the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This > Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO > Review recommendations > > which were recently adopted > > by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working > Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the > development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is > encouraged to volunteer. > > *What This Working Group Will Do* > > Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter > the > GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an > implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the > implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current > state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review > recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) > recommendations of the Final Report > > of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding > recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for > approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. > Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is > also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review > recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan. > > > The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any > new requests[1]by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO > Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have > been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the > GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the > Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the > subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. > > > *Timeline and Deliverables* > > > The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation > plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at > ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an > implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the > implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current > state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to > the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the > adoption of this resolution?[2] i.e., December 2016. > > > *How to Join* > > Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary > and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In > addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join > this working group as a participant or observer. Please note that > participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively > participate in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of > Interest per Section 5.0 of the GNSO Operating Procedures > . > Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither > send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls. > > Interested participants and observers are requested to complete the sign-up > sheet by Friday, 19 August 2016. > > > *Next steps* > > > It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will convene online > for the first time in the last week of August 2016. Following that, regular > online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Working Group?s > work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. > > *Further information and preparation* > > > For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged > to review the following materials: > 1. GNSO Review Recommendations > > 2. Independent Examiner Final Report > > 3. Frequently Asked Questions > > *Background* > > > The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. The Final > Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 September 2015 (see > https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso- > review-final-15sep15-en.pdf) and contained 36 recommendations in the > areas of: participation & representation, continuous development, > transparency and alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted > the GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization analysis > (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility- > prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf) on 14 April 2016 with the modification of > Recommendation 21, that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO > to institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant research > related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members increase their > knowledge base (low priority). > > On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the independent > examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working Party's Feasibility and > Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO Review Recommendations, adopted with > modifications by the GNSO Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) > recommendations of the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding > recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested that the GNSO > Council convene a group that oversees the implementation of Board-accepted > recommendations. > > Per the motion adopted on 21 July > 2016, the GNSO Council adopted the Charter > of > the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call for > Volunteers for the Working Group. > > > > ------------------------------ > [1]For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the GNSO Review > WG expects to receive detailed input from the group affected by theprocess/operational > change concerned. See request template at: https://community.icann. > org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_ > template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2. > [2] The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue Aug 23 01:10:59 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 00:10:59 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <9E1A8058-5CDC-4361-A56D-76D2A22EAE65@egyptig.org> That?s right Rafik. Folks had the opportunity to sign up individually, but the NCSG still has to officially appoint the primary and alternate reps to the WG. I got a list from staff of folks who?ve signed up already, and the ones I could identify from NCSG are Rafik, Avri, Pascal Bekono and myself. Stephanie?, looks like you didn?t make it, having signed up after the deadline, but you may have a second bite at the apple if you are selected by this committee. Maybe we should circulate a call for volunteers to the NCSG-DISCUSS list? Thoughts? Thanks. Amr > On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi, > > I signed-up, I think PC still has to appoint a representative and alternate. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > On Aug 23, 2016 6:04 AM, "Amr Elsadr" > wrote: > Hi, > > Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt with this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for this, but the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate member to this WG. > > I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Nathalie Peregrine > >> Subject: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group >> Date: July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 >> To: "council at gnso.icann.org " > >> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org " > >> >> >> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group >> >> In Brief >> >> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations which were recently adopted by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer. >> >> What This Working Group Will Do >> >> Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan. >> >> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests[1] <>by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. >> >> Timeline and Deliverables >> >> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?[2] <> i.e., December 2016. >> >> How to Join >> >> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer. Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of Interest per Section 5.0 of the GNSO Operating Procedures . Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls. >> >> Interested participants and observers are requested to complete the sign-up sheet by Friday, 19 August 2016. >> >> Next steps >> >> It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will convene online for the first time in the last week of August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Working Group?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >> >> Further information and preparation >> >> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials: >> 1. GNSO Review Recommendations >> 2. Independent Examiner Final Report >> 3. Frequently Asked Questions >> >> Background >> >> The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. The Final Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 September 2015 (see https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf ) and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation & representation, continuous development, transparency and alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization analysis (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf ) on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO to institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant research related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members increase their knowledge base (low priority). >> >> On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working Party's Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO Review Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested that the GNSO Council convene a group that oversees the implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. >> >> Per the motion adopted on 21 July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call for Volunteers for the Working Group. >> >> >> [1] <>For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from the group affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See request template at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2 . >> [2] <> The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mshears Tue Aug 23 01:11:22 2016 From: mshears (matthew shears) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:11:22 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <9E1A8058-5CDC-4361-A56D-76D2A22EAE65@egyptig.org> References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> <9E1A8058-5CDC-4361-A56D-76D2A22EAE65@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <910aea06-57de-c810-5e57-240fd9ced44a@cdt.org> Thanks Amr - are any of those currently on the list willing to step forward and be considered for primary and alternate roles? If not I agree that we should circulate to the list unless there are other suggestions. Matthew On 22/08/2016 23:10, Amr Elsadr wrote: > That?s right Rafik. Folks had the opportunity to sign up individually, > but the NCSG still has to officially appoint the primary and alternate > reps to the WG. > > I got a list from staff of folks who?ve signed up already, and the > ones I could identify from NCSG are Rafik, Avri, Pascal Bekono and > myself. Stephanie?, looks like you didn?t make it, having signed up > after the deadline, but you may have a second bite at the apple if you > are selected by this committee. > > Maybe we should circulate a call for volunteers to the NCSG-DISCUSS list? > > Thoughts? > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I signed-up, I think PC still has to appoint a representative and >> alternate. >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> >> On Aug 23, 2016 6:04 AM, "Amr Elsadr" > > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt >> with this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for >> this, but the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate >> member to this WG. >> >> I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *Nathalie Peregrine >> > >>> *Subject: **[council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working >>> Group* >>> *Date: *July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 >>> *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org " >>> > >>> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org " >>> > >>> >>> * >>> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* >>> ** >>> */In Brief/* >>> >>> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted >>> theCharter >>> of >>> the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July >>> 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation >>> plan for theGNSO Review recommendations >>> which >>> were recentlyadopted >>> by >>> the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this >>> Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and >>> contributing to the development of the implementation plan and >>> subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer. >>> ** >>> */What This Working Group Will Do/* >>> ** >>> Per the GNSO Review Working GroupCharter >>> the >>> GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an >>> implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the >>> implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to >>> measure current state as well as progress toward the desired >>> outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN >>> Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of theFinal Report >>> of >>> the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding >>> recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be >>> submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by >>> consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the >>> implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to >>> execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review >>> recommendations unless specified differently in the >>> implementation plan. >>> >>> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for >>> considering any new requests^^[1] by the GNSO Council concerning >>> issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and >>> to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by >>> the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as >>> needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working >>> Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the >>> subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. >>> >>> *Timeline and Deliverables* >>> >>> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the >>> implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the >>> GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet >>> the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a >>> realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired >>> outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress >>> toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as >>> soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the >>> adoption of this resolution?^^[2] i.e., December 2016. >>> >>> */How to Join/* >>> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify >>> one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review >>> Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone >>> interested will be able to join this working group as a >>> participant or observer. Please note that participants are >>> expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate >>> in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of >>> Interest per Section 5.0 of theGNSO Operating Procedures >>> . >>> Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but >>> can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in >>> the calls. >>> Interested participants and observers are requested to complete >>> thesign-up sheet by >>> Friday, 19 August 2016. >>> >>> */Next steps/*** >>> >>> It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will >>> convene online for the first time in the last week of August >>> 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled >>> in accordance with the Working Group?s work plan, which it is >>> expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >>> *//* >>> */Further information and preparation/*** >>> >>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are >>> encouraged to review the following materials: >>> 1.GNSO Review Recommendations >>> >>> 2.Independent Examiner Final Report >>> >>> 3.Frequently Asked Questions >>> */Background/*** >>> >>> The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. >>> The Final Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 >>> September 2015 >>> (seehttps://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf >>> ) >>> and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation >>> & representation, continuous development, transparency and >>> alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the >>> GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization >>> analysis >>> (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf >>> ) >>> on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, >>> that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO to >>> institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant >>> research related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members >>> increase their knowledge base (low priority). >>> On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the >>> independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working >>> Party's Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO >>> Review Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO >>> Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of >>> the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding >>> recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested >>> that the GNSO Council convene a group that oversees the >>> implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. >>> Per themotion adopted on >>> 21 July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted theCharter >>> of >>> the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call >>> for Volunteers for the Working Group. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> [1]For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the >>> GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from the group >>> affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See request >>> template >>> at:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2 >>> . >>> [2]The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- -------------- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 771 2472987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Tue Aug 23 02:06:03 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:06:03 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <910aea06-57de-c810-5e57-240fd9ced44a@cdt.org> References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> <9E1A8058-5CDC-4361-A56D-76D2A22EAE65@egyptig.org> <910aea06-57de-c810-5e57-240fd9ced44a@cdt.org> Message-ID: <701991c6-7c65-faed-5358-9f36f67bb24b@mail.utoronto.ca> well if I did not make the cut how can I get approved as say the alternate by pc committee? doesnt PC have to work with the list of approved volunteers who did it by the deadline (or could they pick a NOTA?) SP Anyway as long as we have reps that is all I care about. On 2016-08-22 18:11, matthew shears wrote: > > Thanks Amr - are any of those currently on the list willing to step > forward and be considered for primary and alternate roles? > > If not I agree that we should circulate to the list unless there are > other suggestions. > > Matthew > > > On 22/08/2016 23:10, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> That?s right Rafik. Folks had the opportunity to sign up >> individually, but the NCSG still has to officially appoint the >> primary and alternate reps to the WG. >> >> I got a list from staff of folks who?ve signed up already, and the >> ones I could identify from NCSG are Rafik, Avri, Pascal Bekono and >> myself. Stephanie?, looks like you didn?t make it, having signed up >> after the deadline, but you may have a second bite at the apple if >> you are selected by this committee. >> >> Maybe we should circulate a call for volunteers to the NCSG-DISCUSS list? >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I signed-up, I think PC still has to appoint a representative and >>> alternate. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>> On Aug 23, 2016 6:04 AM, "Amr Elsadr" >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt >>> with this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for >>> this, but the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate >>> member to this WG. >>> >>> I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> *From: *Nathalie Peregrine >>> > >>>> *Subject: **[council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working >>>> Group* >>>> *Date: *July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 >>>> *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org " >>>> > >>>> *Cc: *"gnso-secs at icann.org " >>>> > >>>> >>>> * >>>> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group* >>>> ** >>>> */In Brief/* >>>> >>>> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council >>>> adopted theCharter >>>> of >>>> the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July >>>> 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation >>>> plan for theGNSO Review recommendations >>>> which >>>> were recentlyadopted >>>> by >>>> the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this >>>> Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and >>>> contributing to the development of the implementation plan and >>>> subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer. >>>> ** >>>> */What This Working Group Will Do/* >>>> ** >>>> Per the GNSO Review Working GroupCharter >>>> the >>>> GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an >>>> implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the >>>> implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to >>>> measure current state as well as progress toward the desired >>>> outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the >>>> ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of theFinal >>>> Report >>>> of >>>> the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding >>>> recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be >>>> submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by >>>> consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the >>>> implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to >>>> execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review >>>> recommendations unless specified differently in the >>>> implementation plan. >>>> >>>> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for >>>> considering any new requests^^[1] by the GNSO Council >>>> concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and >>>> procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been >>>> identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by >>>> the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first >>>> priority of the Working Group will be the development of an >>>> implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the >>>> GNSO Review recommendations. >>>> >>>> *Timeline and Deliverables* >>>> >>>> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the >>>> implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at >>>> the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to >>>> meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, >>>> containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, >>>> definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current >>>> state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be >>>> submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than >>>> six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?^^[2] >>>> i.e., December 2016. >>>> >>>> */How to Join/* >>>> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify >>>> one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO >>>> Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, >>>> anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a >>>> participant or observer. Please note that participants are >>>> expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate >>>> in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of >>>> Interest per Section 5.0 of theGNSO Operating Procedures >>>> . >>>> Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but >>>> can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively >>>> in the calls. >>>> Interested participants and observers are requested to complete >>>> thesign-up sheet by >>>> Friday, 19 August 2016. >>>> >>>> */Next steps/*** >>>> >>>> It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will >>>> convene online for the first time in the last week of August >>>> 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled >>>> in accordance with the Working Group?s work plan, which it is >>>> expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >>>> *//* >>>> */Further information and preparation/*** >>>> >>>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are >>>> encouraged to review the following materials: >>>> 1.GNSO Review Recommendations >>>> >>>> 2.Independent Examiner Final Report >>>> >>>> 3.Frequently Asked Questions >>>> */Background/*** >>>> >>>> The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. >>>> The Final Report of the independent examiner was published on >>>> 15 September 2015 >>>> (seehttps://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf >>>> ) >>>> and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation >>>> & representation, continuous development, transparency and >>>> alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the >>>> GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization >>>> analysis >>>> (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf >>>> ) >>>> on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, >>>> that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO to >>>> institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant >>>> research related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members >>>> increase their knowledge base (low priority). >>>> On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the >>>> independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working >>>> Party's Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO >>>> Review Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO >>>> Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of >>>> the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding >>>> recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested >>>> that the GNSO Council convene a group that oversees the >>>> implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. >>>> Per themotion adopted on >>>> 21 July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted theCharter >>>> of >>>> the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call >>>> for Volunteers for the Working Group. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> [1]For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the >>>> GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from the group >>>> affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See >>>> request template >>>> at:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2 >>>> . >>>> [2]The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > -------------- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 771 2472987 > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue Aug 23 17:33:39 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:33:39 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <701991c6-7c65-faed-5358-9f36f67bb24b@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <9BE6F7F8-6B4B-4514-898C-2C8563BE32B5@egyptig.org> <9E1A8058-5CDC-4361-A56D-76D2A22EAE65@egyptig.org> <910aea06-57de-c810-5e57-240fd9ced44a@cdt.org> <701991c6-7c65-faed-5358-9f36f67bb24b@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <3AF81892-55C4-415C-A0B5-E263E67B307D@egyptig.org> Hi, It would make sense to me if the PC decided to only approach those who have already signed up, as Matt suggested. Technically, they?re the only ones who initially showed interest in participating. This does not take into consideration folks who would have been willing to sign up, but missed the deadline for whatever reason. It?s a judgment call really, and we could go either way. I?m open to suggestion. But we do need to get this done before the WG convenes. Also?, speaking for myself?, when I signed up for this, I did so with the intent of being a participant. In fact, I raised an issue with staff because the online application only allowed you to choose to be a member or an observer, while the charter allows for participants. This is new to GNSO WGs, so was overlooked. I don?t plan on being the primary or alternate member on this WG, but would like to participate regardless. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 23, 2016, at 1:06 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > well if I did not make the cut how can I get approved as say the alternate by pc committee? doesnt PC have to work with the list of approved volunteers who did it by the deadline (or could they pick a NOTA?) > > SP Anyway as long as we have reps that is all I care about. > > > > On 2016-08-22 18:11, matthew shears wrote: >> Thanks Amr - are any of those currently on the list willing to step forward and be considered for primary and alternate roles? >> >> If not I agree that we should circulate to the list unless there are other suggestions. >> Matthew >> >> On 22/08/2016 23:10, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> That?s right Rafik. Folks had the opportunity to sign up individually, but the NCSG still has to officially appoint the primary and alternate reps to the WG. >>> >>> I got a list from staff of folks who?ve signed up already, and the ones I could identify from NCSG are Rafik, Avri, Pascal Bekono and myself. Stephanie?, looks like you didn?t make it, having signed up after the deadline, but you may have a second bite at the apple if you are selected by this committee. >>> >>> Maybe we should circulate a call for volunteers to the NCSG-DISCUSS list? >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Rafik Dammak > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I signed-up, I think PC still has to appoint a representative and alternate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 23, 2016 6:04 AM, "Amr Elsadr" > wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Just wanted to raise this here. I don?t recall that we?ve dealt with this in the PC capacity. I don?t know who?s signed up for this, but the NCSG PC needs to appoint a primary and alternate member to this WG. >>>> >>>> I?ll try to find out who signed up from NCSG. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: Nathalie Peregrine > >>>>> Subject: [council] Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group >>>>> Date: July 27, 2016 at 9:42:22 AM GMT+2 >>>>> To: "council at gnso.icann.org " > >>>>> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org " > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Call for Volunteers: GNSO Review Working Group >>>>> >>>>> In Brief >>>>> >>>>> The Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group during its meeting on 21 July 2016. This Working Group is tasked to develop an implementation plan for the GNSO Review recommendations which were recently adopted by the ICANN Board. This is the Call for Volunteers to join this Working Group. Anyone interested in the GNSO Review and contributing to the development of the implementation plan and subsequent implementation is encouraged to volunteer. >>>>> >>>>> What This Working Group Will Do >>>>> >>>>> Per the GNSO Review Working Group Charter the GNSO Review Working Group will be responsible for developing an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome for the GNSO Review recommendations adopted by the ICANN Board (thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report of the Independent Examiner (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). This implementation plan is to be submitted for approval to the GNSO Council, followed by consideration by the ICANN Board. Following the approval of the implementation plan, the Working Group is also expected to execute and oversee the implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations unless specified differently in the implementation plan. >>>>> >>>>> The GNSO Review Working Group will also be responsible for considering any new requests[1] <>by the GNSO Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group chartered by the GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation plan and the subsequent implementation of the GNSO Review recommendations. >>>>> >>>>> Timeline and Deliverables >>>>> >>>>> The GNSO Review Working Group is expected to deliver the implementation plan to the GNSO Council for consideration at the GNSO Council meeting at ICANN57 at the latest in order to meet the Board set objective of ?an implementation plan, containing a realistic timeline for the implementation, definition of desired outcomes and a way to measure current state as well as progress toward the desired outcome, shall be submitted to the Board as soon as possible, but no later than six (6) months after the adoption of this resolution?[2] <> i.e., December 2016. >>>>> >>>>> How to Join >>>>> >>>>> Each GNSO Stakeholder Group and/or Constituency will identify one primary and one alternate member to serve on the GNSO Review Working Group. In addition to these appointed members, anyone interested will be able to join this working group as a participant or observer. Please note that participants are expected to attend conference calls and to actively participate in online discussions. They also must submit a Statement of Interest per Section 5.0 of the GNSO Operating Procedures . Observers can follow the group's work on the mailing list but can neither send to the mailing list nor participate actively in the calls. >>>>> >>>>> Interested participants and observers are requested to complete the sign-up sheet by Friday, 19 August 2016. >>>>> >>>>> Next steps >>>>> >>>>> It is anticipated that the GNSO Review Working Group will convene online for the first time in the last week of August 2016. Following that, regular online meetings will be scheduled in accordance with the Working Group?s work plan, which it is expected to develop as one of its first tasks. >>>>> >>>>> Further information and preparation >>>>> >>>>> For those interested in volunteering for this effort, you are encouraged to review the following materials: >>>>> 1. GNSO Review Recommendations >>>>> 2. Independent Examiner Final Report >>>>> 3. Frequently Asked Questions >>>>> >>>>> Background >>>>> >>>>> The second independent review of the GNSO commenced in 2014. The Final Report of the independent examiner was published on 15 September 2015 (see https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gnso-review-final-15sep15-en.pdf ) and contained 36 recommendations in the areas of: participation & representation, continuous development, transparency and alignment with ICANN's future. The GNSO Council adopted the GNSO Review Recommendations Feasibility and Prioritization analysis (see:http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/review-feasibility-prioritization-25feb16-en.pdf ) on 14 April 2016 with the modification of Recommendation 21, that the council recommends staff working with the GNSO to institute methods of information sharing of highly relevant research related to gTLDs to help the GNSO community members increase their knowledge base (low priority). >>>>> >>>>> On 25 June, the ICANN Board accepted the Final Report from the independent examiner, taking into account the GNSO Working Party's Feasibility and Prioritization Analysis of the GNSO Review Recommendations, adopted with modifications by the GNSO Council. The Board adopted thirty-four (34) recommendations of the Final Report (i.e. all recommendations excluding recommendations 23 and 32). Furthermore, the Board requested that the GNSO Council convene a group that oversees the implementation of Board-accepted recommendations. >>>>> >>>>> Per the motion adopted on 21 July 2016, the GNSO Council adopted the Charter of the GNSO Review Working Group and directed staff to send a Call for Volunteers for the Working Group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] <>For items that are submitted for review 'on request', the GNSO Review WG expects to receive detailed input from the group affected by theprocess/operational change concerned. See request template at: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/14713135/GNSO-SCI-ReviewRequest-yyymmdd_template.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1469143165000&api=v2 . >>>>> [2] <> The Board resolution was adopted on 25 June 2016 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> -- >> -------------- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 771 2472987 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Thu Aug 25 02:58:06 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:58:06 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] FW: Outside legal Support for WS2 --- FW: Slides and AC recording CCWG Accountability Webinar 22 August 2016 In-Reply-To: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21227F1C@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> References: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21227F1C@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> Message-ID: <1cd495dc-4af8-9298-a133-d84b2d7fa7c4@mail.utoronto.ca> I think Phil is spot on here. We should perhaps elevate the concerns now?? Stephanie -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [council] FW: Outside legal Support for WS2 --- FW: Slides and AC recording CCWG Accountability Webinar 22 August 2016 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:46:11 +0000 From: Phil Corwin To: council at gnso.icann.org Fellow Council members: FYI, I am sharing these thoughts on yesterday?s legal support presentation, which I just shared with BC members. Best to all, Philip *Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal* *Virtualaw LLC* *1155 F Street, NW* *Suite 1050* *Washington, DC 20004* *202-559-8597/Direct* *202-559-8750/Fax* *202-255-6172/Cell*** ** *Twitter: @VlawDC* */"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey/* *From:*Phil Corwin *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:39 AM *To:* bc-private icann.org (bc-private at icann.org) *Subject:* Outside legal Support for WS2 --- FW: Slides and AC recording CCWG Accountability Webinar 22 August 2016 BC members: Late yesterday I participated in a call for Council members regarding budgeting for WS2 Accountability issues. Attached are the materials used on the call. As you will note on the first page of the CCWG-Budget ownership document, the amount budgeted for external legal advice for all of the WS2 issues (and there are 9 separate tracks) is: Professional fees: using the legal advice for the total project over 2 years ($14m), 10% or $1.4m for WS2 considered a reasonable. _That is, just 10% of the outside legal costs incurred for WS1 has been budgeted for WS2._ When the Q&A/comment portion of the call opened up I made the following points: ?We all support responsible budgeting and paring of unnecessary expenses in all ICANN funded work ?That said, WS2 are not less important than WS1 issues ? they are just issues that did not need to be resolved prior to the transition. Many are quite important to assuring post-transition ICANN accountability ?Several of the WS2 topics ? most notably staff accountability, transparency (which encompasses disclosure of internal staff communications and procedures) and good faith conduct in Board removal discussions ? are ones where participating community members are more likely to desire assuredly impartial outside legal advice rather than that coming from ICANN?s own legal department ?So, while it is reasonable to assume that WS2 outside legal expenses will be less than those for WS1 (e.g., there will be no need to draft and vet extensive new Bylaws or Articles of Incorporation provisions) a 10% cap may be unrealistically low On the call I also investigated the process for securing more funding if my concerns are borne out in practice. Page 3 of the PDF contains this information: 3. External legal advice ?legal committee: to evaluate needs for legal advice, and determine adequate source to provide the answer, privileging the highest value (value = benefit / cost). ?Legal committee membership to include an ICANN legal representative, community members with experience in procuring external legal advice, and the CCWG co-chairs. I asked on the call how the legal committee would reach decisions on funding needs and, in particular, whether the ?ICANN legal representative? would have an equal voice. I was told that the individual from ICANN Legal would not have the same weight in making decisions, but I think we will need to see how this process plays out in practice. Slide 4 of the attached PPT has this information about the role of the Legal Committee: Role : Filter, analyze, refine (ensure clarity), and approve requests for legal advice Determine which firm is best suited to respond Process : The Committee meets at least once a month Based on subgroup requests documented and share before the meeting, Rapporteurs may attend relevant part of the call to discuss their requests LC ensures that request is a legal issue (not a policy one) With support from PCST, LC tracks legal expenses with clear distinction between what is related to its scope vs any other Legal costs. Counsel may be invited to attend parts of the LC meeting to ensure clarity of expectations and context (reminder : /Counsel participation to CCWG and subgroup calls is exceptional only/) Composition based on WS1 Legal subteam executive team, ie : Le?n Sanchez (co-chair, lead) Samantha Eisner (support) Athina Fragkouli Robin Gross David McAuley Sabine Meyer Edward Morris Greg Shatan The final page of the attached PPT has this additional information regarding the process within the Legal Committee: Proposed guidelines for the Legal Committee: If Icann Legal already has an answer available to the question, it can be shared immediately to avoid extra costs. The Committee may direct the request at ICANN Legal or external firms, based on a case by case assessment. Decisions would have to take into account costs, delays, respective skills, as well as potential requirement for ?independent? advice. The Committee is encouraged to use ICANN Legal as much as possible in order to manage costs effectively. Sidley & Adler will coordinate to decide which firm is best suited to address requests certified to CCWG Independent Counsel If the CCWG requests advice from Jones Day, then Jones Day should either (a) disclose that ICANN (and not the CCWG) is their client for purposes of the memo or (b) enter into an engagement specifically with the CCWG as client (same as Sidley and Adler), and that ICANN has provided a waiver of conflict of interest. Hiring of other firms for specific expertise would be subject to CCWG-ACCT and Icann Legal prior approval (similar process as during WS1) Once the LC has determined it needs to hire external legal counsel it forwards the request with relevant details, including estimated costs and a report from the PCST on the financial impact, to the Co-Chairs for approval. The Co-Chairs will consider the request and the financial impact as soon as possible and provide a formal response to the LC which will be documented on the CCWG WS2 Wiki if approved. Generally, I believe that the use of a Legal Committee to authorize and track outside legal expenses is sound. However, I do have some concern that the determinations of the Legal Committee are subject to final review and decision-making by the CCWG Co-Chairs. Further, it came out in the call that the final decision on any request for funds beyond the allocated $1.4 million will be made by the Board, which raises the disturbing possibility that the Board could veto a request for legal advice integral to final decisions on such matters as staff accountability, organizational transparency, and conduct in Board removal proceedings. I do not know if there is any way to get the $1.4 million cap reconsidered; it seemed on the call that it was set in stone. I certainly hope that it is sufficient to provide needed outside legal support for the remaining accountability work, but I did want to get my concerns on the record now in the event that the reality proves otherwise. Best to all, Philip *Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal* *Virtualaw LLC* *1155 F Street, NW* *Suite 1050* *Washington, DC 20004* *202-559-8597/Direct* *202-559-8750/Fax* *202-255-6172/Cell* ** *Twitter: @VlawDC* */"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey/* *From:*owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Nathalie Peregrine *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:09 PM *To:* council at gnso.icann.org *Cc:* gnso-secs at icann.org *Subject:* [council] Slides and AC recording CCWG Accountability Webinar 22 August 2016 Dear all, Please find the presentations attached and the AC recording (audio and slides) of the*CCWG Accountability webinar held today on 22 August 2016:* https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p8fu99qpt7d/ Kind regards, Nathalie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. 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Name: CCWG Budget Legal cost control mechanismsV4MW.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 370586 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lists Fri Aug 26 14:50:46 2016 From: lists (Niels ten Oever) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:50:46 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] pre-warning draft comment to gTLD subsequent procedure WG Message-ID: Dear all, I hope this e-mail finds you all well. We just had a very productive call of the CCWP HR in which we discussed several issues in which the gTLD Subsequenty Procedures WG impacts human rights (community priority procedure, how 'community' is defined, lack of gTLD applications from the global south, etc). I am aware that the first official input/comment period of this WG is over, but I think if we would send something in it might still be considered, especially since the NCSG did not send comment yet. Vidushi has graciously offered to do the drafting, also based on the report she initially drafted and which was accepted as CCWP HR document [0]. So this is an early warning that you'll receive a draft comment on Tuesday, if we want to it to be considered I think we would need to submit it rather switfly, that's why I am sending this pre-warning so you know you can excpect it. Stay tuned :) All the best, Niels [0] https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53772653/4.CCWP-HR%20Jurisdiction.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1467180138000&api=v2 -- Niels ten Oever Head of Digital Article 19 www.article19.org PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 From stephanie.perrin Fri Aug 26 20:13:08 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:13:08 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [HOTEL #232761] FW: [council] [Soac-infoalert] ICANN57 Hyderabad: What You Need to Know (Part 2) - ICANN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29b16158-a319-f529-bce7-30dc5f290c0c@mail.utoronto.ca> are we setting up a hyderabad meeting skype channel? Looks like we will need it more than ever..... SP PS according to Phil Corwin, the actual name is Westin Hyderabad Mindspace Hotel. I am at a loss for words over that one..... -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [HOTEL #232761] FW: [council] [Soac-infoalert] ICANN57 Hyderabad: What You Need to Know (Part 2) - ICANN Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:23:42 +0000 From: Glen de Saint G?ry To: GNSO Council List (council at gnso.icann.org) Dear Councillors and Mason - GNSO liaison to the GAC, The Meeting Team has provided us with this information for all GNSO travelers receiving support from ICANN. GNSO is being housed at the Westin Hyderabad Hotel. Confirmations are coming within the next few days. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint G?ry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There's a council call on Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as usual. Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors will be), please let me know ASAP. Thank you, -- Tapani Tarvainen From aelsadr Mon Aug 29 17:46:29 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 16:46:29 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Hi Tapani, The GNSO Bylaws Drafting Team has a call on Wednesday at UTC 13:00. I believe this will be a one-hour call, but am not sure. Two of our six Councillors will be on that call, as well as one constituency-appointed PC member. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 29, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > Dear PC members, > > My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on > Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as > usual. > > Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only > time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. > > Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible > timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but > if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work > (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors > will be), please let me know ASAP. > > Thank you, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From stephanie.perrin Mon Aug 29 17:48:20 2016 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:48:20 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. I have house guests and may not be available. Stephanie On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Dear PC members, > > My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on > Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as > usual. > > Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only > time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. > > Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible > timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but > if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work > (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors > will be), please let me know ASAP. > > Thank you, > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Stefania.Milan Mon Aug 29 17:51:27 2016 From: Stefania.Milan (Milan, Stefania) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:51:27 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info>, <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. I have house guests and may not be available. Stephanie On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: Dear PC members, My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as usual. Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors will be), please let me know ASAP. Thank you, _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited without the express permission of the sender. 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M On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania wrote: > i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on > Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin utoronto.ca> wrote: > > There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. > > I have house guests and may not be available. > > Stephanie > > On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > Dear PC members, > > My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on > Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as > usual. > > Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only > time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. > > Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible > timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but > if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work > (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors > will be), please let me know ASAP. > > Thank you, > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, > forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received > this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robin Mon Aug 29 19:59:40 2016 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 09:59:40 -0700 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement again: > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Robin Gross > Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT > To: NCSG List > Cc: NCSG-Policy > Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments > > All, > The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. > > As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. > > Thanks, > Robin > ====================================================== > > CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES > > Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. > Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. > > Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. > > > Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) > > > The duties of members are to > > 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole > > 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required > > 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments > > > CHAIR STRUCTURE > > > A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. > > > Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. > > > It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. > > > Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote: > > I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. > M > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: > i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: > >> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >> >> I have house guests and may not be available. >> >> Stephanie >> >> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>> Dear PC members, >>> >>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>> usual. >>> >>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>> >>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From aelsadr Mon Aug 29 20:19:54 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:19:54 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda? Thanks again. Amr > On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement again: > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Robin Gross > >> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >> To: NCSG List > >> Cc: NCSG-Policy > >> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments >> >> All, >> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. >> >> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> ====================================================== >> >> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES >> >> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. >> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. >> >> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. >> >> >> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) >> >> >> The duties of members are to >> >> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole >> >> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required >> >> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments >> >> >> CHAIR STRUCTURE >> >> >> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. >> >> >> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. >> >> >> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. >> >> >> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: >> >> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >> M >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: >> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >> >>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>> >>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>> >>> Stephanie >>> >>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>> Dear PC members, >>>> >>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>> usual. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>> >>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From ncsg Mon Aug 29 20:22:36 2016 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:22:36 +0300 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: > PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time > but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed > that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. Hi Sam, You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. Poncelet, If you get this please confirm. Robin, You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. Thanks, -- Tapani Tarvainen From kdrstoll Mon Aug 29 20:24:26 2016 From: kdrstoll (Klaus Stoll) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:24:26 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> Thanks Amr Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as primary and alternate members of the GNSO Review working group. Thank you Klaus On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and > alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can > include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda? > > Thanks again. > > Amr > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross > > wrote: >> >> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to >> serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the >> announcement again: >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *Robin Gross > >>> *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >>> *To: *NCSG List >> > >>> *Cc: *NCSG-Policy > >>> *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process >>> Adjustments* >>> >>> All, >>> >>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small >>> changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives >>> on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. >>> Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative >>> per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 >>> representatives on the group. Details are below. >>> >>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy >>> Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>> ====================================================== >>> >>> *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES* >>> >>> *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according >>> to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.* >>> >>> *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that >>> there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.* >>> >>> *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then >>> stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further >>> selection.* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. >>> (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in >>> 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should >>> serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served >>> prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted))* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *The duties of members are to* >>> >>> *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole* >>> >>> *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required* >>> >>> *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *CHAIR STRUCTURE* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member >>> representatives for two year terms.* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms >>> expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are >>> selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to >>> representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on >>> these tasks. * >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition >>> will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.* >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel >> > wrote: >>> >>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >>> M >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania >>> > wrote: >>> >>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day >>> on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>>> >>>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>>> >>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>>> Dear PC members, >>>>> >>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>>> usual. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>> >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or >>> entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential >>> and/or privileged material. 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URL: From aelsadr Mon Aug 29 20:48:24 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:48:24 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <88B54685-DF8D-4998-A760-0FB2FA638D83@egyptig.org> Hi, I do believe that Poncelet has already posted to this list when we were discussing appointments to the GNSO Bylaws Drafting Team?, so he should already be here. And even though Sam isn?t a member of the PC anymore, as far as I?m concerned, he?s more than welcome to remain subscribed to this list (if he wishes to), and weigh in whenever he chooses. There are many former PC members who are still subscribed. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: > >> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time >> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed >> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. > > Hi Sam, > > You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as > he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. > > Poncelet, > > If you get this please confirm. > > Robin, > > You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. > > Thanks, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From pileleji Mon Aug 29 20:37:53 2016 From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:37:53 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Colleagues, Am within the policy mailing list. Thanks Poncelet On 29 August 2016 at 17:24, Klaus Stoll wrote: > Thanks Amr > > Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as primary and > alternate members of the GNSO Review working group. > > Thank you > > Klaus > > On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and alternate > members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can include both of > these topics as discussion items on the agenda? > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on > the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement > again: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Robin Gross > *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT > *To: *NCSG List > > *Cc: *NCSG-Policy > *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process > Adjustments* > > All, > > The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, > including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a > regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, > including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning > this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are > below. > As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee > to fill new slot on the CSCG. > > Thanks, > Robin > > ====================================================== > > *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES* > *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to > their own internal processes, on the CSCG.* > > *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there > is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.* > > *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down > for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection.* > > *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. > (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, > each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year > term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not > count in new procedures being adopted))* > > *The duties of members are to* > > *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole* > > *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required* > > *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments* > > *CHAIR STRUCTURE* > > *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member > representatives for two year terms.* > > *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms > expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.* > > *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are > selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to > representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these > tasks. * > > *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will > be given the option to nominate a replacement representative.* > > -- > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: > > I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. > M > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: > >> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on >> Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin < >> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: >> >> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >> >> I have house guests and may not be available. >> >> Stephanie >> >> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >> >> Dear PC members, >> >> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >> usual. >> >> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >> >> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >> will be), please let me know ASAP. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to >> which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, >> forwarding, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this >> information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is >> prohibited without the express permission of the sender. If you received >> this communication in error, please contact the sender and delete the >> material from any computer. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing listPC-NCSG at ipjustice.orghttp://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ www.waigf.org www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ncsg Mon Aug 29 20:38:49 2016 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:38:49 +0300 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <88B54685-DF8D-4998-A760-0FB2FA638D83@egyptig.org> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> <88B54685-DF8D-4998-A760-0FB2FA638D83@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <20160829173849.GA20214@kusti.tarvainen.info> Hi Amr, Of course I'd be happy if the PC wants to keep Sam in as an observer. I just understood he wanted to be removed. Sam, could you please clarify your intent? Tapani On Aug 29 19:48, Amr Elsadr (aelsadr at egyptig.org) wrote: > Hi, > > I do believe that Poncelet has already posted to this list when we were discussing appointments to the GNSO Bylaws Drafting Team?, so he should already be here. And even though Sam isn?t a member of the PC anymore, as far as I?m concerned, he?s more than welcome to remain subscribed to this list (if he wishes to), and weigh in whenever he chooses. There are many former PC members who are still subscribed. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: > > > >> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time > >> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed > >> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as > > he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. > > > > Poncelet, > > > > If you get this please confirm. > > > > Robin, > > > > You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From robin Mon Aug 29 20:42:59 2016 From: robin (Robin Gross) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:42:59 -0700 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Apologies, I?ve now removed Sam from the PC list. Just to be sure: Klaus and Poncelet are NPOC?s two representatives appointed to the PC right now, yes? Thanks, Robin > On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: > >> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time >> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed >> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. > > Hi Sam, > > You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as > he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. > > Poncelet, > > If you get this please confirm. > > Robin, > > You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. > > Thanks, > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > From pileleji Mon Aug 29 20:49:25 2016 From: pileleji (Poncelet Ileleji) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:49:25 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: Am here Robin Thanks Poncelet On 29 August 2016 at 17:42, Robin Gross wrote: > Apologies, I?ve now removed Sam from the PC list. Just to be sure: Klaus > and Poncelet are NPOC?s two representatives appointed to the PC right now, > yes? > > Thanks, > Robin > > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Tapani Tarvainen < > ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco ( > lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: > > > >> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time > >> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed > >> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as > > he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. > > > > Poncelet, > > > > If you get this please confirm. > > > > Robin, > > > > You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Tapani Tarvainen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > -- Poncelet O. Ileleji MBCS Coordinator The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio MDI Road Kanifing South P. O. Box 421 Banjul The Gambia, West Africa Tel: (220) 4370240 Fax:(220) 4390793 Cell:(220) 9912508 Skype: pons_utd *www.ymca.gm http://jokkolabs.net/en/ www.waigf.org www,insistglobal.com www.npoc.org http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753 *www.diplointernetgovernance.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kdrstoll Mon Aug 29 20:54:40 2016 From: kdrstoll (Klaus Stoll) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:54:40 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> Message-ID: <666f2195-a8a3-c7f6-6f5f-dbce6f97fd13@gmail.com> Hi, Please excuse the confusion GNSO Review Working Group: Poncelet and Martin are NPOC appointees with Joan and Klaus as observers. I am still unclear with regard to the GNSO Drafting team. As far as I am aware there is nobody from NPOC involved due to a mistake that should be rectified. Any suggestions on how to get this done, more then welcome! Yours Klaus On 8/29/2016 1:42 PM, Robin Gross wrote: > Apologies, I?ve now removed Sam from the PC list. Just to be sure: Klaus and Poncelet are NPOC?s two representatives appointed to the PC right now, yes? > > Thanks, > Robin > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: >> >>> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time >>> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed >>> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. >> Hi Sam, >> >> You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as >> he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. >> >> Poncelet, >> >> If you get this please confirm. >> >> Robin, >> >> You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Tapani Tarvainen >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From aelsadr Mon Aug 29 21:09:04 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:09:04 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <228FF909-84DA-41D3-B8D4-B733CF5BBA65@egyptig.org> [Changes Subject Line] Hi Klaus, I?m not sure I understand your question. If you would clarify, I?d be grateful. I?m pretty sure I can?t ensure that the two NCSG members who will be appointed will be members of NPOC, if that?s what you mean. That?s a decision for the full Policy Committee. Noteworthy to mention that there was a call for volunteers for this WG, where anybody could sign up as participants or observers. The deadline to do this was August 19th. Maryam posted the announcement on NCSG-DISCUSS on July 27th (https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1607&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=115142). Currently, there are four NCSG members who have signed up as participants to this WG: 1. Rafik Dammak 2. Avri Doria 3. Pascal Bekono 4. Amr Elsadr The PC will have to select NCSG?s members on this WG, either from within these four, or from outside of them. I?m happy to discuss how we can do this, and again, this can?t be my decision alone. We should also pay attention to the fact that this WG will also assume the mandate of the SCI, if it is disbanded on this week?s Council call, so that?s something we may want to take into consideration when making appointments. NPOC has had active members on the SCI in the past. In fact Rudi has been the SCI Chair for the past year as well as a member of the GNSO Review Working Party, but he unfortunately hasn?t signed up for this WG. Speaking for myself, I?m happy to continue being a participant on the WG, and would prefer not to be either the primary or alternate NCSG member. Would be happy to continue this discussion here, but really do think we should bring it up on our monthly policy call. I hope this helped, Klaus. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: > > Thanks Amr > > Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as primary and alternate members of the GNSO Review working group. > > Thank you > > Klaus > > On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda? >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Amr >> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross > wrote: >>> >>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement again: >>> >>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> From: Robin Gross > >>>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >>>> To: NCSG List > >>>> Cc: NCSG-Policy > >>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments >>>> >>>> All, >>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. >>>> >>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Robin >>>> ====================================================== >>>> >>>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES >>>> >>>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. >>>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. >>>> >>>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. >>>> >>>> >>>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) >>>> >>>> >>>> The duties of members are to >>>> >>>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole >>>> >>>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required >>>> >>>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments >>>> >>>> >>>> CHAIR STRUCTURE >>>> >>>> >>>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. >>>> >>>> >>>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. >>>> >>>> >>>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. >>>> >>>> >>>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: >>>> >>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >>>> M >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: >>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>>>> >>>>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>>>> >>>>> Stephanie >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>>>> Dear PC members, >>>>>> >>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>>>> usual. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From aelsadr Mon Aug 29 21:12:19 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:12:19 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <666f2195-a8a3-c7f6-6f5f-dbce6f97fd13@gmail.com> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <20160829172236.GA6945@tarvainen.info> <666f2195-a8a3-c7f6-6f5f-dbce6f97fd13@gmail.com> Message-ID: Whoops. I guess you can disregard that long email I just sent then!! :) Regarding the GNSO Bylaws DT, I don?t believe that NCUC and NPOC will be appointing members. The membership of that DT was meant to reflect GNSO Council representation, which doesn?t include constituencies from within the NCSG. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: > > Hi, > > Please excuse the confusion > > GNSO Review Working Group: Poncelet and Martin are NPOC appointees with Joan and Klaus as observers. > > I am still unclear with regard to the GNSO Drafting team. As far as I am aware there is nobody from NPOC involved due to a mistake that should be rectified. Any suggestions on how to get this done, more then welcome! > > Yours > > Klaus > > > On 8/29/2016 1:42 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >> Apologies, I?ve now removed Sam from the PC list. Just to be sure: Klaus and Poncelet are NPOC?s two representatives appointed to the PC right now, yes? >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: >>> >>>> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time >>>> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed >>>> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. >>> Hi Sam, >>> >>> You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as >>> he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. >>> >>> Poncelet, >>> >>> If you get this please confirm. >>> >>> Robin, >>> >>> You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Tapani Tarvainen >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From kdrstoll Mon Aug 29 21:08:18 2016 From: kdrstoll (Klaus Stoll) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:08:18 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] GNSO Review Working Group In-Reply-To: <228FF909-84DA-41D3-B8D4-B733CF5BBA65@egyptig.org> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <6ab36a13-7057-e82c-4b07-bc2d3f870ea4@gmail.com> <228FF909-84DA-41D3-B8D4-B733CF5BBA65@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Dear Amr Thanks for the information, and I fully understand that it is not your decision at all. I just wanted to indicate that it would be good to have a NPOC member involved and that the PC member should take this into consideration Yours Klaus On 8/29/2016 2:09 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > [Changes Subject Line] > > Hi Klaus, > > I?m not sure I understand your question. If you would clarify, I?d be > grateful. I?m pretty sure I can?t ensure that the two NCSG members who > will be appointed will be members of NPOC, if that?s what you mean. > That?s a decision for the full Policy Committee. > > Noteworthy to mention that there was a call for volunteers for this > WG, where anybody could sign up as participants or observers. The > deadline to do this was August 19th. Maryam posted the announcement on > NCSG-DISCUSS on July 27th > (https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1607&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&F=&S=&P=115142). > > Currently, there are four NCSG members who have signed up as > participants to this WG: > > 1. Rafik Dammak > 2. Avri Doria > 3. Pascal Bekono > 4. Amr Elsadr > > The PC will have to select NCSG?s members on this WG, either from > within these four, or from outside of them. I?m happy to discuss how > we can do this, and again, this can?t be my decision alone. We should > also pay attention to the fact that this WG will also assume the > mandate of the SCI, if it is disbanded on this week?s Council call, so > that?s something we may want to take into consideration when making > appointments. NPOC has had active members on the SCI in the past. In > fact Rudi has been the SCI Chair for the past year as well as a member > of the GNSO Review Working Party, but he unfortunately hasn?t signed > up for this WG. > > Speaking for myself, I?m happy to continue being a participant on the > WG, and would prefer not to be either the primary or alternate NCSG > member. > > Would be happy to continue this discussion here, but really do think > we should bring it up on our monthly policy call. > > I hope this helped, Klaus. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Klaus Stoll > > wrote: >> >> Thanks Amr >> >> Could you please ensure that NPOC members will be appointed as >> primary and alternate members of the GNSO Review working group. >> >> Thank you >> >> Klaus >> >> >> On 8/29/2016 1:19 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Thanks for this Robin. The PC also needs to appoint primary and >>> alternate members to the GNSO Review Working Group. Perhaps we can >>> include both of these topics as discussion items on the agenda? >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Robin Gross >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to >>>> serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the >>>> announcement again: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> *From: *Robin Gross > >>>>> *Date: *August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >>>>> *To: *NCSG List >>>> > >>>>> *Cc: *NCSG-Policy >>>> > >>>>> *Subject: **[PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process >>>>> Adjustments* >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small >>>>> changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives >>>>> on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / >>>>> co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had >>>>> representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, >>>>> NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. >>>>> >>>>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy >>>>> Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Robin >>>>> >>>>> ====================================================== >>>>> >>>>> *CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES* >>>>> >>>>> *Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen >>>>> according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG.* >>>>> >>>>> *Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that >>>>> there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition.* >>>>> >>>>> *Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then >>>>> stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for >>>>> further selection.* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar >>>>> year. (note: for the initial establishment of member >>>>> representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of >>>>> its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year >>>>> term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new >>>>> procedures being adopted))* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *The duties of members are to* >>>>> >>>>> *1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole* >>>>> >>>>> *2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required* >>>>> >>>>> *3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *CHAIR STRUCTURE* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member >>>>> representatives for two year terms.* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms >>>>> expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs.* >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs >>>>> are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed >>>>> to representatives from broader civil society are approached to >>>>> take on these tasks. * >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> *Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the >>>>> coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement >>>>> representative.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >>>>> M >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day >>>>> on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephanie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>>>>> Dear PC members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>>>>> usual. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or >>>>> entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential >>>>> and/or privileged material. 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I guess you can disregard that long email I just sent then!! :) > > Regarding the GNSO Bylaws DT, I don?t believe that NCUC and NPOC will be appointing members. The membership of that DT was meant to reflect GNSO Council representation, which doesn?t include constituencies from within the NCSG. > > Thanks. > > Amr > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Please excuse the confusion >> >> GNSO Review Working Group: Poncelet and Martin are NPOC appointees with Joan and Klaus as observers. >> >> I am still unclear with regard to the GNSO Drafting team. As far as I am aware there is nobody from NPOC involved due to a mistake that should be rectified. Any suggestions on how to get this done, more then welcome! >> >> Yours >> >> Klaus >> >> >> On 8/29/2016 1:42 PM, Robin Gross wrote: >>> Apologies, I?ve now removed Sam from the PC list. Just to be sure: Klaus and Poncelet are NPOC?s two representatives appointed to the PC right now, yes? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:12:46PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco (lanfran at yorku.ca) wrote: >>>> >>>>> PC team, Sorry to interject another matter at this time >>>>> but I believe the PC-NCSG list management was informed >>>>> that I am to be replaced by NPOC's Poncelet Ilelji. >>>> Hi Sam, >>>> >>>> You are correct. It appears Poncelet has been added as >>>> he should, but you were not removed - no great harm done. >>>> >>>> Poncelet, >>>> >>>> If you get this please confirm. >>>> >>>> Robin, >>>> >>>> You manage the list, would you please remove Sam from it. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tapani Tarvainen >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > From ncsg Mon Aug 29 22:03:41 2016 From: ncsg (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:03:41 +0300 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Policy call time Message-ID: <20160829190341.GA11761@tarvainen.info> FYI. If PC is willing to keep Sam as an observer, he can be added back to the list. Tapani ----- Forwarded message from Sam Lanfranco ----- Tapani, Looks like I was already deleted. Sorry for the confusion. You can add me again: /Got this when I replied to the list: You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at pc-ncsg-owner at ipjustice.org./ Tapani, It is okay to leave me on the list. For personal reasons which I will not bore people with, I will be relatively quiet for the next few months but hope to return to fuller participation early in 2017. Sam On 8/29/2016 1:38 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: Hi Amr, Of course I'd be happy if the PC wants to keep Sam in as an observer. I just understood he wanted to be removed. Sam, could you please clarify your intent? Tapani Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:51:16 -0400 From: Sam Lanfranco To: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org Tapani, It is okay to leave me on the list. For personal reasons which I will not bore people with, I will be relatively quiet for the next few months but hope to return to fuller participation early in 2017. Sam On 8/29/2016 1:38 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Amr, > > Of course I'd be happy if the PC wants to keep Sam in as an observer. > > I just understood he wanted to be removed. > > Sam, could you please clarify your intent? > > Tapani > -- ------------------------------------------------ "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ??????????????????????? ------------------------------------------------ Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852 ----- End forwarded message ----- From maryam.bakoshi Mon Aug 29 22:56:13 2016 From: maryam.bakoshi (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:56:13 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Doodle: Link for poll "NCSG Open Policy Call" In-Reply-To: <316016972.341033.1472500130546.POLL_ADMIN_PARTICIPATELINK@worker1.doodle.com> References: <316016972.341033.1472500130546.POLL_ADMIN_PARTICIPATELINK@worker1.doodle.com> Message-ID: <57872375-7A9D-406E-BD67-BB4378D6AB1D@icann.org> Dear all, Please kindly fill in the doodle poll below, to enable us schedule a date and time for the NCSG Open Policy meeting. http://doodle.com/poll/vmr7b58vxrs4kemb This doodle poll will close at 1000 UTC on Tuesday 30 August 2016 Many thankd -- Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support ? NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) S: maryam.bakoshi.icann T: +44 7737698036 From aelsadr Tue Aug 30 02:44:50 2016 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 01:44:50 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: [council] Two Letter gTLD Domains References: <8E84A14FB84B8141B0E4713BAFF5B84E21245B68@Exchange.sierracorporation.com> Message-ID: Hi, This just in from the Council list. I believe we should encourage discussion and actively engage on this, particularly since it was the work of some of our members that helped prompt the topic being brought up. I know the topics are piling up, but this is also something we should probably go over during our monthly call. Thanks. Amr > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Phil Corwin > Subject: [council] Two Letter gTLD Domains > Date: August 30, 2016 at 1:19:13 AM GMT+2 > To: "council at gnso.icann.org" > > Council colleagues: > > Over the weekend Milton Mueller posted a rather provocative blog athttp://www.internetgovernance.org/2016/08/26/another-government-land-grab-in-the-name-space/ , concerning the just-closed comment period on Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels to Avoid Confusion with Corresponding Country Codes (at https://www.icann.org/public-comments/proposed-measures-two-char-2016-07-08-en ). It prompted me to review the filed comments, and I noted that the NCSG, IPC, and registry SG all came out against aspects of the staff proposal that concerns Prof. Mueller. > > While this item is not on our agenda for the September 1st call, I would hope that we can at least begin a preliminary discussion during the concluding AOB section. I would like to better understand the historic context for the current proposal. Beyond the specifics of the proposal, my more general concern is that ICANN may be moving to implement a general policy for gTLDs that originates from ICANN staff rather than a PDP, and that apparently there is not even GAC Consensus Advice to which the proposal is responding. > > Thanks and best regards, > Philip > > > Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal > Virtualaw LLC > 1155 F Street, NW > Suite 1050 > Washington, DC 20004 > 202-559-8597/Direct > 202-559-8750/Fax > 202-255-6172/Cell > > Twitter: @VlawDC > > "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe we should encourage > discussion and actively engage on this, particularly since it was the work > of some of our members that helped prompt the topic being brought up. > > I know the topics are piling up, but this is also something we should > probably go over during our monthly call. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Phil Corwin > *Subject: **[council] Two Letter gTLD Domains* > *Date: *August 30, 2016 at 1:19:13 AM GMT+2 > *To: *"council at gnso.icann.org" > > Council colleagues: > > Over the weekend Milton Mueller posted a rather provocative blog at > http://www.internetgovernance.org/2016/08/26/another-government-land- > grab-in-the-name-space/ , concerning the just-closed comment period on > Proposed Measures for Letter/Letter Two-Character ASCII Labels to Avoid > Confusion with Corresponding Country Codes (at > https://www.icann.org/public-comments/proposed-measures- > two-char-2016-07-08-en). It prompted me to review the filed comments, and > I noted that the NCSG, IPC, and registry SG all came out against aspects of > the staff proposal that concerns Prof. Mueller. > > While this item is not on our agenda for the September 1st call, I would > hope that we can at least begin a preliminary discussion during the > concluding AOB section. I would like to better understand the historic > context for the current proposal. Beyond the specifics of the proposal, my > more general concern is that ICANN may be moving to implement a general > policy for gTLDs that originates from ICANN staff rather than a PDP, and > that apparently there is not even GAC Consensus Advice to which the > proposal is responding. > > Thanks and best regards, > Philip > > > *Philip S. 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Many thanks, Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC & NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) E: Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann T: +44 7737698036 > On 29 Aug 2016, at 20:56, Maryam Bakoshi wrote: > > Dear all, > > Please kindly fill in the doodle poll below, to enable us schedule a date and time for the NCSG Open Policy meeting. > > http://doodle.com/poll/vmr7b58vxrs4kemb > > This doodle poll will close at 1000 UTC on Tuesday 30 August 2016 > > Many thankd > > -- > Maryam Bakoshi > Secretariat Support ? NCSG/NCUC/NPOC > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > S: maryam.bakoshi.icann > T: +44 7737698036 > > From maryam.bakoshi Tue Aug 30 14:09:16 2016 From: maryam.bakoshi (Maryam Bakoshi) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:09:16 +0000 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Doodle Poll results: NCSG Open Policy meeting Message-ID: <8E9042D4-E3BD-4237-9945-94D9699A1E59@icann.org> Dear all, Thank you to all who filled in the doodle poll. Based on the result of the doodle poll, please note that the NCSG Open Policy meeting would hold tomorrow Wednesday 31 August 2016, 0900 UTC. Calendar invite to follow. Many thanks, -- Maryam Bakoshi Secretariat Support ? NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) S: maryam.bakoshi.icann T: +44 7737698036 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave Wed Aug 31 09:56:19 2016 From: dave (David Cake) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:56:19 +0800 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net> If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. David > On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement again: > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Robin Gross > >> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >> To: NCSG List > >> Cc: NCSG-Policy > >> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments >> >> All, >> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. >> >> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >> >> Thanks, >> Robin >> ====================================================== >> >> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES >> >> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. >> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. >> >> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. >> >> >> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) >> >> >> The duties of members are to >> >> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole >> >> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required >> >> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments >> >> >> CHAIR STRUCTURE >> >> >> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. >> >> >> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. >> >> >> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. >> >> >> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. >> >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: >> >> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >> M >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: >> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >> >>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>> >>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>> >>> Stephanie >>> >>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>> Dear PC members, >>>> >>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>> usual. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>> >>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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URL: From wjdrake Wed Aug 31 09:58:31 2016 From: wjdrake (William Drake) Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:58:31 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Policy call time In-Reply-To: <6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net> References: <20160829142552.GA31082@tarvainen.info> <8f3ca8f0-cb4a-28c3-d0b9-948990df1e34@mail.utoronto.ca> <6C464E09-2282-4664-B082-3D237ACA9832@davecake.net> Message-ID: <64FACCD1-6E75-4CFA-AB33-C2F08509BCD5@gmail.com> Hi I would strongly support letting CSCG have some Cake :-) Bill > On Aug 31, 2016, at 08:56, David Cake wrote: > > If no one else is interested in taking up this responsibility, I?d be willing to do so. I?m also a member of some of the other groups represented on the CSCG, and I?ve served on a NomCom for one of them (IGC). > That said, I?m only offering because this is overdue and has had no discussion or interest at all - there are certainly several people I think are better qualified, and I would encourage them to indicate their interest. > > David > >> On 30 Aug 2016, at 12:59 AM, Robin Gross > wrote: >> >> Just a quick reminder that NCSG PC needs to pick a 2nd person to serve on the Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG). Here?s the announcement again: >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Robin Gross > >>> Date: August 12, 2016 at 7:29:39 AM PDT >>> To: NCSG List > >>> Cc: NCSG-Policy > >>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Civil Society Coordination Group Process Adjustments >>> >>> All, >>> The Civil Society Coordination Group (CSCG) is making some small changes, including each coalition will soon have 2 representatives on the CSCG and a regular process for selecting chairs / co-chairs. Previously CSCG members, including NCSG, only had representative per coalition (me). But beginning this September, NCSG can have 2 representatives on the group. Details are below. >>> >>> As per NCSG?s charter, I leave it up to Tapani and NCSG?s Policy Committee to fill new slot on the CSCG. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> ====================================================== >>> >>> CSCG - MEMBER REPRESENTATIVES >>> >>> Each coalition member has two (2) representatives, chosen according to their own internal processes, on the CSCG. >>> Each representative serves a term of two years, staggered so that there is an annual replacement of one representative per coalition. >>> >>> Representatives can serve two consecutive terms, but must then stand down for at least 12 months before being eligible for further selection. >>> >>> >>> Replenishment should take place in September of each calendar year. (note: for the initial establishment of member representatives in 2016, each coalition should nominate which of its members should serve a two year term, and which a one year term. Any time served prior to 2016 does not count in new procedures being adopted)) >>> >>> >>> The duties of members are to >>> >>> 1. Consider the interests of civil society as a whole >>> >>> 2. Serve on Nomcoms regularly as required >>> >>> 3. Communicate with their coalitions on CSCG developments >>> >>> >>> CHAIR STRUCTURE >>> >>> >>> A Chair, and up to 2 Co-chairs, will be selected by CSCG member representatives for two year terms. >>> >>> >>> Each September (as necessary when chair and co-chair member terms expire), the CSCG members will select Chairs and Co-chairs. >>> >>> >>> It is up to the CSCG to determine whether Chairs and Co-chairs are selected from the CSCG membership, or whether mutually agreed to representatives from broader civil society are approached to take on these tasks. >>> >>> >>> Where an elected Chair is a coalition representative, the coalition will be given the option to nominate a replacement representative. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Marilia Maciel > wrote: >>> >>> I could make it tomorrow or Wednesday. >>> M >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Milan, Stefania > wrote: >>> i could make it tomorrow (except 6-9pm CET) but busy whole day on Wednesday for the annual dead-boring diploma ceremony >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 16:49, Stephanie Perrin > wrote: >>> >>>> There is the usual RDS call tomorrow, 16:00 UTC. >>>> >>>> I have house guests and may not be available. >>>> >>>> Stephanie >>>> >>>> On 2016-08-29 10:25, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: >>>>> Dear PC members, >>>>> >>>>> My apologies for being late with this. There's a council call on >>>>> Thursday as you know, and we should have a policy call before it as >>>>> usual. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I am tied tomorrow almost all day - the only >>>>> time I could manage tomorrow is 0400 UTC. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively, we could move it to Wednesday. I'll look at possible >>>>> timeslots then and probably set up a doodle poll in a moment, but >>>>> if you can immediately point to some times you know won't work >>>>> (some other meetings you will be or know some of our councillors >>>>> will be), please let me know ASAP. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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