[PC-NCSG] Fwd: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi Ed,

We have to decide first who to nominate for chair election from NCPH. The
deadline for ncph is 25th september. That process and timeline are already
outlined by GNSO council. After that  we will do election the vice chair at
ncph level.
Procedure for vice-chair  was already agreed for this year.

Rafik
On Sep 18, 2015 9:17 PM, "Edward Morris" <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> Thanks for doing all of this.
>
> Could you clarify for me, and perhaps the others who are going through
> this for the first time, what exactly we're deciding? There are obviously
> many things going on here (Chair, VC, nomination, election, procedures)
> which overlap two different Councils and for which all moving parts are not
> yet in place.
>
> Sorry for being a bit slow on the uptake.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Friday, September 18, 2015 12:33 PM
> *To*: "NCSG-Policy" <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
> *Subject*: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
> for
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> response from steve to David suggestion.
> the call with Heather will be held in Wednesday. how shall we make
> decision after that? an ad-hoc call or just via the mailing list?
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>
> Date: 2015-09-17 22:25 GMT+09:00
> Subject: RE: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
> for
> To: Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>, "avri at acm.org" <avri at acm.org>
> Cc: David Cake <dave at difference.com.au>, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>,
> Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>, Marilia Maciel <
> mariliamaciel at gmail.com>, Heather Forrest <Heather.Forrest at acu.edu.au>,
> "David Fares (dfares at 21cf.com)" <dfares at 21cf.com>, "Greg Shatan (
> gregshatanipc at gmail.com)" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, "Metalitz, Steven" <
> met at msk.com>, "Philip Corwin (psc at vlaw-dc.com)" <psc at vlaw-dc.com>, Tony
> Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, "Tony Holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)"
> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>
>
>
>
> NCSG colleagues,
>
>
>
> I have consulted with CSG Executive Committee (copied in here) and there
> is no objection to the position that if a CSG person (e.g., Heather) is
> elected council chair, then the council vice chair for our House should not
> come from CSG.
>
>
>
> I understand you are working to set up a call with Heather to discuss her
> council chair candidacy.  If that goes well, please let me know so that we
> can work out the specifics of making a joint nomination by the Sept. 25
> deadline.
>
>
>
> If Heather is ultimately elected then we can proceed to the vice chair
> selection process, using the modified version of Avri?s proposal, with the
> expectation that no one from CSG would be nominated.
>
>
>
> Steve Metalitz
>
>
>
> *From:* Edward Morris [mailto:egmorris1 at toast.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 11:39 AM
> *To:* avri at acm.org
> *Cc:* David Cake; Amr Elsadr; Rafik Dammak; Metalitz, Steven; Stephanie
> Perrin; Marilia Maciel; Heather Forrest
> *Subject:* Re: GNSO council chair elections WAS RE: FW:
> [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time
> for
>
>
>
> I agree as well. It makes things a bit simpler and more straightforward.
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > this makes sense to me.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 15-Sep-15 10:21, David Cake wrote:
> >>>>> On 15 Sep 2015, at 8:31 pm, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Steve, Rafik and all, >> >> Apologies about my late response to
> > this message. >> >>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Rafik Dammak
> > <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> [SNIP] >> >>> About your question
> > below, yes I think that is about considering them in tandem at least to
> > shorten the process we also assume that there is interrelation between
> > selecting a vice-chair and nominating a candidate for chair. Amr may
> > add more details here. >> >> This wasn?t originally my suggestion, but I
> > did support this being a discussion item. Of course, Steve is correct.
> > The chair and vice-chair election/selection processes are very
> > different, and carried out by different groups. However, my personal
> > thought on this matter is that it would be desirable to avoid having
> > both a council chair and vice-chair from the same stakeholder group of
> > the NCPH. > > Yes. > My experience as vice-chair is that while I
> > don?t think its a regular problem, I think there are some situations in
> > which it might be a governance issue if 2 of the 3 council leadership
> > positions were held by the same SG. I don?t think we need to combine the
> > two procedures into a single unified one, a simple rule that if we have
> > an NCPH chair, the vice-chair is from the other NCPH SG regardless of
> > any rotation rules, would be reasonable. > I actually think this
> > rule might be in NCPH interests - I think the CPH might be more likely
> > to vote for an NCPH chair if they know that there will be some balance,
> > and the Chair is definitely more important. > Regards > > David
> >
> >
> >
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