[PC-NCSG] Leaderless GNSO

[Stephanie Perrin]

1.  Amr, don't beat yourself up, we walked into a trap in my opinion.
2.  I agree with David that there is no need to rush into appointing her 
as Vice Chair.
Hurt feelings are not, quite frankly, appropriate at this level. You 
lose, no big deal.  We are all adults.
3.  Let us take our time and not be rushed into anything.  This is why I 
asked for the PC meeting ASAP.  We need to assess the situation and talk 
about strategy.
4.  I want to print Tshirts for tomorrow that say "dont blame NCSG for 
the GNSO mess.  Not us."
SP
On 2015-10-21 13:44, Edward Morris wrote:
> I agree with David's perspective on this matter. The selection of Vice Chair should not be rushed because of the situation we find ourselves in. Volker can and will do a fine job, I'm sure.
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:25 PM, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> I just object to having essentially a separate VC election procedures simply to salve Heathers hurt feelings.
>>
>> If they want her to be their *actual* vice-chair candidate, I?d be happy to endorse her, but thats not something to do in haste.
>>
>> Its procedurally weird and unnecessary and adds confusion when we need clarity.
>>
>> Volker can chair the meeting (as the CPH have endorsed him). He?ll be fine. No one will object. We do not need two vice-chairs just to run the wrap-up session.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 6:10 pm, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, the way I see it, we contributed significantly to creating this mess. I personally hold myself responsible.
>>>
>>> I was part of the conversation with the CSG that led to the NCPH candidacy of Heather. I failed to properly inform them that although we endorsed her candidacy, there was no guarantee that our councillors would vote for her.
>>>
>>> The way I see it, we agreed to her as a NCPH candidate. Why not endorse her as a temporary VC?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:52 PM, David Cake <dave at DIFFERENCE.COM.AU> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would just not have an NCPH VC for the next few days if the CSG aren?t interested in just temporarily re-endorsing me. The CPH will probably be sensible enough to endorse Volker, and he will do fine.
>>>> This shouldn?t be another emergency sub-election, its just chairing a meeting or two. Re-endorse existing VCs, or not. The CSG made the problem, they can live with it.
>>>>
>>>> Its actually kind of a burden on staff, IMO, to bring a new person in for potentially just a week or two.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 5:42 pm, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Following today?s failure to elect a GNSO Council Chair, I want to propose to the CSG folks that the NCPH appoint Heather as an interim VC. We need somebody to chair tomorrow?s wrap-up session. Also, if they CSG decides they would like another CSG councillor besides Heather to serve in that capacity, I don?t really mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to act on this quickly. Are there any objections to this suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
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