[PC-NCSG] NCSG Informal Meeting on the Topic of GNSO Council Chair Elections

[Stephanie Perrin]

This meeting has moved to the lunchroom on the ground floor, since some 
of us have to eat prior to the meeting.  Please join us.  All are welcome!
Stephanie

On 2015-10-21 7:17, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> Again, I?m not sure I understand. You would prefer that we don?t coordinate among ourselves as a group, but are in favour of individual one-on-one interaction?
>
> I?m also not sure why you think the purpose is to lobby for the candidate of my preference. My concern is specifically that you have taken the time to lobby for a candidate, while we have not held a group discussion about this pointing out all the perspectives on this topic. I believe that all views should be shared, and I also believe that this is part of the duty of the PC chair. The fact that you have chosen not to participate puts us in a position where your view will not be presented by you. I will not withdraw the invitation on this basis.
>
> Although, in my individual capacity, I am in favour of James chairing the GNSO Council, I hope you will at least acknowledge that as PC Chair, I have encouraged discussion on this list of Heather?s candidacy following her call with us, and the publication of her candidate statement. However, if you believe that I am in anyway abusing my role as PC Chair, I would encourage you to express these views, not only on this list, but perhaps on NCSG-DISCUSS?
>
> I would like to ask you this, though. Would it make you feel better if we took minutes of our discussion? I do admit that you have a point on the meeting not being recorded, but there are other means by which we can document what folks say. I will make sure that this is done.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amr,
>>
>> I believe it is inappropriate for the Chair of the Policy Committee to call for a private unrecorded meeting of Councillors, on the PC list, because of his concern about how people are going to vote in the election, given his well known support of a certain candidate.
>>
>> I have no problem if you sent out individual email invites or personally asked people to come together to talk about things or to lobby for your candidate. It is not appropriate to use this list to do so given your position as PC Chair.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Amr,
>>>>
>>>> I will not be attending this meeting both because I have a conflict and because I can already anticipate what your concerns are. You have already expressed them to me and, I understand, others.
>>>>
>>>> I respect each and every one of my Council colleagues and expect all of us will follow our own conscious and judgement in the vote and do what we feel is best for our members. I am concerned that overt electioneering of a more pressured kind does not respect the independence we grant our Councillors. If there was a desire to bind us on this vote there was ample time to do so and formal procedures in place to do so.
>>>>
>>>> I would encourage others not to attend this meeting. The best source of information are the candidates themselves, not their supporters, and James and Heather are both readily available to meet.
>>> I?m puzzled by this, Ed. I have no objection to anyone speaking to the candidates, but why do you object to us speaking among ourselves as a group? You, yourself, have been actively speaking to some of our councillors on this topic in private, but you object to us all meeting to discuss it together? Why do you believe it is wrong to do so?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>
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