[PC-NCSG] Proposed subject change for board meeting tomorrow
Sam Lanfranco
lanfran
Wed Oct 21 01:52:58 EEST 2015
Okay, Think I have the context now. If this:
/We understand that ICANN?s Board faces pressure from specific interest
group, but urge ICANN?s Board not to put ICANN staff or the community in
the position of content arbiters. It is outside the remit of this
organization and creates a slippery slope./
is what was meant by "... /propose that we replace that subject with the
issue of content regulation/".
then I got it and support pressing this point one more time.
Sam L.
On 2015-10-20 5:17 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>
>
> Here you go:
>
> We are aware that earlier today the IPC asked the CEO and the Board to
> have ICANN play a greater role in content regulation. The IPC
> suggested that ICANN leverage its contractual compliance powers to
> require registries and registrars to adopt and implement so-called
> voluntary standards. The Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups
> strongly urge the Board to not become involved in this debate.
>
> Our contracts are with ICANN. ICANN?s exercise of its contractual
> compliance powers as requested by the IPC would render such standards
> anything but voluntary. A statement that there needs to be teeth
> behind ?voluntary standards?, particularly when made by the party
> involved in a contract, means they are no longer voluntary. Moreover,
> many of the terms requested by the IPC could in some cases remove
> legal protections provided to registries and registrars under relevant
> national safe harbor laws. Finally, the IPC is essentially seeking
> rights from ICANN that they have been unable to secure from
> legislatures globally.
>
> We understand that ICANN?s Board faces pressure from specific interest
> group, but urge ICANN?s Board not to put ICANN staff or the community
> in the position of content arbiters. It is outside the remit of this
> organization and creates a slippery slope.
>
> We believe that ICANN compliance should rightly be involved in working
> to see that all registrars should respond to requests under RAA
> section 3.18. While the IP Community may not always be satisfied with
> every response they receive, the vast majority of submissions are
> responded to and a significant portion of those requests are resolved
> to satisfaction. Registrars who do not respond to validly formed
> submissions should be pursued. While we recognize that groups such as
> the IPC have a right to bring any matter they desire to the Board and
> staff, we would welcome a dialog with them and would request that the
> Board feel free to advise them to approach us directly, especially on
> matters that are outside the remit of ICANN.
>
>
>
> On Oct 20, 2015 5:10 PM, "Stephanie Perrin"
> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:
>
> Do you have the text of that Kathy, we are meeting with them now,
> are you on line?
> SP
>
> On 2015-10-20 11:40, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>> +1 Matthew. I watched the Registrar/Registry agreement with the
>> Board today and they read a strong statement asked ICANN to stay
>> out of content. Apparently the IPC presented a letter to the
>> Board today asking ICANN to get much more involved in content
>> issues -- asking for "voluntary standards" but "with teeth" (this
>> is 2nd hand as I have not seen the letter). But voluntary
>> standards with teeth mean binding commitments - and outside the PDPs.
>>
>> I don't know if our call on content with Alan Grogan, ICANN's
>> compliance officer, ever took place. But this would be a good
>> time for us to add to our noncommercial voices to the call for
>> ICANN to stay out of content -- and support ICANN. Because Fadi
>> has said, and said again in today's session, that ICANN should
>> stay out of it too.
>>
>> If someone takes the lead, I am happy to help in the background.
>> It could be a short, but very important, point.
>> Best,
>> Kathy
>>
>> On 10/20/2015 11:33 AM, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> As I don't believe we have anything to particularly say or ask
>>> of the Board on public interest tomorrow (at least that I can
>>> determine) and would like to propose that we replace that
>>> subject with the issue of _content regulation_ as there is much
>>> discussion of the issue at the moment.
>>>
>>> If you agree, someone would have to agree to speak on this. (I
>>> certainly am not knowledgeable enough).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>> --
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>>> Center for Democracy & Technology
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