[PC-NCSG] NCSG Open Policy Meeting | 17 November 2015 | 1600 UTC

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak
Tue Nov 17 07:56:09 EET 2015


Hi Bill,

I think that first step would be to encourage other counterparts to reach
Tapani as NCSG chair and/or Amr as PC chair to get clarification about NCSG
official position or at least elicit the process to work on it when needed.


regarding coordination, I think that PC should play role (among others like
planning for public comments) on that and liaise with our representatives
more frequently to get updates or ask for feedback from other participants
in WGs ( except NCSG rep to cross-community working groups, others members
participate in their own capacity). we are trying to do that at NCSG policy
call but it is not enough.
unfortunately, it is unlikely for me to attend today call at 1:00am so that
is my comment for this topic :)

Best,

Rafik

2015-11-16 1:46 GMT+09:00 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>:

> Hi from the peanut gallery
>
> On Nov 14, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG
> <aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>
> I am not opposed to adding this as an agenda item to the monthly NCSG
> policy meeting, as long as it is clear that it is only for the purpose of
> discussion, and that no decision on this issue will be made during the call.
>
>
> Irrespective of whether we ever choose to go down the path of binding for
> anything, it might be worth discussion whether there's a case for at least
> some means of enhanced coordination among and tracking positions of our
> reps in Council, WGs, CCWGs---anything where we are interfacing with the
> rest of the ?community? on divisive issues.  I assume that I am not alone
> in frequently getting private messages from perplexed folks from xyz
> grouping asking ?is this person giving a NC position, or just a personal
> position??  Some people seem to find it a bit difficult  to bargain with us
> and engage in the usual horse trading, give and take, etc. when they don?t
> quite understand the status of the views being expressed and what?s behind
> these.  It makes me think of the academic literature on ?credible
> commitments? in international institutions and foreign policy; counterparts
> who cannot judge the solidity of positions and their support can find it
> difficult to know what stock to place in them, or may react by trying to
> split coalitions or just cut us out the deal making.  I?m not suggesting
> some sort of stalinist enforcement of uniformity and the repression of
> individual views, just calling attention to the potential unintended
> consequences of how we operate and saying whatever we do should be eyes
> wide open with due consideration given.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
>
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