[PC-NCSG] [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool

Amr Elsadr aelsadr
Thu May 28 14:11:04 EEST 2015 

Hi Stephanie,

A few working groups I?ve been on have used the public comment review tool (PCRT), which always proved to be very helpful. As Avri has already noted, every comment submitted is always included and addressed in the PCRT, however, the calculation of trends is new to me. As far as I know, the CWG?s use of trends is the first time this has been done (but I stand to be corrected if I am mistaken on this).

I don?t expect the PCRT to be problematic in the PPSAI context.

Thanks.

Amr

On May 27, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:

> Well, the proof of the synthesis will be in the eating, as they say about puddings.  Has anyone ever done a study on the analysis of comments?  The EWG did not set me up for a feeling of confidence.
> cheers SP
> 
> On 2015-05-23 0:54, Avri Doria wrote:
>> hi,
>> 
>> If you look at the review tool, you know that of course it will be
>> included.  And the common practice, which i do not suppose with change
>> for the group you are in, is to work through each and every comment.
>> 
>> But it can hardly be included among the trends, if it did not trend.
>> 
>> I will not opine on your mental state.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
>> 
>> On 23-May-15 00:49, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>> Call me paranoid, but I was worried about that new review tool.  Does
>>> this mean we have to have a certain percentage of the comments to have
>>> our comments duly noted?  Sure looks like it.....I am of course
>>> thinking about our upcoming comments on PPSAI and WHOIS accuracy.....
>>> Stephanie P
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment
>>> summary and review tool
>>> Date: 	Fri, 22 May 2015 16:41:10 -0400
>>> From: 	Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>
>>> To: 	Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>
>>> CC: 	cwg-stewardship at icann.org <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>, Brenda
>>> Brewer <brenda.brewer at icann.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Correct.
>>> 
>>> B.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com
>>> <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     That does help Bernie.  In other words, if an opinion wasn???t
>>>     supported by at least 10% of the commenters, i.e., at least 4
>>>     commenters, it was included in the numbers for the trend presentation.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Chuck
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     *From:*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>]
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 3:41 PM
>>>     *To:* Gomes, Chuck
>>>     *Cc:* Grace Abuhamad; cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>; Brenda Brewer
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment
>>>     summary and review tool
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Chuck,
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Exactly what it says, if for a given category 10% or more of
>>>     respondents stated an opinion for or against it was included.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Does this help?
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     B.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com
>>>     <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>     Thanks a lot to everyone on the staff team for doing this so
>>>     quickly.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     On  slide 4 of the presentation showing the major trends, what
>>>     does the following statement mean: ???Those categories
>>>     representing more than 10% of responses are presented in this
>>>     document.????
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Chuck
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org>
>>>     [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Grace
>>>     Abuhamad
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 2:34 PM
>>>     *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>>     *Cc:* Brenda Brewer
>>>     *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment
>>>     summary and review tool
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Dear all,
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Staff has compiled a summary overview of the pubic comment
>>>     submissions and filled out a public comment review tool, noting
>>>     responses and specific action items for the CWG-Stewardship to
>>>     consider. Please review these documents and suggest edits based on
>>>     your assessment of the public comment submissions. The proposed
>>>     actions for the CWG-Stewardship are highlighted in */blue/* in the
>>>     response column (far right).
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     The Public Comment Review Tool is very long and may be difficult
>>>     to read. This is due to staff???s approach in thorough and
>>>     detailed review. *We will provide a more digestible,
>>>     action-focused, version of this tool for Tuesday???s meeting. *We
>>>     are providing the long version to you today to demonstrate our
>>>     work progress and preparation for next week???s high-intensity
>>>     meetings.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     While the Public Comment Review Tool is very detailed, the summary
>>>     overview is presented in a presentation format and focuses more on
>>>     the ???bigger picture???. Depending on your review-style, you may
>>>     be inclined to start with one or the other document.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Also, please note that these documents incorporate all (44)
>>>     submissions received up until the deadline on 20 May at 23:59
>>>     UTC. As of 22 May at 16:00 UTC, there are (7) late submissions.
>>>     These submissions have not yet been incorporated in this document
>>>     but will be added in time for the high-intensity meetings (along
>>>     with the submissions received based on the extension for those who
>>>     are reliant on translations).
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     As a reminder, Brenda kindly pulled all the submissions together
>>>     on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/o5A0Aw. You can
>>>     download all the files at once (like a zip file) by clicking
>>>     on the ???download all??? button at the bottom left side of the
>>>     macro.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>     Have a good (submission-reading-filled) weekend,
>>> 
>>>     Grace
>>> 
>>> 
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