From rafik.dammak Fri May 1 06:01:56 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 12:01:56 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] PC Endorsement Request In-Reply-To: References: <55413307.8060607@kathykleiman.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, the deadline passed few hours ago and I didn't see any objection either here or in NCSG list. I do think we call the statement endorse as NCSG comment. I will send it later to the public forum. Thanks everybody for your support. Best, Rafik 2015-04-30 17:17 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > Hi, > > the deadline to submit is 1st May 23:59UTC, I would give more time to let > the rest of PC members to express their support till 30th April 20:00UTC (I > used the timestamp for the email sent by Kathy). after that deadline, we > can call the statement endorsed by NCSG PC. > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2015-04-30 5:22 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris : > >> Hello NCSG PC colleagues, >> >> I'm sorry for my brevity but I'm currently in transit. >> >> Time is short and we'd need an immediate response from everyone but I >> would propose that we endorse Kathy's well written public comment on the >> Draft Rights Protection Mechanism Review (follows in this transmission). As >> Kathy has written, these issues are a historical concern of the NCSG and >> the positions Kathy has enunciated are a fundamental part of who we are. >> >> Amr, I'm still not sure of the formal procedure for getting a PC >> endorsement of a public comment but if it is at all possible to reach an >> affirmative consensus I would propose that we try to do so. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ed Morris >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* Kathy Kleiman >> *Date:* April 29, 2015 at 8:37:43 PM GMT+1 >> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU >> *Subject:* *Comments on the Draft Rights Protection Mechanism Review >> paper - now finishing ICANN Public Comment* >> *Reply-To:* Kathy Kleiman >> >> Dear All, >> >> ICANN has published a draft of its ?Rights Protection Mechanisms Review? >> to ask whether the ?rights protection mechanisms? of the New gTLD Program >> work. These include the Trademark Clearinghouse (TMCH), mandatory Sunrise >> Period in all gTLD to allow trademark owners to register first, Uniform >> Rapid Suspension (URS) process, etc. >> >> The young NCSG played a special role in this process in 2009-2010. We >> spent 7 weeks in tight negotiations with the other Stakeholder Groups to >> try to balance the rights of intellectual property owners with those of >> new/small businesses, noncommercial entities, users of all stripes and the >> registry/registrar communities. The NCSG team on the ?STI? (?Special >> Trademark Issues? Working Group was Robin Gross, Konstantinos Komaitis, >> Wendy Seltzer and me with Mary Wong and Leslie Guanyuan as our Alternates. >> >> Now as this all comes up for review again, I think ICANN Staff has lost >> its way. This Draft Rights Protection Mechanism (RPM) report does not >> mention anything about the fairness and balance we tried to put in; it does >> not ask whether abuse about whether Registrants receive good education >> about the new domain name dispute proceeding for the URS and its defenses >> (the answer is No) or whether legitimate ?fair use? of words in domain >> names are truly being protected. >> >> Accordingly, I share a set of comments I have drafted. These are due >> shortly (sorry, ICANN?s Proxy/Privacy Accreditation Working Group kept us >> busy!) ? tomorrow (Thursday) ? *so I circulate them to all who would >> like to sign on. * >> >> So far, no one has responded to this draft report with any interest in >> freedom of expression, fair use or the rights of Registrants. I guess >> that?s our job :-)! >> >> Link: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/rpm-review-2015-02-02-en >> >> Best, >> >> Kathy (Kleiman) >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Comments Submitted by Members of the Noncommercial Stakeholders Group >> >> Thank you for the publication of the DRAFT Rights Protection Mechanisms >> Review paper. Clearly an enormous amount of work was done to compile and >> analyze quantitative and qualitative data on the use of specially-created >> mechanisms in the New gTLDs, such as the Trademark Clearinghouse, Trademark >> Claims and Uniform Rapid Suspension. >> >> It is very important, however, that the questions being asked in the >> report, and all future reports on this subject, be expanded to reflect the >> whole of the GNSO and ICANN?s goals in passing these rules: were >> existing rights protected, were existing fair use protections maintained >> and did ICANN avoid the creation of new or expanded intellectual property >> rights (which ICANN has no power or authority to create)? >> >> With the details as set out below, we urge that the final report expand >> its inquiry to see if the balance and fairness included in these mechanisms >> worked for all parties: both rights holders and registrants. Did these >> programs reflect the full range of goals and commitments for all parties >> that ICANN set out in their adoption? >> >> *We respectfully request that we would like to see more of these issues >> of balance and fairness raised in the final report. For example, when the >> final report goes out to the Community with questions of whether the URS >> (Uniform Rapid Suspension) worked for trademark owners, we also should be >> asking whether the URS worked for New gTLD Registrants and what obstacles >> they faced to education and information in responding to URS claims. * >> >> *So the comments below both respond to questions raised by ICANN Staff ? >> and new ones that we would like ICANN Staff to raise in the final version >> of this RPM Review to ensure that all sides and concerns are heard in the >> feedback that ICANN seeks.* >> >> *Specifically: * >> >> 1. In Section 3.2.2 *Trademark Clearinghouse Word Marks: *The >> section raises some good points that should be addressed more directly. The >> GNSO adopted rules for the protection of ?word marks? ? as in the specific >> text of a mark and the letters, numbers and symbols it may use, e.g., >> HASBRO. The GNSO rules specifically did not embrace the registration of >> ?design marks,? a mark containing both wording and design features in which >> the font, the colors and the artistic elements are all part of the features >> protected by the trademark ? and the individual letters and words are >> expressly NOT protected outside of the design packaging in which they are >> presented. >> >> >> >> The GNSO?s STI Recommendation specifically *did not* consider it fair to >> provide the extensive protection of the Sunrise Period and the Trademark >> Claims notices to lettering within a design mark ? lettering offering >> ?disclaimed? and expressly not protected as text alone and in isolation of >> its design ? and yet that is precisely what the Trademark Clearinghouse >> (TMCH) has gone ahead and accepted. Domain names and URLs don?t have >> design elements. >> >> >> >> We strongly request further inquiry into: how many design marks have been >> accepted? How many of them expressly disclaim the very letters and words >> that the TMCH is now protecting? How can we return to the original intent >> of the GNSO/STI rules and the limits adopted by the GNSO Council and ICANN >> Board? >> >> >> >> 2. *Section 3.3* *Proof of Use* is an important feature of the >> TMCH; it is designed to prevent gaming of the system and unfair advantage >> to certain new registrants over others. In addition to requesting feedback >> from those who have used the Clearinghouse verification and Sunrise >> registration processes, it is important to request input from those who >> have observed these practices and wish to comment on whether the balance >> and intent to prevent individuals/organizations/companies from grabbing >> Sunrise spots without any existing trademark use has been met. Should the >> use requirements be expanded ? e.g., to trademarks of a certain age such as >> one year? >> >> >> >> 3. *Section 3.4 Matching Rules*: This is an important section as >> the rules of the GNSO?s STI were specially crafted to allow only exact >> matches. What the section does not include, and should, is why that >> decision was made. Going beyond ?exact matches? created a firestorm of >> trouble for what is one person?s ?mark contained? is another person word. >> Inclusion of examples in the next version of this paper would be key to >> illustrating the point. Thus, an existing trademark in ENOM (an >> ICANN-Accredited Registrar), but such rules, would create a bar on the >> domain name registration of VENOM ? and entirely different word (and one >> itself also trademarked now and it will be again and again in the future). >> Similarly, the ___ registrations of GOGGLE in the US Trademark Office did >> not prevent the registration of the domain name GOOGLE.COM or the >> registration of GOOGLE as a trademark in the US Trademark Office. >> >> >> >> A few clear illustrations would convey the ambiguity and difficulty of >> going beyond an ?exact match? and shed light on the rationale of the >> existing rule ? a balanced approach as the next draft asks for additional >> input and possible changes. >> >> >> >> 4. *Section 3.5 Trademark Clearinghouse Communications*: In the >> next version and other related inquiries, we would like ICANN Staff to >> reflect a much broader question. Should the goal have been only ?to >> reach trademark holders worldwide to inform them of the services related to >> the Clearinghouse via webinars and Q&F sessions? or should it have been to >> inform the worldwide community of a massive change in the rules of >> registration of domain names in the New gTLDs and a new set of protections >> and notices that ALL registrants should know about and understand. Did >> the TMCH devote even one second or one dollar to outreach, webinars and Q&A >> session to explain the impact of the Trademark [Claims] Notice to those >> receiving it, to answer questions that may arise from ambiguities or the >> publication of this new type of notice, or to ensure that those registrants >> who the Trademark Notice was meant to protect were not artificially >> ?chilled? from moving forward with the registration of a domain name if >> they had the rights to do so. >> >> >> >> While the TMCH has highly publicized that many potential registrants fail >> to ?click through? a Trademark Claim, where is the additional information >> about why ? so that the forms and notices can be tweaked to be fairer and >> more balanced? >> >> >> >> Our concern is of course that no education and no information was >> provided to the global community by ICANN or the TMCH. This has left >> noncommercial registrants, small businesses, and individuals without the >> guidance that these rules and policies are designed to protect all >> legitimate overlapping uses of words, names, phrases, acronyms for future >> domain names, just as they have been protected for existing ones (see e.g., >> ACM as the Association for Computing Machinery and the Academy of Country >> Music, and DELTA as Delta Faucets, Delta Airlines, Delta Sigma Theta and >> Delta the symbol for change in mathematics. >> >> >> >> Is the TMCH only helping one side, and shouldn?t it be educating and >> communicating its rules, policies, protections and balances with all and >> for all users of the new gTLD domain name system? >> >> >> >> 5. *Section 4* *Sunrise Period*: We request that the questions in >> the next draft and related reports be expanded to see if the sunrise period >> gives unfair advantage to trademark owners far outside their categories of >> goods and services. In cases where a New gTLD caters to .PIZZA should Delta >> Airlines really have a right of first registration? For New gTLDs and >> future gTLDs catering to individuals, noncommercial organizations, >> religious groups, etc., should the Sunrise Period exist at all? >> >> >> >> Inquiry into whether an automatic and upfront registration benefit for >> existing trademark owners unfairly benefits McDonalds Restaurant in a >> .FAMILY or .CATHOLIC gTLD is a question that truly needs to be added and >> asked. Further, how can Sunrise Periods in future rounds be more >> narrowly tailored to the limited rights of existing trademark owners? >> >> >> >> 6. *Section 4.2 Limited Registration Periods* is an important >> section and one that fairly highlights the legitimate reasons why >> registries may want to open registrations to those who are not trademark >> owners, but otherwise fit into a category, such as football players seeking >> to register their names in .FOOTBALL prior to the opening in General >> Availability. >> >> >> >> 7. Section 4.5 *Reserved Names.* Reserved names policy is one that >> raises a lot of questions and should be clarified in the future rounds. The >> idea of reserved unlimited numbers of domain names in a gTLD and releasing >> them to any ?person or entity at Registry Operator?s discretion? may and >> has led to gaming and anticompetitive activity. Can these Reserved Name >> policies be used to cherry-pick all of the best names by one industry >> competitor and bypass ICANN?s rules barring closed generics? This is an >> important inquiry for the next round. >> >> >> >> 8. *Section 5 Trademark Claims Service*: The Trademark Claims >> Services, as discussed above, has raised a number of questions and >> concerns. Questions we request be asked in future drafts and related >> reports include: >> >> >> >> a) Is the Trademark Notice being shown to all Registrants? >> >> b) Do all registrants understand the trademark claims notice? >> >> c) Why are so many potential registrants not registering domain >> names after reading the Trademark Notice? Are they actually cybersquatters >> or are potential legitimate customers being ?chilled? by language of the >> notice or the inability to understand the notice (either the phrasing or >> not reading it in a language they speak? >> >> d) **How can we make the Trademark Notices better, clearer, fairer >> and more accessible so that those protected by the notices are protected >> and yet the limits, balances and fair use protections adopted by the GNSO >> Council and ICANN Board are achieved as well? >> >> >> >> 9. *Section 5.2,* *Inclusion of Previously Abused Labels*: there >> is a lot of concern re: how this non-policy was created and implemented by >> ICANN. In light of the complaints brought against it, and apologies >> issues, shouldn?t the report and future versions be asking if this ?50+? >> policy should be reasonably limited, or rolled back completely? >> >> >> >> 10. *Section 5.3, Extensions of Trademark Claims Service, may be a >> completely invalid offering. *The GNSO?s adopted rules and those of the >> ICANN Board were clearly limited in how long a Trademark Claims Service >> would last. Trademark Owners are responsible for the policing of their >> own marks and there are many private services and public tools they can >> use. Should the ICANN Community be subsidizing or allowing such an expanded >> and *even unlimited extension of the Trademark Claims Service and what >> are the intended and unintended consequences to the most vulnerable of our >> potential future registrants: including noncommercial organizations, >> individuals and small businesses and entrepreneurs? What is the impact on >> those in developing countries? What is the impact of those who don?t speak >> English (e.g., those now registering in our Internationalized Domain >> Names)? Is the TMCH unlimited extension fair, is it being invalidly >> subsidized or even paid for by the ICANN Community without authorization >> and should it be stopped? * >> >> >> >> We strongly request that the inquiry of the next and similar reports be >> expanded to include the questions above and whether the TMCH is allowed to >> write its own rules. >> >> >> >> 11. *Section 6,* *Uniform Rapid Suspension: *we would like to see the >> next and future reports reflect that the URS was a controversial mechanism >> -- an ultra-fast, ultra-cheap takedown mechanism for New gTLDs ? and many >> were worried about whether registrants would be able to respond. >> >> >> >> Clearly, registrants ARE responding, and in far greater numbers than we >> expected given that half the URS claims receive a response. Do Registrants >> have the information they need to respond? Do they understand the special >> defenses offered in the URS? Are they using them? >> >> >> >> Additional questions that need to be asked in the next draft of this >> report and similar reports must reflect the education and rights of both >> sides, the claimant and the respondent, and they must include: >> >> A. Who is educating New gTLD Registrants globally on the existence >> of the URS? >> >> B. Who is educating registrants about the key differences of the >> UDRP and URS, including the much more rapid time needed for response, the >> different standards of proof, and the much more expanded defenses? Where >> are the ICANN Webinars, ICANN LEARN Websites, FAQ pages and Q & A sheets? >> >> C. Who is educating Registrants about the appellate mechanism of >> the URS? >> >> D. Is anyone using the Appellate Mechanism of the URS? >> >> E. Are Panelists being rotated as required by the URS rules? >> >> F. Is the limitation of the URS to English proceedings ? even in >> the Internationalized Domain Names (!!) ? operating a barrier to responses >> by Registrants? What percentage of URS cases are coming from the IDNs? >> >> G. How can ICANN and the URS Providers improve the education of >> Registrants around the URS rules, URS process, and special URS defenses and >> rights for registrants? >> >> H. How can we improve monitoring of the monitoring and reporting of >> the URS results? >> >> Conclusion: >> >> Our thanks again to the ICANN Staff for such a comprehensive report. A >> huge amount of work was done, but work still remains. As in every type of >> intellectual property rights protection system (legislative, regulatory, >> etc.), the questions are always asked: are the rights holders protected, >> but also is the public protected, are all future rights holders protected, >> are free speech, freedom of expression, fair use and the rights of all to >> use dictionary words, generic words, common acronyms and phrases as well as >> their first and last names protected to the fullest extent of national >> laws, and international treaties? Are these rights in balance, and >> carefully drafted by the IRT, the STI and when adopted by the GNSO and >> ICANN Board? >> >> The next version of this report ? and all future reports including the >> upcoming UDRP Review ? must include this fair and comprehensively balanced >> inquiry. We must remain fully cognizant that we are adopting these >> rules and seeking to protect the balanced rights of the whole of the >> Internet Community, which is now the world. This is not just a world >> of commerce, it is a world of free speech, democratic development, and >> freedom of association, rights that are impacted by restrictions on the use >> of words. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> THE UNDERSIGNED MEMBERS OF THE NONCOMMERCIAL STAKEHOLDERS GROUP >> >> Kathy Kleiman, Co-Founder Noncommercial Stakeholders Group, NCSG >> Representative to Special Trademarks Initiative Team >> >> Stephanie Perrin, NCSG Canada >> >> OTHERS ? NAMES, TITLES, AND/OR COUNTRIES WELCOME!!! >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Mon May 4 13:34:29 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 12:34:29 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> Hi, There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. 1. Klaus Stoll 2. James Gannon 3. Paul Rosenzweig 4. Arthur Gwawa 5. Stephanie Perrin 6. Ol?vi? Kouami 7. Sonigitu Ekpe 8. Arsene Tungali in addition to: 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon Thanks. Amr On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake wrote: > It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? > > Bill > >> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >> >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin >> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> >> in addition to: >> >> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephanie, >>> >>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>> >>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>> >>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>> 2. James Gannon >>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>> >>> in addition to: >>> >>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>> >>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>> >>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>> >>>>> In addition to: >>>>> >>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>> >>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>> >>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition: >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > ********************************************************* > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, > ICANN, www.ncuc.org > william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), > www.williamdrake.org > Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap http://goo.gl/sRR01q > ********************************************************* > From klaus.stoll Mon May 4 15:45:38 2015 From: klaus.stoll (Klaus Stoll) Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 08:45:38 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <554769F2.3040707@gkpfoundation.org> Hi, Thanks Amr In addition to myself, I think Stephanie would make a good addition to the group given her past drafting experience. On the other hand I am fully aware about the need for geographical as well as gender diversity. Yours Klaus On 5/4/2015 6:34 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. > > 1. Klaus Stoll > 2. James Gannon > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > 4. Arthur Gwawa > 5. Stephanie Perrin > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > 8. Arsene Tungali > > in addition to: > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake wrote: > >> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >> >> Bill >> >>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>> >>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>> 2. James Gannon >>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >>> in addition to: >>> >>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>> >>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>> >>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>> >>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>> 2. James Gannon >>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>>> in addition to: >>>> >>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>> >>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>>> >>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> ********************************************************* >> William J. Drake >> International Fellow & Lecturer >> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >> University of Zurich, Switzerland >> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >> ICANN, www.ncuc.org >> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), >> www.williamdrake.org >> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap http://goo.gl/sRR01q >> ********************************************************* >> > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > From lanfran Mon May 4 16:57:41 2015 From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 09:57:41 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <55477AD5.6040004@yorku.ca> Amr, et. al., I am conflicted here, facing a wealth of good candidates. For clarity, this is for the Charter drafting team (right?) and not the Working Group per. se., or am I confused? If I am not confused there are several of the others I would like to see on the WG itself, where all of us will have the opportunity for input, and where myself, as a development economist, will have a lot to argue for. :-( :-) :-\ In either case, I will express one preference, and that is for Stephanie. I will defer to the judgement of the rest for the full slate. Sam L. On 04/05/2015 6:34 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. > > 1. Klaus Stoll > 2. James Gannon > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > 4. Arthur Gwawa > 5. Stephanie Perrin > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > 8. Arsene Tungali > > in addition to: > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > Thanks. > > Amr > -- ------------------------------------------------ "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ------------------------------------------------ Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852 From aelsadr Mon May 4 17:44:05 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 16:44:05 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <55477AD5.6040004@yorku.ca> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <55477AD5.6040004@yorku.ca> Message-ID: <22FC08D2-079C-4E3A-84E3-F63E0109D1CE@egyptig.org> Thanks Sam. Your preference of Stephanie is noted, and I?m assuming your supporting her candidacy in addition to that of Klaus, who you indicated support for before. To answer your question, yes?, this is only for the charter drafting team, not the actual CCWG. Once the CCWG is created, there will most likely be a call for participation that is open like other CCWGs. Thanks. Amr On May 4, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: > Amr, et. al., > > I am conflicted here, facing a wealth of good candidates. For clarity, this is for the Charter drafting team (right?) and not the Working Group per. se., or am I confused? > > If I am not confused there are several of the others I would like to see on the WG itself, where all of us will have the opportunity for input, and where myself, as a development economist, will have a lot to argue for. :-( :-) :-\ > > In either case, I will express one preference, and that is for Stephanie. I will defer to the judgement of the rest for the full slate. > > Sam L. > > On 04/05/2015 6:34 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >> >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin >> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 8. Arsene Tungali >> >> in addition to: >> >> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured > in an unjust state" -Confucius > ------------------------------------------------ > Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) > Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 > email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco > blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com > Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852 > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From avri Mon May 4 20:00:17 2015 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 13:00:17 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> Hi, A good list. I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. avri On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. > > 1. Klaus Stoll > 2. James Gannon > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > 4. Arthur Gwawa > 5. Stephanie Perrin > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > 8. Arsene Tungali > > in addition to: > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake wrote: > >> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >> >> Bill >> >>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>> >>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>> 2. James Gannon >>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >>> in addition to: >>> >>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>> >>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>> >>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>> >>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>> 2. James Gannon >>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>> >>>> in addition to: >>>> >>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>> >>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>>> >>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>> >>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> ********************************************************* >> William J. Drake >> International Fellow & Lecturer >> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >> University of Zurich, Switzerland >> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >> ICANN, www.ncuc.org >> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), >> www.williamdrake.org >> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap http://goo.gl/sRR01q >> ********************************************************* >> > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue May 5 13:39:40 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 12:39:40 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> Message-ID: Hi, So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. Thanks. Amr On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > Hi, > > A good list. > > I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. > > avri > > > On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >> >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin >> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 8. Arsene Tungali >> >> in addition to: >> >> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>> >>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>> 2. James Gannon >>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>> >>>> in addition to: >>>> >>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>> >>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>> >>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> in addition to: >>>>> >>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>> >>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> ********************************************************* >>> William J. Drake >>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>> ICANN, >>> www.ncuc.org >>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>> (lists), >>> >>> www.williamdrake.org >>> >>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>> >>> ********************************************************* >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> >> >> > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From mshears Tue May 5 17:53:42 2015 From: mshears (Matthew Shears) Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 23:53:42 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> Message-ID: <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> I deferred to James, I endorse James. Matthew On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. > > It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> A good list. >> >> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >> >> avri >> >> >> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>> >>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>> 2. James Gannon >>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>> >>> in addition to: >>> >>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>> >>>>> in addition to: >>>>> >>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> >>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> ********************************************************* >>>> William J. Drake >>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>> ICANN, >>>> www.ncuc.org >>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>> (lists), >>>> >>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>> >>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>> >>>> ********************************************************* >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 (0)771 247 2987 From aelsadr Tue May 5 18:12:12 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 17:12:12 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> Message-ID: <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. Thanks. Amr On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: > I deferred to James, I endorse James. > > Matthew > > On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >> >> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A good list. >>> >>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>> >>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>> 2. James Gannon >>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>> >>>> in addition to: >>>> >>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>> >>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>> William J. Drake >>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>>> ICANN, >>>>> www.ncuc.org >>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>>> (lists), >>>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>>> >>>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>>> >>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 (0)771 247 2987 > From stephanie.perrin Tue May 5 18:25:14 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 09:25:14 -0600 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> IN the interests of making this easier for you, I will withdraw. Thanks, I will join the working group when it arises. Stephanie On 2015-05-05 9:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: > >> I deferred to James, I endorse James. >> >> Matthew >> >> On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >>> >>> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> A good list. >>>> >>>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >>>> >>>> avri >>>> >>>> >>>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>>> >>>>> in addition to: >>>>> >>>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>> William J. Drake >>>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>>>> ICANN, >>>>>> www.ncuc.org >>>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>>>> (lists), >>>>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>>>> >>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> -- >> Matthew Shears >> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >> + 44 (0)771 247 2987 >> > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From aelsadr Wed May 6 13:55:39 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 12:55:39 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: OK, but I?m not sure that makes things easier. You appeared to be a leading choice for most of the PC members who?ve provided input. Thanks. Amr On May 5, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > IN the interests of making this easier for you, I will withdraw. Thanks, I will join the working group when it arises. > Stephanie > > On 2015-05-05 9:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: >> >>> I deferred to James, I endorse James. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >>>> >>>> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> A good list. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >>>>> >>>>> avri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>>>> >>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>> >>>>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>> William J. Drake >>>>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>>>>> ICANN, >>>>>>> www.ncuc.org >>>>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>>>>> (lists), >>>>>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>>>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> -- >>> Matthew Shears >>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>> + 44 (0)771 247 2987 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From mshears Wed May 6 14:51:53 2015 From: mshears (Matthew Shears) Date: Wed, 06 May 2015 20:51:53 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <554A0059.6040504@cdt.org> That was my assumption as well. I would like to endorse Stephanie (if she will accept un-withdraw) and James. Matthew On 5/6/2015 7:55 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > OK, but I?m not sure that makes things easier. You appeared to be a leading choice for most of the PC members who?ve provided input. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On May 5, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > >> IN the interests of making this easier for you, I will withdraw. Thanks, I will join the working group when it arises. >> Stephanie >> >> On 2015-05-05 9:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Amr >>> >>> On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: >>> >>>> I deferred to James, I endorse James. >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >>>>> >>>>> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Amr >>>>> >>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> A good list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >>>>>> >>>>>> avri >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>>> William J. Drake >>>>>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>>>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>>>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>>>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>>>>>> ICANN, >>>>>>>> www.ncuc.org >>>>>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>>>>>> (lists), >>>>>>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> -- >>>> Matthew Shears >>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>> + 44 (0)771 247 2987 >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 (0)771 247 2987 From wjdrake Wed May 6 15:12:24 2015 From: wjdrake (William Drake) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 14:12:24 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <554A0059.6040504@cdt.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> <554A0059.6040504@cdt.org> Message-ID: <2467F1A5-5653-421A-ADF4-A9B4C5ED074D@gmail.com> Hi > On May 6, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: > > That was my assumption as well. I would like to endorse Stephanie (if she will accept un-withdraw) and James. Me too from the peanut gallery. Familiarly with DTs and the relevant shenanigans will be a plus. Bill > > Matthew > > On 5/6/2015 7:55 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> OK, but I?m not sure that makes things easier. You appeared to be a leading choice for most of the PC members who?ve provided input. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On May 5, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> >>> IN the interests of making this easier for you, I will withdraw. Thanks, I will join the working group when it arises. >>> Stephanie >>> >>> On 2015-05-05 9:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: >>>> >>>>> I deferred to James, I endorse James. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew >>>>> >>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I think the best course of action would be to only consider the opinions provided in making the selection. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A good list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical representation on this. I would also like to have gender balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I think N/S issues have priority. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> avri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the global South?.? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into my inbox. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as follows: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone has any. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So far we have: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>>>> William J. Drake >>>>>>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer >>>>>>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >>>>>>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland >>>>>>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, >>>>>>>>> ICANN, >>>>>>>>> www.ncuc.org >>>>>>>>> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> (lists), >>>>>>>>> www.williamdrake.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap >>>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/sRR01q >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>> -- >>>>> Matthew Shears >>>>> Global Internet Policy and Human Rights >>>>> Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) >>>>> + 44 (0)771 247 2987 >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > + 44 (0)771 247 2987 > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg ********************************************************* William J. 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URL: From stephanie.perrin Wed May 6 18:09:31 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 09:09:31 -0600 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <554A0059.6040504@cdt.org> References: <553E3393.3050301@gkpfoundation.org> <553E4DC3.60407@yorku.ca> <7B6C09D3-B81E-461E-880C-0199C8C759A2@egyptig.org> <8082B809-E184-4472-8AB1-71674722406D@egyptig.org> <7D538A3D-B935-454B-B27D-7232119D12BC@egyptig.org> <5540FEFD.9050105@mail.utoronto.ca> <8FE7C5E9-373A-45DF-A037-2FA8F519D2C3@gmail.com> <119248E6-489D-45A2-8DA2-88E76E742058@egyptig.org> <5547A5A1.9030902@acm.org> <5548D976.4000103@cdt.org> <027F7665-43E8-4682-9E09-EC1A028C225F@egyptig.org> <5548E0DA.5010601@mail.utoronto.ca> <554A0059.6040504@cdt.org> Message-ID: <554A2EAB.70804@mail.utoronto.ca> Whatever works folks, as long as we don't miss the deadline. I will re-volunteer if necessary, understanding that if this turns into a procedural donnybrook, I will be pestering some of you for your long memories and expertise. cheers SP On 2015-05-06 5:51, Matthew Shears wrote: > That was my assumption as well. I would like to endorse Stephanie (if > she will accept un-withdraw) and James. > > Matthew > > On 5/6/2015 7:55 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >> OK, but I?m not sure that makes things easier. You appeared to be a >> leading choice for most of the PC members who?ve provided input. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> >> On May 5, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Stephanie Perrin >> wrote: >> >>> IN the interests of making this easier for you, I will withdraw. >>> Thanks, I will join the working group when it arises. >>> Stephanie >>> >>> On 2015-05-05 9:12, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>> Yes?, apologies for missing that Matt. I should also add that >>>> Arsene has just sent me an email saying that he would like to >>>> withdraw his name from the list of volunteers for the drafting team. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Matthew Shears wrote: >>>> >>>>> I deferred to James, I endorse James. >>>>> >>>>> Matthew >>>>> >>>>> On 5/5/2015 7:39 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> So far, I?m only aware of choices being expressed by Sam and >>>>>> Klaus, in addition to general preferences expressed by Avri. >>>>>> Stephanie is a PC member, and has volunteered, so I will consider >>>>>> her nomination as one of her choices unless told otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> It?d be really helpful to hear from others right now. Several >>>>>> members of the NCSG have indicated interest in joining this >>>>>> drafting team. It?d be unfortunate if the PC members don?t >>>>>> support the work they?re signing up for. I don?t want this to >>>>>> drag along for much longer, so if I don?t hear from others, I >>>>>> think the best course of action would be to only consider the >>>>>> opinions provided in making the selection. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Amr >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A good list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to see us have North/South Geographical >>>>>>> representation on this. I would also like to have gender >>>>>>> balance, but if one needs to give for the other, in this case, I >>>>>>> think N/S issues have priority. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> avri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04-May-15 06:34, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There has been one more volunteer that I?ve added to the list >>>>>>>> below. The PC needs to wrap this up today. It?d be helpful if >>>>>>>> PC members begin to indicate preferences on who they would like >>>>>>>> to have join this drafting team. If we delay our selection, the >>>>>>>> NCSG members of the DT may miss important decisions in the >>>>>>>> charter drafting process, which would be unfortunate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>> 8. Arsene Tungali >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Drake >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It might be interesting to have more candidates from the >>>>>>>>> global South?.? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another updated list of volunteers for the drafting team: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>>>>>>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 8. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>> 9. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apologies. I hadn?t noticed you volunteering on this thread >>>>>>>>>>> or the one on NCSG-DISCUSS. I?ll check the archives to make >>>>>>>>>>> sure that there aren?t any emails that aren?t making it into >>>>>>>>>>> my inbox. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers is: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>>>>>>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in addition to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>> 7. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As previously mentioned, the DT is scheduled to start its >>>>>>>>>>> work on May 4th, so we need to make our selection of two >>>>>>>>>>> members and report back to Glen before then. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I keep volunteering and I dont seem to make it to the list? >>>>>>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-04-29 19:27, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The updated list of volunteers for the drafting team is as >>>>>>>>>>>>> follows: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Arthur Gwagwa >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I?m fine waiting for another day or two to see if anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>> else would like to volunteer, but so far, I?m personally >>>>>>>>>>>>> in favour of appointing Klaus and James as NCSG members to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate hearing thoughts from others if anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>> has any. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following up on this, we have three volunteers to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consider right now, and need to pick two of them. More >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might indicate interest over the next couple of days. So >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far we have: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Matthew Shears >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. James Gannon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Sam Lanfranco also indicated interest, but wished to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> defer to Klaus as a member to the DT. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Amr Elsadr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Sam. Noted. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Sam Lanfranco >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I responded to Amr's query before scrolling down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this message from Klaus. I would happily defer to Klaus. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/04/2015 9:17 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Klaus. We should probably note this with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement on the NCSG-DISCUSS list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Klaus Stoll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am interested to be a member of the drafting team. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Klaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>>>>>>> ********************************************************* >>>>>>>>> William J. 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Klaus Stoll 2. James Gannon 3. Paul Rosenzweig 4. Arthur Gwawa 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) 6. Ol?vi? Kouami 7. Sonigitu Ekpe 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) in addition to: 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Sat May 9 08:46:44 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 17:46:44 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06f701d08a1b$88dc8d90$9a95a8b0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi Rafik and all ? this seems like a good number of candidates? Do we need more at this point? Regards Joy Liddicoat From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2015 4:34 p.m. To: NCSG-Policy Subject: [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds Hi everyone, we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . please do so! then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. the list of candidates till now: 1. Klaus Stoll 2. James Gannon 3. Paul Rosenzweig 4. Arthur Gwawa 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) 6. Ol?vi? Kouami 7. Sonigitu Ekpe 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) in addition to: 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Sat May 9 08:48:32 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 14:48:32 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <06f701d08a1b$88dc8d90$9a95a8b0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> References: <06f701d08a1b$88dc8d90$9a95a8b0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi Joy, It is more time to appoint :) Rafik On May 9, 2015 2:46 PM, "Joy Liddicoat" wrote: > Hi Rafik and all ? this seems like a good number of candidates? Do we need > more at this point? > > Regards > > Joy Liddicoat > > > > *From:* Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, 9 May 2015 4:34 p.m. > *To:* NCSG-Policy > *Subject:* [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop > recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC > members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* > > > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. > the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT > ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > > > the list of candidates till now: > > 1. Klaus Stoll > > 2. James Gannon > > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > > 4. Arthur Gwawa > > 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) > > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > > 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) > > > > in addition to: > > > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > > > > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > > Rafik > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Sat May 9 12:32:37 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 11:32:37 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, My choices would be Klaus and James. Thanks. Amr On May 9, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . please do so! > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > the list of candidates till now: >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) >> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) >> >> in addition to: >> >> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >> > > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > Rafik > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From egmorris1 Sun May 10 03:55:29 2015 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 01:55:29 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rafik, I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. If Stephanie and Paul are no longer candidates then my support goes to James and Ol?vi?, both of whom have performed admirably in groups in which I've worked with them. Best, Ed On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC > members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. > the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT > ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > the list of candidates till now: > > 1. Klaus Stoll > 2. James Gannon > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > 4. Arthur Gwawa > 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) > > in addition to: > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > Rafik > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Sun May 10 05:21:23 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 22:21:23 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: <06f701d08a1b$88dc8d90$9a95a8b0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: <554EC0A3.5070005@mail.utoronto.ca> as previously mentioned, I am happy to step aside and make it easier for us to choose. On 2015-05-09 1:48, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi Joy, > > It is more time to appoint :) > > Rafik > > On May 9, 2015 2:46 PM, "Joy Liddicoat" > wrote: > > Hi Rafik and all ? this seems like a good number of candidates? Do > we need more at this point? > > Regards > > Joy Liddicoat > > *From:*Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, 9 May 2015 4:34 p.m. > *To:* NCSG-Policy > *Subject:* [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop > recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds > > Hi everyone, > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. > some PC members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC > members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do > the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > the list of candidates till now: > > 1. Klaus Stoll > > 2. James Gannon > > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > > 4. Arthur Gwawa > > 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) > > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > > 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) > > > > in addition to: > > > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > > Rafik > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Sun May 10 11:04:15 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 20:04:15 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair In-Reply-To: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> References: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi Amr, I know I have been out of touch lately, but if there is anything you still need help with can you please let me know? Regards Joy -----Original Message----- From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:44 a.m. To: Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair Hi, When I first asked to be considered as the NCSG PC Chair, I had indicated that it would be a good idea to have an alternate Chair to pick up the slack at times I may be unavailable. Well., this is a pretty good example. Over the next few weeks, I will be very busy (specifically until after May 17th), and am wondering if there is anyone who would be willing to act as an alternate Chair during this time, and beyond if the need should arise. Thanks. Amr _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From aelsadr Sun May 10 13:27:33 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 12:27:33 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96CC41C1-B263-495A-9683-44A54BE4B102@egyptig.org> Hi, On May 10, 2015, at 2:55 AM, Edward Morris wrote: > Hi Rafik, > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest?. That was my understanding as well, but I wasn?t sure, so left him on the list of volunteers I circulated. [SNIP] > Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great importance. To be honest, I would argue that awareness of the substantive issues is of greater importance than procedural knowledge. If a charter drafting team for a CCWG does not get all the in-scope issues right, it could be burdensome to try to add them post hoc. That will most likely require a revision of the charter by all of the multiple chartering organisations that will initially sign up (different SOs and ACs). In contrast, a GNSO PDP goes through an issue scoping phase with a round of public comments to serve as a basis for charter drafting, and then there is only one chartering organisation. Makes it a little more straight forward. Agree that attention to detail is crucial. Just some thoughts. Thanks. Amr From aelsadr Sun May 10 13:31:22 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 12:31:22 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair In-Reply-To: <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> References: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: <71075C45-ABBA-4A11-A9CC-54E95805002D@egyptig.org> Thanks Joy. Rafik has agreed to take on my duties of PC Chair until after May 17th. I was always a fan of having an Alternate Chair working with (and in the absence of) the Chair. Are you willing? :) Thanks again. Amr On May 10, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > Hi Amr, I know I have been out of touch lately, but if there is anything you > still need help with can you please let me know? > Regards > Joy > > -----Original Message----- > From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Amr Elsadr > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:44 a.m. > To: > Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair > > Hi, > > When I first asked to be considered as the NCSG PC Chair, I had indicated > that it would be a good idea to have an alternate Chair to pick up the slack > at times I may be unavailable. Well., this is a pretty good example. Over > the next few weeks, I will be very busy (specifically until after May 17th), > and am wondering if there is anyone who would be willing to act as an > alternate Chair during this time, and beyond if the need should arise. > > Thanks. > > Amr > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > From joy Mon May 11 12:29:40 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 21:29:40 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair In-Reply-To: <71075C45-ABBA-4A11-A9CC-54E95805002D@egyptig.org> References: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> <71075C45-ABBA-4A11-A9CC-54E95805002D@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <00be01d08bcd$02b2c050$081840f0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi Amr - I have been somewhat distracted these past three months in a new job, but things are settling down finally and I have more availability. I am happy to be an alternate, subject to the time zone issue I face here in New Zealand. Cheers Joy -----Original Message----- From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org] Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2015 10:31 p.m. To: Joy Liddicoat Cc: Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair Thanks Joy. Rafik has agreed to take on my duties of PC Chair until after May 17th. I was always a fan of having an Alternate Chair working with (and in the absence of) the Chair. Are you willing? :) Thanks again. Amr On May 10, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > Hi Amr, I know I have been out of touch lately, but if there is > anything you still need help with can you please let me know? > Regards > Joy > > -----Original Message----- > From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Amr > Elsadr > Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:44 a.m. > To: > Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair > > Hi, > > When I first asked to be considered as the NCSG PC Chair, I had > indicated that it would be a good idea to have an alternate Chair to > pick up the slack at times I may be unavailable. Well., this is a > pretty good example. Over the next few weeks, I will be very busy > (specifically until after May 17th), and am wondering if there is > anyone who would be willing to act as an alternate Chair during this time, and beyond if the need should arise. > > Thanks. > > Amr > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > From joy Mon May 11 12:47:18 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 21:47:18 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3 In-Reply-To: <5540FE78.6080406@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <55400C08.9060400@mail.utoronto.ca> <55400FFB.9020905@mail.utoronto.ca> <4B99B2CF-3E1C-49D2-890C-BEAA6AF983F4@egyptig.org> <5540FE78.6080406@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <00c501d08bcf$7898df00$69ca9d00$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi Stephanie - really sorry for the radio silence on this. I think you are right to push back - and thanks for holding the lines on this important work. One suggestion: the models used in some national jurisdictions of guiding principles on data collection, use, correction, storage and disposal - are not a similar options possible in the ICANN context? To develop similar principles in a policy in relation to registrant information (for personal information at least) collected for one purpose not to be used for another, etc and then to closely prescribe those purposes (there following debate on which purposes are permitted ) In relation to proxy services - is it possible to develop some similar kinds of principles to apply in relation to requests a proxy might have to respond to? Joy Liddicoat From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Perrin Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 3:53 a.m. To: Amr Elsadr Cc: NCSG-Policy; Kathy Kleiman Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3 I believe the proposed language is biased, and leading. It prompts people to answer questions that favor the minority who were still pushing to ban use for commercial transactions. Every IP law student in American is probably being told to send in their comments on these three questions. IF you are going to ask these three questions to clarify their position, then we need three questions on our side (it is late here, all i can think of right now is Do you believe in human rights? If so, do you think ICANN should protect them or annihilate them? (getting a wee bit grumpy with the amount of work coming our way..... :-) ) cheers steph PS and yes we can leave it in and comment on it, but I think the questions in the initial report should be balanced. On 2015-04-29 20:02, Amr Elsadr wrote: Hi Stephanie, Thanks for forwarding this. I certainly agree with your take on this, although I can see why the many IPC members of the PPSAI-PDP-WG would not. As far as I know there are no laws prohibiting, or even addressing the use of privacy/proxy services by any kind of registrant (commercial or other). I certainly do not agree that ICANN should start classifying registrants based on their intended use of a domain name. I'm actually not sure how a privacy/proxy service provider can do this at the time of registration. Is a registrant supposed to indicate his/her/its intent of use of the domain name at the time of registration? What if the intent changes after registration? Is this a tactic to revoke privacy services from a domain name already using one? And I see no reason why there should be any special consideration for commercial registrants of any kind anyway (I mean in principle). Local laws (as far as I know) require that businesses with a web presence publish contact information on their websites, so as far as local laws are concerned, it's more of a web content issue than a domain name registration issue. I find it a bit surprising, with the initial report looming in the near future, that three of the original charter questions have still not been adequately addressed. From your email, I'm guessing there have been significant discussions, but why hasn't the WG taken a position after all this time? What are the consensus levels looking like around the answers to those questions? What are the RrSG and At-Large folks thinking on these questions? Also, when you say "we need to act fast if there is agreement in NCSG to push back", what exactly do you mean? Where does the NCSG or NCSG PC fit into this at this time? This is still a WG discussion, right? Soon, we will have the opportunity to comment on the initial report, but is there something you are asking us to do before then? Thanks. Amr On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:55 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: Hi folks, I am forwarding to you my latest missive to the privacy proxy services working group. While this is very instructive to see how ICANN operates as an institution, particularly when the IPC is chairing, we need to act fast if there is agreement in NCSG to push back. We are on our 74th working group meeting apparently now and there is a push for closure as you can see below....they want the 100 page report out for comment by May 4. We have been demanding a longer comment period so we can reach out to users of privacy proxy services, suggestion is 60 days. The issue of use of proxy services by those "conducting commercial activity" in the view of facebook and the IPC includes a charity asking for donations (even though the financial bit is through a provider service) or an entity of individual serving ads and thereby getting micropayments. This is a matter for national law in my view, and ICANN should not be dabbling in it. It guts privacy. I would remind everyone thinking about this for the first time that the argument is being made on the basis of a web service paradigm, but it would have to be implemented in a way that includes the stockpiling of names that are not being actively used, or are only used for email. Advice on pushback welcome, I have not even waited to consult my colleagues on the group as time is pressing; I know we have been fighting this for a year and a half and I spent a lot of time on the EWG fighting back Facebook on the same issue. Reactions and strategy?? AS you can see I am protesting the short turn around time for dissenting statements too....although Kathy no doubt has anticipated a slimey move like this one and has one written just in case :-) With respect to strategy.....if we leave this in we have a lovely headline (ICANN moves to restrict privacy proxy services for endangered groups and human rights workers). cheers Stephanie PS yes I do know this is only a consultation, but it is the big one....especially with no reply comments period. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3 Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:39:04 +0900 From: Stephanie Perrin To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org SInce I think there is a distinct set of questions that can be asked on the other side, and that indeed have been asked, I would not support the inclusion of this set of (in my view) leading questions without the opposing questions. To do so would be to reflect a fundamental bias. I would prefer to say something along the lines of the use of proxy services by commercial entities could be restricted by national law, where such law applies. I believe we had a lengthy discussion about defining commercial activity. It seems to me it is not for ICANN to impose such restrictions on Internet activity through its limited remit over domain name registration, a point which we have made repeatedly. If you are going to insist on the inclusion of this (in my view leading) text then we need a few more days to prepare an opposing statement.....April 30 is an artificial deadline which I am surprised to see announced at this late date. cheers Stephanie On 2015-04-29 6:17, Graeme Bunton wrote: Thanks to all WG members for a very productive call earlier today(and to Steve for his chairing acumen). The co-chairs and staff met this afternoon to tie down two loose ends from the call. Regarding the deadline for public comments on the Initial Report, we recognize there is considerable support for extending the public comment period to 60 days instead of the standard 40 days on which we have all been planning. We are prepared to agree to this, but with the caveat that this will have repercussions on the pace and intensity of our work once public comments have been received. Specifically, if the public comment deadline is extended until July 3 (60 days after our publication date of May 4), we will need to plan on at least weekly calls throughout July and August, some of which may need to be more than an hour in length, to review these comments and move toward a Final Report. Otherwise, we jeopardize the prospects for getting the Final Report in front of the GNSO council no later than the Dublin ICANN meeting. As was noted on the call today, many additional steps need to take place even after this WG issues its Final Report before any new accreditation system can be implemented, so the time pressure imposed by the expiration of the Interim Specification at the end of next year is already real. Also, as previously announced over the past few weeks, if any WG members (or group of members) wish to submit a brief separate or additional statement for inclusion in the package posted for public comment next Monday, such statements need to be received by staff no later than Thursday, April 30. Lastly, the other loose end involves proposed revisions to section 1.3.3 of the Initial Report, which were presented on the call earlier today but which we did not have time to discuss fully. We agree that this section could benefit from some revision, but believe it should take the form of greater concision, not additional presentation of arguments for the divergent positions. Thus we suggest that section 1.3.3 be revised to read as follows: --- Although the WG agreed that the mere fact that a domain name is registered by a commercial entity or by anyone conducting commercial activity should not preclude the use of P/P services , there was disagreement over whether domain names that are actively used for commercial transactions (e.g. the sale or exchange of goods or services) should be prohibited from using P/P services. While most WG members did not believe such a prohibition is necessary or practical, some members believed that registrants of such domain names should not be able to use or continue using proxy or privacy services. For those that argued that it is necessary and practical to limit access to P/P services to exclude commercial entities, the following text was proposed to clarify and define their position: "domains used for online financial transactions for commercial purpose should be ineligible for privacy and proxy registrations." Public comment is therefore specifically invited on the following questions: * Should registrants of domain names associated with commercial activities and which are used for online financial transactions be prohibited from using, or continuing to use, privacy and proxy services? * If so, will it be useful to adopt a definition of "commercial" or "transactional" to define those domains for which P/P service registrations should be disallowed? And if so, what should the definition(s) be?" * Will it be necessary to make a distinction in the WHOIS data fields to be displayed as a result? --- Thanks, Graeme Bunton & Steve Metalitz -- _________________________ Graeme Bunton Manager, Management Information Systems Manager, Public Policy Tucows Inc. PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634 _______________________________________________ Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Mon May 11 14:22:06 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:22:06 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing > "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If > Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would > support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and > as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great > importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. > > Hi Ed, I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team and not a working group (that was clarified several times) Rafik > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC >> members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* >> >> then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. >> the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT >> ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. >> >> the list of candidates till now: >> >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) >> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) >> >> in addition to: >> >> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >> >> >> >> yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. >> >> Rafik >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Mon May 11 15:14:43 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 14:14:43 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair In-Reply-To: <00be01d08bcd$02b2c050$081840f0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> References: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> <71075C45-ABBA-4A11-A9CC-54E95805002D@egyptig.org> <00be01d08bcd$02b2c050$081840f0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: <540995F4-D303-4759-AD6F-D34072D6457D@egyptig.org> Thanks Joy. Really appreciate that. I?m really busy until after May 17th, but if agreeable, will contact you then to work out specifics. Thanks again. Amr On May 11, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > Hi Amr - I have been somewhat distracted these past three months in a new > job, but things are settling down finally and I have more availability. > I am happy to be an alternate, subject to the time zone issue I face here in > New Zealand. > Cheers > > Joy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org] > Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2015 10:31 p.m. > To: Joy Liddicoat > Cc: > Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair > > Thanks Joy. Rafik has agreed to take on my duties of PC Chair until after > May 17th. I was always a fan of having an Alternate Chair working with (and > in the absence of) the Chair. Are you willing? :) > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > On May 10, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > >> Hi Amr, I know I have been out of touch lately, but if there is >> anything you still need help with can you please let me know? >> Regards >> Joy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Amr >> Elsadr >> Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:44 a.m. >> To: >> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair >> >> Hi, >> >> When I first asked to be considered as the NCSG PC Chair, I had >> indicated that it would be a good idea to have an alternate Chair to >> pick up the slack at times I may be unavailable. Well., this is a >> pretty good example. Over the next few weeks, I will be very busy >> (specifically until after May 17th), and am wondering if there is >> anyone who would be willing to act as an alternate Chair during this time, > and beyond if the need should arise. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > > > From joy Mon May 11 22:22:15 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 07:22:15 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair In-Reply-To: <540995F4-D303-4759-AD6F-D34072D6457D@egyptig.org> References: <64EA8442-51DA-4EDE-8398-15D0FE105049@egyptig.org> <007b01d08af7$e8ea0370$babe0a50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> <71075C45-ABBA-4A11-A9CC-54E95805002D@egyptig.org> <00be01d08bcd$02b2c050$081840f0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> <540995F4-D303-4759-AD6F-D34072D6457D@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <010301d08c1f$ca1dcd90$5e5968b0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Sure, thanks Amr Joy -----Original Message----- From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org] Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:15 a.m. To: Joy Liddicoat Cc: Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair Thanks Joy. Really appreciate that. I'm really busy until after May 17th, but if agreeable, will contact you then to work out specifics. Thanks again. Amr On May 11, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > Hi Amr - I have been somewhat distracted these past three months in a > new job, but things are settling down finally and I have more availability. > I am happy to be an alternate, subject to the time zone issue I face > here in New Zealand. > Cheers > > Joy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amr Elsadr [mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org] > Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2015 10:31 p.m. > To: Joy Liddicoat > Cc: > Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair > > Thanks Joy. Rafik has agreed to take on my duties of PC Chair until > after May 17th. I was always a fan of having an Alternate Chair > working with (and in the absence of) the Chair. Are you willing? :) > > Thanks again. > > Amr > > On May 10, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > >> Hi Amr, I know I have been out of touch lately, but if there is >> anything you still need help with can you please let me know? >> Regards >> Joy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Amr >> Elsadr >> Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2015 12:44 a.m. >> To: >> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Alternate PC Chair >> >> Hi, >> >> When I first asked to be considered as the NCSG PC Chair, I had >> indicated that it would be a good idea to have an alternate Chair to >> pick up the slack at times I may be unavailable. Well., this is a >> pretty good example. Over the next few weeks, I will be very busy >> (specifically until after May 17th), and am wondering if there is >> anyone who would be willing to act as an alternate Chair during this >> time, > and beyond if the need should arise. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Amr >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> > > > From rafik.dammak Tue May 12 15:16:22 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 21:16:22 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and Olivie 1 vote. I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made final the decision for the appointment Best, Rafik 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > >> >> I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing >> "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If >> Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would >> support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and >> as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great >> importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. >> >> > > Hi Ed, > > I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team and > not a working group (that was clarified several times) > > Rafik > > >> >> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak >> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC >>> members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* >>> >>> then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. >>> the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT >>> ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. >>> >>> the list of candidates till now: >>> >>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>> 2. James Gannon >>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>> 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) >>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>> 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) >>> >>> in addition to: >>> >>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>> >>> >>> >>> yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Wed May 13 04:57:20 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 21:57:20 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5552AF80.3030408@mail.utoronto.ca> Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I am up to my neck in privacy issues plus need to figure out a few things for the GNSO....so while I do want to join the WG, I think it would be better if the charter drafting were done by others. I vote for Klaus and Olevie, and urge them to consult some of our infrastructure and procedural experts (cough cough Avri? Ed? Bill? definitely not me, I am still in wide eyed amazement kind regards, Steph PS only 30 days to go on comments for the PPSAI.... On 15-05-12 8:16 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started > the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: > James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and > Olivie 1 vote. > > I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made > final the decision for the appointment > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak >: > > > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration > writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you > suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are > active candidates then I would support both of them. Let's > remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and as such > procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great > importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in > these areas. > > > > Hi Ed, > > I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting > team and not a working group (that was clarified several times) > > Rafik > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to > Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . > *please do so!* > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed > by PC members. the 2 selected representatives will have to > commit to do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and > request for input. > > the list of candidates till now: >> 1. Klaus Stoll >> 2. James Gannon >> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >> 4. Arthur Gwawa >> 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) >> 6. Ol??vi?? Kouami >> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >> 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) >> >> in addition to: >> >> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > Rafik > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Wed May 13 11:27:18 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:27:18 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a201d08d56$a11de820$e359b860$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi ? I vote for Klaus and Olivie Joy From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:16 a.m. To: NCSG-Policy Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds Hi everyone, I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and Olivie 1 vote. I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote today and made final the decision for the appointment Best, Rafik 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. Hi Ed, I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team and not a working group (that was clarified several times) Rafik On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: Hi everyone, we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . please do so! then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. the list of candidates till now: 1. Klaus Stoll 2. James Gannon 3. Paul Rosenzweig 4. Arthur Gwawa 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) 6. Ol?vi? Kouami 7. Sonigitu Ekpe 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) in addition to: 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. Rafik _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Wed May 13 11:42:55 2015 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:42:55 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <00a201d08d56$a11de820$e359b860$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> References: <00a201d08d56$a11de820$e359b860$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: <55530E8F.9050901@acm.org> +1 On 13-May-15 10:27, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > > Hi ? I vote for Klaus and Olivie > > > > Joy > > > > *From:*PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of > *Rafik Dammak > *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:16 a.m. > *To:* NCSG-Policy > *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to > develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started > the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: > > James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and > Olivie 1 vote. > > > > I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made > final the decision for the appointment > > > > Best, > > > > Rafik > > > > 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak >: > > > > > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration > writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you > suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active > candidates then I would support both of them. Let's remember that > this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and > attention to detail are of great importance. Both Stephanie and > Paul have proven abilities in these areas. > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team > and not a working group (that was clarified several times) > > > > Rafik > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to > Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . *please > do so!* > > > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC > members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to > do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > > > the list of candidates till now: > > 1. Klaus Stoll > > 2. James Gannon > > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > > 4. Arthur Gwawa > > 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) > > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > > 7. Sonigitu Ekpe > > 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) > > > > in addition to: > > > > 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll > > 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon > > > > > > yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. > > > Rafik > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From rafik.dammak Wed May 13 11:43:10 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:43:10 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: <00a201d08d56$a11de820$e359b860$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> References: <00a201d08d56$a11de820$e359b860$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Message-ID: Thanks Stephanie and Joy, maybe others can vote in the next hours :) Rafik On May 13, 2015 5:27 PM, "Joy Liddicoat" wrote: > Hi ? I vote for Klaus and Olivie > > > > Joy > > > > *From:* PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Rafik > Dammak > *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:16 a.m. > *To:* NCSG-Policy > *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to > develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started the > discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: > > James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and > Olivie 1 vote. > > > > I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made final > the decision for the appointment > > > > Best, > > > > Rafik > > > > 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > > > > > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing > "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If > Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would > support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and > as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great > importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team and > not a working group (that was clarified several times) > > > > Rafik > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC > members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* > > > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. > the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT > ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > > > the list of candidates till now: > > 1. Klaus Stoll > > 2. James Gannon > > 3. 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I vote for Klaus and Olivie > > > > > > > > Joy > > > > > > > > *From:*PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of > > *Rafik Dammak > > *Sent:* Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:16 a.m. > > *To:* NCSG-Policy > > *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to > > develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started > > the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their > choices: > > > > James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and > > Olivie 1 vote. > > > > > > > > I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made > > final the decision for the appointment > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Rafik > > > > > > > > 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration > > writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you > > suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active > > candidates then I would support both of them. Let's remember that > > this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and > > attention to detail are of great importance. Both Stephanie and > > Paul have proven abilities in these areas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > > > I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team > > and not a working group (that was clarified several times) > > > > > > > > Rafik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak > > > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to > > Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . *please > > do so!* > > > > > > > > then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC > > members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to > > do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. > > > > > > > > the list of candidates till now: > > > > 1. Klaus Stoll > > > > 2. James Gannon > > > > 3. Paul Rosenzweig > > > > 4. Arthur Gwawa > > > > 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) > > > > 6. Ol?vi? Kouami > > > > 7. 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URL: From rafik.dammak Thu May 14 14:07:38 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 20:07:38 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, updates of the votes (including mine : Klaus and James) James got 4 votes, Klaus 6 votes and Olivie 4 vote. it sounds we need tie-break here, the missing votes are from David and Marilia. we have to finish this process. I guess we should discuss later on how to make appointment process more fast in the case of multiple candidates, Best, Rafik 2015-05-12 21:16 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > Hi everyone, > > I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started the > discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: > James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and > Olivie 1 vote. > > I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made final > the decision for the appointment > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > >> >>> >>> I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing >>> "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If >>> Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would >>> support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and >>> as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great >>> importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. >>> >>> >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team >> and not a working group (that was clarified several times) >> >> Rafik >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC >>>> members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* >>>> >>>> then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. >>>> the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT >>>> ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. >>>> >>>> the list of candidates till now: >>>> >>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>> 2. James Gannon >>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>> 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) >>>> 6. Ol?vi? Kouami >>>> 7. Sonigitu Ekpe >>>> 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) >>>> >>>> in addition to: >>>> >>>> 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll >>>> 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. >>>> >>>> Rafik >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Fri May 15 09:19:27 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 15:19:27 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, James sent me email to withdraw his candidature, he will follow the drafting process and looking to get involved in the WG to be formed. With this, it becomes clear that we have 2 representatives i.e. Klaus and Olivie. I think we can close this and I will inform Glen about the appointment in next hours. Best, Rafik 2015-05-14 20:07 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > Hi, > > updates of the votes (including mine : Klaus and James) > James got 4 votes, Klaus 6 votes and Olivie 4 vote. > > it sounds we need tie-break here, the missing votes are from David and > Marilia. > we have to finish this process. I guess we should discuss later on how to > make appointment process more fast in the case of multiple candidates, > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2015-05-12 21:16 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started >> the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: >> James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and >> Olivie 1 vote. >> >> I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote *today *and made final >> the decision for the appointment >> >> Best, >> >> Rafik >> >> 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : >> >>> >>>> >>>> I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing >>>> "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If >>>> Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would >>>> support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and >>>> as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great >>>> importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi Ed, >>> >>> I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team >>> and not a working group (that was clarified several times) >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some >>>>> PC members didn't share their input yet . *please do so!* >>>>> >>>>> then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC >>>>> members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work >>>>> in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. >>>>> >>>>> the list of candidates till now: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Klaus Stoll >>>>> 2. James Gannon >>>>> 3. Paul Rosenzweig >>>>> 4. Arthur Gwawa >>>>> 5. 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All, please do take a look at what has been written so far and add your comments/input - this is a critical public comment. Best, Matthew On 5/18/2015 12:48 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > hi everyone, > > members are still working on NCSG comment for IANA stewardship draft > proposal > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit > and so need proofreading and editing. > It will be great if you can start the review and be ready to make a > "fast track" endorsement since the deadline is 20 May 2015 23:59 UTC. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 (0)771 247 2987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have added some text and comments. > > All, please do take a look at what has been written so far and add your > comments/input - this is a critical public comment. > > Best, > > Matthew > > > On 5/18/2015 12:48 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > hi everyone, > > members are still working on NCSG comment for IANA stewardship draft > proposal > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit > and so need proofreading and editing. > > It will be great if you can start the review and be ready to make a "fast > track" endorsement since the deadline is 20 May 2015 23:59 UTC. > > Best, > > Rafik > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing listPC-NCSG at ipjustice.orghttp://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > -- > Matthew Shears > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)+ 44 (0)771 247 2987 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avri Tue May 19 10:59:49 2015 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:59:49 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material Message-ID: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> Hi, I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. I think it was cruel and unnecessary. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From rafik.dammak Tue May 19 11:11:52 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:11:52 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> Message-ID: Hi, first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. Best, Rafik 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : > Hi, > > I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are > appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the > PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is > attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. > > I think it was cruel and unnecessary. > > avri > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egmorris1 Tue May 19 11:25:17 2015 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:25:17 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> Message-ID: <40EB6DED-2965-4243-97C2-8B4F5A399643@toast.net> Hi, > > I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are > appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the > PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member Ms. Doria, you are the one who is personalizing the issue. This is a question of propriety and philosophy: the proper role of staff support to the NCSG. There are obviously differing views on the matter. The identity of the individual staff member is inconsequential as is the intent of any staff member in this role. > > I think it was cruel and unnecessary. > How about dealing with specifics Avri, instead of gross generalities impugning my intent? What was cruel? What was unnecessary? Indeed, how was an individual berated? Are you suggesting that when one sees what one believes is staff overreach one needs to be quiet lest someone's feelings be hurt? This is not about any individual person, it's about a wider issue. It's a shame you seem unable to deal with the specifics of the question raised, instead trying to personalize and demonize the individual raising it. You're usually better than that. Ed > avri > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From egmorris1 Tue May 19 11:33:32 2015 From: egmorris1 (Edward Morris) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 09:33:32 +0100 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> Message-ID: <3721858F-C20D-4B82-A020-BE3216C23175@toast.net> Sent from my iPad > On May 19, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > Hi, > > first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come from? Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > > regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. > > do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a members only list and should be open to all. Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for members, not staff. Or so I thought. Best, Ed > > Best, > > Rafik > > 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : >> Hi, >> >> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are >> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the >> PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is >> attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. >> >> I think it was cruel and unnecessary. >> >> avri >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Tue May 19 11:41:02 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 20:41:02 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> Message-ID: <010401d0920f$8a6bf500$9f43df00$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi ? I completely agree. Leave her alone for goodness sake and debate the issues with Fadi, not Maryam who has been doing a wonderful job for us ?eish!. Joy From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2015 8:12 p.m. To: Avri Doria Cc: NCSG-Policy Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material Hi, first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. Best, Rafik 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : Hi, I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. I think it was cruel and unnecessary. avri --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Tue May 19 11:44:32 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 20:44:32 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [urgent] NCSG comment for IANA stewardship proposal to be review soon In-Reply-To: References: <555A1C08.2010203@cdt.org> Message-ID: <010901d09210$0751ae70$15f50b50$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Hi ? I have also added some comments and a suggested intro para. I think the material is looking good ?well done everyone ? and it is off the back of some incredible contributions from our NCSG team, thanks everyone Joy From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2015 12:12 p.m. To: Matthew Shears Cc: NCSG-Policy Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] [urgent] NCSG comment for IANA stewardship proposal to be review soon Hi Matt, thanks. help for proofreading, editing typos and tidying-up the comment is welcome! Best, Rafik 2015-05-19 2:06 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears : Thanks Rafik. I have added some text and comments. All, please do take a look at what has been written so far and add your comments/input - this is a critical public comment. Best, Matthew On 5/18/2015 12:48 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: hi everyone, members are still working on NCSG comment for IANA stewardship draft proposal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit and so need proofreading and editing. It will be great if you can start the review and be ready to make a "fast track" endorsement since the deadline is 20 May 2015 23:59 UTC. Best, Rafik _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -- Matthew Shears Global Internet Policy and Human Rights Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) + 44 (0)771 247 2987 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Tue May 19 11:45:58 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 17:45:58 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: <3721858F-C20D-4B82-A020-BE3216C23175@toast.net> References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> <3721858F-C20D-4B82-A020-BE3216C23175@toast.net> Message-ID: Hi, > first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit > accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. > > > Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come > from? > > Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > > I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, stressing that part several times .then you implied that probably she was asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an accusation. > > > > regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in > mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying > people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive > and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements > (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to > share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job > to explain the background about those public information. > > do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. > > > Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU > ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. > Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a members > only list and should be open to all. > > straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you prefer me as an elected admin worker? Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for > members, not staff. Or so I thought. > > we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA stewardship and we have to spend time on this. Rafik > > 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : > >> Hi, >> >> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are >> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the >> PC. 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I think > the material is looking good ?well done everyone ? and it is off the back > of some incredible contributions from our NCSG team, thanks everyone > > > > Joy > > > > *From:* PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Rafik > Dammak > *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 May 2015 12:12 p.m. > *To:* Matthew Shears > *Cc:* NCSG-Policy > *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [urgent] NCSG comment for IANA stewardship > proposal to be review soon > > > > Hi Matt, > > > > thanks. help for proofreading, editing typos and tidying-up the comment is > welcome! > > > > Best, > > > > Rafik > > > > 2015-05-19 2:06 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears : > > Thanks Rafik. I have added some text and comments. > > All, please do take a look at what has been written so far and add your > comments/input - this is a critical public comment. > > Best, > > Matthew > > > > On 5/18/2015 12:48 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > hi everyone, > > > > members are still working on NCSG comment for IANA stewardship draft > proposal > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit > and so need proofreading and editing. > > > > It will be great if you can start the review and be ready to make a "fast > track" endorsement since the deadline is 20 May 2015 23:59 UTC. > > > > Best, > > > > Rafik > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > -- > > Matthew Shears > > Global Internet Policy and Human Rights > > Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT) > > + 44 (0)771 247 2987 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joy Tue May 19 12:59:40 2015 From: joy (Joy Liddicoat) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 21:59:40 +1200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018e01d0921a$85e8dce0$91ba96a0$@liddicoatlaw.co.nz> Thanks Rafik Joy From: PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org] On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak Sent: Friday, 15 May 2015 6:19 p.m. To: NCSG-Policy; David Cake; Marilia Maciel Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] [Urgent] Appointement to working group to develop recommendations on new gTLD auction proceeds Hi everyone, James sent me email to withdraw his candidature, he will follow the drafting process and looking to get involved in the WG to be formed. With this, it becomes clear that we have 2 representatives i.e. Klaus and Olivie. I think we can close this and I will inform Glen about the appointment in next hours. Best, Rafik 2015-05-14 20:07 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : Hi, updates of the votes (including mine : Klaus and James) James got 4 votes, Klaus 6 votes and Olivie 4 vote. it sounds we need tie-break here, the missing votes are from David and Marilia. we have to finish this process. I guess we should discuss later on how to make appointment process more fast in the case of multiple candidates, Best, Rafik 2015-05-12 21:16 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : Hi everyone, I tried to find out all selections made by PC members since we started the discussion, and only Klaus, Sam, Matt, Amr and Ed made their choices: James got 3 votes, Stephanie (withdrawn) 3 votes , Klaus 2 votes and Olivie 1 vote. I am not sure here if the rest of PC want to vote today and made final the decision for the appointment Best, Rafik 2015-05-11 20:22 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak : I believe that on April 29th Paul withdrew from consideration writing "then I will wait to join the substantive group as you suggest". If Stephanie (? next to withdraw) and Paul are active candidates then I would support both of them. Let's remember that this is the DT, not the WG, and as such procedural knowledge and attention to detail are of great importance. Both Stephanie and Paul have proven abilities in these areas. Hi Ed, I do think it was set since the beginning that is about drafting team and not a working group (that was clarified several times) Rafik On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: Hi everyone, we need to close this soon, I would set the deadline to Monday. some PC members didn't share their input yet . please do so! then we will see who are the top 2 among slates proposed by PC members. the 2 selected representatives will have to commit to do the work in DT ,report to NCSG updates and request for input. the list of candidates till now: 1. Klaus Stoll 2. James Gannon 3. Paul Rosenzweig 4. Arthur Gwawa 5. Stephanie Perrin (withdraw?) 6. Ol?vi? Kouami 7. Sonigitu Ekpe 8. Arsene Tungali (withdraw) in addition to: 9. Sam Lanfranco who deferred to Klaus Stoll 10. Matthew Shears who deferred to James Gannon yes we are over the GNSO deadline already. Rafik _______________________________________________ PC-NCSG mailing list PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Tue May 19 13:23:52 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:23:52 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> <3721858F-C20D-4B82-A020-BE3216C23175@toast.net> Message-ID: <32B263DA-FDB1-40D8-87A7-1DDE4457B1F2@egyptig.org> Hi, I didn?t read Ed?s email to be particularly accusatory in nature as others have. Perhaps a bit insensitive to a newbie staff member, who as Ed pointed out in his original email similarly to new NCSG members, might not be aware of the absence of full agreement among NCSG members to take on staff support. Having said that, I disagree with Ed?s premise regarding Maryam?s role as staff support. I also think it would have been a better idea to raise this issue on the PC or EC lists than NCSG-DISCUSS. I suspect that might have been Ed?s intent (at least that?s what he said). If anything, it seems to me that some of the responses to his email created more awkwardness in the discussion than the original email did in itself. Thanks. Amr On May 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > > Hi, > > >> first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. > > Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come from? > > Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > > > I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, stressing that part several times .then you implied that probably she was asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an accusation. > > >> >> regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. >> >> do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. > > Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a members only list and should be open to all. > > > straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you prefer me as an elected admin worker? > > Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for members, not staff. Or so I thought. > > > we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA stewardship and we have to spend time on this. > > Rafik >> >> 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : >> Hi, >> >> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are >> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the >> PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is >> attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. >> >> I think it was cruel and unnecessary. >> >> avri >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From stephanie.perrin Tue May 19 22:10:52 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:10:52 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Re: discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: <555B4A3E.8040408@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <555B4A3E.8040408@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <555B8ABC.9010506@mail.utoronto.ca> Sorry, sent this only to Amr (reply not reply all) SP -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:35:42 -0400 From: Stephanie Perrin To: Amr Elsadr I agree. From a tiny spark, a mighty conflagration has arisen. Let's get back to drafting comments folks. I think Ed has raised a valid point...in terms of whether it is useful for the attention of team members to be attracted to propaganda when there is so much vital info we have not the time to read. But we have a pile of things that need attention. If anyone would like to promote response to the PPSAI call for comments, we have already agreed to draft a short two pager of the key issues, to circulate to all your contacts. Stay tuned, that one will definitely go to the list! cheers Steph On 15-05-19 6:23 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > I didn?t read Ed?s email to be particularly accusatory in nature as others have. Perhaps a bit insensitive to a newbie staff member, who as Ed pointed out in his original email similarly to new NCSG members, might not be aware of the absence of full agreement among NCSG members to take on staff support. > > Having said that, I disagree with Ed?s premise regarding Maryam?s role as staff support. I also think it would have been a better idea to raise this issue on the PC or EC lists than NCSG-DISCUSS. I suspect that might have been Ed?s intent (at least that?s what he said). If anything, it seems to me that some of the responses to his email created more awkwardness in the discussion than the original email did in itself. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On May 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> >>> first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. >> Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come from? >> >> Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? >> >> >> I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, stressingthat part several times .then you implied that probably she was asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an accusation. >> >> >>> regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have inmind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive andhelpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while Istill send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. >>> >>> do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. >> Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a membersonly list and should be open to all. >> >> >> straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you prefer me as an elected admin worker? >> >> Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for members, not staff. Or so I thought. >> >> >> we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA stewardship and we have to spend time on this. >> >> Rafik >>> 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : >>> Hi, >>> >>> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are >>> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the >>> PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is >>> attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. >>> >>> I think it was cruel and unnecessary. >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Marika From: Marika Konings > Date: Monday 11 May 2015 10:31 To: "council at gnso.icann.org " > Subject: [council] For your review - draft GNSO schedule for New ICANN Meeting Strategy Dear All, On behalf of the GNSO New ICANN Meeting Strategy Drafting Team, please find a first draft of the outline of the GNSO related meetings under the new ICANN Meeting Strategy which will take effect in 2016. The drafting team would be interested to obtain the input from you and/or your respective groups on this proposed outline via the mailing list and/or during the upcoming GNSO Council meeting so that any further changes can be made before this draft is shared with other SO/ACs ahead of the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. As discussed previously, co-ordination with other SO/Acs on the new meeting strategy will be of key importance to avoid potential conflict and/or overlap and as such the drafting team aims to work with the other SO/ACs to co-ordinate the approach for the new ICANN Meeting Strategy in Buenos Aires which is intended to result in a ?final? outline post BA. In the attached document you will find a summary of the main objectives of each of the meetings (A, B and C) as outlined by the ICANN Meeting Strategy Working Group, a high level schedule as prepared by the ICANN Meeting Strategy Working Group complemented by yellow additions that reflect the GNSO related meetings as well as a block schedule that has been prepared by the drafting team to further detail the expected GNSO related meetings. Note that for the B meeting a number of assumptions have been made that are listed on page 4 and 5. 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Probably checking the meeting type B. Rafik On May 20, 2015 5:45 AM, "Stephanie Perrin" < stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote: > > I am remiss....unless I missed it while redialing, we did not seek input > on this matter which is coming up on Thursday. DOes anyone have any > thoughts? > cheers SP > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: FW: [council] For your > review - draft GNSO schedule for New ICANN Meeting Strategy Date: Tue, > 19 May 2015 19:26:19 +0000 From: Marika Konings > To: Council GNSO > > > Reminder - please note that the GNSO New ICANN Meeting Strategy Drafting > Team is expecting to receive your and your SG/C?s feedback on the attached > draft schedule during the GNSO Council meeting coming Thursday. > > Best regards, > > Marika > > From: Marika Konings > Date: Monday 11 May 2015 10:31 > To: "council at gnso.icann.org" > Subject: [council] For your review - draft GNSO schedule for New ICANN > Meeting Strategy > > Dear All, > > On behalf of the GNSO New ICANN Meeting Strategy Drafting Team, please > find a first draft of the outline of the GNSO related meetings under the > new ICANN Meeting Strategy which will take effect in 2016. The drafting > team would be interested to obtain the input from you and/or your > respective groups on this proposed outline via the mailing list and/or > during the upcoming GNSO Council meeting so that any further changes can be > made before this draft is shared with other SO/ACs ahead of the ICANN > meeting in Buenos Aires. As discussed previously, co-ordination with other > SO/Acs on the new meeting strategy will be of key importance to avoid > potential conflict and/or overlap and as such the drafting team aims to > work with the other SO/ACs to co-ordinate the approach for the new ICANN > Meeting Strategy in Buenos Aires which is intended to result in a ?final? > outline post BA. > > In the attached document you will find a summary of the main objectives > of each of the meetings (A, B and C) as outlined by the ICANN Meeting > Strategy Working Group, a high level schedule as prepared by the ICANN > Meeting Strategy Working Group complemented by yellow additions that > reflect the GNSO related meetings as well as a block schedule that has been > prepared by the drafting team to further detail the expected GNSO related > meetings. Note that for the B meeting a number of assumptions have been > made that are listed on page 4 and 5. As a reminder, the B meeting reflects > the biggest departure from the current meeting structure as it is a 4-day > meeting focused on outreach and SO/AC work. > > Best regards, > > Marika > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Wed May 20 02:58:31 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 08:58:31 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: <32B263DA-FDB1-40D8-87A7-1DDE4457B1F2@egyptig.org> References: <555AED75.5000208@acm.org> <3721858F-C20D-4B82-A020-BE3216C23175@toast.net> <32B263DA-FDB1-40D8-87A7-1DDE4457B1F2@egyptig.org> Message-ID: Hi Amr, > > I didn?t read Ed?s email to be particularly accusatory in nature as others > have. Perhaps a bit insensitive to a newbie staff member, who as Ed pointed > out in his original email similarly to new NCSG members, might not be aware > of the absence of full agreement among NCSG members to take on staff > support. > let me disagree with you on 1 point here: the message can be interpreted by people and make conclusions in different ways, that is why (we should have some empathy and) be careful on what we send, in particular when you are an NCSG officer and interacting in global and diverse group like ours. > > Having said that, I disagree with Ed?s premise regarding Maryam?s role as > staff support. I also think it would have been a better idea to raise this > issue on the PC or EC lists than NCSG-DISCUSS. I suspect that might have > been Ed?s intent (at least that?s what he said). I know that he was supposed to send the email to PC list but by mistake it was to NCSG list. sometimes it is good to wait before replying or sharing something, patience is still worthy thing. we could have a easy and smooth discussion. Best, Rafik > > On May 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > >> first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got > implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. > > > > Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that > come from? > > > > Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > > > > > > I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be > interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, > stressing that part several times .then you implied that probably she was > asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an > accusation. > > > > > >> > >> regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have in > mind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying > people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive > and helpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements > (while I still send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to > share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job > to explain the background about those public information. > >> > >> do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. > > > > Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his > pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's > allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a > members only list and should be open to all. > > > > > > straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was > added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info > that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not > participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you > prefer me as an elected admin worker? > > > > Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for > members, not staff. Or so I thought. > > > > > > we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA > stewardship and we have to spend time on this. > > > > Rafik > >> > >> 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : > >> Hi, > >> > >> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are > >> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the > >> PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is > >> attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. > >> > >> I think it was cruel and unnecessary. > >> > >> avri > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> http://www.avast.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PC-NCSG mailing list > >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PC-NCSG mailing list > >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But we have a pile of things that need > attention. > > I think I explained the issue of messaging and sharing info when I responded to NCSG list. I usually receive most of the announcement and share those relevant to us either to NCSG list or PC list when it is about appointment etc. Maryam was trying to be helpful to get some workload and usually check with me before sending. I gave her an implicit approval to share some stuff. if she mistook this time, thinking that such video was relevant for newcomer to understand about ICANN, I could fix this easily by giving her more clear instruction and feedback. now it becomes more complicated, so I will have to post most of the announcement myself again. also I would like to hear more facts here, how much non-relevant info or propaganda we are getting in the list? If anyone would like to promote response to the PPSAI call > for comments, we have already agreed to draft a short two pager of the > key issues, to circulate to all your contacts. Stay tuned, that one > will definitely go to the list! > > so you are volunteering and committed for the 2 pager for PPSAI? can you please tell by when you will send it? Rafik > On 15-05-19 6:23 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I didn?t read Ed?s email to be particularly accusatory in nature as others have. Perhaps a bit insensitive to a newbie staff member, who as Ed pointed out in his original email similarly to new NCSG members, might not be aware of the absence of full agreement among NCSG members to take on staff support. > > > > Having said that, I disagree with Ed?s premise regarding Maryam?s role as staff support. I also think it would have been a better idea to raise this issue on the PC or EC lists than NCSG-DISCUSS. I suspect that might have been Ed?s intent (at least that?s what he said). If anything, it seems to me that some of the responses to his email created more awkwardness in the discussion than the original email did in itself. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Amr > > > > On May 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >>> first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. > >> Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come from? > >> > >> Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > >> > >> > >> I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, stressingthat part several times .then you implied that probably she was asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an accusation. > >> > >> > >>> regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have inmind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive andhelpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while Istill send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. > >>> > >>> do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. > >> Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a membersonly list and should be open to all. > >> > >> > >> straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you prefer me as an elected admin worker? > >> > >> Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for members, not staff. Or so I thought. > >> > >> > >> we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA stewardship and we have to spend time on this. > >> > >> Rafik > >>> 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are > >>> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the > >>> PC. I do not think it appropriate to have berated a staff member who is > >>> attempting to help us by keeping us informed in such a public manner. > >>> > >>> I think it was cruel and unnecessary. > >>> > >>> avri > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >>> http://www.avast.com > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PC-NCSG mailing list > >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PC-NCSG mailing list > >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PC-NCSG mailing list > >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-NCSG mailing list > > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanie.perrin Wed May 20 04:13:24 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 21:13:24 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Re: discussing distribution of ICANN material In-Reply-To: References: <555B4A3E.8040408@mail.utoronto.ca> <555B8ABC.9010506@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <555BDFB4.8080909@mail.utoronto.ca> No, Kathy and James and I had a quick chat after this morning's call, we are doing it together. Hoping for end of week so we can use it to promote to other groups. Help would of course always be most welcome! SP On 2015-05-19 20:06, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi, > > 2015-05-20 4:10 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin > >: > > Sorry, sent this only to Amr (reply not reply all) > SP > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] discussing distribution of ICANN material > Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:35:42 -0400 > From: Stephanie Perrin > > To: Amr Elsadr > > > > I agree. From a tiny spark, a mighty conflagration has arisen. Let's > get back to drafting comments folks. I think Ed has raised a valid > point...in terms of whether it is useful for the attention of team > members to be attracted to propaganda when there is so much vital info > we have not the time to read. But we have a pile of things that need > attention. > > > > I think I explained the issue of messaging and sharing info when I > responded to NCSG list. I usually receive most of the announcement and > share those relevant to us either to NCSG list or PC list when it is > about appointment etc. Maryam was trying to be helpful to get some > workload and usually check with me before sending. I gave her an > implicit approval to share some stuff. if she mistook this time, > thinking that such video was relevant for newcomer to understand about > ICANN, I could fix this easily by giving her more clear instruction > and feedback. now it becomes more complicated, so I will have to post > most of the announcement myself again. > also I would like to hear more facts here, how much non-relevant info > or propaganda we are getting in the list? > > If anyone would like to promote response to the PPSAI call > for comments, we have already agreed to draft a short two pager of the > key issues, to circulate to all your contacts. Stay tuned, that one > will definitely go to the list! > > > so you are volunteering and committed for the 2 pager for PPSAI? can > you please tell by when you will send it? > > > Rafik > > On 15-05-19 6:23 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I didn?t read Ed?s email to be particularly accusatory in nature as others have. Perhaps a bit insensitive to a newbie staff member, who as Ed pointed out in his original email similarly to new NCSG members, might not be aware of the absence of full agreement among NCSG members to take on staff support. > > > > Having said that, I disagree with Ed?s premise regarding Maryam?s role as staff support. I also think it would have been a better idea to raise this issue on the PC or EC lists than NCSG-DISCUSS. I suspect that might have been Ed?s intent (at least that?s what he said). If anything, it seems to me that some of the responses to his email created more awkwardness in the discussion than the original email did in itself. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Amr > > > > On May 19, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >>> first I think that the admin staff was unfairly treated and got implicit accusations of wrongdoings in public list. this should be answered. > >> Specifics Rafik. "Implicit accusations of wrongdoing". Where did that come from? > >> > >> Folks here seem to want to personalize this. Wrongdoing? > >> > >> > >> I am not personalising it, I am stating how your message can be interpreted. you kept mentioning that she shared a video of her employer, stressingthat part several times .then you implied that probably she was asked to do. you have no fact to support your claims so yes it is an accusation. > >> > >> > >>> regarding material distribution, there is one element we should have inmind : they are publicly available and such emails are merely notifying people about their existence. The admin support is trying to be proactive andhelpful. Maryam usually check with me about sending announcements (while Istill send most of them) but I gave her an implicit approval to share. we are not supposed to do gatekeeper work but we can do better job to explain the background about those public information. > >>> > >>> do we really want NCSG to do content policing now? ironic situation. > >> Then open the list to nonmembers. Let's let Richard Hill post his pro-ITU ideas. If Steve DelBianco wants to address our members then let's allow it. Once staff starts posting substantive material it no longer is a membersonly list and should be open to all. > >> > >> > >> straw-man argument. the list is open for NCSG members and Maryam was added to do her admin tasks. the admin staff is merely sharing public info that are already online and accessible to everyone!!!! she is not participating in policy-making, the discussion or whatever. probably you prefer me as an elected admin worker? > >> > >> Policing content? That's a rubbish accusation. A members list is for members, not staff. Or so I thought. > >> > >> > >> we are 24hour from the deadline to submit the comment on IANA stewardship and we have to spend time on this. > >> > >> Rafik > >>> 2015-05-19 16:59 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria : > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I really think we should have held a discussion of what materials are > >>> appropriate to pass on to the NCSG membership in either the EC or the > >>> PC. 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Please send the following to me by Tuesday, June 2: - SO/AC name - Date you want your story to appear in the newsletter - Event/story/message - Any text or media (photo, video, logo) Note: Send more than one event/story/message and rank each in order of priority. We will try and include as many stories as we can but it may be possible to only publish one of your stories given space limitations and the necessity to include a variety of stories. Look forward to your suggestions and email anytime if you have any questions. Regards, Jana Juginovic Director, Global Content & Social Media Engagement -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stephanie On 2015-05-19 22:56, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > there is possibility to get some messaging or narrative in the ICANN > "PR" newsletter. any idea for a message we want to spread in ICANN53? > > Best, > > Rafik > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > > > ICANN Communications has asked me to share this note with you. > > --------------------------- > > Dear Community Leaders: > > ICANN53 is just around the corner and we are beginning to plan our > editorial calendar for the ICANN53 Newsletter. The intention of the > newsletter is to highlight certain events/news but, as you can > appreciate, we cannot include everything in the newsletter. The > longer the newsletter, the lower the readership. > > We would appreciate your assistance with helping us include the most > important events/story/message you want featured in the daily newsletter. > > Please send the following to me by Tuesday, June 2: > > * SO/AC name > * Date you want your story to appear in the newsletter > * Event/story/message > * Any text or media (photo, video, logo) > > Note: Send more than one event/story/message and rank each in order of > priority. We will try and include as many stories as we can but it > may be possible to only publish one of your stories given space > limitations and the necessity to include a variety of stories. > > Look forward to your suggestions and email anytime if you have any > questions. > > Regards, > > Jana Juginovic > > Director, Global Content & Social Media Engagement > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafik.dammak Wed May 20 15:13:14 2015 From: rafik.dammak (Rafik Dammak) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:13:14 +0900 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Final call for NCSG on IANA stewardship transition draft proposal Message-ID: Hi everyone, thanks to the work done in the last days with comments and edits, we have this statement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit . Some PC members did their own edits there too. the document sounds tidied-up and clean. but any further proof-reading is welcome. We are few hours away from the deadline (20th May 23:59UTC) and there was no objection since we put the draft under review . if there is no strong opposition within PC members in coming hours, I think we can delcare the statement endorsed by NCSG. expressing support is of course welcome. Best, Rafik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Wed May 20 18:38:45 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:38:45 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Final call for NCSG on IANA stewardship transition draft proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E7C6C4B-258D-4A0A-8E42-0BFD2F66D894@egyptig.org> Hi, I still haven?t had the chance to go through the CWG proposal as thoroughly as I would have liked to (apologies, but have had a lot on my plate recently). I have gone through it all once, and from what I?ve gathered both from reading it, and from the discussion we?ve had on yesterday?s NCSG monthly policy call, I?m fine with the NCSG statement. Thanks. Amr On May 20, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > thanks to the work done in the last days with comments and edits, we have this statement https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRSgwIy2T_i8coErf5z3JC0LHoFhjes3K7fWhOxqDZ8/edit . Some PC members did their own edits there too. the document sounds tidied-up and clean. but any further proof-reading is welcome. > > We are few hours away from the deadline (20th May 23:59UTC) and there was no objection since we put the draft under review . if there is no strong opposition within PC members in coming hours, I think we can delcare the statement endorsed by NCSG. expressing support is of course welcome. > > Best, > > Rafik > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From lanfran Wed May 20 20:02:16 2015 From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:02:16 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Final call for NCSG on IANA stewardship transition draft proposal In-Reply-To: <4E7C6C4B-258D-4A0A-8E42-0BFD2F66D894@egyptig.org> References: <4E7C6C4B-258D-4A0A-8E42-0BFD2F66D894@egyptig.org> Message-ID: <555CBE18.5010803@yorku.ca> All, I have read the final draft of the NCSG submission and am personally happy with it. I expect to shortly be able to post a formal endorsement from NPOC as well. /A minor-trivial typo is the sense error -commonly made- in the initial comments where: / Legal and structural separation are key. should be Legal and structural separationis key. Sam On 20/05/2015 11:38 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > I still haven?t had the chance to go through the CWG proposal as thoroughly as I would have liked to (apologies, but have had a lot on my plate recently). I have gone through it all once, and from what I?ve gathered both from reading it, and from the discussion we?ve had on yesterday?s NCSG monthly policy call, I?m fine with the NCSG statement. > > Thanks. > > Amr > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I expect to shortly be able to post a formal endorsement from NPOC > as well. > *A minor-trivial typo is the sense error -commonly made- in the initial > comments where: * Legal and structural separation are key. should be Legal > and structural separation is key. > > Sam > On 20/05/2015 11:38 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > > Hi, > > I still haven?t had the chance to go through the CWG proposal as thoroughly as I would have liked to (apologies, but have had a lot on my plate recently). I have gone through it all once, and from what I?ve gathered both from reading it, and from the discussion we?ve had on yesterday?s NCSG monthly policy call, I?m fine with the NCSG statement. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Specifically, staff have shared with the Board Risk Committee that several of the risks raised by Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group reaffirmed internal reviews that identified the top 10 risks for ICANN. Some of the other risks identified were newly added to the risk register that is maintained by staff and reviewed by the Board Risk Committee. Later in the 2015 calendar year, the Board Risk Committee will oversee the publication of the first Risk Report produced by ICANN?s Enterprise Risk Management function that will provide an overview of the framework, the parameters and the types of risks that are the focus of attention at ICANN. As always, we remain open to your feedback and input as ICANN improves its management of enterprise risk. Regards, Ram Mohan & Mike Silber ICANN Board Risk Committee Co-Chairs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > wrote: That does help Bernie. In other words, if an opinion wasn???t supported by at least 10% of the commenters, i.e., at least 4 commenters, it was included in the numbers for the trend presentation. Chuck *From:*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com ] *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 3:41 PM *To:* Gomes, Chuck *Cc:* Grace Abuhamad; cwg-stewardship at icann.org ; Brenda Brewer *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool Chuck, Exactly what it says, if for a given category 10% or more of respondents stated an opinion for or against it was included. Does this help? B. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > wrote: Thanks a lot to everyone on the staff team for doing this so quickly. On slide 4 of the presentation showing the major trends, what does the following statement mean: ???Those categories representing more than 10% of responses are presented in this document.???? Chuck *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org ] *On Behalf Of *Grace Abuhamad *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 2:34 PM *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org *Cc:* Brenda Brewer *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool Dear all, Staff has compiled a summary overview of the pubic comment submissions and filled out a public comment review tool, noting responses and specific action items for the CWG-Stewardship to consider. Please review these documents and suggest edits based on your assessment of the public comment submissions. The proposed actions for the CWG-Stewardship are highlighted in */blue/* in the response column (far right). The Public Comment Review Tool is very long and may be difficult to read. This is due to staff???s approach in thorough and detailed review. *We will provide a more digestible, action-focused, version of this tool for Tuesday???s meeting. *We are providing the long version to you today to demonstrate our work progress and preparation for next week???s high-intensity meetings. While the Public Comment Review Tool is very detailed, the summary overview is presented in a presentation format and focuses more on the ???bigger picture???. Depending on your review-style, you may be inclined to start with one or the other document. Also, please note that these documents incorporate all (44) submissions received up until the deadline on 20 May at 23:59 UTC. As of 22 May at 16:00 UTC, there are (7) late submissions. These submissions have not yet been incorporated in this document but will be added in time for the high-intensity meetings (along with the submissions received based on the extension for those who are reliant on translations). As a reminder, Brenda kindly pulled all the submissions together on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/o5A0Aw. You can download all the files at once (like a zip file) by clicking on the ???download all??? button at the bottom left side of the macro. Have a good (submission-reading-filled) weekend, Grace _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list CWG-Stewardship at icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship From avri Sat May 23 07:54:16 2015 From: avri (Avri Doria) Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 06:54:16 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool In-Reply-To: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> hi, If you look at the review tool, you know that of course it will be included. And the common practice, which i do not suppose with change for the group you are in, is to work through each and every comment. But it can hardly be included among the trends, if it did not trend. I will not opine on your mental state. avri On 23-May-15 00:49, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > Call me paranoid, but I was worried about that new review tool. Does > this mean we have to have a certain percentage of the comments to have > our comments duly noted? Sure looks like it.....I am of course > thinking about our upcoming comments on PPSAI and WHOIS accuracy..... > Stephanie P > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment > summary and review tool > Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:41:10 -0400 > From: Bernard Turcotte > To: Gomes, Chuck > CC: cwg-stewardship at icann.org , Brenda > Brewer > > > > Correct. > > B. > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > wrote: > > That does help Bernie. In other words, if an opinion wasn???t > supported by at least 10% of the commenters, i.e., at least 4 > commenters, it was included in the numbers for the trend presentation. > > > > Chuck > > > > *From:*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 3:41 PM > *To:* Gomes, Chuck > *Cc:* Grace Abuhamad; cwg-stewardship at icann.org > ; Brenda Brewer > *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment > summary and review tool > > > > Chuck, > > > > Exactly what it says, if for a given category 10% or more of > respondents stated an opinion for or against it was included. > > > > Does this help? > > > > B. > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > wrote: > > Thanks a lot to everyone on the staff team for doing this so > quickly. > > > > On slide 4 of the presentation showing the major trends, what > does the following statement mean: ???Those categories > representing more than 10% of responses are presented in this > document.???? > > > > Chuck > > > > *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org > > [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Grace > Abuhamad > *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 2:34 PM > *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org > *Cc:* Brenda Brewer > *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment > summary and review tool > > > > Dear all, > > > > Staff has compiled a summary overview of the pubic comment > submissions and filled out a public comment review tool, noting > responses and specific action items for the CWG-Stewardship to > consider. Please review these documents and suggest edits based on > your assessment of the public comment submissions. The proposed > actions for the CWG-Stewardship are highlighted in */blue/* in the > response column (far right). > > > > The Public Comment Review Tool is very long and may be difficult > to read. This is due to staff???s approach in thorough and > detailed review. *We will provide a more digestible, > action-focused, version of this tool for Tuesday???s meeting. *We > are providing the long version to you today to demonstrate our > work progress and preparation for next week???s high-intensity > meetings. > > > > While the Public Comment Review Tool is very detailed, the summary > overview is presented in a presentation format and focuses more on > the ???bigger picture???. Depending on your review-style, you may > be inclined to start with one or the other document. > > > > Also, please note that these documents incorporate all (44) > submissions received up until the deadline on 20 May at 23:59 > UTC. As of 22 May at 16:00 UTC, there are (7) late submissions. > These submissions have not yet been incorporated in this document > but will be added in time for the high-intensity meetings (along > with the submissions received based on the extension for those who > are reliant on translations). > > > > As a reminder, Brenda kindly pulled all the submissions together > on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/o5A0Aw. You can > download all the files at once (like a zip file) by clicking > on the ???download all??? button at the bottom left side of the > macro. > > > > Have a good (submission-reading-filled) weekend, > > Grace > > > _______________________________________________ > CWG-Stewardship mailing list > CWG-Stewardship at icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From stephanie.perrin Wed May 27 17:13:00 2015 From: stephanie.perrin (Stephanie Perrin) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:13:00 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool In-Reply-To: <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> References: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> Message-ID: <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> Well, the proof of the synthesis will be in the eating, as they say about puddings. Has anyone ever done a study on the analysis of comments? The EWG did not set me up for a feeling of confidence. cheers SP On 2015-05-23 0:54, Avri Doria wrote: > hi, > > If you look at the review tool, you know that of course it will be > included. And the common practice, which i do not suppose with change > for the group you are in, is to work through each and every comment. > > But it can hardly be included among the trends, if it did not trend. > > I will not opine on your mental state. > > avri > > > On 23-May-15 00:49, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> Call me paranoid, but I was worried about that new review tool. Does >> this mean we have to have a certain percentage of the comments to have >> our comments duly noted? Sure looks like it.....I am of course >> thinking about our upcoming comments on PPSAI and WHOIS accuracy..... >> Stephanie P >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >> summary and review tool >> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:41:10 -0400 >> From: Bernard Turcotte >> To: Gomes, Chuck >> CC: cwg-stewardship at icann.org , Brenda >> Brewer >> >> >> >> Correct. >> >> B. >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > > wrote: >> >> That does help Bernie. In other words, if an opinion wasn???t >> supported by at least 10% of the commenters, i.e., at least 4 >> commenters, it was included in the numbers for the trend presentation. >> >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> *From:*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com >> ] >> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 3:41 PM >> *To:* Gomes, Chuck >> *Cc:* Grace Abuhamad; cwg-stewardship at icann.org >> ; Brenda Brewer >> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >> summary and review tool >> >> >> >> Chuck, >> >> >> >> Exactly what it says, if for a given category 10% or more of >> respondents stated an opinion for or against it was included. >> >> >> >> Does this help? >> >> >> >> B. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck > > wrote: >> >> Thanks a lot to everyone on the staff team for doing this so >> quickly. >> >> >> >> On slide 4 of the presentation showing the major trends, what >> does the following statement mean: ???Those categories >> representing more than 10% of responses are presented in this >> document.???? >> >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org >> >> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org >> ] *On Behalf Of *Grace >> Abuhamad >> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 2:34 PM >> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org >> *Cc:* Brenda Brewer >> *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >> summary and review tool >> >> >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> >> Staff has compiled a summary overview of the pubic comment >> submissions and filled out a public comment review tool, noting >> responses and specific action items for the CWG-Stewardship to >> consider. Please review these documents and suggest edits based on >> your assessment of the public comment submissions. The proposed >> actions for the CWG-Stewardship are highlighted in */blue/* in the >> response column (far right). >> >> >> >> The Public Comment Review Tool is very long and may be difficult >> to read. This is due to staff???s approach in thorough and >> detailed review. *We will provide a more digestible, >> action-focused, version of this tool for Tuesday???s meeting. *We >> are providing the long version to you today to demonstrate our >> work progress and preparation for next week???s high-intensity >> meetings. >> >> >> >> While the Public Comment Review Tool is very detailed, the summary >> overview is presented in a presentation format and focuses more on >> the ???bigger picture???. Depending on your review-style, you may >> be inclined to start with one or the other document. >> >> >> >> Also, please note that these documents incorporate all (44) >> submissions received up until the deadline on 20 May at 23:59 >> UTC. As of 22 May at 16:00 UTC, there are (7) late submissions. >> These submissions have not yet been incorporated in this document >> but will be added in time for the high-intensity meetings (along >> with the submissions received based on the extension for those who >> are reliant on translations). >> >> >> >> As a reminder, Brenda kindly pulled all the submissions together >> on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/o5A0Aw. You can >> download all the files at once (like a zip file) by clicking >> on the ???download all??? button at the bottom left side of the >> macro. >> >> >> >> Have a good (submission-reading-filled) weekend, >> >> Grace >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CWG-Stewardship mailing list >> CWG-Stewardship at icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg From lanfran Wed May 27 18:11:17 2015 From: lanfran (Sam Lanfranco) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:11:17 -0400 Subject: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool In-Reply-To: <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <5565DE95.1020502@yorku.ca> Stephanie, et. al., With regard to comments to WGs, I am reminded of when the book "A Hundred Authors Against Einstein" was published as an attack on Einstein's theory of relativity. Einstein's response was that if he was wrong, one author would have been sufficient to refute him. Hopefully we are still focused on the weight of evidence and analysis, and not turning to running a scorecard on an opinions popularity contest. Sam On 27/05/2015 10:13 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > Well, the proof of the synthesis will be in the eating, as they say > about puddings. Has anyone ever done a study on the analysis of > comments? The EWG did not set me up for a feeling of confidence. > cheers SP > > On 2015-05-23 0:54, Avri Doria wrote: >> hi, >> >> If you look at the review tool, you know that of course it will be >> included. And the common practice, which i do not suppose with change >> for the group you are in, is to work through each and every comment. >> >> But it can hardly be included among the trends, if it did not trend. >> >> I will not opine on your mental state. >> >> avri >> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------ "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured in an unjust state" -Confucius ------------------------------------------------ Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca Skype: slanfranco blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852 From wjdrake Wed May 27 20:01:16 2015 From: wjdrake (William Drake) Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 19:01:16 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool In-Reply-To: <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <63019C50-0038-42E5-A602-AA4A5EB10EB7@gmail.com> > On May 27, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > > the proof of the synthesis will be in the eating The New Yorker used to have a recurring section called Block that Metaphor. Could have submitted this one. BD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aelsadr Thu May 28 14:11:04 2015 From: aelsadr (Amr Elsadr) Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 13:11:04 +0200 Subject: [PC-NCSG] [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment summary and review tool In-Reply-To: <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> References: <555FB290.5020208@mail.utoronto.ca> <556007F8.3000803@acm.org> <5565D0EC.8020309@mail.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: Hi Stephanie, A few working groups I?ve been on have used the public comment review tool (PCRT), which always proved to be very helpful. As Avri has already noted, every comment submitted is always included and addressed in the PCRT, however, the calculation of trends is new to me. As far as I know, the CWG?s use of trends is the first time this has been done (but I stand to be corrected if I am mistaken on this). I don?t expect the PCRT to be problematic in the PPSAI context. Thanks. Amr On May 27, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: > Well, the proof of the synthesis will be in the eating, as they say about puddings. Has anyone ever done a study on the analysis of comments? The EWG did not set me up for a feeling of confidence. > cheers SP > > On 2015-05-23 0:54, Avri Doria wrote: >> hi, >> >> If you look at the review tool, you know that of course it will be >> included. And the common practice, which i do not suppose with change >> for the group you are in, is to work through each and every comment. >> >> But it can hardly be included among the trends, if it did not trend. >> >> I will not opine on your mental state. >> >> avri >> >> >> On 23-May-15 00:49, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >>> Call me paranoid, but I was worried about that new review tool. Does >>> this mean we have to have a certain percentage of the comments to have >>> our comments duly noted? Sure looks like it.....I am of course >>> thinking about our upcoming comments on PPSAI and WHOIS accuracy..... >>> Stephanie P >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >>> summary and review tool >>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 16:41:10 -0400 >>> From: Bernard Turcotte >>> To: Gomes, Chuck >>> CC: cwg-stewardship at icann.org , Brenda >>> Brewer >>> >>> >>> >>> Correct. >>> >>> B. >>> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck >> > wrote: >>> >>> That does help Bernie. In other words, if an opinion wasn???t >>> supported by at least 10% of the commenters, i.e., at least 4 >>> commenters, it was included in the numbers for the trend presentation. >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> *From:*Bernard Turcotte [mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com >>> ] >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 3:41 PM >>> *To:* Gomes, Chuck >>> *Cc:* Grace Abuhamad; cwg-stewardship at icann.org >>> ; Brenda Brewer >>> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >>> summary and review tool >>> >>> >>> Chuck, >>> >>> >>> Exactly what it says, if for a given category 10% or more of >>> respondents stated an opinion for or against it was included. >>> >>> >>> Does this help? >>> >>> >>> B. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Gomes, Chuck >> > wrote: >>> >>> Thanks a lot to everyone on the staff team for doing this so >>> quickly. >>> >>> >>> On slide 4 of the presentation showing the major trends, what >>> does the following statement mean: ???Those categories >>> representing more than 10% of responses are presented in this >>> document.???? >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org >>> >>> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org >>> ] *On Behalf Of *Grace >>> Abuhamad >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2015 2:34 PM >>> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org >>> *Cc:* Brenda Brewer >>> *Subject:* [CWG-Stewardship] For your review: public comment >>> summary and review tool >>> >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> >>> Staff has compiled a summary overview of the pubic comment >>> submissions and filled out a public comment review tool, noting >>> responses and specific action items for the CWG-Stewardship to >>> consider. Please review these documents and suggest edits based on >>> your assessment of the public comment submissions. The proposed >>> actions for the CWG-Stewardship are highlighted in */blue/* in the >>> response column (far right). >>> >>> >>> The Public Comment Review Tool is very long and may be difficult >>> to read. This is due to staff???s approach in thorough and >>> detailed review. *We will provide a more digestible, >>> action-focused, version of this tool for Tuesday???s meeting. *We >>> are providing the long version to you today to demonstrate our >>> work progress and preparation for next week???s high-intensity >>> meetings. >>> >>> >>> While the Public Comment Review Tool is very detailed, the summary >>> overview is presented in a presentation format and focuses more on >>> the ???bigger picture???. Depending on your review-style, you may >>> be inclined to start with one or the other document. >>> >>> >>> Also, please note that these documents incorporate all (44) >>> submissions received up until the deadline on 20 May at 23:59 >>> UTC. As of 22 May at 16:00 UTC, there are (7) late submissions. >>> These submissions have not yet been incorporated in this document >>> but will be added in time for the high-intensity meetings (along >>> with the submissions received based on the extension for those who >>> are reliant on translations). >>> >>> >>> As a reminder, Brenda kindly pulled all the submissions together >>> on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/o5A0Aw. You can >>> download all the files at once (like a zip file) by clicking >>> on the ???download all??? button at the bottom left side of the >>> macro. >>> >>> >>> Have a good (submission-reading-filled) weekend, >>> >>> Grace >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CWG-Stewardship mailing list >>> CWG-Stewardship at icann.org >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PC-NCSG mailing list >> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org >> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-NCSG mailing list > PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org > http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg