[PC-NCSG] Fwd: Fwd: Identity Validation Comments

Fri Mar 13 15:43:29 EET 2015

hi,

ICANN  having staff that is knowledgeable and could keep them from doing
stuff like this could be a good thing.

And this is one of the reasons we need professional advice on such
issues in ICANN, but did not figure this was the place for that argument.

avri

On 13-Mar-15 09:37, Matthew Shears wrote:
>
> I'm fine with this overall and think it is a good piece of work.  Just
> to note that while this is not my "space" rather than encouraging
> ICANN to bring on more staff to address these issues should we not
> just say NO until and when the community has decicded that this issue
> should be addressed?  I am very concerned about scope creep - this is
> yet another example of why we need absolutely explicit limitations on
> staff, Board and CEO in the accountability track.
>
> Matthew
>
> On 3/13/2015 9:00 AM, Edward Morris wrote:
>> Full support for Kathy's statement. I would encourage all PC members
>> to indicate support immediately so this can be submitted as a NCSG
>> endorsed document. Very important issue.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Fwd: Identity Validation Comments
>>> Date: 	Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:02:22 +0100
>>> From: 	Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>> To: 	Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>, Avri Doria
>>> <avri at ACM.ORG>, Robin Gross <robin at IPJUSTICE.ORG>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Could one of you kindly fwd this message to the PC list. My messages
>>> can?t seem to get through a junk filter.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> *From: *Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
>>>> *Subject: **Fwd: Identity Validation Comments*
>>>> *Date: *March 13, 2015 at 12:56:30 PM GMT+1
>>>> *To: *NCSG-Policy <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org
>>>> <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>>
>>>> *Cc: *Kathy Kleiman <kathy at KATHYKLEIMAN.COM
>>>> <mailto:kathy at KATHYKLEIMAN.COM>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The deadline to submit a comment on the WHOIS Accuracy Pilot Study
>>>> Report is today at UTC 23:59. My understanding is that no
>>>> extensions will be granted, as the public comment period has
>>>> already been extended at least once.
>>>>
>>>> I had gone through this report, and found it extremely disturbing,
>>>> particularly because of work that is being proposed on registrant
>>>> identity validation and widespread checking of registrant physical
>>>> addresses. To me, this goes far beyond the RAA requirements in
>>>> assuring contactability of domain name registrants. If I was
>>>> paranoid, I?d suspect that this is a staff-driven effort aimed at
>>>> influencing future policies and bypassing the bottom-up policy
>>>> development process.
>>>>
>>>> Kathy?s drafted, what I believe to be, an excellent comment in
>>>> response. I know time is really tight on this. If the PC can?t
>>>> endorse this today, I will ask her to submit the statement herself,
>>>> and see if the NCSG can support the statement after its submission.
>>>>
>>>> I also encourage Kathy to circulate this the NCSG-DISCUSS list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Amr
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com
>>>>> <mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com>>
>>>>> *Subject: **Identity Validation Comments*
>>>>> *Date: *March 12, 2015 at 10:45:49 PM GMT+1
>>>>> *To: *Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG <mailto:aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Amr,
>>>>> Here they are -- a set of comments for NCSG PC Evaluation of the
>>>>> pending Whois Accuracy Pilot Report by NORC - with far too many
>>>>> buried issues deeply impacting speech and freedom of expression.
>>>>> If you could kindly take a fast look and quick cleanup, I would
>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deadline is tomorrow, but due to initial comments I received last
>>>>> week, I took these back to keep working on them. There are many
>>>>> more citations and quotes now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to be copied on the discussion if at all possible.
>>>>> It's an important discussion!
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the deadline of this rather critically important
>>>>> proceeding is tomorrow, you may want to put a placeholder in that
>>>>> our comments are "coming."
>>>>> Best and tx,
>>>>> Kathy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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