[PC-NCSG] ICANN 53 Constituency Day - Seeking Feedback for ICANN board
Matthew Shears
mshears
Fri Jul 10 16:58:12 EEST 2015
Ed, good suggestions.
Happy to take a role in the Board discussion in Dublin assuming adequate
time to deliberate the issue we would want to discuss.
Matthew
On 7/10/2015 5:42 AM, Edward Morris wrote:
> I actually think we may be spending too much time with "friendlies"
> and not enough time with the others. I had reasonably long
> conversations with Kuo-Wei and Asha and they don't know a heck of a
> lot about us. I also question whether some of our friendlies correctly
> interpret things: for example, the idea the Board would be open to a
> restructuring that would consolidate NC interests in one unit is so
> far from reality that I'm not sure how anyone could reasonably believe
> that. Strategically I also would prioritize members of the BGC: they
> are more important to us than other members on structural matters.
>
> We did not take full advantage of the new structure. The Board was
> looking more for a conversation and we were playing, according to more
> than one of them, gotcha. I've been told the other groups warmed to
> the new structure and we did not. It doesn't matter whether this is
> true is not, that's the perception of some and in this case perception
> is a reality we need to deal with.
>
> At the PC meeting Bill proposed new faces for our leads, something
> that really did not happen. I think that was a good idea. I also think
> we should use the opportunity less to tell the Board what to think and
> more to listen to what and why they think what they do. Conceive of it
> as a first date. Those usually go better when you listen to the other
> person and give her (or he, as the case may be) the chance to speak
> and explain instead of spending the time telling the person how great
> you are and what to think. Both sides need more humility and a desire
> to listen to the other. How you do that with folks like Chris on the
> Board and some of our strong voices on stage I do not know.
>
> In terms of structure I think we may want to break the session down to
> three sortable parts with different people. Let's give the Board a
> chance to see the diversity of the NCSG rather than just telling them
> we are diverse. Question 1 have 4 of us at the table, short break,
> question 2 a different 4 and so on. Physically change the people in
> the hope of rekindling the interest of Board members. It's a long day
> and we're at the end of it. The CSG did something like this and I'm
> told it worked well. We also should make the seating more Board - NCSG
> - Board, instead of having some of us sitting together. And leave the
> PC's off...we can live without chat or email for an hour. This should
> be a strict rule for both sides.
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:03 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> It would be good to send our draft questions to Markus, Wolfgang and
>> maybe one or two other friendlies in advance of finalizing to get a
>> sense how they?d be received etc. Having a follow up breakfast on
>> the Sunday or Monday might also be useful. Somehow we have to change
>> the dynamic, the seating wasn?t sufficient. At the same time, we
>> don?t want to exclude important questions just because someone might
>> get their feathers ruffled for varying unpredictable reasons, but at
>> least we could go into this more cluefully.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> thanks for the comments.
>>> we have usually the meeting in ICANN meeting Thursday with the GNSO
>>> elected board members and that is really productive. shall we have
>>> another breakfast or another kind of meeting with few board members
>>> instead of the cocktail ( which happens by rotation anyway).
>>>
>>> @Others please share your input, same for the thread about
>>> prioritisation.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2015-07-10 4:50 GMT+09:00 Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca
>>> <mailto:lanfran at yorku.ca>>:
>>>
>>> We have been discussing this in NPOC and my position on this is
>>> that the alcohol fueled receptions (large or small) are inferior
>>> to roundtable discussions face-to-face with two or three Board
>>> Members. As for the whole board session, that has the look and
>>> feel of a dog-and-pony show where everything is pro forma and
>>> there is no real dialogue, no matter how good is the question or
>>> comment.
>>>
>>> I would prefer the 2-3 Board member face-to-face meetings, and
>>> reserve a cocktail party for the end-of-meetings ramp down.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2015-07-08 7:26 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> we received this request for input about the joint session we
>>>> had with the board in BA meeting.
>>>>
>>>> We had also the opportunity to talk about when we met Bruce and
>>>> Markus, getting some reactions about the meeting, the topics
>>>> and how we may improve things.
>>>>
>>>> I think there was agreement that we should work out better our
>>>> questions/topics to avoid looking controversial (not sure how
>>>> we can assess that), and trying to liaise with Markus first to
>>>> hash out the topics and/or having pre-meeting confcall to
>>>> prepare for the session. that means more work for us but it can
>>>> also mean having a better outcome and being more action-oriented.
>>>>
>>>> we can comment about the format and the changes. my initial
>>>> comment was that the board self-defeated the purpose of getting
>>>> earlier the topics when it didn't respond till on month after
>>>> receiving them and few days before the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> please share you thoughts and input that you think we should
>>>> send to board.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: *Megan Bishop* <megan.bishop at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:megan.bishop at icann.org>>
>>>> Date: 2015-07-09 4:54 GMT+09:00
>>>> Subject: ICANN 53 Constituency Day - Seeking Feedback
>>>> To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>, "william.drake at uzh.ch
>>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>" <william.drake at uzh.ch
>>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>, "rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>>>> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>" <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>>>> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>>
>>>> Cc: David Olive <david.olive at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Following on from the roundtable experiment at Constituency Day
>>>> in Buenos Aires, the ICANN Board is interested to hear feedback
>>>> from you and your groups on how the changes were received, and
>>>> what areas can be improved upon. Another element we?d like
>>>> feedback on is the rotating schedule of informal cocktail
>>>> receptions. Please let us hear your feedback on that as well.
>>>>
>>>> I will collect all comments/suggestions received and send them
>>>> on to the Board in preparation for ICANN 54 in Dublin.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Megan
>>>>
>>>> Megan Bishop
>>>> Board Support Coordinator
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>
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