[PC-NCSG] NCSG comment on the CCWG-Accountability's Recommendations for Work-Stream 1

Tue Dec 22 00:19:19 EET 2015

I understand the particular perspectives taken on 1, 9, 10 and 11. And I 
recognize that I have not been able to participate in many of the calls.

This said, I think on these particular recommendations it would have 
been desirable to make very clear any proposals that we might have had 
for the CCWG to address rather than outright rejecting some of them.  
Could we, for example, have said that we object to the WHOIS treatment 
but have made some related proposals and still support the incorporation 
of the AOCs?

Then again, if we are going to discuss the concerns of he SGs more fuly 
in the CCWG perhaps we can do so then.

Matthew

On 21/12/2015 23:14, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes?, the NCSG response indicated a disagreement with recommendations 1, 9, 10 and 11. I?ve been trying to load the google doc with the reasoning, but have been having trouble with it for a few minutes.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 11:25 PM, avri <avri at ella.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Did we include the recommendation against incorporating AOC reviews?
>>
>> Avri
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>> Date:12/21/2015 4:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: NCSG-Policy Policy NCSG-Policy <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] NCSG comment on the CCWG-Accountability's Recommendations for Work-Stream 1
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I?ve submitted the NCSG response via the survey, and I received a notification informing me that a PDF version of the response would be generated, and posted on the public comment forum within 24 hours. So I guess I won't submit a duplicate document then.
>>
>> I?ll share the link to this list once the NCSG comment is posted.
>>
>> Thanks again to everyone.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi yet again,
>>>
>>> I haven?t seen anyone raise objections over the past couple of days on the drafted responses to each of the CCWG?s proposed recommendations, so I?m calling it. Thanks again to all who participated in the getting the CCWG to where it is today, and everyone who was involved in drafting this comment.
>>>
>>> I?m waiting for Robin and Ed to finish cleaning up the comments now. Once that is done, we?ll be able to submit them via both the traditional public comment forum, as well as surveymonkey.
>>>
>>> I believe Tapani may be offline and roughing it in some outback right now, so when the work is done, I?ll go ahead and make the submissions.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I haven?t heard from anyone on this, and we only have a few hours to the deadline. Unless anyone objects to the responses drafted, I will assume that we at least have rough consensus on endorsing these as NCSG responses to the proposed recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> I am still unclear on how folks would like to submit these. I?m assuming using the survey is acceptable?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Amr
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The deadline to submit a public comment on these recommendations is coming up in just a little over 48 hours. A number of NCSG members have done a great job on drafting responses to each of the recommendations on behalf of the NCSG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Links to the responses to each of the recommendations can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TQEH74OPyWWp2hraJ9NDlvW2GezeX3ntqHFOKdkxFYc/edit?pref=2&pli=1.
>>>>>
>>>>> I?m guessing most members of the NCSG Policy Committee are familiar with the content on each of the NCSG responses. If you haven?t read them all, we did have a number of opportunities to go over them on NCSG policy calls/webinars. If there are any concerns, please raise them as soon as you can. I?m hoping we can agree on NCSG endorsement of these by December 21st at UTC 17:00?, just a few hours before the deadline for submissions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also wanted to ask how folks would like to submit the NCSG response. My understanding is that there is a survey that could be used to submit the NCSG comments on each of the recommendations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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