[PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what we all have time for

Matthew Shears mshears
Thu Aug 6 12:03:15 EEST 2015


I'm OK with this formulation - thanks.

On 8/6/2015 10:00 AM, David Cake wrote:
> I?m certainly OK with it. The interview process was a sensible idea, I 
> thought.
>
> Only one caveat I?d suggest - IF there is an NCPH candidate for chair, 
> chair and vice-chair should be considered together.
>
>
> David
>
>
>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 4:25 pm, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks,
>> so I can assume that we are ok with small amendment proposed by CSG? 
>> looking to hear from other so I can respond to Steve.
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2015-07-26 6:10 GMT+09:00 Joy Liddicoat <joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz 
>> <mailto:joy at liddicoatlaw.co.nz>>:
>>
>>     Hi ? I also agree
>>
>>     Joy
>>
>>     *From:*PC-NCSG [mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org
>>     <mailto:pc-ncsg-bounces at ipjustice.org>] *On Behalf Of *Marilia Maciel
>>     *Sent:* Friday, 24 July 2015 12:21 a.m.
>>     *To:* Rafik Dammak
>>     *Cc:* NCSG-Policy
>>     *Subject:* Re: [PC-NCSG] [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair
>>     election - just what we all have time for
>>
>>     Also agree.
>>
>>     Mar?lia
>>
>>     On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Rafik Dammak
>>     <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     it sounds a fair request, CSG conducted such interviews for
>>     candidates for previous elections.
>>
>>     @everyone is there any objection or suggestion? we should respond
>>     soon ,
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>     2015-07-19 22:55 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin
>>     <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>>     <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>:
>>
>>     sounds reasonable to me...but I am perhaps not suffficiently
>>     exercise on this issue.
>>     cheers SP
>>
>>     On 2015-07-19 9:21, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Also fine by me. Perhaps also formalise the option to interview
>>     the candidate? If I recall correctly, they held a call with David
>>     prior to agreeing to him as a VC. This is only a suggestion. It
>>     may (or may not) come in handy at some point.
>>
>>     Thanks.
>>
>>     Amr
>>
>>     On Jul 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Fine by me.
>>
>>     BD
>>
>>     On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Rafik Dammak
>>     <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi everyone,
>>
>>     You will found below the comments from CSG to Avri
>>     counter-proposal regarding VC chair process. they will accept it
>>     and offering an amendment.
>>     can you please review so we can move forward with this issue. the
>>     VC chair election is coming soon.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>     From: Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com <mailto:met at msk.com>>
>>     Date: 2015-07-14 7:54 GMT+09:00
>>     Subject: RE: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>>     just what we all have time for
>>     To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>>     Hi Rafik,
>>
>>
>>     This was discussed by the CSG Executive Committee last week, and
>>     we are prepared to accept the counter-proposal with one change. 
>>     We did not understand why the first round was structured as a
>>     ?vote against round, i.e., a voting procedure where everyone
>>     votes for the candidate they would like to see least in the
>>     role.?   We think the same objective could be achieved by a
>>     conventional voting procedure, with the top two (or more in case
>>     of a tie) vote getters proceeding to the second round.
>>
>>
>>     With that change we are prepared to move toward setting a
>>     schedule for the vice chair election (i.e., a deadline for
>>     nominations, acceptances, and scheduling of the rounds). Please
>>     let me know if NCSG will accept this relatively minor change so
>>     we can move to the next step
>>
>>
>>     The CSG Executive Committee also wished to convey that while we
>>     are prepared to accept this approach for this year, our proposal
>>     form last January remains on the table in order to provide a
>>     permanent solution through rotation of nominations.
>>
>>
>>     Looking forward to your response.
>>
>>
>>     Steve Metalitz
>>
>>
>>     .
>>
>>     From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
>>     Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 10:55 PM
>>     To: Metalitz, Steven
>>     Subject: Re: FW: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election -
>>     just what we all have time for
>>
>>
>>     Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>>     thanks for the email, yes it can be considered as a
>>     counter-proposal to be discussed. definitely we have to solve
>>     before the coming soon VC election.
>>
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>     Rafik
>>
>>
>>     2015-07-07 2:14 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com
>>     <mailto:met at msk.com>>:
>>
>>     Hi Rafik,
>>
>>
>>     I hope this finds you well and fully recovered from travel to
>>     Buenos Aires.
>>
>>
>>     As you may recall, NCSG participants in in the January
>>     intersessional in Washington committed to providing a
>>     counter-proposal by the end of the Singapore meeting to the CSG
>>     proposal on election procedures going forward for the vice chair
>>     slot.  The rest of the CSG leadership asked me to check with you
>>     on whether Avri?s text at the link below is in fact the
>>     counter-proposal from NCSG, and if not, when we could expect to
>>     receive one.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>     Steve Metalitz , for CSG Executive Committee
>>
>>     From: gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>
>>     [mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of
>>     Avri Doria
>>     Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:42 AM
>>     To: gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org>
>>     Subject: [Gnso-ncph-leadership] NCPH v-chair election - just what
>>     we all have time for
>>
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Sometime in February, I created this first version of a simple
>>     procedure
>>     for NCPH election of a v-chair. I gave this to Rafik and David. David
>>     was unhappy with it, and then I got distracted and further work just
>>     stalled.
>>
>>     So here we are, one meeting away from needing to elect a new v-chair.
>>     While knowing that no one but me thinks this is a possible way to go,
>>     here it is to beat on.
>>
>>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zpkznZGutvze0hI4BLePoaZWoqLWhioq-tjwVKCiyqs/edit?usp=sharing>
>>
>>     The doc is open for comments and suggested changes by anyone with the
>>     URL. At the moment Rakif, David and I am the only editors, but more
>>     than happy to add SG/C others, all you need to do is let me know what
>>     email/login you use for editing drive docs. The editors would be the
>>     ones to accept the changes - I don't want to presume to do so -
>>     except
>>     of course for typos, which I will gladly accept. Note, however,
>>     you do
>>     not need to have edit priviledge to suggest changes, and I recommend
>>     that even those with editor priviledge use suggest mode to
>>     suggest changes.
>>
>>     avri
>>
>>
>>
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