[PC-NCSG] resending the GNSO documents

Amr Elsadr aelsadr
Sat Aug 1 15:30:41 EEST 2015 

So am I. Would be good to hear from others here as well. On a personal, I thought Ed?s submission was quite provoking. Certainly worth a read. Thanks for that, Ed.

Might also be worth looking at the summary of comments from sessions at ICANN 53 (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-gnso-review-01jun15/pdfdG81WdzuPx.pdf). As far as I can tell, transcripts of all of our interactions in BA with the Westlake team are present in a spreadsheet along with their responses. I hope those will be considered by Westlake and the working party while formulating the final report.

For the time being, can we have a show of hands indicating support or lack of for the following comments:

Stephanie?s: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-gnso-review-01jun15/msg00014.html

Ed?s: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-gnso-review-01jun15/msg00013.html

Mine: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-gnso-review-01jun15/pdfjkahfPFXN2.pdf

Thanks again to everyone.

Amr

> On Aug 1, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
> 
> 
> yep, that would work.
> as ong as you have buy in.
> 
> i'm in.
> 
> avri
> 
> On 01-Aug-15 13:49, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That is also my understanding, although I am not sure how to go about doing it. Submission of emails to the comment forum is still open. I suppose that if we decide to, Rafik (or I) could send an email to the forum stating that the NCSG endorses on or more of the three comments submitted by our members.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Amr
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> BTW if our chair and others wish we could still sumit, even late, and
>>> endorsement of the comments that were filed by our members.
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> On 01-Aug-15 01:04, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>> Off it goes then....
>>>> cheers sp
>>>> 
>>>> On 2015-07-31 18:54, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>> Ok here is the amended version.  Any other signatures?  I put down
>>>>> me, avri, ed and James.  Anybody else ready to sign on?  Looks a wee
>>>>> bit lame....
>>>>> cheers SP
>>>>> On 2015-07-31 18:37, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>>> thanks Avri, I will put your name down. all those who want their
>>>>>> name on it please let me know, sending v soon....time is up.
>>>>>> cheers steph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2015-07-31 18:32, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have been too focused on other stutff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and though i know it is too late,
>>>>>>> I am fine with NCSG sending in an endorsement of the 2 comments.
>>>>>>> or whatever was already done.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks for doing all this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> avri
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 01-Aug-15 00:22, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank Ed, good catch.  Since NCUC and I both sent comments on the
>>>>>>>> methodology, and we are only doing this now as me with signatories, I
>>>>>>>> shall refer to them both.
>>>>>>>> cheers SP
>>>>>>>> On 2015-07-31 18:11, Edward Morris wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Stephanie,
>>>>>>>>> I'd first like to thank Klaus for the work he did on his personal
>>>>>>>>> comment on this matter. First rate and I agree with most of it.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for doing it.
>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to endorse this document, Steph, despite my misgivings
>>>>>>>>> about taking anything Westlake does seriously. The only minor point
>>>>>>>>> is that the NCSG did not previously, to the best of my knowledge,
>>>>>>>>> submit comments on the first draft. That was done by the
>>>>>>>>> constituencies.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all of your work on this Stephanie.
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *From*: "Stephanie Perrin" <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent*: Friday, July 31, 2015 9:48 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To*: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org
>>>>>>>>> *Subject*: Re: [PC-NCSG] resending the GNSO documents
>>>>>>>>> Fair enough, can we gather a list of folks who will sign on?
>>>>>>>>> SP
>>>>>>>>> On 2015-07-31 14:51, Klaus Stoll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Stephanie and Friends
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I understand and appreciate all the hard work that has been done on
>>>>>>>>>> this document. However, I feel that I can not agree on that this
>>>>>>>>>> document is send as the position of the whole NCSG. It simply has
>>>>>>>>>> not been discussed broadly enough and just the members of the PC is
>>>>>>>>>> not enough for such an important letter.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have no objection that the letter is forwarded with signatures on
>>>>>>>>>> a personal basis.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yours
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Klaus
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2015 1:03 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> New version of the 2 pager folks, I have incorporated James' edits
>>>>>>>>>>> and added a mini paragraph acknowledging that the first 19
>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations do attempt to deal with worker burnout ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for the rapid turnaround James!!
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers SP
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-07-31 12:51, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us say that at UTC 23:00 I will send them in as personal
>>>>>>>>>>>> comments, if we have not achieved concensus on them yet.  That is
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 6 hours from now folks, achieving consensus is doable if
>>>>>>>>>>>> folks try....
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers Steph
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-07-31 11:34, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Stephanie. I?m going through these now. May I ask other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> members of the PC to also go through the documents Stephanie has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided, and give feedback and indicate whether or not they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support these as NCSG submissions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently some did not receive this yesterday, my apologies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were sent at 17:33 and 23:18 yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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