[PC-NCSG] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice

Mon Oct 6 12:25:13 EEST 2014

Thanks Rudi, I will submit the comment.

Rafik

2014-10-06 17:48 GMT+09:00 Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>:

> Hi Rafik,
>
> Sorry, I have been offline since friday due to family matters.
>
> Yes we can consider the statement being endorsed by a majority of the PC
> NCSG members.
>
> Rudi Vansnick
>
>
> Op 6-okt.-2014, om 08:53 heeft Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Rudi, Maria,
>
> can we consider the statement endorsed? the deadline to send the comment
> is today.
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-10-05 21:10 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Amr,
>>
>> yes I think the deadline for consensus is already passed.
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> 2014-10-05 21:10 GMT+09:00 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> May we now consider this consensus period closed? I note Avri?s
>>> abstention, but there were no objections unless I missed them. The last
>>> draft is attached to this email.
>>>
>>> I?m not sure if the PC has also decided to endorse the other comments
>>> that were suggested, or not.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I support it.
>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>> On 2014-10-02, 5:57, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>  Based on the request received by Amr Elsadr (see below), I?m calling
>>> for a consensus vote on the NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC
>>> advice. The comment can be found here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>>
>>>  This e-vote consensus call will last till Saturday 4 October 23:59
>>> UTC. Thus allowing us to provide NCSG comments before the deadline (6th
>>> October).
>>> May I request prompt action please ?
>>>
>>>  Kind regards,
>>>
>>>   Rudi Vansnick
>>> Alternate chair PC-NCSG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
>>>
>>>  *Van: *Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>>  *Onderwerp: **Antw.: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] [Contribution] Working
>>> on NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice*
>>>  *Datum: *1 oktober 2014 17:25:57 CEST
>>>  *Aan: *NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU, NCSG Policy Committee <
>>> PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>  I?m reopening this thread because there have been a significant number
>>> of changes to the comment I would like to submit on behalf of the NCSG for
>>> the reply period on the by-laws change regarding the ICANN board?s
>>> rejection of GAC Advice.
>>>
>>>  The comment can be found here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>>
>>>  There has been some discussion regarding what to keep in the comment,
>>> and what to take out on the NCSG Policy Committee list. This is the last
>>> bit I?ve come up with. If you do read it, please note that I also plan on
>>> taking the second sentence out of the first paragraph, unless I hear
>>> objections against doing so. At this point, I?d like to know if there are
>>> any objections to submitting the comment in its current form. I ask this to
>>> both the NCSG PC members, as well as the full NCSG membership.
>>>
>>>  Finally, I would also appreciate it if the NCSG (in its response)
>>> endorses the comments submitted by the NCSG members:
>>>
>>>  1. Milton Mueller
>>> 2. Robin Gross
>>> 3. Edward Morris
>>> 4. Avri Doria
>>> 5. Wisdom Kwasi
>>> 6. Amr Elsadr (me)
>>>
>>>  as well as two other comments submitted by:
>>>
>>>  1. Tucows (
>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html)
>>> and
>>> 2. The Internet Infrastructure Coalition (
>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html
>>> )
>>>
>>>  The deadline for submission is on October 6th, so I would appreciate
>>> it if the NCSG PC also set a deadline for a consensus call.
>>>
>>>  Thanks everyone.
>>>
>>>  Amr
>>>
>>>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>>  Amr
>>>
>>>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez <
>>> carlosraulg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Only one additional comment: there is already a direct liaison between
>>> GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active communication and engagement.
>>>
>>>  Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
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>>>  El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> escribi?:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>  I?ve tried to capture the essence of the different comments submitted
>>> by NCSG members including, Milton, Robin, Ed, Avri, Wisdom and my own. I
>>> don?t know if it does them all justice, but I?ve posted it here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>  If I?ve missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, please
>>> let me know.
>>>
>>>  The document is open for viewing and editing, but it?d be helpful if
>>> folks highlighted and commented on proposed changes so I can keep track of
>>> them.
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>
>>>  Amr
>>>
>>>  On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>  I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by NCSG members into
>>> one document and see if folks like it. I believe that they all cover
>>> different and important aspects of why the proposed by-laws amendment is
>>> really bad!!
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>
>>>  Amr
>>>
>>>  On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>  Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution and sharing it with
>>> us.
>>> we had discussion within NCSG list about the proposal and maybe it is
>>> time to summarise a common position on that matter. we need volunteer(s) to
>>> collect the opinions shared in the list and draft a comment for review.
>>>  the deadline is 14th september but we have still the reply period we can
>>> use to submit our comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>>>
>>>  @Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to
>>> volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>>>
>>>  Thanks!
>>>
>>>  Best,
>>>
>>>  Rafik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
>>> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23 GMT+09:00
>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted individual comment on GAC advice
>>> amendment
>>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I submitted an individual comment.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>>>
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
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