[PC-NCSG] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice

Thu Oct 2 19:43:46 EEST 2014

I support it.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2014-10-02, 5:57, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the request received by Amr Elsadr (see below), I'm calling 
> for a consensus vote on the NCSG position regarding by-laws change for 
> GAC advice. The comment can be found here: 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>
> This e-vote consensus call will last till Saturday 4 October 23:59 
> UTC. Thus allowing us to provide NCSG comments before the deadline 
> (6th October).
> May I request prompt action please ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rudi Vansnick
> Alternate chair PC-NCSG
>
>
>
> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
>
>> *Van: *Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>
>> *Onderwerp: **Antw.: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] [Contribution] Working 
>> on NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice*
>> *Datum: *1 oktober 2014 17:25:57 CEST
>> *Aan: *NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU 
>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>, NCSG Policy Committee 
>> <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org <mailto:PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm reopening this thread because there have been a significant 
>> number of changes to the comment I would like to submit on behalf of 
>> the NCSG for the reply period on the by-laws change regarding the 
>> ICANN board's rejection of GAC Advice.
>>
>> The comment can be found here: 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>
>> There has been some discussion regarding what to keep in the comment, 
>> and what to take out on the NCSG Policy Committee list. This is the 
>> last bit I've come up with. If you do read it, please note that I 
>> also plan on taking the second sentence out of the first paragraph, 
>> unless I hear objections against doing so. At this point, I'd like to 
>> know if there are any objections to submitting the comment in its 
>> current form. I ask this to both the NCSG PC members, as well as the 
>> full NCSG membership.
>>
>> Finally, I would also appreciate it if the NCSG (in its response) 
>> endorses the comments submitted by the NCSG members:
>>
>> 1. Milton Mueller
>> 2. Robin Gross
>> 3. Edward Morris
>> 4. Avri Doria
>> 5. Wisdom Kwasi
>> 6. Amr Elsadr (me)
>>
>> as well as two other comments submitted by:
>>
>> 1. Tucows 
>> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html) 
>> and
>> 2. The Internet Infrastructure Coalition 
>> (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html)
>>
>> The deadline for submission is on October 6th, so I would appreciate 
>> it if the NCSG PC also set a deadline for a consensus call.
>>
>> Thanks everyone.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org 
>> <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez 
>>> <carlosraulg at gmail.com <mailto:carlosraulg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Only one additional comment: there is already a direct liaison 
>>>> between GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active communication and 
>>>> engagement.
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
>>>> Chair ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>>>> _____________________
>>>>
>>>> email: crg at isoc-cr.org <mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org>
>>>> Skype: carlos.raulg
>>>> +506 8335 2487
>>>>
>>>> La Internet Society (ISOC) es una organizaci?n internacional sin 
>>>> fines de lucro fundada en 1992 para proporcionar liderazgo en 
>>>> est?ndares relacionados educaci?n y pol?tica de Internet. Con 
>>>> oficinas en Washington DC, Estados Unidos, y en Ginebra, Suiza, 
>>>> busca asegurar el desarrollo, la evoluci?n y la utilizaci?n de 
>>>> Internet en beneficio de las personas en todo el mundo.
>>>>
>>>> El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG 
>>>> <mailto:aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG>> escribi?:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried to capture the essence of the different comments 
>>>>> submitted by NCSG members including, Milton, Robin, Ed, Avri, 
>>>>> Wisdom and my own. I don't know if it does them all justice, but 
>>>>> I've posted it here: 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> If I've missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, 
>>>>> please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> The document is open for viewing and editing, but it'd be helpful 
>>>>> if folks highlighted and commented on proposed changes so I can 
>>>>> keep track of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org 
>>>>> <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by NCSG members 
>>>>>> into one document and see if folks like it. I believe that they 
>>>>>> all cover different and important aspects of why the proposed 
>>>>>> by-laws amendment is really bad!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak 
>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM <mailto:rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution and sharing 
>>>>>>> it with us.
>>>>>>> we had discussion within NCSG list about the proposal and maybe 
>>>>>>> it is time to summarise a common position on that matter. we 
>>>>>>> need volunteer(s) to collect the opinions shared in the list and 
>>>>>>> draft a comment for review.  the deadline is 14th september but 
>>>>>>> we have still the reply period we can use to submit our comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to 
>>>>>>> volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: *Avri Doria* <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>
>>>>>>> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23 GMT+09:00
>>>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted individual comment on GAC 
>>>>>>> advice amendment
>>>>>>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu 
>>>>>>> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I submitted an individual comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avri
>>>>>>>
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