[PC-NCSG] NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice

Thu Oct 2 13:38:54 EEST 2014

Hi,

While I agree with the recommendation against the change in the
response, I disagree with many of the reasons given and with many of the
given arguments for these reasons.

I, therefore, abstain

avri

On 02-Oct-14 05:57, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Based on the request received by Amr Elsadr (see below), I?m calling for a consensus vote on the NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice. The comment can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
> 
> This e-vote consensus call will last till Saturday 4 October 23:59 UTC. Thus allowing us to provide NCSG comments before the deadline (6th October).
> May I request prompt action please ?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Rudi Vansnick
> Alternate chair PC-NCSG
> 
> 
> 
> Begin doorgestuurd bericht:
> 
>> Van: Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>> Onderwerp: Antw.: [PC-NCSG] [NCSG-Discuss] [Contribution] Working on NCSG position regarding by-laws change for GAC advice
>> Datum: 1 oktober 2014 17:25:57 CEST
>> Aan: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU, NCSG Policy Committee <PC-NCSG at ipjustice.org>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I?m reopening this thread because there have been a significant number of changes to the comment I would like to submit on behalf of the NCSG for the reply period on the by-laws change regarding the ICANN board?s rejection of GAC Advice.
>>
>> The comment can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit
>>
>> There has been some discussion regarding what to keep in the comment, and what to take out on the NCSG Policy Committee list. This is the last bit I?ve come up with. If you do read it, please note that I also plan on taking the second sentence out of the first paragraph, unless I hear objections against doing so. At this point, I?d like to know if there are any objections to submitting the comment in its current form. I ask this to both the NCSG PC members, as well as the full NCSG membership.
>>
>> Finally, I would also appreciate it if the NCSG (in its response) endorses the comments submitted by the NCSG members:
>>
>> 1. Milton Mueller
>> 2. Robin Gross
>> 3. Edward Morris
>> 4. Avri Doria
>> 5. Wisdom Kwasi
>> 6. Amr Elsadr (me)
>>
>> as well as two other comments submitted by:
>>
>> 1. Tucows (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00038.html) and
>> 2. The Internet Infrastructure Coalition (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00032.html)
>>
>> The deadline for submission is on October 6th, so I would appreciate it if the NCSG PC also set a deadline for a consensus call.
>>
>> Thanks everyone.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Great catch, Carlos. Slipped my mind. Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> Amr
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez <carlosraulg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Only one additional comment: there is already a direct liaison between GNSO and GAC to ensure early and active communication and engagement. 
>>>>
>>>> Carlos Ra?l Guti?rrez
>>>> Chair ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>>>> _____________________
>>>>
>>>> email:   	crg at isoc-cr.org
>>>> Skype:  	carlos.raulg
>>>>              	+506 8335 2487 
>>>>
>>>> La Internet Society (ISOC) es una organizaci?n internacional sin fines de lucro fundada en 1992 para proporcionar liderazgo en est?ndares relacionados educaci?n y pol?tica de Internet. Con oficinas en Washington DC, Estados Unidos, y en Ginebra, Suiza, busca asegurar el desarrollo, la evoluci?n y la utilizaci?n de Internet en beneficio de las personas en todo el mundo.
>>>>
>>>> El 15/09/2014, a las 08:58, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at EGYPTIG.ORG> escribi?:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I?ve tried to capture the essence of the different comments submitted by NCSG members including, Milton, Robin, Ed, Avri, Wisdom and my own. I don?t know if it does them all justice, but I?ve posted it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ISi_1cIaG3Hl4hzCM2VVc8sBsqGJQw6WR3vr6tptUcI/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> If I?ve missed any other comments submitted by NCSG members, please let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> The document is open for viewing and editing, but it?d be helpful if folks highlighted and commented on proposed changes so I can keep track of them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amr
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could try to consolidate the comments submitted by NCSG members into one document and see if folks like it. I believe that they all cover different and important aspects of why the proposed by-laws amendment is really bad!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Avri again for submitting your contribution and sharing it with us. 
>>>>>>> we had discussion within NCSG list about the proposal and maybe it is time to summarise a common position on that matter. we need volunteer(s) to collect the opinions shared in the list and draft a comment for review.  the deadline is 14th september but we have still the reply period we can use to submit our comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/bylaws-amend-gac-advice-2014-08-15-en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Amr @Kathy you participated in the discussion is it possible to volunteer for drafting a NCSG contribution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
>>>>>>> Date: 2014-09-09 3:23 GMT+09:00
>>>>>>> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Submitted individual comment on GAC advice amendment
>>>>>>> To: NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I submitted an individual comment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-bylaws-amend-gac-advice-15aug14/msg00017.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> avri
>>>>>>>
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