[PC-NCSG] Do we need to have a call?

Maria Farrell maria.farrell
Mon Nov 24 19:56:43 EET 2014


Thanks, Avri. So I'm simply an observer. I'm just relieved I haven't slowed
things down, then!

Maria

On 24 November 2014 at 14:58, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I can see Steph?s point, but also agree we already have many calls to
> attend. I think that the best way to go is to be more efficient and take
> the most from the call we have. I have two suggestions:
>
> - Could we agree on a date for our members who are part of WGs to report
> back with key issues about the work of the WG that NCSG PC should take
> position in the next mtg? This is based on WG agenda, not GNSO, so maybe we
> would have more time to be informed about substantive things. Sharing
> concrete and concise issues/questions about course of action would be
> helpful. And setting a date would help us keep track of incoming info, I
> think.
>
> - I am missing a way to have a quick and clear view about what is going on
> in the WGs, the stage of dicussions, the deadlines for action... all in one
> focal point. Some time ago I made a spreadsheet that could be uploaded in
> drive and shared among our members. I enclose the spreadsheet attached.
> Although some ppl had the feeling that this spreadsheet would not be very
> useful and would duplicate the space that we have here:
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40928134 I would
> like to make the suggestion again, because I feel the online space is: a)
> incomplete; b) harder to keep updated than a drive file; c) Not enough
> collaborative; d) completely public, so not good to share internal info
> there.
> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40928134>
>
> My two cents.
> Thanks
> Mar?lia
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I assumed you weren't either since once you ceased being a council member
>> your seat on the PC was taken by another council member and you became an
>> observer in the group.
>>
>> I don't think our charter allows observers to be chair.
>>
>> We had an alternate chair for a bit, but then he left.
>>
>> For the CCWG-Account I presumed to play chair, since i had been an alt-
>> chair last year and gap filling is a natural inclination of mine.
>>
>> And while the charter prohibits Rafik from being PC Chair, I am hoping he
>> will act as chair pro tem until we get an election done.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 24-Nov-14 11:26, Maria Farrell wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry! Been in the midst of an intensive teaching and prep period, not that it's an excuse given what others manage to get done...
>>
>> Just for clarification, am I still chair? I had foolishly assumed I wasn't.
>>
>> My apologies, m
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>  On 23 Nov 2014, at 17:20, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree, it just seems not much is happening.  Those of us on working groups (pol/impl, ppsai being mine) could use some input from others as we are influencing outcomes.
>> cheers Steph
>>
>>  On 14-11-23 3:49 AM, William Drake wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>  On Nov 22, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Folks, there was some discussion a couple of weeks ago about the need to have a regular call.  I think it is a good idea, others thought the list worked.  We have a number of things that need to be worked on, and some that need a decision.  Can someone please remind me of what they are?
>> And if we are not going to have a meeting then perhaps a more vigorous discussion of things that need a decision would be a good idea.
>> cheers Stephanie
>>
>>  On the Nov. 11 NCSG PC call I raised the chair topic and suggested that Amr would be great at this, since he?s both a process and a substance maven.  Avri suggested that given the workload and past experience with inconsistent chairing it?d be desirable to have a non-Councilor in the role (although then we have a chair elected by a constituency rather than the whole SG).  I?m not aware that the conversation has proceeded beyond this, has it?  It would seem pressing to resolve.
>>
>> Re: establishing a second monthly NCSG PC call, I?m wondering if maybe we couldn?t first try to
>>
>> *make sure all PC members attend the one we already have
>> *unburden the agenda a little by having email exchanges in advance about the Council agenda so that the calls would only have to focus on the pressing and/or complicated items, rather than walk through every one of them
>> *when needed, add a half hour onto the extant calls to ensure adequate time for discussion of items beyond the next Council meeting, e.g. WS, public comments and other outputs.
>>
>> It just seems to me that many of us already spend quite a bit of time on ICANN teleconferences, so before adding another to our regular diets we might want try to leverage the one we have.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Bill
>>
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