[PC-NCSG] discussion re a number of privacy matters

[Stephanie Perrin]

Ok I will put out some feelers.  See if anyone in London (or close) is interested in helping.  More soon...
cheers steph
PS back home after tiring working group meeting of EWG in LA....this is pushing a heavy rock up a long steep hill, but I think progress is coming.
On 2014-05-03, at 4:38 AM, Rafik Dammak wrote:

> Hi Stephanie,
> 
> I have noticed that some stakeholders just show up at an ICANN meeting (Singapore, Buenos Aires) and demand a meeting with the EWG.  (e.g.. Interpol)
>  
> in fact LEAs usually  attend ICANN meetings but they have closed sessions. things may change soon. 
> 
> I have repeatedly (as others have) suggested meeting with data commissioners.  I think the thing to do for the London meeting, is engineer a meeting in town (possibly persuade Privacy International to hold a little workshop) and get them to invite a couple of solid data commissioners over, then bring the whole meeting to ICANN for the open mike session, or any presentation we might hold as EWG.
> 
> we may get european based data commissioners including folks of Article 29 WG(which is still angry with ICANN and reminded about the latest rejection of data retention), but that should be done soon .  
> 
>  There is no point in getting ICANN to do it, they don?t want to.They will offer to send Nigel Hickson in to talk to them.  I like Nigel, but having him go see them does not move the yardsticks on this. 
> 
> nobody will suggest ICANN for that, we told them about listening to data commissioner, nothing was done.
>  
> We also need support on the secure credentials thing?.so we could use some folks who are interested in that. (by the way, my emails to David Cake are bouncing any idea why??)  I would love to get Ross Anderson there, so I will reach out to him, maybe even Caspar Bowden might help.  He understands U-prove well.
> 
> Caspar would be great , he is a rising star .
> This is all I meant by ambush?.get our own people there. 
> 
> understood, now time for planning and action.
> 
> Rafik
>  
> cheers sp
> 
> On May 2, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephanie,
>> 
>> what do you mean by ambush meeting :)?
>> 
>> Rafik
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-05-02 21:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>:
>> Thanks Amr!  Be ready!  We need to invite some data commissioners to the London meeting, we need to have an ambush meeting.  More later...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On May 2, 2014, at 4:17 AM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Stephanie,
>> >
>> > Thanks for sticking with it!! I can imagine what kind of output would be coming out of the EWG if you weren?t actively participating in it, and I doubt it would have been any good. :)
>> >
>> > Amr
>> >
>> >> On May 2, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi folks, when do we have the next policy meeting?  there are a number of privacy issues looming which I would like to put on the agenda, notably:
>> >> *    the imminent release of the whois report, and what response will be needed
>> >> *    the completion of the criticism of the privacy policy
>> >> *    the preparation of a response to the secure protected credentials
>> >>
>> >> I must say that I am extremely frustrated, at this moment in time, with my experience on this committee.  It has been  14 long and difficult months, and I feel like I have made no progress with the intractable attitudes of some of the team.  This is interesting for my research, less so for my general sense of wellbeing and joie de vivre.  However, I suppose we are near the end.  I do hope we are able to catch this report and move the good bits forward and the bad bits backwards.
>> >> cheers stephanie
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