[PC-NCSG] board candidate

[Amr Elsadr]

Hi Avri,

Some thoughts inline below:

On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for keeping the dialogue rolling.
> 
> I think we have a few alternatives.  And we need to figure out what the issues really is.
> 
> A. Is the CSG so in love with BillG that they want him or nobody?
> 
> B. Or is the CSG, or at least some of its leadership, so against the rumored candidate, that they will do anything including deadlock to keep her from getting onto the Board?

If they won?t tell us what their issue is, I honestly don?t care to try to guess. I am not opposed to dialogue, but the bottom line is that they have declared a strong position that they will not accept any other nominee apart from Bill.

> 
> I think the response we make depends on our analysis.
> 
> We have a few alternative:
> 
> - not field a nominee and then vote None of the above.  If we all do that, we force the deadlock and take bill off the table.  this probably won't work and and will reuslt in Bill wining with partial support.  But a statement would be made.

I wouldn?t mind doing this provided that Bill doesn?t win with partial support. I would rather not limit our response to making a statement. I don?t think a statement by us is anything that will phase the CSG. They are taking a strong position, and in this situation, I feel we need to flex our muscles too. I am hoping that this will force more discussion.

> 
> - pick a nominee
> 
> -- Marie Laure wants to nominate Sam, and some have indicated a desire to nominate me.  I assume Sam is willing and I remain willing to be nominated.
> 
> -- if B above is the case, that makes a case for picking someone other than me.  Then again we need to determine whether all of the NCSG voters would be willing to vote for Sam, or else this would just work to confirm BillG on the first ballot.

Yep.

> 
> -- if A above is the case, we should pick the one who has the best chance to picking off at least one of their voters in a contest to see which block of voters breaks first.

Yes again, but they have announced that they haven?t indicated that their common practice of voting as a bloc has changed.

> Now, the NCSG is easier to break up than the CSG, since we do not enforce party discipline. And some of us, don't think BillG is all that bad and might be convinced tomorrow morning that he will try harder i nhis next term.  I had a conversation with him the other day and was convinced that on at least the NTIA /IANA issue his mind is still open.

We shouldn?t make this about Bill, Avri. Our position should be based on that we demand a process in which we should be allowed to run a nominee against Bill who at least has a chance of winning. If not, then we might as well send the CSG a note telling them that we don?t plan to participate in future Board elections, and they can go ahead and pick whoever they want.

> 
> Just some random thoughts.

Also my random thoughts, but this has been bothering me ever since getting WUK?s email.

Thanks.

Amr