[PC-NCSG] URGENT: Pending NCSG Statements
Wendy Seltzer
wendy
Tue Mar 11 15:48:01 EET 2014
I don't even know whether I'm a member of the PC or just an observer...
but hearing all the calls for input, I support these statements.
--Wendy
On 03/11/2014 09:48 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Rafik. I would appreciate hearing views on wether NCSG-PC members feel
> that we have achieved rough consensus, or not. I?m a little confused by how
> ?rough consensus? is defined in the NCSG charter. It states that:
>
> /"while all members do not need to agree and that no single member can veto a
> decision, all views must be heard and considered. Any minority views must be
> recorded along with the rough consensus position."/
>
> This definition doesn?t exactly make it easy in the event that no view is
> provided at all. It also does not clearly define a period of time or deadlines
> for response. Does no view at this point = no objection? If it does, then I
> would like to go ahead and ask the NCSG Chair or the NCSG-PC Chair to submit the
> statements as NCSG statements. If not, I would like to know so that I could
> proceed to attempt to seek NCUC endorsement.
>
> I have attached the latest drafts to this email.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
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> On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maria,
>>
>> I suggested y to get views from PC members by monday since we need to send the
>> drafts and know if PC members approve or disagree with statements.
>> is it possible to make the last call and get response from the PC members who
>> didn't respond?
>> Thanks to Avri, Stephanie, Amr and you who replied already.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-07 23:58 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com
>> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Thanks so much to the drafters of these excellent positions. I personally
>> support all of them and am sorry that my workload this week has been too
>> frantic to allow me to contribute.
>>
>> I just spotted a typo and one textual ambiguity in the privacy and proxy
>> document, details attached below in bold and strikethrough, if there is
>> time to revise them. (but these two points are not deal breakers if there
>> is not time.)
>>
>> All the best, Maria
>>
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>> On 7 March 2014 14:36, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org
>> <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rudi,
>>
>> I?ve attached the three statements to this email, but unfortunately,
>> we don?t have the luxury of waiting until we have an NCSG-PC call to
>> review and submit them.The deadlines for these have already passed,
>> and we?ve been asking for extensions for all of them. There has only
>> been an update to one of them (Translation & Transliteration of
>> Contact Information PDP WG) based on Kathy?s feedback on the
>> NCSG-list. They?re the same comments Chris Dillon walked us through
>> during the WG call yesterday. Could you and others please give
>> feedback on this list?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Amr
>>
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>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at ISOC.BE
>> <mailto:rudi.vansnick at ISOC.BE>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree we need to start do some work in NCSG-PC. Can we have a link
>>> to the statements as they are today so we do not use wrong ones ?
>>> I would call on the NCSG-PC chair to schedule an online meeting so we
>>> can validate NCSG-PC positions on this.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Rudi Vansnick
>>> NPOC chair Policy Committee
>>> NPOC treasurer
>>> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
>>> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 <tel:%2B32%20%280%299%20329%2039%2016>
>>> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 <tel:%2B32%20%280%29475%2028%2016%2032>
>>> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/>
>>>
>>> Op 7-mrt.-2014, om 12:16 heeft Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>> Hi Amr,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the reminder, NCSG PC members should review and indicate
>>>> their support or not to the statements. we have statements but they
>>>> are waiting approval!
>>>> I asked for extension for the PPSAI questionnaire but I don't think
>>>> that we can take more than one week to respond.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-06 18:52 GMT+09:00 Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org
>>>> <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I don?t enjoy nagging, but there are three statements currently
>>>> awaiting NCSG-PC endorsement:
>>>>
>>>> 1. NCSG response to the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation
>>>> Issues PDP WG
>>>> 2. NCSG response to the gTLD Registration Data Services EWG
>>>> status update report
>>>> 3. NCSG response to the Translation and Transliteration of
>>>> Contact Information PDP WG
>>>>
>>>> The response to the EWG can always be sent as an individual
>>>> statement endorsed by whoever cares to sign it, but the
>>>> responses to the two PDP WGs needs to be endorsed by either an
>>>> SO, an AC, a SG or a constituency. These are very important
>>>> statements that constitute the NCSG's official contribution to
>>>> PDP WGs, and it would be a shame if we don?t declare a position
>>>> on them only because we fail to endorse statements already drafted.
>>>>
>>>> I urge you all to read through all three of the statements, ask
>>>> questions or suggest changes, then either indicate that you
>>>> support or don?t support them.
>>>>
>>>> Note: There are still more requests for input pending that have
>>>> not yet been drafted including the Policy and Implementation WG
>>>> (a non-PDP WG) and the IRTP-D initial report. Not sure if I
>>>> missed any.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Amr
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